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To majority media and other Democrats : we police our own, and you don’t get to judge

Drop dead.

By: E Pluribus Unum (Diary) | June 24th, 2009 at 04:50 PM |

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By all means report the facts. I’m sure you’ll be happy to cover every salacious detail. Have at it. Be sure to cover the pain and suffering of Governor Sanford’s family. While you are at it, cover the depth to which all South Carolina and nation-wide Republicans and conservatives rightly feel betrayed.

Beyond that, just shut up. Shut your lying, hypocritical, power-above-patriotism, hyper-partisan, two-faced, shamelessly double-standard bearing pie hole.

You don’t get to judge.

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The Library of Congress could hardly contain chapter and verse of the multitudes of ways the press and the other Democrats have gotten away with judging Republicans by wholly different standards than that applied to Democrats. But that double standard is both obvious and as wide as the Grand Canyon. You show no honor, no equity, no fairness, and no scruples yourselves. You, to put it mildly, do not police your own.

We do. We’ll deal with Sanford. We have standards (you don’t), and we have a long history of punishing and purging our leaders who prove unworthy of trust. For your part, serial adulterer Bill Clinton remains a rock star as far as you are concerned, and that about sums up the standards to which Democrats hold themselves..

So, spare us your mock outrage, your tut-tutting, your finger-wagging, your eyebrows furrowed in anger. If you are well and truly outraged by Mark Sanford’s adultery, but could not trouble yourself to muster even a little mild disapproval against the cretin who wiped his feet with the honor of the office of President of the United States, then you are a hypocrite yourself of the lowest stripe. You are unworthy to judge.

So just shut up.

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Tags: Lying Democrats, lying media, Mark Sanford, Republicans

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arationalthinker

There would be no outrage if not for the Republican mantra of “family values” and legislating morality for others. Then again, those outraging are high strung and not worth listening to anyways.

Taniwha

Got it. Thanks for nailing that down.

arationalthinker

There is a significant difference between lacking morals and not wanting to legislate morality for others.

Taniwha

morality legislation pushed by, well, let’s say Mark Sanford… Something not on the books that he wants there? Please be specific.
eburke
farstar99

Democrats want to control, and profit from, every aspect of human behavior.

To suggest that Republicans, who didn’t try to change the taste of food, or dictate to Americans what they could drive, are imposing their beliefs on others, while Democrats are some force for freedom, displays an ignorance, or willful deceit, on the part of anyone uttering such nonsense.

Just park it, Democrats.
You played this card until it wore through.
You told us to shut up countless times.
Now it’s your turn.
ciscoguy

DONTREADONME
CSUFBomb

I live in the California, otherwise known as “Obama’s blueprint”.

Under a Democrat legislature, I’m told what I can eat (the trans-fat police know best), what I can drive (and, coming soon, what color car I can buy), what kind of television I can watch, what kind of light bulbs to buy, how much water to use (and how much to set aside for the smelt), how long I can run my air conditioner in the summer, and how much of my paycheck I’m entitled to keep for my family after making sure the public employee unions, illegals, and professional welfare recipients are cared for.

Democrats just love to legislate morality for the sake of global warming, fat wallet special interest groups, irresponsible dependents of the state, and every fringe wacko with a loud enough grievance. Legislating morality is a Democrat mantra . . . own it.

logicisyourfriend

I guess you’ve never heard of the tragedy of the commons.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

revphat

what kind of cigar the Gov., ummm, smokes?

E Pluribus Unum

of salacious details. If there were cigars involved, I bet we’ll find out. And frankly, that’s fair game. Judging us is not.
ciscoguy

“I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”

Republicans are such amateurs at marital infidelity cover-ups.

Aaron Gardner

Categorically_Imperative

Hmmm…David Vitter is still in the Senate, right?

Also, I await with bated breath Mr. Erickson’s further exposition of yesterday’s post regarding the “facts” as opposed to “media spin” in the Governor Sanford matter.

E Pluribus Unum

The other party’s biggest offenders end up being their biggest leaders. Kennedy (multiple Kennedys, in fact), Clinton, Franks….

Seen any big Vitter rallies lately? Any “Vitter for President” signs?

Categorically_Imperative

Can’t say I’ve noticed him drawing much support, but I haven’t been following it closely. As to the ‘biggest leaders’ point, I don’t think Frank really qualifies, and I’m not sure what offense you think he committed. As to Kennedy and Clinton, it’s not like their leadership was limited to the Democratic Party; given that they won presidential elections, it would seem that the citizenry didn’t find their philandering to be a firing offense, either.

That being said, Gingrich wasn’t exactly taken down a peg for his issues, and is positioning himself for a 2012 run as we speak. I’m sure you’ll dispute that Limbaugh is a GOP leader, but his multiple moral failings haven’t diminished his stature in the eyes of the right.

But most interestingly, I take it from your response that your vaunted “standards” when it comes to adultery amount to this: you won’t really do anything, but you will refuse to vote for the adulterer for President.

A brave, brave stand indeed.

eburke

(which is against the law vs…say, cheating on your wife) apparently doesn’t rise to the level of an ‘offense’.

Figures.

Categorically_Imperative

I don’t seem to remember that ever happening. That’s the story that Gobie tried to peddle to the Washington Times to score a book deal, but there was ZERO evidence it happened. Nice try though.
IJB

(Where’s MBecker and Happy Bunny where we need him?…)

E Pluribus Unum

Riddle for you. What committee is he the chairman of? Has that committee in the last, say 2 years, presided over a sector of the nation that has been, shall we say, newsworthy? Significant?

Barney’s sexual escapades should require no explanation, really. And that little matter of his using his influence to get his gay prostitute’s parking tickets fixed, and him admitting to having paid said person for sex.

You will not lay credit for Clinton’s election on Republicans. That is just stupid. Gingrich enjoys tepid support at best in his presidential aspirations, and his indiscretions directly affected his fall from power in the party. So BS to you on that as well.

You continue to make the assumption that we have to take our sinners out and shoot them, else we are not “dealing” with them. Again, BS.

TNJim

as acting speaker before when Pelosi ws out of town?
Categorically_Imperative

But yes, Frank has certainly been in the news lately. Then again, prior to the last 2 years or so, Barney was rarely heard from and considered by no one to be a leader of the Dems (I still don’t think most people from either party would consider him a leader).

My heavens, what scandal! Parking tickets wiped off the books!! Heavens to mergatroid – what will happen next? BTW, what happened with GW Bush’s DUI charge? Is that more significant than a handful of parking tickets? More importantly, if fixing parking tickets is an abuse of power warranting expungement from office, we’re going to need 100 new senators and 435 new reps, ASAP.

Again, it is clear that your version of ‘policing your own’ amounts to not voting for adulterers for president. I am awed by your moral courage.
E Pluribus Unum

So yeah, our standard is, more or less, we will not be led by people who are untrustworthy in their personal lives. Not just for president. There are other things we find unacceptable in our leaders as well, but adultery seems to be the topic of the day. Some how it seems that you suppose we should judge our own more harshly. Public beatings? Beheadings? What? What would satisfy you? Since you have no standards yourselves, why do you care how we deal with our own?

Inre Barney Franks – those are actually crimes. And no, he’s a party leader. Deal with it. He de facto runs Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac, along with tax cheat Chris Dodd.

GWB was charged with DUI (and he was how old, exactly, and in charge of what House Committee?). He paid his price.

The ‘all politicians are crooks’ is a sign that you’ve conceded. You may leave now if you wish, and I’ll not further humiliate you.
DONTREADONME

you are exemplifying the typical reaction of someone who cheats on his wife or is unfaithful naturally. You love this because it somehow gives you validation of your devious behavior. Additionally this is a sports game to you, your team scored a goal and you decided you would do an endzone dance. Except you brain can not comprehend why you feel exhuberation when things like this happen. Examine yourself and find that which you lack, or join a support group like the Daily Kos where politics is a game where your team wins eventhough the referee makes the wrong call. If you seek help to understand your condition, by all means visit your local psychologist before a Republican is elected president because I do not know how you will function when your team loses.
kodos423

how it took E Pluribus Unum less than one hour to…judge a democrat based on his sexcapades. Well done, Unum!

janis

political jobs and histories is truly astounding. No wonder so many of you voted for a radical lefty without knowing a damned thing about his past or his positions on anything. By the way, do you recognize the name Vera Baker by chance? What? Oh, just curious.

Categorically_Imperative

Vera Baker. I’m sure we’ll be hearing from her right after the release of the video of Michelle Obama screaming “kill whitey” or the kerners prove that the leading on Obama’s birth certificate prove its a fraud.
E Pluribus Unum

than there was inre Vicki Iseman.

Just take a guess which one dominated the news for a week or two, and which one you almost have to know by name to find on Google.
E Pluribus Unum

everybody can play.

Try to get Vera Baker to come up on a Google search, without using her name (or by using ‘Martinique’). It can be done, but it’s not easy.

Had her butt packed off to Martinique!

WarEagle01

He won’t be our nominee for president, something for which he was clearly in the running. He’s not even 50 yet and his career in politics is finished. I don’t think I’m the only one who sees that as a pretty big deal.

As for Clinton and Kennedy. Face it, even with his serial philandering and rape of Juanita Broaddrick, you Femocrats just love Clinton. In fact you can’t get enough of the guy. Same with another serial adulterer, the drunken dirt bag Ted Kennedy, who allowed Mary Jo Kopechne to drown to death. He is a leader of your party as is the only Exalted Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan currently serving in Congress. Yes, I’m referring to Senator (Exalted Cyclops) Robert Byrd of West Virginia. I know that his Klan record isn’t a big deal for members of the party of slavery and, of course, the vicious murderous racist past of your party is well documented. But he wouldn’t be welcomed in our party.

Seriously Nancy, you guys really have no standards. Zero. So, quit embarrassing yourself and go back to DK where you belong.

DONTREADONME
bs

I’m sure Erick’s falling all over himself to respond to you. No, actually I doubt that he gives a damn what you think. Nor do I.

Sorry.

Categorically_Imperative

Erick is going to write anything on the topic, hoping instead it will disappear down the memory hole. All I can say is that if I were so spectacularly, publicly, 100% wrong about something, I might consider facing the music.

I don’t know why you don’t care what I have to think based on my response to this post, but that’s your privilege. Take care.

TNJim

Read this.
DONTREADONME

do you realize how small minded you look coming over here from that hole you call a life. I bet most people in your life find you to be bitter and detached. You compensate for your insecurities by trying to find hypocracy in others. Given that you have come to a conservative website to mouth off on your so perceived bully pulpit demonstrates your overwhelming need for validation. When all along you hoped that the world you formed in your brain is seen as correct, you try everyday to force your construct on other people by the utilization of moral equivocation argument. You can force all you want, but you cannot lie your IQ up to 97.
George Claghorn

Go to the front page. Erick just wrote something on the topic.

Anything else to say? Or are you fresh out of lies to spout?
eburke
bs

I’m not crying any tears.

George Claghorn

Bye now!
eburke

decide to make your first comments and blow your cover on?

Seems like such a waste of a perfectly good sleeper account.

Oh well, your choice.
sdan

still in office is that when the news broke about him he had already confessed this to his wife, they had been through marriage counseling over it and were on the mend. He did all of that before the media got wind of anything not after when most politicians come clean.

