There you go ladies and gentlemen. Barack Obama has let loose with where he actually stands — that is directly against you, the American people.
You can listen to Rush talking about it here. He rightly draws the connection to Jimmy Carter’s policies.
Next, I suppose, Obama will advocate the maximum speed limit be 55 mph again.
First, let’s point out that he’s full of it on this. This is one of those statements that is not true, when you look into it, but the Washington Post will never devote a front page story to debunking Obama on something like this.
Second, what Barack Obama precisely fails to mention is anything having to do with lowering the price of a gallon of gasoline.
Consider Barack Obama’s own ad, the transcript of which is here.
Barack Obama thinks high gas prices deserve serious answers, and a serious plan: Crack down on oil speculators, raise mileage standards and fast track alternative fuels.
These are not the answers of serious men.
We already know cracking down on oil speculators will have a de minimis impact on the price of oil. Why? Because they’ll go overseas and play in the exact same market.
Raising mileage standards will take a long time to deploy and does nothing to increase supply.
Fast tracking alternative fuels? Like ethanol? We’re already artificially keeping that price high through import tariffs Obama does not want to reduce. And how the hell are else are we suppose to fill up our cars?
Seriously, and this is the central point of contention you cannot ignore Barack Obama offers exactly nothing to deal with the high price of gas by the gallon. Unless he advocates the federal government buying every American a brand new car that can accept his alternative fuels, he offers no relief.
Inflating your tires and getting a regular tune-up sounds more like Obama’s plan for ego maintenance than it does for helping American families.
I've got a great idea
Streiff Thursday, July 31st at 1:16PM EDT (link)how about setting our thermostats to 68 this winter and wearing cardigans?
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
Only if they are argyle print
Erick Erickson Thursday, July 31st at 1:17PM EDT (link)That’d be so retro.
Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?
Hey BO, here's a plan...
CSUFBomb Thursday, July 31st at 1:19PM EDT (link)…how about if I just sell my car, stay home watching ESPN Classic until it’s nap time, and live off all those freebie handouts you’re promising us government dependent drones?
Will my reduced carbon footprint sufficiently compensate for my zero productivity lifestyle?
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I was thinking more like...
bs Thursday, July 31st at 1:20PM EDT (link)“WON” buttons - “Whip Oil Now”
(A little background here, for those of you young whippersnappers who don’t get the joke)
Decorum is fo’ suckas
Inflated Egos, not Tires
mrheydaddyo Thursday, July 31st at 2:14PM EDT (link)Can this guy truly be for real? His ‘answers’ make about as much sense as an Amy Winehouse lyric, but they have no rythm. More and more I think the McCain campaign was spot on in comparing him to that human bobblehead, Paris Hilton.
Efficiency
Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 2:23PM EDT (link)Second, what Barack Obama precisely fails to mention is anything having to do with lowering the price of a gallon of gasoline.
Who cares what the cost of gas per gallon is? All that matters is cost per mile. And increasing fuel efficiency is a heck of a lot easier than drilling for more oil.
Personally, I don’t care if my car gets 20 mpg and gas costs $2/gallon or my car gets 50 mpg and gas costs $5/gallon, as long as I can drive 100 miles for $10.
You are not typical
Erick Erickson Thursday, July 31st at 2:26PM EDT (link)Most people really care about it. In fact, I’d venture to say, the majority of people care about it.
Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?
Actually Erick, he is typical
Brian Simpson Thursday, July 31st at 2:37PM EDT (link)Typical “screw the poor” lefy.
His statements show an absolute misunderstanding of the issue. Changing efficiency standards only helps when the old cars are replaced by new cars. If all we do is focus on efficiency (and ignore the cost of the gas to fill the tank) we will ultimately hurt the poor and lower middle class since they are the ones that are the least able to afford new, more efficient vehicles to offset the price of gas.
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Super_G's mind providing some context or proof for this statement..
