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	<title>Comments on: How do we know John McCain Did Best at Saddleback?  The Media is Pushing the &#8220;McCain Cheated&#8221; Theory for Obama</title>
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		<title>By: TheSophist</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/08/18/how-do-we-know-john-mccain-did-best-at-saddle/#comment-3796</link>
		<dc:creator>TheSophist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agreed with your post.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Incidentally, I remember there are seven orthodoxies that if you deny, you are not really a Christian.  All the sects and denominations of Christianity subscribe to all seven of these core beliefs.  It was a long time ago in confirmation class -- anyone know them off the top of his/her head?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The few I sorta remember...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Divinity of Christ
Resurrection
The Trinity&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Time for me to do some homework, it seems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-TS&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed with your post.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I remember there are seven orthodoxies that if you deny, you are not really a Christian.  All the sects and denominations of Christianity subscribe to all seven of these core beliefs.  It was a long time ago in confirmation class &#8212; anyone know them off the top of his/her head?</p>
<p>The few I sorta remember&#8230;</p>
<p>Divinity of Christ<br />
Resurrection<br />
The Trinity</p>
<p>Time for me to do some homework, it seems.</p>
<p>-TS</p>
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		<title>By: JCognition</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCognition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 00:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Side-by-side comparison of Saddleback interviews of Senators Obama and McCain:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thirty-thousand.org/pages/Saddleback_16AUG2008.htm"&gt;http://www.thirty-thousand.org/pages/Saddleback_16AUG2008.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Side-by-side comparison of Saddleback interviews of Senators Obama and McCain:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thirty-thousand.org/pages/Saddleback_16AUG2008.htm">http://www.thirty-thousand.org/pages/Saddleback_16AUG2008.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Noel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I Was Wrong... &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;AND RICK WARREN WAS RIGHT!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I first heard about the Saddleback event, I was concerned that it would elevate an undeserving Obama while allowing the candidates to dodge the tough questions. Upon further consideration, I needn't have been concerned.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Warren was right to invite them both. And it was enough to just let them talk, even though, because of time, there were no follow-ups; McCain got away with saying he opposed his party on torture, even though the debate was whether preventing another attack by scaring the hell out of a terrorist with waterboarding constitutes "torture" in the first place. And Obama got away with many things, such as claiming he'd support merit pay, which the unions will never allow him to do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still, Pastor Warren's format had a simple but brilliant integrity; by asking the exact same questions to both candidates, Warren not only provided apples-to-apples comparisons for undecided voters, he exposed the Lop-Sided Media for the frauds they've become. A balanced press wouldn't toss softballs to their favorite, while slinging hardballs at Republicans. The My-Left-Foot, Thigh, Calf, Ankle, Hip and Pinky-Media was the real loser.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But not the only one. McCain wiped the floor with Teleprompter Man. Period. It still doesn't mean Maverick is the greatest conservative ever--sadly, he's not. But, man, is that floor shiny!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And for the record, your Honor, Barack Obama isn't qualified to carry Clarence Thomas' jock strap. In fact, he's not qualified to carry the jock strap of the accountant who does the books for the auto mechanic who fixes the car of the guy who delivers Chinese take-out to Clarence Thomas' house.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But Andrew Sullivan is.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Was Wrong&#8230; </p>
<p>AND RICK WARREN WAS RIGHT!</p>
<p>When I first heard about the Saddleback event, I was concerned that it would elevate an undeserving Obama while allowing the candidates to dodge the tough questions. Upon further consideration, I needn&#8217;t have been concerned.</p>
<p>Warren was right to invite them both. And it was enough to just let them talk, even though, because of time, there were no follow-ups; McCain got away with saying he opposed his party on torture, even though the debate was whether preventing another attack by scaring the hell out of a terrorist with waterboarding constitutes &#8220;torture&#8221; in the first place. And Obama got away with many things, such as claiming he&#8217;d support merit pay, which the unions will never allow him to do.</p>
<p>Still, Pastor Warren&#8217;s format had a simple but brilliant integrity; by asking the exact same questions to both candidates, Warren not only provided apples-to-apples comparisons for undecided voters, he exposed the Lop-Sided Media for the frauds they&#8217;ve become. A balanced press wouldn&#8217;t toss softballs to their favorite, while slinging hardballs at Republicans. The My-Left-Foot, Thigh, Calf, Ankle, Hip and Pinky-Media was the real loser.</p>
<p>But not the only one. McCain wiped the floor with Teleprompter Man. Period. It still doesn&#8217;t mean Maverick is the greatest conservative ever&#8211;sadly, he&#8217;s not. But, man, is that floor shiny!</p>
<p>And for the record, your Honor, Barack Obama isn&#8217;t qualified to carry Clarence Thomas&#8217; jock strap. In fact, he&#8217;s not qualified to carry the jock strap of the accountant who does the books for the auto mechanic who fixes the car of the guy who delivers Chinese take-out to Clarence Thomas&#8217; house.</p>