Karina

The trash and glee coming out of the MSM right now is disgusting. They’re just slobbering over this. We are judged by our own standards but don’t you dare try to hold them to those standards as well. Then we’re judgmental sexist, racist, bigots.

Categorically_Imperative

Governor Sanford being prosecuted under Section 16-15-60 of the South Carolina criminal code, which makes adultery a crime punishable by up to one year’s imprisonment?

I guess I’m just looking for some kind of clarification over what your “own standards” are.

E Pluribus Unum

Having no practice at something, and all.

Categorically_Imperative

I’m amused at the irony of your screenname, given your now repeatedly-stated belief that ‘we’ (liberals, Democrats, dirty f’in hippies…I’m not sure what you really define as the ‘other’ here) have absolutely no standards or values whatsoever.

That said, what are your standards when it comes to Gov. Sanford? I assume you think he must resign, but should he go to jail?

eburke

I’ll be waiting for your, I’m sure, voluminious evidence of demanding his resignation. I’ll even make it easy on you. You don’t even have to show that you wanted him gone just for the sex…I’ll settle for just the perjury, suborned perjury, violation of sexual harrassment laws, etc.

Commencing breath holding……Now!
janis

covered about BillyBob in Argentina as well. Seems it involved $1000, Bill Clinton, a stripper and some private moments. So, you know, this looking down your nose at us thing must be because you’re standing on some crates or something and not because you’re of the party that’s morally superior.
eburke

cover the serial adulterer’s ‘indiscretions’ with the same fervor and ferocity that they have say, of Ensign or Sanford? Surely you jest!

A double standard? Bah!! I don’t believe it.
janis

I saw it over at Ace of Spades this afternoon and it is apparently very recent, as in “this past week while his wife is at home recovering from a broken elbow”. Wasn’t taking a swing at the MSM on this one, as I haven’t yet read the story and how they covered it–although I’d bet dollars to doughnuts Billy Bob gets a smarmy little chuckle from the Post while Sanford should be crucified in their eyes.
Swamp_Yankee
eburke

Thanks for not disappointing, Swamp (man, did you find that in a hurry
eburke

already led every newscast from Miami to Anchorage.

And….all due apologies to Lindsey
Categorically_Imperative

Ooooooooookkkk…

Anyway, the point of the original post was that you guys have these high standards and are capable of policing your own. Frankly, I don’t think Sanford should resign because of the affair. I think he *might* need to resign because of his abdication of the governorship for a week without informing seemingly anyone, including the Lt. Gov., as well as the fact that he may have spent taxpayer cash to finance visits to his mistress. I’d need to know more details about who knew where he was, etc. before rendering any judgment on his resignation, though.

I’ll get right back to you on Clinton after I see your voluminous evidence supporting Scooter Libby’s conviction and decrying Bush’s commutation of his sentence. Because, see, Libby was actually convicted of crimes, whereas Clinton’s “perjury” “suborned perjury” and “violation of sexual harassment laws” were never proven and exist primarily in your fevered imagination.
eburke
leftylurker

I loved the man, but dammit, he lied to a federal judge, and after that, to he-double hockey sticks with him.
JX12

within hours of having convicted him. They said they were more interested in the big fish (Cheney), but since that apparently wasn’t going to happen, Libby would have to do, evidence to the contrary or not.

Libby’s conviction was an outrage. It was the grossest miscarriage of justice I’ve seen since OJ was acquitted. The man who actually DID leak Valerie Plame’s name got away scott free, while Libby was tried and convicted for his memory having failed him (not for the leak).

The judge should have thrown out the conviction as soon as the jury started talking about pardons. Not that any of this should matter anyway, because Valerie Plame WAS NOT A COVERT OPERATIVE. Her name was fair game because of her involvement in sending Joe Wilson to Niger while the press was saying Cheney was sending him, which makes Libby’s conviction all the more an outrage. All Cheney’s office was doing was saying “We didn’t send him, someone else did.”

DO NOT get me started on the Scooter Libby thing.
AKSteveB

for Pres. Bush. You don’t let a political operative who was turned into a convenient scapegoat for …well …nothing …hang like that. You owe your folks loyalty.
E Pluribus Unum

If you start laying out some evidence of how the Democrat Party has shown some standards about the behavior of their own leaders, then maybe I might owe you some explanation of what my standards are.
DONTREADONME

the power of BLAM I would in a heartbeat, but alas I do not possess the power. I think you could use it right about now. They are beginning to smell up the place.
Categorically_Imperative

But you already knew that, I’m sure…

We’ll start with John Edwards, who’s basically been run out of the party for all practical purposes and has no future hope of a political career.
E Pluribus Unum

And I always use that term deliberately, since I question (to put it mildly) any real interest in democracy on the part of said party.

Please. You hold up John Edwards as an example? Truly, that is probably the best you got. Your party has left you defending an untenable position.

The press *knew* about the affair, and sat on it for what, a year, till long after he had dropped out of the race. So it had no effect on his ridiculous, had-no-chance presidential run anyway. It’s not this affair that has his career on the skids, it’s his general lack of any useful political skills, IMO.
Jack_Savage

You already have a Marxist in Obama, so no need for Edwards. SImple calculation. Now a law and order guy – you really need one of those, so a couple of puff pieces in Newsweek and VOILA’ !

As long as Bill Clinton is not in the same rubber room as Gary Hart, you don’t get to talk, bonehead.
6eorge Jetson

encouraging donations through messages such as “Tell (my cancer-stricken wife) Elizabeth what you think” on your campaign website. So the party ran sure-future loser John Edwards out of the party. It’s what parties do to sure future losers.