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 2:37PM EDT (link)Says who….no link, nothing to back up your claim?
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CSUFBomb hits the nail on the head
Vegas_Rick Thursday, July 31st at 2:38PM EDT (link)That’s exactly what they want. The liberal elites want us to quit driving, quit being productive, quit showing any initiative, quit loving our country, quit trying to make the world safe from terrorists, quit dissing the Europeans and quit resisting socialism.
Not gonna happen. But, that’s what they want.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Like they want poor people to have cars. <NT>
Moe Lane Thursday, July 31st at 2:45PM EDT (link)NT
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My (blogging-related) wish list.
That's a feature and not a bug.
spainishirish Thursday, July 31st at 2:49PM EDT (link)The Left’s whole energy policy is to push gasoline and vehicle prices beyond the reach of the working and middle classes, and thereby reduce the carbon footprint. Why Republicans don’t hammer this point even more relentlessly is beyond me. The link has to be made between “drill, drill, drill” and exactly why many Dems don’t want to do it.
Who cares what the cost of gas per gallon is?
Vegas_Rick Thursday, July 31st at 2:50PM EDT (link)The middle class guy who has to commute 25 mile each way to work. The mom with kids who need rides to school and kid event. The small businessperson who has a fleet of vans or pick-up trucks and has to chose between gas and payroll. The independent trucker who can’t rely on efficiency improvements to keep his business afloat. The airline passenger who has to pay an extra $50 to check a second bag.
Who cares about the price of a gallon of gas? Get out of your utopian dreamland once and a while and you just might see who cares. Idiot!
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Somewhere in America, last night
Joe_Schmo Thursday, July 31st at 3:18PM EDT (link)I guarentee you this exact conversation happened:
Wife - I need you to put more air in my tires
Husband - Why? I just checked them this morning and they have 32 lbs. in them just like Ford and Bridgestone both recommend
Wife - I was listening to Obama today and he says if we just put more air in our tires we won’t need to ever import any oil ever again
Husband - Huh?
Wife - Oh, and you need to do a tune up on my car, too, that’s the other part.
Husband - Oooookaaay. Did Obama happen to say just exactly I was supposed to do to your car then? I mean, it’s 3 years old and has 20,000 miles on it. The sparkplugs are supposed to last 100,000 miles and the fuel injectors 50,000. Everything else is controlled by a computer.
Wife - You better call the Ford dealership then because we need to do both
Husband - Right, I’ll go add some air to your tires and then I’ll call Ford from the office tomorrow.
Also guarenteed is that the husband went out to the garage, turned on the compressor, squirted the hose a little, then came back inside. Today at work, he never lifted the phone up but will tell his wife that he’ll take the car in this evening because Ford can do the tuneup in a half hour. He then takes a leasurely drive…
Somewhere in America, last night
Joe_Schmo Thursday, July 31st at 3:20PM EDT (link)I guarentee you this exact conversation happened:
Wife - I need you to put more air in my tires
Husband - Why? I just checked them this morning and they have 32 lbs. in them just like Ford and Bridgestone both recommend
Wife - I was listening to Obama today and he says if we just put more air in our tires we won’t need to ever import any oil ever again
Husband - Huh?
Wife - Oh, and you need to do a tune up on my car, too, that’s the other part.
Husband - Oooookaaay. Did Obama happen to say just exactly I was supposed to do to your car then? I mean, it’s 3 years old and has 20,000 miles on it. The sparkplugs are supposed to last 100,000 miles and the fuel injectors 50,000. Everything else is controlled by a computer.
Wife - You better call the Ford dealership then because we need to do both
Husband - Right, I’ll go add some air to your tires and then I’ll call Ford from the office tomorrow.
Also guarenteed is that the husband went out to the garage, turned on the compressor, squirted the hose a little, then came back inside. Today at work, he never lifted the phone up but will tell his wife that he’ll take the car in this evening because Ford can do the tuneup in a half hour. He then takes a leasurely drive…
yeah well...
