Friends of Barry (Part 1): The Tangled Web Between Bill Ayers and Barack Obama


Oh what a tangled web they weave

Well, it looks like the Chicago Annenberg Challenge records are going to be opened up after all. No doubt the University of Illinois and Barack Obama’s campaign have sufficiently scrubbed the records to remove the most glaring of details about Barry’s friendship with Bill Ayers.

But we know there has to be some panic there. As we have theorized all along, Barry cannot take a punch.

Consider this: despite all the denials and assists from the media in downplaying the relationship, Barack Obama has resorted to a new ad making the case that he has no real relationship with Bill Ayers. This is full blown panic. He’s trying to build up a media sponsored and reported narrative before the world starts digging anew.

Unless those Annenberg records have been sufficiently scrubbed, it is terribly poor timing for Obama. It is an act of desperation. Obama knows people are now paying attention and he knows people are questioning both his ties to the far left and his judgment (Obama calls it “questioning my patriotism”).

The connections between Ayers and Obama, despite Obama’s commercial, are too intertwined to be merely bumps into each other on the sidewalk walking back from New Party meetings.

Bill Ayers helped found and fund Annenberg Challenge and Barack Obama ran the program. In addition, they live just a few blocks from each other in Hyde Park. In 1995, if you will recall, Bill Ayers invited Barack Obama into his living room to raise money for Barack’s Illinois Senate race. Remember, in 1995, Obama was aggressively seeking the communist New Party endorsement.

Ayers even gave Obama money in 2001 for his re-election. The same year, Ayers told the New York Times he didn’t “regret setting bombs.… I feel we didn’t do enough.” Obama did not give the money back.

Here is the key detail. Bill Ayers, a man who thinks he should have done more than try to blow up the Capitol, the Pentagon, and kill a few cops, saw something in Barry Obama that he liked. He liked Barry enough to hold a fundraiser for him and give him money.

What does an unrepentant terrorist see in a politician and like? Whatever it is, I suspect most Americans would not like it if they’d seen it. Maybe that is why Obama is in full panic mode, working hard to change the story and deny the facts.

An advisor to Senator McCain’s campaign tells me, “Senator Obama’s enduring friendship with bomber William Ayers brings serious questions about his judgment to the surface.”

I suspect, now that Obama has gone to great pains to deny the connection, thereby making it a story worth media coverage, we’re gong to be exploring the depths of Obama’s poor judgment.

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What is scary too is

ILLINOIS_CONSERV Tuesday, August 26th at 9:02AM EDT (link)

I cannot believe that Illinois University has this guy on staff. He has a pulpit from which he can spew his garbage to impressionable minds.

The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke

 

Garbage

Wayne Tuesday, August 26th at 9:22AM EDT (link)

is in the eyes of the alumni, er, beholder. Ultimately, the taxpayers are his employers, and bear responsibility for him being able to infect the skulls full of mush around him.

“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF

 

What will be interesting

CroakerNorge Tuesday, August 26th at 9:29AM EDT (link)

is how the index of the material will match the actual documents. Apparently an index is like a table of contents for the files. According the Powerline guys, Stanley Kurz was provided an index by the university before his access was denied.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/08/021285.php

Were documents removed, or maybe just pages in the documents? Either way, could be very interesting.

 

Wow

Dem_Lurker Tuesday, August 26th at 9:29AM EDT (link)

This Ayers guy sounds terrible, how many people did he kill?

25 bombings

Erick Erickson Tuesday, August 26th at 9:50AM EDT (link)

They just weren’t good enough to blow up anyone except other members of the terrorist group.

Nice try, btw.

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Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?

 
 

more lies

slowmodem Tuesday, August 26th at 9:58AM EDT (link)

Obama was on the woods board with Ayers and with a comically respectable list of Chicagoans and others — including Republicans and conservatives

More lies and attacks that is quite frankly getting pathetic. McCain must be getting desperate. The only chance he has is if he just flat out lies and his staff keeps him away from reporters.

Do some research troll.

Vegas_Rick Tuesday, August 26th at 10:02AM EDT (link)

The information is there for anyone who wants to see. If you can disprove these assertions, please do.

“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.

Nice benchmark you've got there.

blooch Tuesday, August 26th at 10:04AM EDT (link)

Or is is just a bad case of “Lurker’s Butt” which made you stand up and scratch that itch?