At the other end of the spectrum was Bill Clinton. Everybody knew what he was up to, and more voters than not looked the other way.

Sanford is obviously somewhere in between those two extremes. I don’t know enough about him to say where.

Swisher

What punishment was doled out by the conservative movement for Vitter, Ensign, Craig, Gingrich, etc when their extra-marital sexual transgressions came to light?

How does the conservative base plan to “take care of” Sanford?

What is the bigger transgression? Cheating on his wife and kids, or abandoning his official duties as governor for a week?

What was the conservative movement’s reaction to the Clinton, Spitzer, Edwards affairs?

DONTREADONME

do we really need people like this?
E Pluribus Unum

You guys did not run Clinton out of the White House . You guys don’t even make a weak attempt at policing your own.

So you don’t get to judge .
http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

What part of “Shut up” Don’t you understand?

bs

when all the newly-registered trolls start posting. You’re gonna have a busy day.

http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

Usually does.

janis

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http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

All of this was totally unexpected.
janis

But I’m going to pay really close attention if you ever make that particular statement again!
Achance

One of my favorite TV lines from WKRP, “As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.” After they’d dropped the turkeys from the helicopter over the shopping center.
http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

.NT.
bs

but with the original music edited out. They couldn’t get the rights for those songs, so they stuck in fake stuff. Bleech. But the humor is still outstanding.

Mary Tyler Moore. Bob Newhart Show (and “Newhart”). WKRP. St. Elsewhere. Hill St. Blues. Fox Video has the rights to some of the greatest TV shows ever made…and they’ve stopped releasing them on DVD. Rumor has it that they’ll be putting out sets of the entire series of most/all of those.
http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

Possibly the best line in that episode though is Les reading the sign: “W…. K…. R…. P….”
bs

“They’re hitting the ground like bags of wet cement. Oh, the humanity!”
http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

That pretty much describes this thread, only it’s trolls instead of turkeys.
DONTREADONME

this is a serious question, in Zion National Park turkeys perched in the heights of the trees at night. Did I miss something in my public education?
bs

but not the kind they raise for your Thanksgiving dinner. Too fat.
TNJim

You really need to check WKRP in Cinncinati out sometime. excerpts are bound to be onYouTube with episodes available somewhere.

Jingles

We’ll stop judging you on matters of the bedroom if you stop judging us on matter of the bedroom. Gay marriage for all!

Taniwha

So people have had to from top posts in politics/government for being found to be gay?

I didn’t know.

Jingles

McGreevey in New Jersey?

janis

“serving the public while serving his fellow man as well.” You might want to go back and take a look at the other offenses–one of them being his boyfriend getting a job with the state that he wasn’t qualified for, if memory serves.

Jingles

He did resign. He probably should have been on trial for corruption. He was able to use his homosexuality and the affair as a smokescreen, and nobody really paid much attention to the whole boyfriend thing.
janis

just for being gay. He was corrupt in a number of situations and should never have been in public office of any kind. To my knowledge, that does not apply to Governor Sanford.

You sound like you’re having a really good time with this incident, Jingles. Why is it that people on your side of the aisle sound so moronically gleeful when a good person stumbles or falls? Could it be that it makes all of you feel so good about your own lack of morals?
Jingles

I was agreeing with you on McGreevey, inasmuch as he used sex to cover up his corruption and got away with it. In my opinion, Sanford can stay governor as long as he wants, but my opinion doesn’t matter.

And well, I’m more frustrated than gleeful. I suppose it comes from the fact that I think that discussions of sex, adultery and sexual orientation (for consenting adults) have no place in the political sphere. Many Democrats feel the same way. It is my opinion that many Republicans do not, thus, when a member of a party that appears to treat sex as a political weapon gets burned, it’s just desserts.

If this incident helps us move toward a public square that takes sex out of the equation, all the better.

And my morals and ethics are not lacking, but thanks for asking.
janis

who had to resign just because they were gay. I refuted that. I don’t see the Republican Party using sex as a political weapon. Indeed, if you can point out a group who does do that, I believe it would be the GLBT lobby who is primarily of your own party. We’d all be grateful if they’d quit pushing their preferences of private behavior out in public and to also stop demanding that the rest of us have to validate their choices. Thanks so much.
Jack_Savage

Sure. Keep saying it until you believe it.
Taniwha

If Spitzer hadn’t committed one of the specific crimes he was himself so hell-bent on prosecuting, but had rather simply cheated on his wife with an consenting adult, who thinks he wouldn’t still be in office?

It’s the crime, stupid. Same with McGreevey. Hell: Bawny Fwank ran a prostitution ring in his apartment, and he didn’t even get his pee pee whacked for it. He was still in the right place to destroy our economy when the time came for it.

Now name a Democrat that lost ANYTHING in terms of position for simply having an affair, whether gay or natural, no crime involved. Never happen.

BTW: still waiting for some matter of morality Sanford was pushing for a new law about.

Not defending him, mind. Just pointing out that most of the hypocricy-based outrage is not only laughable on the merits, but based on lies in the first place.
tororojo66

Maybe he meant a man and a woman in each hemisphere?

Q Should South Carolina recognize civil unions between same-sex couples?
A: No.
Q: Should South Carolina restrict marriage to a union only between a man and a woman?
A: Yes.
eburke

to uphold millenia of social compacts w/regards to marriage being between a man and a woman!!

I mean…if that’s not an example of forcing your private morality on someone, what is?
Taniwha

Apparently, “trying to legislate morality” means trying to stop others from forcibly legislating what some might call immorality, to the detriment of 5000 years of understood definition.