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 3:39PM EDT (link)…if it weren’t for the patriot act you wouldn’t have heard My conversation with my wife….and now I also know you have My phone tapped…you right wing warmonger. So there.
/snark
ugh…I find that after channeling lefty thoughts my brain feels dirty
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Lol -nt
Joe_Schmo Thursday, July 31st at 3:48PM EDT (link)N/T
55 MPH = "bi-partisan"
scottbomb Thursday, July 31st at 4:19PM EDT (link)Sadly, a Republican already beat him to it. The press will say it has “bi-partisan support”. Oh joy. 55 mph. The states will love all the extra revenue from speeding tickets too. A win-win for everybody but US!
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Fuel efficiency
Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 4:52PM EDT (link)You don’t need to get a new car to get better mileage. Properly inflating your tires and driving slower can make a big difference.
Also, you don’t need to mandate fuel efficiency standards to get more efficient cars on the market. All the car commercials I’ve seen recently tout fuel efficiency. Free market principles are taking care of it.
timescale
Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 4:56PM EDT (link)My opinion is that fleet replacement will happen on a faster timescale than any price lowering that would happen as a result of drilling in ANWR or the OCS.
The only problem with that is...
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 5:00PM EDT (link)..that you don’t seem to base your opinion on any FACTS. Please provide a link to back up your opinion, otherwise why should we listen?
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and this is my second request...
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 5:02PM EDT (link)…so get to it or get lost.
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drilling vs. efficiency
Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 5:07PM EDT (link)Oil is a non-renewable resource. We’ve extracted all of the easy-to-get oil, and the stuff that’s left is much harder to get.
On the other hand, we already know how to make cars that get 50 mpg. No drilling required.
No kidding
hoagy Thursday, July 31st at 5:09PM EDT (link)Yeah this is dumb. America was founded on hard work and gettin er done. Even though there’s NO SHORTAGE OF OIL, there’s certainly a shortage of cash to fill my Hummer!
http://www.petroleumnews.com/pntruncate/272466570.shtml
That's because your opinion is an uninformed liberal opinion.
Vegas_Rick Thursday, July 31st at 5:17PM EDT (link)Do a little factual research. I know liberalism is an emotional hobby, but you guys really could let facts play into the equation, once in a while.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
and not one link...sorry Super_G...
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 5:20PM EDT (link)you fail@life
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planning for the future
Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 5:20PM EDT (link)My comment was not intended to be insensitive toward those who are struggling with high gas prices. I’m sorry if my rhetorical style was misconstrued.
However, the unfortunate reality is that there is nothing we can do that will reduce gas prices immediately. No war or drilling will help. All we can do is plan for the future. Increasing fuel efficiency and drilling will only have impacts years down the road.
I don’t think I said anything too controversial. I’ve been posting on this site for three years and all the sudden I’ve been branded a “lefty” and told to “get lost”. Strange.
could be your lack of facts to back up your claims....
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 5:24PM EDT (link)…nah couldn’t be that….we must all just be dumb.
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links?
Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 5:27PM EDT (link)If anyone has info on auto fleet replacement rates or the impact of drilling in ANWR or OCS, please post them. It’s true that I don’t have something on hand, but I haven’t seen anyone post any links that contradicted me either.
Again, I’m pretty surprised at the mean-spirited responses I’ve gotten to my comments. This is pretty atypical for RedState.
It's not strange Super_G
Vegas_Rick Thursday, July 31st at 5:31PM EDT (link)When you come in here spouting the Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid talking points about energy, regale us with your well reasoned opinions, and provide absolutely no factual evidence or links to back up said opinions, people here are not going to receive you with a great deal of patience.
Here’s how you might try it: In my opinion, oil prices will fall as soon as the American government makes a commitment to expand domestic production. Just two weeks ago, President Bush evacuated the Executive Order prohibiting off-shore drilling, that, along with polls showing the 70% of Americans who support expanded domestic production, has already caused the price of oil to drop by over $20 per barrel.