<p>But Andrew Sullivan is.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That's the jist of it, right there.  We can draw conclusions about one's spiritual standing based on the fruits they produce.  If a "Christian" is not producing fruits of the Spirit, they probably don't possess the Spirit.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the jist of it, right there.  We can draw conclusions about one&#8217;s spiritual standing based on the fruits they produce.  If a &#8220;Christian&#8221; is not producing fruits of the Spirit, they probably don&#8217;t possess the Spirit.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;to just "McCain cheated."&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to just &#8220;McCain cheated.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/08/18/how-do-we-know-john-mccain-did-best-at-saddle/#comment-3791</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I meant to say "And now that's what Andrea Mitchell has put out &lt;strong&gt;publicly.&lt;/strong&gt;"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It doesn't make any sense the other way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since I had to add this, I might as well vent a bit more.  What Mitchell did was the opposite of "journalism."  She took a slanderous claim and gave it a patina of credibility by repeating it in a "news" forum.  Adding injury to that insult, she spread the baseless rumor around the world.  The only saving grace is that she did attribute it to the Obama staff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yet, it's being repeated again and again as if it were true, which is exactly what the Obama camp wanted.  The story today isn't that Obama fell on his face, but that McCain cheated.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And remember the '$5 million makes you rich--I know that number will be twisted' comment?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It took Obama only two days to make the prediction come true.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to say &#8220;And now that&#8217;s what Andrea Mitchell has put out <strong>publicly.</strong>&#8220;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t make any sense the other way.</p>
<p>Since I had to add this, I might as well vent a bit more.  What Mitchell did was the opposite of &#8220;journalism.&#8221;  She took a slanderous claim and gave it a patina of credibility by repeating it in a &#8220;news&#8221; forum.  Adding injury to that insult, she spread the baseless rumor around the world.  The only saving grace is that she did attribute it to the Obama staff.</p>
<p>Yet, it&#8217;s being repeated again and again as if it were true, which is exactly what the Obama camp wanted.  The story today isn&#8217;t that Obama fell on his face, but that McCain cheated.</p>
<p>And remember the &#8216;$5 million makes you rich&#8211;I know that number will be twisted&#8217; comment?</p>
<p>It took Obama only two days to make the prediction come true.</p>
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		<title>By: CSUFBomb</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/08/18/how-do-we-know-john-mccain-did-best-at-saddle/#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>CSUFBomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...the guy standing outside Saddleback with his crazy eyes and moth-ravaged Ron Paul t-shirt sounded more lucid than er, um, erm, Uhbama. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Barack without his teleprompter is like Linus without his blanket.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the guy standing outside Saddleback with his crazy eyes and moth-ravaged Ron Paul t-shirt sounded more lucid than er, um, erm, Uhbama. </p>
<p>Barack without his teleprompter is like Linus without his blanket.</p>
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		<title>By: CSUFBomb</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/08/18/how-do-we-know-john-mccain-did-best-at-saddle/#comment-3789</link>
		<dc:creator>CSUFBomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...he asked if we could swing by the post office so he could mail a letter.  I pulled up and he handed me a letter, addressed to McCain, to drop in the mailbox.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My father is in his 70s and was perhaps McCain's least enthusiastic supporter.  As recentl;y as last week he told me he would vote for McCain, but wouldn't support him in any other way.  However, he was so impressed by McCain's responses at Saddleback that he wrote a check. &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;he asked if we could swing by the post office so he could mail a letter.  I pulled up and he handed me a letter, addressed to McCain, to drop in the mailbox.  </p>
<p>My father is in his 70s and was perhaps McCain&#8217;s least enthusiastic supporter.  As recentl;y as last week he told me he would vote for McCain, but wouldn&#8217;t support him in any other way.  However, he was so impressed by McCain&#8217;s responses at Saddleback that he wrote a check. </p>
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		<title>By: tcgeol</title>
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		<dc:creator>tcgeol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama doesn't show any.  I can't say for sure whether or not he is a Christian any more than I can say you are or not or whether Erick is or not.  Maybe he truly does trust Christ, but I have to doubt it.  But I can say that while Erick has shown fruit in his writings here, nothing in Obama's life indicates that.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm not saying he isn't a Christian, just that I see no evidence of it, and that evidence should be there.  Its one thing to say that you don't believe that someone is a Christian from their words and actions - that is legitimate.  It is a different matter to dogmatically say that someone is not a Christian.  There you take perogative that belongs to God alone.  On the other hand, there are certain doctrinal issues that can't be debated.  If those are rejected, then I would dogmatically say that that person is not a Christian.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama doesn&#8217;t show any.  I can&#8217;t say for sure whether or not he is a Christian any more than I can say you are or not or whether Erick is or not.  Maybe he truly does trust Christ, but I have to doubt it.  But I can say that while Erick has shown fruit in his writings here, nothing in Obama&#8217;s life indicates that.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying he isn&#8217;t a Christian, just that I see no evidence of it, and that evidence should be there.  Its one thing to say that you don&#8217;t believe that someone is a Christian from their words and actions - that is legitimate.  It is a different matter to dogmatically say that someone is not a Christian.  There you take perogative that belongs to God alone.  On the other hand, there are certain doctrinal issues that can&#8217;t be debated.  If those are rejected, then I would dogmatically say that that person is not a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, if it leads to a small "civil war"....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if it leads to a small &#8220;civil war&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;After all, they don't want you to know it's not real until After you have some...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all, they don&#8217;t want you to know it&#8217;s not real until After you have some&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is the outright admission of loss, of FAILURE, at the Saddleback debate by Obama.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When was the last time you ever saw a politician claim defeat at a debate?  Isn't it always, "Well, we won on this topic..." or "We won because..."?  Where is the positive spin?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;"We lost because he cheated."