Projection, thy name is liberal. SOMEONE is trying to legislate in the area of morality, but it isn’t anyone on the right. And they’re just pissed off at us because they fail at it whenever it comes to an actual vote.
eburke

my biggest problem was trying to figure out which reading-comprehension-challenged comment he made. My 2nd choice was to say “Yo, troll….she asked for a NEW law, not one that’s been around for, oh let’s say, 6 or 7 thousand years.”

Yeah, supporting something that has the support of large majorities of Americans is really forcing your morals on someone else.

Like you, I find having our kids taught that Heather Has Two Mommies is not only acceptable but to be lauded just a tad bit ‘forcing’.
DONTREADONME

wow, you are a very smart parrot.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

I’ll stop judging you in your bedroom when you shut up about your bedroom.

And what part of shut up didn’t you understand?

Perverted and illiterate. Nice.

Dave_in_Fla

When are you all going to realize we are in a war? Not everyone on the battlefield is a Ranger, but at least the transportation brigade isn’t shooting at you.

IJB

I’m far more interested in shooting the other side (trolls on this site, included), than almost anyone on our side who’s not a RINO. (Granted, I’d like to see a number of people get primary challenges, but that’s not the same thing…)

Jingles

And this is a great bait thread. Should make it easy for ya’ll to spot the lurkers and deep-water trolls.

E Pluribus Unum

Good call, as you can see by a quick perusal of the thread.

the_invisible_hand

Don’t put it past the dem-bulbs to push extra hard now on their economy killing legislation like cap-and-trade while we are on the defensive over a national non-issue.

jimmuy8

If it wasn’t the Stupid Party, this whole “scandal” would be over if every high-ranking Republican had one, simple response: “I think this is a matter for Gov. Sanford and his family–I think we should MoveOn(.org).”

http://www.theotherworsham.blogspot.com toddworsham

This post is ridiculous. It is no surprise the media is having a field day with this and to try and point out hypocrisy or the ridiculous nature of main stream media criticism is futile. As for the whole we police our own thing…..

do you really want that to be your job. Where were you when vitter was messing around, where were you when Ensign was messing around. If “we” police our own then we are about as ineffective as a set of cowardly british bobbies.

The only person you “police” is yourself. You may think you police your family, your children, and apparently your politicians. But you do not. You came into this world along and will leave it that way too. The only person you can truly depend on for anything is yourself, you might find that harsh but sometimes the truth is harsh. That being said the only person you can truly police is yourself, so keep your self from cheating on your wife but forget about trying to get others to do what you want.

The fact of the matter is all politicians suck. Even the best brighest conservative is probably going to be corrupted in one way or the other. I dont say this because I am cynical, I say this because I can look at history without my politics coloring what I see.

Stop putting faith in politicians. for the most part they are ALL EVIL BLOOD SUCKING SCUM BAGS WHO WOULD STEP OVER YOUR DEAD BODY TO GET SOMETHING THEY WANTED.

janis

And now we can all hang our heads in despair and toss ourselves into the nearest deep chasm for eternity BECAUSE WE’RE ALL DOOMED.

sarc off

E Pluribus Unum

DOOMED!!!!
George Claghorn

We’re doomed!

E Pluribus Unum

I don’t really get what you are trying to say, other than that I am ridiculous for saying the press should not judge Sanford. And then that Republicans should not judge their own anyway, because nobody gets to judge anybody. Oh, and apparently I have never spoken against Vitter or Ensign (check my posting history, pal). And all politicians suck.

Is that about it?

AKSteveB

Things are coming out in bits and pieces but this is sure starting to look like a hit job from his rivals in the Republican party who apparently had known about this affair for quite some time. The local newspaper has emails between the Gov. and his lover since December. It was other Republicans who pushed the “where is he” line. It is good he was “outed” now only because, his mental state seems real erratic, but the fact that his own party went after him is ..revolting.

AKSteveB

Gov. Sanford may very well need to resign. His actions in leaving the state show that there may well be some emotional/mental health issue that calls for it. I still haven’t seen anything in this that tells me he is the kind of misogynist pig that Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy et al are. It was never “just the adultery” for those guys, it was a sense that you couldn’t leave your daughter alone with one of them for five minutes. Here I see a middle aged guy who “fell in love.” It is a story as old as time. Temporary insanity often comes with it.

mom2oneson

When I was driving home I was thinking about this and how out of place I feel at my son’s sports practices. 100% of the fathers are older men with second families. This seems to happen a lot when men are in their late 40s and early 50s not sure why but they start a second family. All the dads there have at least tweny years or more on me. My gripe is that he announced it. He should have been discreet apart from his career and the country what about his wife. Maybe he doesn’t care about her but she is still wife and she deserves more respect than having her husband announce this on the 6pm news. Great point there is a big difference between a married man falling in love and a low life.

IJB

I wonder how many current SC GOP polls are former Dems who just switched parties so they could keep getting elected to office.

I’d really like some numbers on that.

But, like many southern and midwestern state parties, I gather the SC GOP is primarily more of a patronage party, which helps explain this kind of behavior.

George Claghorn

55555 to infinity
newagegop

Sure he’s been a bad dad and husband, but he has been a good governor. The older I get the more forgiving I’m becoming when it comes to the human condition. He screwed up but he didn’t lie under oath. In my mind he just has a higher bar to jump to win my vote nothing more.

I don’t know why we expect perfect politicians when there are no perfect people. Our side must not condemn our fallen for political expediency. If we’re going to get on the soapbox about moral virtue we should mention forgiveness.

eburke

summing up my feelings re: this whole matter.

Perfectly said….with a whole bunch of 5s, specially the part about becoming older and more forgiving when it comes to the human condition. I’m a lot less sanctimonious today than I was 30 years ago. Maybe it’s because I can look back at all the times I screwed up not because I wanted to but because I’m a flawed, sinful, human being.