See, just a little factual evidence. You may argue with my conclusions, but at least I have something to back up my opinion. What evidence to you have, other than Nancy and Harry’s proclamations, that increased production won’t lower prices?
Hmmmm?
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
and another funny thing....
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 5:32PM EDT (link)….I went in the RS2.0 archives and didn’t see anything from you? Maybe I searched wrong. So maybe you would like to post some links to all this content you contributed over your 3 years here.
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here is why you need links..
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 5:37PM EDT (link)You made the following claim:
I added emphasis to the part I took exception with.
I don’t provide links to prove a negative, sorry. So at this point you can either
Provide a link proving your assertion
Admit that what you said was crap
continue defending your baseless claim while spittle flies from your lips
Your choice.
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causation vs. correlation
Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 5:38PM EDT (link)Your example is no more factual than my contention that the drop in crude oil prices is a consequence of demand destruction due to high prices and the recession. Check out the recent VMT numbers for example.
The problem with commodities prices is that it is impossible to prove causation, only correlation.
The future is now
hoagy Thursday, July 31st at 5:39PM EDT (link)I totally agree. The problem isn’t that the world consumes a dynamic amount of oil, or that the US dollar doesn’t buy as much as it used to. The problem is simply that the price per gallon is too darned high! And we all know from economics class that when supply keeps up with demand, more supply means I can drive to the Nascar race in my RV again.
Why should we be thinking of the oil-strapped future when we could speed up the process by burning more oil now?
I mean we were never warned that the price of oil could go up! How could I have known that my Hummer wouldn’t make financial sense one day?
Here's your link, Super_G
Vladimir Thursday, July 31st at 5:41PM EDT (link)http://www.fueleconomy.gov
3.3% fuel savings is for an individual, assuming they routinely drive 8 psi under manufacturer’s recs.
There are lots of things people should do, but will they?
I know that increased drilling will lead to more supply.
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now I feel like Kowalski...but I must address this.
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 5:42PM EDT (link)..Spare me your victim shtick…I didn’t tell you to get lost, I gave you a choice of providing a factual basis for your argument.
And to qoute Indiana Jones The Last Crusade:
“You have chosen…poorly.”
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Sorry you had trouble finding it
Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 5:42PM EDT (link)http://archive.redstate.com/user/super_g/track
Enjoy!
As I said, you can argue my premise
Vegas_Rick Thursday, July 31st at 5:48PM EDT (link)but, at least I gave enough information to allow you to make a cogent argument. Your posts do not. There in lies the problem. As Aaron has said, don’t expect us to provide you with links to prove the negative. It’s YOUR responsibility to back up your own thesis.
Plus, energy independence is an emotional issue. If you come in here on the wrong side of the issue, you’re bound to get hammered. I think your opinions would be readily accepted at DKos or Move-On.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Is this a loaves and fishes thing? n/t
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Super_G Thursday, July 31st at 5:55PM EDT (link)It is my opinion that the reduction in oil consumption due to replacing our auto fleet with more fuel efficient cars is greater than the increase in oil production that would result from drilling in ANWR and OCS.
I can’t “prove” this one way or the other. It’s an opinion. Nobody knows how much oil is out there or how long it will take to come on line or what impact it will have on prices.
I can’t post a link as evidence for my opinion, just as you can post a link as evidence for yours.
Are you still irritated by this?
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 6:00PM EDT (link)Obama and the black vote
Just wondering
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Sure I can Super_G
Vegas_Rick Thursday, July 31st at 6:08PM EDT (link)you said, “Know one knows how nuch oil is out there.” You’re wrong. The USGS knows. You can find the link here
Don’t bother to respond, I’m tired of you. Have a great evening!
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
If you really need a link to understand supply and demand I will provide one.
