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By: emptybucket (Diary)  |  July 30th, 2012 at 04:57 PM  | 

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The Democrats are thinking about adding being pro-gay marriage to their platform at the upcoming convention.  Should all conservatives take a stand for marriage being between one man and one woman? I can hardly wait for all the rhetoric from both sides. The Dems who know this is not a positive for them will be spinning and spinning. The RINOS who are trying to be everything to everyone will be spinning and spinning.

Aren’t there enough social issues wrapped up in this next election without injecting gay marriage? Do the Dems honestly believe this is an advantage for their side? 

Here in New York State we were never given the chance to vote yea or nay. Are there democrats who do not believe in gay marriage that will actually take a stand and decide not to vote for Obama because of it?

Guess I’d like your opinions on whether gay marriage is a make it or break it stance for either side. If the GOP were to announce such a thing at their convention – wouldn’t it mean doom at the polls?

 

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  • Viet71

    Repubs should hold their fire. There are no votes to be gained by coming out against gay marriage (a case of preaching to the choir); and likely some independent votes to be lost (from those who perceive intolerance of gays).

    Just a practical view.

    Let the voters decide state by state. Not many state legislatures will do what New York’s did.

    Recc’d for raising an important campaign issue.

    • demsaresatanic

      how did that work out?

      • commonsenseobserver

        Romney supports the Marriage Protection Amendment as well, so there’s no reason why that plank would be dropped this year.

        But, of course, it’ll be rather impossible to pass. Keeping DOMA is a lot more important. Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is an issue of the past now.

        • merrie7137

          I think most Americans don’t really care about gay marriage. When it came up for a vote in my state, I voted no. But, I didn’t campaign on the issue. I wouldn’t post pictures on my Facebook page and go door to door encouraging my neighbors to vote. I didn’t contribute any money on it. And, if it had passed, I wouldn’t have moved to another state. So, basically it wouldn’t actually have affected my life.

          I think most people (other than extremists on both sides) feel the same way. A majority don’t care, but given the opportunity to vote on the issue they would vote no.

          If Barack Obama had performed as advertised, and the economy were chugging along right now, he could legalize gay marriage, polygamy and bestiality and nobody would care. If the Keynsian spending had worked and unemployment were below 5%. If foreclosures hadn’t detroyed the housing market. If Obamacare actually solved the health care crisis. Then, gay marriage could become law and other than a few disappointed conservatives, nobody would care.

          Conversely, if Romney is elected and the economy improves, people will be so happy about the turn around they won’t dare to vote out conservatives just to have gay marriage.

          So, if we want to win the culture war, we need to fix the economic problems first. Then they gay marriage issue will go to the back burner and we can start tackling other issues like abortion.

          • kipling

            As long as we have a culture that tolerates sloth and stealing from your neighbor, we will not fix the economy. As long as honest work is looked down upon, we will not fix the economy.

        • emptybucket

          another them versus us situation. Why else would they decide to make gay marriage officially part of their platform? I honestly thought it would only be to goad the conservatiives into being more vocal against it.

          After reading your comments we are all thiniking along the same line – economy comes first. Conservatives need to not get drawn into another social issue debate like they did a few months ago.

          I also want the conservatives to just let it pass, for now. Our life has been impacted enough by a teeny minority of American citizens.

    • keepcoolwithcoolidge

      No need to start throwing potential new Republican votes away over a trivial issue. This needs to be an election about the economy, not Obama’s shiny objects.

  • liberty17

    The voters are more focused on the economy right now.

  • The_Rebel

    of matters that the public deems important for the Presidential election. Having said that, why would the Dems want to include this in their platform when 32 of 32 states that have had a public referendum on this subject have rejected it? Those states represent about 60% of the U.S. population.

    I know most of these state votes were taken prior to 2010, but the last one in May in NC put the exclamation mark on it with a total wipeout. It’s like Obama and the polls – people will say one thing to the pollsters, but once in the voting booth, their true feelings are made known.

    I swear the Dems have a death wish this year.

  • bk

    It’s failed everywhere it’s been tried, almost all of which have been in blue states. So the Legislatures take it upon themselves to say they know better what’s good for the idiot voters than we morons know for ourselves.

    As to the platform, like with a lot of stuff on both sides it’s just hogwash. The Democrats want to use it as a club to get more donations from liberals by saying the GOP is a bunch of haters and bigots. Obama can have it both ways, as the only national law involved is DOMA as far as I know. He doesn’t try to get it repealed, but he violates his oath of office by choosing not to defend it.

  • fightnright

    of adding pro-gay marriage (or the Dems slyly crafted catchphrase, ‘marriage equality’) to their platform is because they are getting desperate.

    The ‘gay lobby’ represents a tiny minority of voters, but they include a disproportionate number of wealthy, reliably Democrat donors, with vast social and cultural influence. Their favor can be directed to further inflate the saturation of leftist political content (aka free air time) through every type of mainstream media. The Dems used a similar gambit in NY state recently when Governor Cuomo rather suddenly decided to endorse gay marriage, and was rewarded by huge donations which may help launch Cuomo’s POTUS bid some years down the road.

    The DNC is only tipping its hat as to how hungry for cash they are after losing multitudes of 2008 donors with big pockets. Plus, how great is their need to re-energize disillusioned youths and uneducated couch potatoes through prime time series, late-night hacks, celeb/fashion magazines, and socialite events to pull the zer0 over the finish line in 2012.

  • emptybucket

    his huge donations. And yes, I agree that he is considering a run at the White House. Am so tired of how the media seems to be able to track the big donors on the GOP side while ignoring the big bucks coming from the Left.

    The youth are naive and innocent politically for the most part, therefore, perfect little soldiers to brainwash into the left’s relaxed morality montra. It is so important for Christian Conservative parents to make sure they are raising their children up “in the way they should go”, otherwise there is little hope that they will wise up as adults.

    I’m not living in the past but give me the ethics and morals and beliefs of the 1960s. The gay minority has managed to get the American population to say, “hey, it’s no big deal.”

    Or, it’s not important enough to debate. I do agree with those above who say we should just ignore it for right now as the gay issue is only being used by the democrats to draw us into heated debate.

    We’ve got to keep pounding on the economy!