“I have to admit that Karl Marx (1818-1883) was a smart man. He was, in many ways, a psychologist.”–drealoth

It's not the modem which is slow (nt)

blooch Tuesday, August 26th at 10:14AM EDT (link)

nt

“I have to admit that Karl Marx (1818-1883) was a smart man. He was, in many ways, a psychologist.”–drealoth

Who is lying?

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 10:19AM EDT (link)

You will vote for Obama by November, that’s fine. But be fair. You should at least offer some explanations of the so-called “lies” in the diary. You’ve just repeated what the Ayers Ad said.

But you know what? The gravest lie that a man can come up with is “HALF TRUTH” - missing out vital information. In the Bible, it’s called The Serpent’s Lies. BO has the possession of the whole truth about his relationship with Ayers. Then he has the responsibility of telling the public about everything.

Unless BO tells everything, he is the one committing “The Serpent’s Lies”.

 
 
 
 
 

A tiny disagreement as to where this will hurt Obama, Erick.

spainishirish Tuesday, August 26th at 10:24AM EDT (link)

It won’t just be what Ayers apprehended in Obama that made him an appealling character. It also–no, mostly–will be if there is any indication Obama apprehended in Ayers and his terrorist past something he liked. It is logical to assume this was a mutual admiration club.

still no evidence of anything

slowmodem Tuesday, August 26th at 10:30AM EDT (link)

Its a lie - its all accusations but nothing of substance. Obama did work with this guy on a community board and they lived in the same neighborhood. They knew of each other and moved in the same chicago political circles along with all others of the political spectrum. Nothing about that means that obama supports communism or terrorism. You are slandering a US senator for your own personal vendetta and its disgusting. You are all traitors to this country and should be ashamed.

Let's see. Someone who associates with an unrepentant terrorist and communists

spainishirish Tuesday, August 26th at 10:39AM EDT (link)

dedicated to this nation’s destruction is not a traitor. Someone who calls that person out on it is. That’s some bizarro world you inhabit, Skippy.

slowmodem, he kicked off his political career in Ayers' house!

Tim_Schieferecke Tuesday, August 26th at 10:41AM EDT (link)

If that ain’t evidence of a cozy relationship, I don’t know what is.

Tim Schieferecke

incompetence

Streiff Tuesday, August 26th at 10:42AM EDT (link)

isn’t much of a defense.

“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”

nothing except

Streiff Tuesday, August 26th at 10:44AM EDT (link)

starting his political career in living room of a terrorist. Other than that, you mean?

“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”

still no evidence

slowmodem Tuesday, August 26th at 10:55AM EDT (link)

You still don’t have any evidence of exactly what that association is cinderella. The entire Illinois University has an association with him, I am sure lots of them attended meetings with him. Maybe they are all terrorist and commies too. I guess I misspoke, its not treason, its mccarthyism.

So you really think Obama, a US senator is a communist and terrorist. You are the one living in a bizarro world.

if the policy fits...

Attack Mode Tuesday, August 26th at 11:02AM EDT (link)

Obama has touted marxism throughout his campaign.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

Again, the Ayers associations are fine with you.

spainishirish Tuesday, August 26th at 11:03AM EDT (link)

Those who call them out are (or were) “traitors” or “McCarthyites.” I think that summary of your position is not only accurate but perhaps the greatest condemnation of Obama himself I have seen in print.

I am sure than when reams of evidence emerges, you won’t care about it. That’s the only assumption I make, Skippy.

Were you there in Chicago and part of the clique of BO and Ayers in the 90s? Are you Bo? Are You Ayers?

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 11:04AM EDT (link)

If not, please stop putting words into Obama’s mouth. Everything you say is hypothetical and a BIG LIE.

You are lying because you are pretending to be fully knowledgeable of an inside story that you are totally ignorant of.

Finally, you are the one who is guilty of slander. Where can you find international Communists and all anti-American group who want to sell America to the enemies? DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

By your standard Mr. Slowmodem,

DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THE PARTY OF THE TRAITORS.

Change your style please.

Agree 100%

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 11:07AM EDT (link)

Obama could bite the head off a puppy on tape and slowmodem would still say "no evidence".

Tim_Schieferecke Tuesday, August 26th at 11:07AM EDT (link)

I grew up on a farm, but I quickly tired of talking to fenceposts.

Tim Schieferecke

Reams of evidence?

Dem_Lurker Tuesday, August 26th at 11:53AM EDT (link)

right next to the Michelle Obama “whitey” tapes?

marxism?

slowmodem Tuesday, August 26th at 12:36PM EDT (link)

“Obama has touted marxism throughout his campaign”

That is by far the most outrageous claim I have ever heard. Any evidence of this? links? anything?

sigh- still waiting for evidence.

slowmodem Tuesday, August 26th at 12:45PM EDT (link)

Well when “Obama bites the head off a puppy on tape” or even if there are reams of evidence that emerge, I will see your point and not vote for him- until then none of you have any evidence and all of you have lots of weak accusations.

you are right...your job here is done...

Attack Mode Tuesday, August 26th at 12:56PM EDT (link)

…you stumped us all…now can you go back to DKos?

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

confused

slowmodem Tuesday, August 26th at 12:59PM EDT (link)

“Were you there in Chicago and part of the clique of BO and Ayers in the 90s? Are you Bo? Are You Ayers?”

Cute - but by that logic neither were you or anyone else making false accusations.

“Finally, you are the one who is guilty of slander. Where can you find international Communists and all anti-American group who want to sell America to the enemies? DEMOCRATIC PARTY.”

What are you an insane person? How many democrats sold america to the enemies? Better yet how many republicans have a history of selling the enemy weapons- don’t bother answering… keep ranting in CAPSLOCKSS!!!! mission accomplished.

Despite Obama's best efforts to seal them, yes.

spainishirish Tuesday, August 26th at 1:02PM EDT (link)

I never bought the tapes story, incidentally, but when I see this much litigation and obfuscation “reams” is easy to write.

Evidence?

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 1:07PM EDT (link)

The issue of Ayers is different from the whitey tape. Which evidence you’re looking for? BO is Communist?

Of course, there is no evidence. He never admitted in his books that he attended some communist/socialist meetings in Chicago.

Who cares if CPUSA, Democratic Socialists of America (many are members of TUCC), Young Communists League, AFL-CIO and radical labor unions, Democrats who are advocating for World Government, Che Guevarra sympathizers, Anti-US troop CODEPINK, Moveon, Sen. Sanders, Socialist/Communists parties in Europe, Socialists in Latin America, and so on ARE SUPPORTING your Obama. You call them Guilty By Association.

Who cares if BO’s father is a hardline socialist, Odinga is a socialist, her white grandmother is a Socialist supporter. You call them Guilty by Blood Relation.

If someone forces the issue, that’s definitely McCarthyism. Right? NO EVIDENCE AT ALL.

Friends and relatives don’t define the person. It’s the person’s individuality that is important. That’s why Obama is advocating for collectivism, right?

NO EVIDENCE AT ALL. Period.

BUT

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 1:23PM EDT (link)

The issue of Ayers is more than the issue of Obama as a socialist. It’s about the “not so clean” activities by Ayers and Obama in dispensing funds to supposedly non-partisan NGOs and foundations, including Khalidi’s AAAN.

RS is not really the place for these issues. RS is for advancing conservative principles. Please go to other websites such as this one: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org

The site offers thousands of accusation againt Obama based on records. I am not saying they are true. I never made any “analytical work” to prove or disprove them. Since you support Obama, may be you can offer counter-evidence.

Sigh...are you a retread?

blooch Tuesday, August 26th at 1:36PM EDT (link)

Or are there just a lot of sighing trolls out there? Seems to be a common trait…maybe it’s just waiting on that slow modem that causes your exhalations.

Anyhow, why don’t you go back to the basement and wait for us to report on the sanitized Annenberg records? You seem quite willing to deny any affinty between Ayers and Obama beyond the coincidental and occasional, and you seem perfectly willing to assume Obama was but a political naif who knew nothing of Ayers’ infamy when he kicked off his political career in Ayers’ house.

That fact alone is enough for most of us here, but if you require signed documents, letters, e-mails, wedding pictures and wall posters to convince you that Bill Ayers is, indeed, the same Bill Ayers that Obama didn’t know when he was eight years old but knew quite well when he was forty years old, then you’ll just have to stop worrying that old shoe you’ve found and wait until we can throw you a bone.

Now, go down to the basement,or go outside and stop peeing on the carpet.

Sigh….