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 6:09PM EDT (link)I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but from what I have read from your posts from the past 3 yrs (heh, thanks for that link), I really shouldn’t be wasting my time. Most of the comments I read in your archive are moby-esque. In my opinion
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exactly.
hoagy Thursday, July 31st at 6:17PM EDT (link)The derned oil got scared that we were thinking of drilling it in more spots and lowered its own price! Supply and Demand works even without more supply!
All that malarky about already having lots of domestic places to drill that haven’t been drilled yet is irrelevant. I heard that there is NO SHORTAGE OF OIL, but then how can you trust the word of an oilman?
http://www.petroleumnews.com/pntruncate/272466570.shtml
What about us that already do that? Huh?
larueladue Thursday, July 31st at 6:29PM EDT (link)The only option left according to you is to buy a new, more efficient car (i.e. smaller, lighter, less safe, and not able to meet my needs). What if I don’t want a new vehicle, nor need a new vehicle? (And I cannot have a small 2 seater: I have kids, dogs, lumber, etc. to move.) I want LOWER GAS PRICES!!!!!
If I want efficiency, I will buy a motercycle (and take out a new life insurance policy)…
“Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.” - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus (Vegetius) in “De Re Militari,” Book III.
You've swallowed it hook, line and sinker...
larueladue Thursday, July 31st at 6:33PM EDT (link)Try doing a little research on oil exploration and production other than CNN or MSNBC, and you might be enlightened.
“Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.” - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus (Vegetius) in “De Re Militari,” Book III.
Same difference buddy
Brian Simpson Thursday, July 31st at 8:37PM EDT (link)Even if you aren’t mandating it, I’m not sure how you can justify wanting a poor person to increase fuel efficient by such small measures as changing their driving habbits, etc. Those small measures will be far outstripped by the increase in the cost of the fuel that goes into their cars.
Go ahead, stick it to the poor. What do the matter anyway, eh?
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wow that was unbelievably witty....
Attack Mode Thursday, July 31st at 9:40PM EDT (link)…seriously I think I looked at that a few times without thinking about the title of the post, then when I accidentally read them both….hahahahhahahahahahahah that was great I needed that. And the fact that it was hidden down here at the bottom made it even better, like a final thought before leaving.
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Off Shore Drilling No Quick Fix
RalphsRight Thursday, July 31st at 10:49PM EDT (link)I was recently at a party and saw a tape of Rush freebasing with Amy Winehouse, so there is no way the Republicans are race baiting. Just kidding.
Seriously, there is no question Obama is arrogant. Have any of you actually inflated your tires and checked his claim? I suggest that we run an experiment and have all those posters here inflate as recommended and report their results. Let’s call the bluff and do a bit of field research.
On the other hand, have any of you ever brought an off-shore well in? I have. And it takes 3-5 years to yield if you hit. That won’t help your Hummer, Charlie.
Frankly, both candidates come up goose eggs on how to come up with a short term drop in oil pricing. Don’t drive on Sunday, except for medical and family emergencies. That one day of deferred road usage will play havoc with the futures, which are set by anticipated consumption levels. Yes, productivity and consumption will be hit, which in turn will also drive the pricing spot market down.
Do you all think TBoone Pickens was born yesterday?
No, but apparently you were.
NightTwister Thursday, July 31st at 10:58PM EDT (link)And you obviously don’t know how markets work. We don’t have to bring the oil in tomorrow, we only have to show we’re going after it, and also every other domestic source of energy.
Get Connected in Colorado.
Do you really want serious responses?
Flagstaff Thursday, July 31st at 11:39PM EDT (link)Try some serious questions.
Besides what NT said, it’ll help the Hummer Charlie has in 3-5 years. Bill Clinton nixed drilling in ANWR 12 years ago because “it won’t produce for 10 years.” We’d have been using the oil for 2 years already. I don’t think Bill was a Boy Scout, because he apparently didn’t beleve in “Be(ing) Prepared.”