Thanks for giving voice to my thoughts.
Vuk Zoric

He screwed up but he didn?t lie under oath.

Unless you count the oath of office. I’m more concerned that he took off without telling his staff. South Carolina has had its share of natural disasters, and you’d think a “good governor” would at least leave a phone number on the refrigerator door.

There have been governors who have temporarily passed the powers of their office over to the Lt. when they’ve gone under general anesthesia for surgery.

Maybe political office-holders shouldn’t “get on the soapbox about moral virtue” at all, and just focus on their jobs.

DONTREADONME
http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

Just saw your last line there.

Good to know you’re anti-virtue, but it becomes clear you’re a Democrat, and therefore didn’t Shut Up when told.

eburke

for voicing my utter disgust with the MSM hypocrisy over this whole thing.

These idiotic, amoral, spineless weasels praise and promote those in their ranks with moral failings; we make ours pay and the only prayer they have of reconciliation with those they have disappointed is utter, abject contrition of their immoral behavior.

I don’t know how these people look in the mirror in the morning…or any other time during the day.
johnbirch67

The Dems will have a good time for a few days. The bigger damage is that we now have two GOP adulteries when we need to concentrate on stopping Obama. The timing sure sucks……

E Pluribus Unum

But I am betting that when all is said and done, this will not slow down our team’s struggle against the health care takeover, or cap-n-tax either. We’ll still be focused on the fight.

azletx

Instead of – Lying Democrats, lying media, Mark Sanford, Republicans.

Why not add “Immoral Republicans”, I don’t recommend “Immoral Politicians” since that would be a Oxymoron.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

And you were flying under the radar, too.

peg_c

Didn’t he mean “immoral politicians” is a redundancy, not an oxymoron? He’s a moron.

http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

Unless you meant “moral politicians” as an oxymoron.

But that’s not really the case either – there really are some moral politicians as well as immoral one – just like the rest of the population.

So there’s no problem with at tag “immoral politician” from a linguistic viewpoint – though it really doesn’t add anything helpful to our discussions here at RedState.

peg_c

I should read ahead before posting…! However, all great minds.

Vuk Zoric

…is who paid for his trip to Argentina?

DONTREADONME

wow, look at all of this sleeper accounts that we can take out now.

eburke

in front of ol’ Bowser. Man, this was like shootin’ fish in a barrel (with all due respect to the troll on another thread who is so clueless he thought another poster was threatening him by using that little saying)

I mean, how many of those little buggers have we bagged now? Some of ‘em gacked sleeper accounts over two and three years old.

Nice job dude!! (you did it on purpose didn’t ya?)

E Pluribus Unum

and thanks for the kind words, e!

eburke

utter revulsion at the feckless, hypocritical slimebags that inhabit the MSM.

stevemb

“we police our own”

If the GOP actually did that — I mean, policing THEIR OWN and not presuming to police citizens in general — I’d have some sympathy.

As it is, I have a violin that makes a quark look like it’s the size of the Milky Way Galaxy playing for Gov. Sanford.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

What part of Shut Up didn’t you understand, idiot? Must have had a union teacher in a government school, since you clearly can’t read.
Jack_Savage

YOU are the guys who don’t want anyone to get near transfats.

Moron.

peg_c

Says it all.
mom2oneson

Neil here is a cup of coffee from me

TNJim

Headlines like EPU’s for this diary and the diary itself. Also see Aaron’s comment below. Not that what EPU said in this diary didn’t need to be said, and I thank him for it, but it was also time to get the Orkin man in here.

Thia was a good day for taking out the tash

TNJim

randy streu

Such as, we force the resignation of OUR suspected pedophiles. Democrats give theirs standing ovations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds

randy streu

which, in this case, means that while we may not force him out of office, it does mean he loses favor. It does mean he not only loses his potential frontrunner status for 2012, but has no shot at even campaigning. People upthread have mentioned Clinton, Edwards, etc.

Aaron Gardner

This post by my friend EPU made RedState take a well needed poop…everyone should send Neil a roll of toilet paper for his diligence in wiping away the excrement.

;^)

TROLL BAIT
TROLL BAIT
TROLL BAIT
TROLL BAIT
TROLL BAIT

SHUT UP!!!

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

I haven’t had this much fun since I first got the blam stick.

TNJim

Swamp Yankee mentioned over in Erick’s diary.

DONTREADONME

instituted today. Unfortunately, this weapon could be used for torture.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/pep.htm
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/09/pulsed-laser-fi/

Fire the fricken laser, already… Sharks with fricken lasers attached to their heads… Bwwaahahahaha

TNJim
barry915barry
DONTREADONME

on their heads but technology is always moving forward right? Thanks, as you can tell I am not to quick on the youtube object imbeds.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

I could be an airline attendant.

eburke

eburke

http://briansimpson.wordpress.com Brian Simpson

If this doesn’t become speciallist’s new signature line, I don’t know what will.

$peciallist

“And now you are our Pinata….spitting out stupidity whenever we hit you”

epic

louisiana

You have to remember their minds are fogged up from smoking
too much tugboat rope & hopium. You can’t have a battle of wits with
unarmed people.
Amy Miller

Hear that? Yes? It’s the sound of a million liberal brains collectively exploding )

It’s a beautiful sound.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

Amy Miller

They make examples of them, put them up as poster children for “overcoming the odds” and promote them.

