Facing a state budget crisis in July 2008, CA Gov. Arnold Shwarzenegger fired about 10,000 temporary and part-time workers and ordered the 200,000 permanent employees to be paid only the minimum wage of $6.55 per hour until the legislature passed a crisis-solving budget. A week later, however, the State Controller John Chiang pointed out that the state payroll records could not be changed to accomodate the cut because they were written in COBOL; an antiquated computer language. And, the only state employees who could programin COBOL were in the group of the 10,000 fired part-timers.
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COBOL is not "antiquated"
bs Saturday, January 10th at 7:19PM EST (link)It contains OO development constructs, can be used to produce or parse XML, can invoke Java methods, and pretty much do anything one can do in any other language, and far, far more efficiently. The issue with this application was the lack of programmers, not the language.
Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys
and I call myself a geek. I can't hold a candle to you bro!-nt
Mike gamecock DeVine Saturday, January 10th at 7:21PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
I'm not really a huge fan...
bs Saturday, January 10th at 7:25PM EST (link)Personally I prefer Java or PHP or even PL/I (if you’ve heard of that) over COBOL. It just bugs me when people act like COBOL is some sort of Model T. I dislike the verbosity of the language - it sure ain’t C when it comes to concise source code. But there has been a lot of work done on COBOL over the years to keep it up-to-date with current industry technology; I was just stating that for the record.
Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys
Now you're talking!
George Claghorn Saturday, January 10th at 7:27PM EST (link)PHP is my kind of language.
“Victory comes, though we know not when. We must be happy warriors until the end.
For those of you who struggle with what goes on, who see retreat and capitulation, and who feel like not just your political opponents, but those who hold dear all those things you hold as blasphemous — be cheerful. Be happy. Victory is already yours.
You must just have the courage to not get discouraged and have the will to fight on.” – Erick Erickson at RightOnline
I will now surrender my geek license (nt)
George Claghorn Saturday, January 10th at 7:22PM EST (link)“Victory comes, though we know not when. We must be happy warriors until the end.
For those of you who struggle with what goes on, who see retreat and capitulation, and who feel like not just your political opponents, but those who hold dear all those things you hold as blasphemous — be cheerful. Be happy. Victory is already yours.
You must just have the courage to not get discouraged and have the will to fight on.” – Erick Erickson at RightOnline
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“Victory comes, though we know not when. We must be happy warriors until the end.
For those of you who struggle with what goes on, who see retreat and capitulation, and who feel like not just your political opponents, but those who hold dear all those things you hold as blasphemous — be cheerful. Be happy. Victory is already yours.
You must just have the courage to not get discouraged and have the will to fight on.” – Erick Erickson at RightOnline
Not entirely fair, George Claghorn.
Achance Saturday, January 10th at 7:42PM EST (link)It certainly could have been better written, but there are some interesting issues in there that are worthy of discussion.
This is the sort of thing that any governor, usually a Republican, would face if he/she were trying to reduce the size of the government either as a policy measure or in response to some fiscal or other emergency.
It ain’t easy, and it often does come down to how do you get your payroll computers to handle it. And, by the way, it was a really, really stupid move on Swartznegger’s part; you can’t cut their pay - period. All you can do is lay them off and stop paying them all together. And even that has its costs and complications with a unionized workforce. This is the Republican disease in employee relations; they seek the middle ground, the soft blow, and the whole system is designed to make you go all in on every hand. If you don’t have the guts for going all in, you can’t play.
In Vino Veritas
That's what I said
George Claghorn Saturday, January 10th at 7:56PM EST (link)“Victory comes, though we know not when. We must be happy warriors until the end.
For those of you who struggle with what goes on, who see retreat and capitulation, and who feel like not just your political opponents, but those who hold dear all those things you hold as blasphemous — be cheerful. Be happy. Victory is already yours.
You must just have the courage to not get discouraged and have the will to fight on.” – Erick Erickson at RightOnline
Then encourage him to write better rather than
Achance Saturday, January 10th at 8:03PM EST (link)discouraging him from writing at all.
In Vino Veritas
Okay, perhaps I worded it wrong
George Claghorn Saturday, January 10th at 8:20PM EST (link)What I meant to say is that eireirish should elaborate more. Maybe tell me what he/she thinks about the state budget crisis in California or the firing of COBOL programmers. I don’t want eireirish to stop writing completely just because of something I said.
“Victory comes, though we know not when. We must be happy warriors until the end.
For those of you who struggle with what goes on, who see retreat and capitulation, and who feel like not just your political opponents, but those who hold dear all those things you hold as blasphemous — be cheerful. Be happy. Victory is already yours.
You must just have the courage to not get discouraged and have the will to fight on.” – Erick Erickson at RightOnline
You're right, sometimes any of us can be too harsh. nt
Achance Saturday, January 10th at 8:23PM EST (link)In Vino Veritas
I can write COBOL...
mbecker908 Saturday, January 10th at 7:32PM EST (link)I’ll do the job for nothing.
Don't Help Them, MBecker!
IJB Saturday, January 10th at 11:44PM EST (link)The best thing that could ever happen is if the state of CA goes bankrupt (provided they aren’t bailed out).
And I say that as someone who could directly suffer if that happens.
But don’t help them out of the hole!!
Well, given that I'd be the only person on earth
mbecker908 Sunday, January 11th at 2:38PM EST (link)who could figure out what I was doing…
So Saul the man who wants to run the RNC....
JadedByPolitics Sunday, January 11th at 5:08PM EST (link)thinks this “Reagan Democrats and Independents share our conservative values…read my commentaries”
That is from twitter, now have WE not been DOWN this road before? and have we NOT just lost an election on that same line of BS? Were WE not just told this same crap during this election with McCain? YES to all of the above.
This is the type of thinking that will keep us in the minority for the NEXT 40 years!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Might I also add another pathetic item going on at twitter....
JadedByPolitics Sunday, January 11th at 5:36PM EST (link)the Top Conservative on Twitter is considering joining up with Joe Trippi (yes that Joe Trippi) to have a fast once a week to support Zimbabwe’s starving 4 million…..
michael pleahy is the guy and his bio says Conservative Author and Republican Strategist …..this is the crap WE have attempting to RUN this party WE are SCREWED!
It has ruined twitter for me really I enjoyed it BUT this crap is making me SICK!
I have called him out on twitter about and direct messaged him BUT this is so freaking pathetic!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy