Let’s Welcome Joe Biden to the Ticket

nicfit

LOVE the new video, love Barack’s choice– thanks Obama! I was really concerned he’d choose Hillary. Now that he hasn’t I say McCain seizes the disenfranchised Hillary supporters with another maverick move– choosing Lieberman as his running mate. He could pull all the independents and pissed-off Hill Lovers! Talk about a “change” ticket! It would be political gold! Plus, I think the religious right will still back him since the other choice (Obama) is just SOOOO unpalatable. I know this is a controversial suggestion, but I can’t think of a better match for JOhn McCain than the other straight-shooting, mind-of-his-own, tough on security, fiscal conservative senator: Joe Lieberman. McCain/Lieberman would clean the Dem’s clock!

blooch

i’m intrigued by this novel idea please tell me more.

blooch

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smill1953

I think McCain should pick Michael Steele as his running mate.

jonreagan

The good news here is that Obama is dancing to the GOP’s fiddle….talk about Biden didn’t begin in earnest until the Russia/Georgia flare-up happened. McCain and his surrogates stepped up the attacks on Obama’s foreign policy credentials (such as they are), and Team Obama responded by seeking out the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to be his running mate. In the process, Barry is trying to play on our turf, and will clearly lose.

I actually thought these guys were smarter than to committ such a dumb mistake. Never play to your opponent’s strong suit. Bill Clinton focused on the economy….he knew he would lose if he tried to engage Bush Sr. on national defense issues. Some guy with a name like Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can neutralize McCain’s foreign policy strength by picking Joe Biden? DUMB….

nicfit

Well, first off,I think the McCain and Lieberman actually have a friendship (unlike most politically useful ticket match-ups). I think they’ve both used their entire careers to do not what their parties think they should do but what they think is RIGHT, so I just personally really like them.

What I also like is WINNING. And what I see are a LOT of angry Hillary lovers (I like to spy on their posts in unusual spots… especially perezhilton.com, where the readers tend to skew young and liberal). Well, they aren’t happy with Biden, and they are still mad about HIllary getting dissed (in their view). I see a perfect opportunity open right up for us. We exploit that the Dems chose a VP who criticizes Obama (esp. after Obama claims that he didn’t want Hillary for veep because he wanted someone who would not try to overstep their roll… Biden undermines that with his doubts about Obama from the jump!), and we offer a viable alternative for all those who really see Obama as a media-driven, empty suit polished and packaged and adored by the media (you’d be surprised how many young people can see through the bull!)

At any rate, I feel like conservatives are not only voting FOR McCain, but there are plenty just voting AGAINST Obama. So that sort of secures the base, no matter how much the conservative ultra-right complain about it. Whatever happens, they AREN’T voting FOR Obama, and I don’t think they can in good conscience not do all they can to keep him out (which means voting for McCain whether they like him or not).

So, that leaves the big, wide middle and attracting all those independent voters. There isn’t a ticket on earth more attractive to independent thinkers (people who can’t commit to one party even) then a ticket that has both a Rep AND a Dem– the ones who have proven track records of working across the aisles, not toe-ing the party line. I think it is a match made in heaven, and if the dems continue the in-fighting through the convention, there will be A LOT of middle-of-the-road democrats left out in the cold. What better way to help them see the light?

THe ottom line, there would be no better “in your face” to the big, shiny “Ticket O’Change” Obama offers. YOu want change? The Repubs are running a ticket that crosses party lines. now THAT is change!

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jonreagan

There are some very bitter people in the Democratic Party right now…like half of the 18 million people who voted for Hillary. When HRC gives her speech this week, those voters are going to watch their dream go down in flames. Lieberman would be a good choice in some ways, but think about it:
–That would give you four sitting Senators as the major party nominees
–All are career legislators…not one person with any management skill set. All individuals who have spent their entire lives in governmnent.
– so PLEASE: can we have at least one person from the private sector!! Let’s face it, the economy does need help.

Carly Fiorina would be an incredible choice for VP: former CEO of a DOW company, one with huge international exposure. And I would just LOVE to hear the Dems suggest that she lacks the requisite background for the job…..she would bring more executive experience than the other three nominees combined (actually, that’s kind of frightening…)

Fiorina is sharp, articulate, and attractive…and trust me: those disgruntled Dems would flock to the GOP in droves, and Fiorina would quickly be the star of the entire group. Pro-growth, pro-business, pro-jobs, Reagan economic policies.

Joe_Schmo

EPU is a friggin’ genius!

Mike_Dugas

Listen nitwit…err nicfit that is. There’s no way McCain wins if he picks Joe.
The only things Lieberman agrees with us on
are Israel and the War on Terror. If he were to pick Joe he’d lose sooo much of the base he would lose the election. And how can you call Lieberman a fiscal conservative….he votes Dem on social issues and those issue’s ain’t cheap!

Jeff_Emanuel

Just FYI.

ConservaGeek

The GOP base has spoken loud and clear… if McCain picks Lieberman, we either vote Bob Barr or stay home (at least figuratively, we may vote on other races, but skip President).

No politician in history has ever won without the support of his base, and McCain will not–I say again, WILL NOT–be the first.

nicfit

Really? Calling me a name is a good way for you to argue against my point? Are you sure you’re not a Dem trolling Rep. message boards, because you sure did just act like one.

Even if you disagree with me, you could show a little respect.

ConservaGeek

I notice that while berating Mike for calling you a name, you called him a name.

How about showing some of that respect you’re asking Mike for?

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Moe_Lane

Dishonors are even all around, so everybody involved, go have a sandwich or something.

Moe Lane, site moderator

dld1717

Welcome Joe Biden to national stage

To I was For War Before I was Against It
To being a caught liar
To calling Obama on his bluff
To being a career politician so much for change
To making ethnic slurs

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I know…eggs…but maybe your wife?..if not, look around for breakfast

blooch

Barry: Joe, we need to–jeebus look at those yavos!!”

Biden: “Shhh! It’s not mine, it’s Dodd’s.”

Barry: Uh huh…I guess that box of tissue is his, too. Heh heh.”

Biden: I’m serious, man…and he’ll be back any minute! Can we talk later, please?”

Barry: Don’t freak out, Joe…heh heh. I’m gonna keep an eye on you two. Txt you later, man.”

Ezekiel

Specifically, Obama will lose voters to the green party candidate, whomever that is this year (Nader?, who cares anyway). Here’s why:

He is attracting a lot of votes from the “disenfranchised left.” Those folks went with the greens last time. He had them until this pick. With Biden, all of a sudden this pick looks like “more of the same.”

c17wife

response ad says it all pretty well. Not s ure we can top that.
By I guess you computer gurus can give it a whirl. Whatever the outcome, it will be good comedy.

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shelbysbest

Pit the wealthy against the middle class. Yeah, that’s real change. NOT!

Vladimir

“I’ve had a great relationship [with Indian Americans],” Biden said. “In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.”

Make him eat those words like so many donut holes.

janis

and read a few of their comments. They are all drooling about Joe Biden. Apparently Obama can do NO wrong in their eyes. One wonders if they even know where Biden stands on things like Iraq. They are also pretty gleeful at the prospect that “the Rethugs are running scared now! Joe’s got them on the ropes!” And other such witticisms.

They must not venture out much beyond their hemp patches.

dld1717

I find those comments on Indian Americans to be so insulting and such an ethnic slur. If Dems gave Allen hell in VA for his comments this is even worse.

aaronbg

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Maggie_in_Indiana

for the 527′s and for the McCain Veep.McCain should stay hands off Biden.

Rick Santorum would a safe and logical pick for McCain.Not much to attack on and he could fill the POTUS shoes.

SteveLA

Not interested.

At least during the campaign he did.

nicfit

I’m sorry. I apologize for calling Mike Dugas a democrat.

aaronbg

…could you just imagine…Fred would have Biden in a rear naked choke within the first 3 questions…metaphorically speaking of course…;^)

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aaronbg

…you sure do show a lot of snark for only being here for 2 hours….especially when responding to a site moderator. You should probably check yourself at this point and apologize again only this time properly.

But I am not a moderator so don’t bother listening to me.

SteveLA

If the energized Fred from the start of the primary season or the one that tended to not want to be bothered showed up.

I know Fred Heads get upset, but Fred sort of mailed it in at some stages of the race. I never understood why, but Fred seemed to lack a fire in the belly at times late in the race.

Moe_Lane

It has been a fun trip. She’s off snorkeling while I get some last-minute shopping in: tonight, we do an authentically inauthentic luau, and tomorrow we take until the end of time itself to fly back to the mainland.

Rusty_S

McCain/Hillary ’08! Then watch the heads explode…

Nick_Haynes

And remember, 3 a.m. EDT is only midnight in Hollywood and morning in Europe.

He wants to pose as a Reaganesque figure for the Left. What better way than a message like this?

aaronbg

…you had Rudy and McCain and Huckabee and Mitt all peaking at the same time and the debate moderators basically ignored the rest of the candidates…heck the first couple debates that Fred was in RonPaul RonPaul RonPaul got more questions than him. Too big of a field with too many “front runners”.

So with all that said I think in a one on one debate he would bi*#@ slap Biden on a regular basis.

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Those little blue drinks in the plastic cups go down QUICK…and they are NEVER empty

Maggie_in_Indiana

and was trying to deliver it. The popular image was the theme for the Primaries.

Fred would be a great Veep,but a better Supreme Court Justice.

aaronbg

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freetexpal

Well…one thing is certain…if I were voting for the big “0″ (zero) to start with…he would have just shot himself in the foot in my foxhole.

I guess these two deserve eachother, since they both learned from the same master-teacher & mentor…”Karl Marx”.

“If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…it must be a duck.”

Marxists of a feather flock together.

Maggie_in_Indiana

for him at 3 am. One of his kids?

ConservaGeek

Sure, the nutroots will support Biden, but then the nutroots would apologize for Obama if he was found walking out of a bank with a mask on, a gun in one hand and a bag of money (with a dye pack inside) in the other.

Biden, however, turns off the undecideds, and those are the ones Obama needs to turn on, which he hasn’t done yet.

nicfit

to all involved on this message board.

I’m sorry I’m new and haven’t been around long enough to get past your suspicions, but to be honest, I haven’t been energized enough this year to even seek out a message board until this morning when I heard Obama’s awful choice for VP. And I wanted to voice my opinion that I didn’t think that we should make the same mistake in choosing a veep.

So I come here and throw in my two cents expecting this to be a forum to share some respectful discourse. Instead, I am immediately insulted, and then when I defend myself castigated by the evident legions of you who don’t like newcomers. So my apologies. To all of you. For mistakenly expecting this to be a place for ALL Repubs, (not just the ones who got in on the ground floor) to discuss ideas. Oops.

Oh, and I’m always snarky, and judging by the tone around here, you guys could do with some levity. You come off as humorless as Barack Obama. So I won’t apologize for that (my snarkiness). I did apologize for the dem comment– that was a low blow. But I’m not going to apologize for the others as I haven’t received my apology yet.

That said, I think I my point originally was a valid one. And I understand that many people here don’t. But I think there are a lot more undecideds and upset Clintonites than there are right-wingers who will be so knotted-up over not getting their VP way that they actually stay home! If they do, they know that’ll mean Obama, and if he gets in I don’t think its totally out of the realm of possibility that he uses all the tax money he bilks out of us to set up mobile abortion clinics.

I think we need to reach to the middle. But I’ve always been a rather moderate person, and so I’m sorry again, if I don’t meet your standards as a Republican. But there’s one thing you can’t do, and that’s stop me from voting for John McCain in November, no matter who his running mate may be (even if its Mitt Romney- yuck). Because I’m a true Republican and I know no matter what, it is party of person.

So go ahead and insult me some more and report me for being snarky or whatever it is you do. When you get done, can we PLEASE discuss running mates and why our party continues to bow to the right-wing minority. Can anyone really claim that if the VP is pro-choice that it will really affect abortion laws? Even more so than letting Obama walk away with this?

Lets let the Dems be divided people, and show them some unity. Not just within the party, but with a nation.

nicfit

to all involved on this message board.

I’m sorry I’m new and haven’t been around long enough to get past your suspicions, but to be honest, I haven’t been energized enough this year to even seek out a message board until this morning when I heard Obama’s awful choice for VP. And I wanted to voice my opinion that I didn’t think that we should make the same mistake in choosing a veep.

So I come here and throw in my two cents expecting this to be a forum to share some respectful discourse. Instead, I am immediately insulted, and then when I defend myself castigated by the evident legions of you who don’t like newcomers. So my apologies. To all of you. For mistakenly expecting this to be a place for ALL Repubs, (not just the ones who got in on the ground floor) to discuss ideas. Oops.

Oh, and I’m always snarky, and judging by the tone around here, you guys could do with some levity. You come off as humorless as Barack Obama. So I won’t apologize for that (my snarkiness). I did apologize for the dem comment– that was a low blow. But I’m not going to apologize for the others as I haven’t received my apology yet.

That said, I think I my point originally was a valid one. And I understand that many people here don’t. But I think there are a lot more undecideds and upset Clintonites than there are right-wingers who will be so knotted-up over not getting their VP way that they actually stay home! If they do, they know that’ll mean Obama, and if he gets in I don’t think its totally out of the realm of possibility that he uses all the tax money he bilks out of us to set up mobile abortion clinics.

I think we need to reach to the middle. But I’ve always been a rather moderate person, and so I’m sorry again, if I don’t meet your standards as a Republican. But there’s one thing you can’t do, and that’s stop me from voting for John McCain in November, no matter who his running mate may be (even if its Mitt Romney- yuck). Because I’m a true Republican and I know no matter what, it is party of person.

So go ahead and insult me some more and report me for being snarky or whatever it is you do. When you get done, can we PLEASE discuss running mates and why our party continues to bow to the right-wing minority. Can anyone really claim that if the VP is pro-choice that it will really affect abortion laws? Even more so than letting Obama walk away with this?