All I see is "We (Obama) lost."
Which translates to "Obama failed.  Obama is 2nd best."&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the outright admission of loss, of FAILURE, at the Saddleback debate by Obama.</p>
<p>When was the last time you ever saw a politician claim defeat at a debate?  Isn&#8217;t it always, &#8220;Well, we won on this topic&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;We won because&#8230;&#8221;?  Where is the positive spin?</p>
<p>&#8220;We lost because he cheated.&#8221;<br />
All I see is &#8220;We (Obama) lost.&#8221;<br />
Which translates to &#8220;Obama failed.  Obama is 2nd best.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: blooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>blooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there still such a thing as Happy Hour?  I thought MADD got that abolished.  I've been out of circulation for a while.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I recall, it wasn't Happy Hour that caused barfights.  It was Mean Drunk Hour, which immediately followed:D&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there still such a thing as Happy Hour?  I thought MADD got that abolished.  I&#8217;ve been out of circulation for a while.  </p>
<p>As I recall, it wasn&#8217;t Happy Hour that caused barfights.  It was Mean Drunk Hour, which immediately followed:D</p>
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		<title>By: blooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>blooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, Darlajune, it's Happy Hour.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: speciallist</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/08/18/how-do-we-know-john-mccain-did-best-at-saddle/#comment-3782</link>
		<dc:creator>speciallist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;n/p&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: aaronbg</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...if Happy Hour results in a barfight can we really call it happy hour?.....;^)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;if Happy Hour results in a barfight can we really call it happy hour?&#8230;..;^)</p>
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		<title>By: blooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>blooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'll just slip quietly out the backdoor rather than get in a barfight with my brother, so I can come back for Happy Hour the next day;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;burning bridges, and such.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>burning bridges, and such.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronbg</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;n/t&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: simpson316</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;about the cross POW story.  They claim that he stole it from Solzhenitsyn.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Byron York puts this one to be by talking to one of &lt;a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGZiOGI3OTQ3YWMxYzFhM2UyYTk3NzJiYTM4MGNiY2U="&gt;McCain's fellow POWs.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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  &lt;p&gt;"I recall John telling that story when we first got together in 1971, when were talking about every conceivable thing that had ever happened to us when we were in prison" Swindle told me a few minutes ago.  "Most of us had been kept apart or in small groups.  Then, in 1970, they moved us into the big cell.  And when we all got to see each other and talk to each other directly, instead of tapping through walls, we had 24 hours a day, seven days a week to talk to each other, and we shared stories.  I vaguely recall that story being told, among other stories."&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;"I remember it from prison," Swindle continued.  "There were several stories similar to that in which guards — a very few, I might add — showed compassion to the prisoners.  It was rare, and I never met one, but some of the guys did."&lt;/p&gt;
  
  &lt;p&gt;As for the people who are questioning McCain's account, Swindle said, "That's garbage.  These people are desperate."&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So much for that line of attack.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about the cross POW story.  They claim that he stole it from Solzhenitsyn.</p>
<p>Byron York puts this one to be by talking to one of <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGZiOGI3OTQ3YWMxYzFhM2UyYTk3NzJiYTM4MGNiY2U=">McCain&#8217;s fellow POWs.</a></p>
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<p>&#8220;I recall John telling that story when we first got together in 1971, when were talking about every conceivable thing that had ever happened to us when we were in prison&#8221; Swindle told me a few minutes ago.  &#8220;Most of us had been kept apart or in small groups.  Then, in 1970, they moved us into the big cell.  And when we all got to see each other and talk to each other directly, instead of tapping through walls, we had 24 hours a day, seven days a week to talk to each other, and we shared stories.  I vaguely recall that story being told, among other stories.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I remember it from prison,&#8221; Swindle continued.  &#8220;There were several stories similar to that in which guards — a very few, I might add — showed compassion to the prisoners.  It was rare, and I never met one, but some of the guys did.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the people who are questioning McCain&#8217;s account, Swindle said, &#8220;That&#8217;s garbage.  These people are desperate.&#8221;</p>
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<p>So much for that line of attack.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronbg</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/08/18/how-do-we-know-john-mccain-did-best-at-saddle/#comment-3777</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>n/t</p>
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