Amy Miller

They show “solidarity” by ignoring the disgusting things their membership does.

southernclarion

[What part of shut up don't you understand? ? NS]

In what world do you police your own? Why is Newt Gingrich still a prominent figure in the party? He had an affair after impeaching President Clinton for lying about an affair. Why did John McCain get the Republican Presidential Nomination? How about Giuliani? Is Vitter less contemptible because he paid and helped the free market? Ensign doesn’t seem to be going anywhere. I guess if they break ranks and have gay affairs they are out (circa Foley and Craig, though admittedly the latter managed to stay for the rest of his term). So I guess I should ask again…in what world do you police your own?

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

That’s 7.

George Claghorn

…to tell us how many sleepers/trolls have gotten the banhammer for revealing themselves on this topic.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

It’d never work because it’d give the banned too much notoriety, but a feed of bans would be fun to a degree.

George Claghorn

Heh.
ceili_dancer

I love this site, because of its policy on posting. Also, it could break up a slow evening by playing whack a troll. But I some times think that a thread of shame or something like that would be fun. It would be like the cat that keeps bringing critters up to the porch just to show the hard work they’re putting in. But, alas, this would only fuel some malcontent his 15 minutes. Maybe we could color code blams on the recent post red or something.

TNJim

George Claghorn

What government position does Newt Gingrich presently hold? How about Giulani?

Bob_Brigham

Those pesky union teachers.

And I don’t see how you can say, “We have standards (you don?t), and we have a long history of punishing and purging our leaders who prove unworthy of trust” while the two most high profile Republicans in America are Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh who have a full six marriages between the two of them.

DONTREADONME

I am sorry who are Rush and Newt in charge of again? Who elected Rush to elected office? Last I checked that Newt is no longer in the House of Representatives and Rush is not the RNC Chairman. Let me know again when their names are on all of the GOP fundraising materials I received weekly. Seriously, I have no patience for sleeper accounts.
George Claghorn

…have absolutely no position to be talking whatsoever.

These idiot trolls are starting to get boring.

blaaarrgh

Get thee behind me, Self-awareness!

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

George Claghorn

OccamsRazor

on an anti media blog tells me that RedState is not only being listened to and monitored, but feared by the media. It probably ought to be traditionally considered a compliment, except that…it’s from the media.

TNJim

Comin’ in here. stirrin’ things up. well somebody oughta hit ‘em in the mouth!
But Neil won’t… Neil won’t… like he77 he won’t!

George Claghorn

JustLeaveMeAlone

It’s a good thing the trolls vaporize so the nasty parts are not lying all over the place.

Will we need new batteries for the blam stick?

Brilliant, EPU; brilliant. High fives, kudos, and salaams to you!
OccamsRazor

-A REMOTE tangent. Having grown up doing book reports using the Library of Congress, I’d like to add that the media is just as slow upstairs as the time it takes to retrieve a requested book/item from downstairs.
izzyt84

Ditto! The Left has nothing to add to what’s been done; nothing. Liberals are still the ‘king’ when it comes to abuse of power, ect. Sure, they can act as though they are shocked and upset but they are still the biggest hypocrites in this country. We DO take care of our own. That’s more than they could say. Matter of fact, were Sandford a democrat he’d probably get a standing ovation for telling the truth and admitting his indescretion. Let’s see how the left rolls out the double standard over the next week or so. Remember Gov Spitzer! Remember John Edwards and Bill Clinton and Gary Hart and all the rest of those pigs!
OccamsRazor

The problem stems from the concept of the Freedom of press, the very Constitution. The History of our United States of America began under the premise in which it would fight AGAINST insane ideologies such as ‘Pravda’.

The true journalists of the time took genuine pride in looking at both sides of an issue and being as objective as possible. Today, the gig is up.

In traditional American media, it’s Fox News against everybody else.

At Least in _FRANCE_ there’s no disguise in their media.

My prediction is that as The American Media Mask is removed, it’s anticipated by then it’ll be too late.
conslie

[So let's replace it with a fundraising link to Adam Kinzinger, candidate for IL-11. - Moe Lane]

TNJim

DONTREADONME

just remember to point this twit out tomorrow, because I fear this one will slip through the cracks do to the late night lull around here.

TNJim

Neil and Moe have left for the evening, I’ve already clicked the contact button.
TNJim

about the time this was still near the top of the list.

mom2oneson
DONTREADONME
mom2oneson

emotional run on sentences, with lots of commas, (like how I type lol) it just seemed like it’s from a female ranting.
DONTREADONME

I mean she seems to be really tweaked, it is almost too funny to watch people blast some ridiculous stuff. Right=Reich, geez where has this person been living?
TNJim

When I went to school, before NOW and the women’s movement, we were taught when writing and referring to an unspecified person or to someone generally to use the male pronouns. It wasn’t “he/she”, “him/her”, or “his/hers”. Even then some of the girls in class kinda groaned at that particular grammatical rule.
DONTREADONME

and I love angering women when I do it, plus I tell them that it is still grammatically appropriate to use solely the male pronoun. Yet when they do the editing they keep giving it back with his or her, and I change it back, it really irritates them and I say, why do you waste your time over this. Plus, if it angers her when I do that, it gives me power over her, needless to say she stopped doing that after that.

DONTREADONME

eburke

little post and I think Neil’s blam stick needed a recharge.

I’m sure it’s been recharged by now.

$peciallist

http://www.redstate.com/e_pluribus_unum/2009/06/24/to-majority-media-and-other-democrats-we-police-our-own-and-you-dont-get-to-judge/#comment-3176

but she didn’t cuss…

“the left doesn?t give a – you know what – if these hypocrites dress up in diapers”…lol
TNJim

It was 9. Soon to be 10, I would imagine. I embedded the fight scene from “McClintock!” as an illustration.

eburke

and you miss all the fun.

I still think EPU did this on purpose just to smoke the little buggers out. Some of these little trolls got 2+ year-old sleeper accounts gacked over this.

