Comments on: The Obama Energy Plan: Inflating your tires and getting regular tune-ups can save you as much gas as we’ll get from drilling.

By: blooch

blooch — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:11:44 +0000

It’s quite the gusher for trolls in every right-wing blog’s comment section and usually accompanied by the troll’s own ad-lib bad math.

By: Achance

Achance — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:57:39 +0000

yesterday? We got most of this word for word from another troll yesterday. Somebody must have the faxes and emails just humming. Too bad nobody out there in the reality based community can think for themselves.

By: Uma_Richie

Uma_Richie — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:29:22 +0000

is a tax on people who already meticulously maintain their vehicles. What relief do the Democrats have for them?

By: Dave_in_Fla

Dave_in_Fla — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:27:03 +0000

You can learn the actual truth (rather than the fantasy you live in) here.

Toodles.

By: streiff

streiff — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:20:04 +0000

what would your MPG be then?

By: Moe_Lane

Moe_Lane — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:11:04 +0000

Not enough to have the mother-wit to come in without name-calling, mind you.

By: johnnyrussia

johnnyrussia — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:01:54 +0000

Obama was observing that coastal drilling would save us so little oil and so little money even twenty years from now, that you can actually save more money immediately by doing “simple things” such as keeping your tires properly inflated.

Where did he get that crazy idea? From George Bush’s Energy Department and Environmental Protection Agency…. Their joint site fueleconomy.gov is loaded with fuel-saving, money-saving tips. Keep your tires properly inflated, for example, and you can save up to 12 cents a gallon.

Compare that immediate savings from that single tip, with what coastal and Arctic National Wildlife Refuge drilling combined would get you two decades from now: 6 cents a gallon.

And that’s being generous, because Bush’s Energy Department says we can’t expect any impact on prices from coastal drilling until the year 2030.

In their knee-jerk mockery, conservatives are flying closer to the truth then they intend to.

Update: A friend reminds me that California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) also recently “appealed to those with the real power to make change — average citizens — to drive slower, keep engines tuned and tires properly inflated, to buy hybrids and lower overall consumption.”

Second Update: Florida Gov. Charlie Crist also believes keeping tires inflated is important.

Third Update: Not too long ago, NASCAR told fans, “With escalating fuel prices, the time is now for drivers to focus on simple things like proper tire pressure to maximize tire performance and increase fuel economy.”

By: Vladimir

Vladimir — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:57:07 +0000

“ANWR is only 6 months of supply” is the textbook example of a canard.

By: E_Pluribus_Unum

E_Pluribus_Unum — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:44:13 +0000

The G-D word is, to me, the most offensive term on the planet. This little crap-burger, inside 45 minutes, has treated RedState like his toilet, and has insulted me enough that I would like to go meet him face to face to discuss manners.

Could you ban it, this crap-burger?

Right now?

By: ehosterman

ehosterman — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:41:33 +0000

to see the anti-drilling crowd only bring up the reserves of ANWR or the OCS whwnever drilling comes up. Note that they carfully omit the reserves available from ANWR, OCS oil and Shale oil production (which is also proscribed by congressional fiat). Of course, that wouldn’t fit the script, since shale oil reserves would provide all of our oil needs for over 100 years, and we haven’t even discussed coal gassification. It’s real plain that the Democratic plan is to do or say anything to decrease fossil fuel use, even if it ruins the economy so they can “save the planet”.

By: Cheetah772

Cheetah772 — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:30:31 +0000

Opening strategic reserves doesn’t really solve anything. No, a better way is to expand offshore drilling and continuing the development of alternate fuels.

By: BrianH

BrianH — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:28:34 +0000

Thank you. You just summarized your beliefs. Freedom isn't acceptable if people don't choose to behave in a manner consistent with YOUR beliefs. Good for you. Will you also use the power of the government to force people to attend your church? Or even better, to prevent others from attending churches which have beliefs that conflict with yours?

People like you lead to totalitarianism.

By: blooch

blooch — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:27:28 +0000

30 minutes, and you got Polaris to launch:D

By: spainishirish

spainishirish — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:26:29 +0000

and compose a diary with this same thought, I’ll recommend it and ask the Directors to put it on the front page. It is refreshing to have Obama supporters admit their desire to maintain high fuel costs.

By: Achance

Achance — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:25:28 +0000

It has hardly been explored. Likewise, NPRA and the Alaskan OCS have hardly been explored. We do know that there are commercially viable oil reserves in Section 1002 of ANWR that need only the wells and a short link to the TAPS to brought into production.

That said, I’m with the Greenies on this one; I like the high oil prices. We gave Prudhoe Bay oil away and financed a two decade boom in the Lower 48. I’m into multi-billion dollar budget surpluses, a Permanent Fund Dividend over $2K this year, and a direct subsidy for fuel costs so we don’t have to pay the high prices you are paying.

By: bs

bs — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:24:54 +0000

tho’ I don’t expect you’ll be here long enough to do so.

By: spainishirish

spainishirish — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:23:13 +0000

I think it should be your guy’s campaign platform as well…wait, it is.

By: Polaris

Polaris — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:18:12 +0000

Ahh - the Americans and there god-given right to rape the planet. Get me my SUV goddammit. I have to go down to the end of the driveway

By: spainishirish

spainishirish — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:08:40 +0000

because you think it reduces global warming? At least people wouldn’t laugh at you and your real or feigned ignorance of markets.

By: Polaris

Polaris — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 11:05:53 +0000

BTW the oil reserves under the ANWR are estimated to be enough to supply the US demand for all of six months