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the obsession with the tire thing
PolaristheCanadian Monday, August 4th at 11:02AM EDT (link)You guys really are nuts.
The recommendation to keep tires properly inflated is the same as that from the Energy Department and Environmental Protection Agency.
Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) also appealed to those with the real power to make change — average citizens — to drive slower, keep engines tuned and tires properly inflated.
NASCAR has told fans, “With escalating fuel prices, the time is now for drivers to focus on simple things like proper tire pressure to maximize tire performance and increase fuel economy.”
Obama’s speech recommended to voters in Missouri that there are things individuals can do to help conserve energy, including bringing their cars in for regular tune ups, and keeping their tires properly inflated. It seems good advice to me - or perhaps you prefer coastal drilling which MIGHT recover more oil in 10 years
ANWR
PolaristheCanadian Monday, August 4th at 11:05AM EDT (link)BTW the oil reserves under the ANWR are estimated to be enough to supply the US demand for all of six months
Wouldn't it just be quicker for you guys to admit you like high gas prices
spainishirish Monday, August 4th at 11:08AM EDT (link)because you think it reduces global warming? At least people wouldn’t laugh at you and your real or feigned ignorance of markets.
Perhaps freedom gone amok or just a lack of education
PolaristheCanadian Monday, August 4th at 11:18AM EDT (link)Ahh - the Americans and there god-given right to rape the planet. Get me my SUV goddammit. I have to go down to the end of the driveway
Thanks. At least this is honest.
spainishirish Monday, August 4th at 11:23AM EDT (link)I think it should be your guy’s campaign platform as well…wait, it is.
Watch your language, troll
bs Monday, August 4th at 11:24AM EDT (link)tho’ I don’t expect you’ll be here long enough to do so.
Decorum is fo’ suckas
Nobody knows what ANWR holds.
Achance Monday, August 4th at 11:25AM EDT (link)It has hardly been explored. Likewise, NPRA and the Alaskan OCS have hardly been explored. We do know that there are commercially viable oil reserves in Section 1002 of ANWR that need only the wells and a short link to the TAPS to brought into production.
That said, I’m with the Greenies on this one; I like the high oil prices. We gave Prudhoe Bay oil away and financed a two decade boom in the Lower 48. I’m into multi-billion dollar budget surpluses, a Permanent Fund Dividend over $2K this year, and a direct subsidy for fuel costs so we don’t have to pay the high prices you are paying.
In Vino Veritas
If you'll cut the profanity pursuant to the rules,
spainishirish Monday, August 4th at 11:26AM EDT (link)and compose a diary with this same thought, I’ll recommend it and ask the Directors to put it on the front page. It is refreshing to have Obama supporters admit their desire to maintain high fuel costs.
Nice work, spainishirish
blooch Monday, August 4th at 11:27AM EDT (link)30 minutes, and you got Polaris to launch:D
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Freedom gone amok?
Brian Hibbert Monday, August 4th at 11:28AM EDT (link)Thank you. You just summarized your beliefs. Freedom isn’t acceptable if people don’t choose to behave in a manner consistent with YOUR beliefs. Good for you. Will you also use the power of the government to force people to attend your church? Or even better, to prevent others from attending churches which have beliefs that conflict with yours?
People like you lead to totalitarianism.
Socialism doesn’t work. It looks nice on paper, but it’s been tried and it’s failed miserably every time (usually accompanied by widespread death and suffering).
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After six months, then what? What's your answer?
Cheetah772 Monday, August 4th at 11:30AM EDT (link)Opening strategic reserves doesn’t really solve anything. No, a better way is to expand offshore drilling and continuing the development of alternate fuels.
Daniel 2:20 And he [God] changeth the times and seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.