Guess the allure of sanctimonious gloating was just too much for ‘em to resist.

Heh.Heh.

$peciallist

loser
DONTREADONME

symptoms of BDS, he really needs to see a psychologist and a geek squad technician to fix his keyboard from the spit that flew out of his mouth when he was typing.

That was the funniest little troll speak I have ever seen.

eburke

wing of our cancered body politic, HYPOCRISY IS A SACRAMENT”

Incoherent much?

Holy cow! Those LSD flashbacks must be a b**ch!

http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

NT

eburke

I started laughing half way through it.

Now what am I supposed to do for entertainment for the rest of the day?

jm_225

That’s ten who have such a faint grasp on the written word that “Shut up” eludes their understandings. Add in the number of bans Moe got here and this has to be a record of some sort ??NS

“We have standards (you don?t), and we have a long history of punishing and purging our leaders who prove unworthy of trust.”

Really? Hmmm.

Eliot Spitzer? Caught using prostitutes. Resigned.

David Vitter? Caught using the DC Madam’s “escort” service. Still in his Senate seat. Said he “sinned” and was sorry. Running for re-election. Received loud standing ovation at closed Republican Senate luncheon.

Larry “wide stance” Craig? Served out remaining 18 months of Senate term following arrest for lewd conduct in MSP international airport bathroom and subsequent guilty plea and conviction for disorderly conduct. Said of Clinton on Meet the Press, 1999: “”The American people already know that Bill Clinton is a bad boy – a naughty boy. I?m going to speak out for the citizens of my state, who in the majority think that Bill Clinton is probably even a nasty, bad, naughty boy.”

So much for the long history.

Mark Sanford? Well, let’s listen to the GOP talkingheads on the Sunday talk shows.

Gov. Haley Barbour on Face the Nation:

BOB SCHIEFFER: … Should [Sanford] also resign as the governor of South Carolina?

GOV. HALEY BARBOUR (Chairman, Republican Governors Association): Well, I don?t think so, but that?s up to the people of South Carolina. But no, I don?t think so.

BOB SCHIEFFER: This seems to go beyond … this relationship. He was basically missing in action for five days. … He was not there. People didn?t know where he was. …

GOV. HALEY BARBOUR: You know, Bob, I don?t know all the details. … I?ve made it my policy, I just don?t talk about people?s personal problems. I don?t–I don?t think it?s appropriate, I don?t think it?s polite, and I don?t think it–it achieves any purpose.

Flashback! Barbour on 1998-09-15, on Brit Hume: “And now we have this president who treated Monica Lewinsky in such a way that it makes prostitution look dignified and ennobling. I mean, he made her a sex toy, a sex object.”

Oops.

Lindsey Graham on Meet the Press: “My main focus right now is can this marriage be saved? Can these kids have a mom and dad to guide them through life? That is my main focus. I think if Mark can reconcile with Jenny, and that’s not going to be easy, that he can finish his last 18 months. He’s had a good reform agenda. And I do believe that if, if he can reconcile with his family and if he’s willing to try, that the people of South Carolina would be willing to give him a second chance.”

Mitt Romney, immediately following Graham: “You know, his, his holding onto that job is really between him and his family and the, and the people of South Carolina. It’s not for people outside the state to make pronouncements on. This is a matter which is really a heartbreaking matter, and that’s what I think you have to focus on.”

More from Graham on the same show: “And part of life is failing. So from Mark’s point of view, if he can get his family back together, people are pretty fair in this country. Bill Clinton had his problems. People looked at his job performance, they looked at his personal failings and they said, “You know what, we’re going to put one over here and the other over there.” That’s no justification for what Mark did, but I think the people of South Carolina appreciate what Mark tried to do as governor to change their state.”

Mitch McConnell on Fox News Sunday:

BAIER: What is your reaction, Senator, to the developments in South Carolina with Governor Mark Sanford?

MCCONNELL: Look, we’re working on health care and the people’s business, and that’s what ? that’s what we’re doing in the Senate.

BAIER: Do you think he should resign?

MCCONNELL: We’re going to continue to deal with the people’s agenda here in Washington, and that’s what we’re going to concentrate on.

BAIER: But being out of the country ? in his words, crying in Argentina for five days ? without telling anyone where he was, there are lawmakers who are calling for his resignation.

MCCONNELL: We’re going to concentrate in the United Senate ? in the States Senate on national issues like health care and climate change and Supreme Court appointments.

BAIER: But this is the second prominent Republican to announce an affair in as many weeks, with Nevada senator John Ensign coming out. What does this mean for your party?

MCCONNELL: Bret, I think the important thing for us to do for the American people is the business we were elected to do.

Yep… that shooooore is purgin’ and punishin’ language.

Standards? I guess you could call those standards. Out here in reality-land, we call those “*double* standards.”

DONTREADONME
randy streu

Spitzer? Prostitutes. Illegal. Get it?

Craig? Trumped up charge, he still maintains his innocence.

Let’s not pretend Spitzer is the only one here, chief.
DONTREADONME
George Claghorn
janis

resignation, you do realize that Sanford is not a senator, right? It’s no concern of the Senate members, Sanford is a governor. As to asking Haley Barbour, Governor Barbour is not affected by Sanford’s behavior either. Gov. Sanford already resigned his leadership position with the governors association.

Yes, we do have standards that we hold our politicians to–and we also have some pretty stringent ones about trolls here. To whit, you’re late to the diary you commented on and you didn’t have one single original thought to contribute to the conversation. You’re going to have to try harder if you want some attention here.
Jack_Savage

Bill Clinton – rock star

“Reality – land”? That’s where you slobbering punks think you live? Is Obama’s rectum now “reality – land”?

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