Lets let the Dems be divided people, and show them some unity. Not just within the party, but with a nation.

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nicfit

funny! I don’t know… I think everyone would be (rightfully) nervous putting HIll in the #2 position for your job… what with all the wackos wandering around who can easily be framed for assassinations!

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Trelaina

that you not judge the entire site and its members on a response by one person.

You’ll notice that along with the comment you didn’t appreciate, you also got one that responded to your statement and offered other options, in a way that fully represents what you likely expected to see here.

ConservaGeek

…we have some lovely parting gifts for you.

If you’d stuck with the tone of your apology, you might be hanging around here for a while.

But, as it is… well, I’ll take this opportunity to say fare thee well.

aaronbg

So my apologies. To all of you. For mistakenly expecting this to be a place for ALL Repubs, (not just the ones who got in on the ground floor) to discuss ideas. Oops.

Nice fake apology…Republicans don’t play the victim card.

Oh, and I’m always snarky, and judging by the tone around here, you guys could do with some levity.

We have plenty of snark we just try to stay away from being snarky to each other rather we use our snark against our opponents.

But I think there are a lot more undecideds and upset Clintonites than there are right-wingers who will be so knotted-up over not getting their VP way that they actually stay home!

Yeah that’s the way to sound like a Republican offer up a Democrat* as a VP pick….and rag on those rabid right-wingers while you are at it.

I think we need to reach to the middle. But I’ve always been a rather moderate person, and so I’m sorry again, if I don’t meet your standards as a Republican.

McCain is the reach to the middle…now we need him to reach out to the Right with his VP pick.

So go ahead and insult me some more and report me for being snarky or whatever it is you do. When you get done, can we PLEASE discuss running mates and why our party continues to bow to the right-wing minority.

I never once insulted you…more victimization….of and I love the Right-wing minority….ha ha ha…we on the Right like to call that “the Base”.

So keep it up NicFit…I how your longevity matches your love of conservatism.

I know Joe is now an independent but that is purely because of his stands on Israel and the GWOT. Other than those two things he is a liberal bottom line, and that is not good for the Republican party of the Country as a whole.

Pentagon16

a lot of people are not happy with Carly Fiorina’s tenure, but Meg Whitman of EBay has been universally praised for her tenure.

She would make a better pick- and I think the best pick for VP.

mccainbreaux

She will make a good Governor of California, though.

WOSG

I agree. She didn’t led HP to glory, she led them to market share lossess vs Dell, tried to ‘grow’ via a Compaq merger that was typical management hash, and it was her successor who has kicked HP into higher gear. This is second hand via biz reporting, I never worked there, but market share and revenues tell the story well enough.

(That doesnt mean that she isnt smarter than Obama and Biden combined, but damning with faint praise there.)

Besides … This idea of putting non-politicians and total unkowns into a position like VP is absurd and dangerous. These are names to maybe think about for secty of Commerce, not for VP fer cryin out loud.

I feel like people are engaging in bouts of temporary insanity. Here’s a simple rule:

If you were never before elected on the Republican ticket for a political office or didnt lead American forces to win a major war for the country, you don’t deserve a slot on the Republican Presidential ticket.

Forget Lieberman, Meg Whitman, Carly, etc. they are terrible ideas.

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com/2008/08/bad-choice-barack-picks-sub-average-joe.html

nicfit

into that. You better rest. You’ll need your strength to fight off the tin-foil hat groups that are getting ready to descend on the media (and my immediate area) next week.

So, are you trying to convince me that I’m not a Republican?

Anyway, back to the topic at hand… I stand by my assertion that Joe Lieberman would make a darn fine VP nomination, as there are still plenty of upset people in the middle that don’t feel that McCain is enough middle ground.

dbecraft

maybe you should try the same. After all, imitation is the best form of flattery.

dbecraft

you stated it very clearly and rightly so (my opinion). Disregard the belches from the bleachers….

aaronbg

….for the Democratic Party. Kinda like in 2000 when he ran with Al Gore. If you really believe that on the issues that Joe is the best pick for McCain to make than, yes I do have a real problem with believing that you are indeed a Republican. Issue by issues Joe is not on our side of the fence. He is pro choice he is for a progressive tax rate, these are liberal policy positions and they do not fit with the Republican Party Platform.

I am not a fan of “Republicans” who are for the redistribution of wealth or infanticide. Call me silly or mean all you want, I could care less.

And at this point I will invoke the Hinz Rule.

Rod_Patrick

One point only. I think this one is improper:

wackos wandering around who can easily be framed for assassinations!

Please never give anyone such an idea regardless of the intention or meaning. We never know who’s reading our comments here.

RS

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