It's Always interesting
ehosterman Monday, August 4th at 11:41AM EDT (link)to see the anti-drilling crowd only bring up the reserves of ANWR or the OCS whwnever drilling comes up. Note that they carfully omit the reserves available from ANWR, OCS oil and Shale oil production (which is also proscribed by congressional fiat). Of course, that wouldn’t fit the script, since shale oil reserves would provide all of our oil needs for over 100 years, and we haven’t even discussed coal gassification. It’s real plain that the Democratic plan is to do or say anything to decrease fossil fuel use, even if it ruins the economy so they can “save the planet”.
Directors/Mods, may I make a request?
E Pluribus Unum Monday, August 4th at 11:44AM EDT (link)The G-D word is, to me, the most offensive term on the planet. This little crap-burger, inside 45 minutes, has treated RedState like his toilet, and has insulted me enough that I would like to go meet him face to face to discuss manners.
Could you ban it, this crap-burger?
Right now?
Carthago delenda est
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Energy expert, huh, ace?
Vladimir Monday, August 4th at 11:57AM EDT (link)“ANWR is only 6 months of supply” is the textbook example of a canard.
There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted. - Arthur Schopenhauer
Here ya go, airheads...
johnnyrussia Tuesday, August 5th at 8:01AM EDT (link)Obama was observing that coastal drilling would save us so little oil and so little money even twenty years from now, that you can actually save more money immediately by doing “simple things” such as keeping your tires properly inflated.
Where did he get that crazy idea? From George Bush’s Energy Department and Environmental Protection Agency…. Their joint site fueleconomy.gov is loaded with fuel-saving, money-saving tips. Keep your tires properly inflated, for example, and you can save up to 12 cents a gallon.
Compare that immediate savings from that single tip, with what coastal and Arctic National Wildlife Refuge drilling combined would get you two decades from now: 6 cents a gallon.
And that’s being generous, because Bush’s Energy Department says we can’t expect any impact on prices from coastal drilling until the year 2030.
In their knee-jerk mockery, conservatives are flying closer to the truth then they intend to.
Update: A friend reminds me that California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) also recently “appealed to those with the real power to make change — average citizens — to drive slower, keep engines tuned and tires properly inflated, to buy hybrids and lower overall consumption.”
Second Update: Florida Gov. Charlie Crist also believes keeping tires inflated is important.
Third Update: Not too long ago, NASCAR told fans, “With escalating fuel prices, the time is now for drivers to focus on simple things like proper tire pressure to maximize tire performance and increase fuel economy.”
Man, but do they hate being on the wrong side of this one.
Moe Lane Tuesday, August 5th at 8:11AM EDT (link)Not enough to have the mother-wit to come in without name-calling, mind you.
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how about taking your tires off?
Streiff Tuesday, August 5th at 8:20AM EDT (link)what would your MPG be then?
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
Ah, been waiting for one of these stupid EIA posts
Dave_in_Fla Tuesday, August 5th at 8:27AM EDT (link)You can learn the actual truth (rather than the fantasy you live in) here.
Toodles.
“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” - Joe McCarthy
The inflate your tires plan
Uma Richie Tuesday, August 5th at 8:29AM EDT (link)is a tax on people who already meticulously maintain their vehicles. What relief do the Democrats have for them?
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“We hold our heads high, despite the price we have paid, because freedom is priceless.” -Lech Walesa
Wasn't this script in another comment
Achance Tuesday, August 5th at 8:57AM EDT (link)yesterday? We got most of this word for word from another troll yesterday. Somebody must have the faxes and emails just humming. Too bad nobody out there in the reality based community can think for themselves.
In Vino Veritas
EIA: The bottomless well for slant-drilling lefties
blooch Tuesday, August 5th at 9:11AM EDT (link)It’s quite the gusher for trolls in every right-wing blog’s comment section and usually accompanied by the troll’s own ad-lib bad math.
“I have to admit that Karl Marx (1818-1883) was a smart man. He was, in many ways, a psychologist.”–drealoth