“I have to admit that Karl Marx (1818-1883) was a smart man. He was, in many ways, a psychologist.”–drealoth

Oh, and the New Party

Michael Schuyler Tuesday, August 26th at 1:39PM EDT (link)

It’s not just his ties with Bomber Ayers. He also stood for election as a New Party candidate for the Illinois legislator and worked for Acorn. 1-2-3. Add them up. Then you have his Communist mentor in Hawaii, Jeremiah Wright’s racist diatribes, and his ties with Rezko, the slumlord. 4-5-6. Add them up. Rezko offered him a job he did not take. Ayers made him chair of the Annenberg Challenge, a completely failed project to ‘improve the schiools’ which wasted $150 million. This is far from ‘just a guy in the neighborhood’ which he claimed.

Those who do not read good books have no advantage over those who cannot read them — Mark Twain

YOU are a TROLL with a mission. But you never accomplished your mission!

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 1:53PM EDT (link)
  1. You admitted that your kind “sold” America. Your take of my “want to sell America” is crude enough for further discussion.

  2. It’s your kind who are insane! Look at the protesters in your Denver Convention and tell me if not many of you are insane!You resorted to name-calling when your Party is touched, just like your friends and brothers marching in Denver. Go to anger management class. Bring your friends.

  3. American weapons sold by Republicans. Wow! You really belong to the Denver group.

I was wrong. You are not worthy of my time. GO AWAY TROLL!

Are you an idio? Go to dictionary and find marxism. It's what coming from BO's mouth and his socialist cronies that are marxist! <nt>

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 2:00PM EDT (link)

To RS guys, sorry for the word.

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 2:03PM EDT (link)

Sorry. Obama is not a marxist

shooflyguy68 Tuesday, August 26th at 2:25PM EDT (link)

If you can show me where he wants the government to take over the means of production, eliminate organized religion, etc. He is not even a Socialist. He is an American Liberal which means that he is for some relatively minor redistribution of wealth and income, an increased role for the government in regulating business and most recently for increased trade protectionism. All of these are counter to my political philosophy and therefore I’m not Obama’s or the Dem party’s biggest fan. However, claiming that Obama or other Dems are Marxist is almost as bad as Liberals labeling Republicans as Fascists or equating them to Hitler. The comparison is false and therefore the argument is invalid.


Insanity is so strong and forgive me.

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 2:56PM EDT (link)

But can we really tell that these pictures are not indications of insanity.

Wanting America to get out of the planet.

america off the planet

*Using innocent boy to carry a sign with Che’s picture. *
boy with che

A man in green shouting “Kill Michelle Malkin”
kill malkin

*And according to TLJAMES (a commenter):
“Next to the Greek Theater we found them…hippies, hobos, anarchists, freegans, vegans, and…a contortionist?”… “Pot smoke hung thick in the air”
*

hippies group

Samples of dems supporting Obama:
lady

man

I don’t really judge a person by his/her outward looks, but the above “looks” are fashionable statements of what democratic populace really is.

So these are but a taste of the sanity of the Democrats.

If all pictures of proofs of “sanity” in the Denver Convention are posted here… the RS will collapse.

Thus, I need to breathe fresh air … I’m signing off.

NB: All pics are NOT MINE but are borrowed from various good conservative blogs as mentioned by Blue Collar Muse.

Now, you gave a better explanation. And I accept.

Rod_Patrick Tuesday, August 26th at 3:04PM EDT (link)

But whose Obama are you talking about? The Obam of 2010? 2009? Nov 2008? Sept 2008? Today? May 2008? 2006? 2004? 1996? Or the Obama who lived in Hyde Park? I don’t really know. Obama is the Candidate of Change!

Regarding the Dems… unless they explicitly alienate themselves from CPUSA, DSA, and so on… I will accept your argument.

Maybe

buckeye Tuesday, August 26th at 7:01PM EDT (link)

Dan Rather can have them re-typed and scrubbed in a font that didn’t exist in 1995? hhhmmmm….

“Honor is self-esteem made visible in action.” - Ayn Rand, West Point, 1974

Did Ayers Hold

buckeye Tuesday, August 26th at 7:23PM EDT (link)

political fudraisers for the others “across the political spectrum”? Did he set them up as the point man to run things while he oversaw them, to be his right hand man? Did the others “across the political spectrum” seek the endorsement of the New Party? Is it the facts you dispute or the unique picture for Obama painted by the unique facts?

The truth hurts doesn’t it? And spare us the personal “traitor” attacks. Many of use out here have honored oaths to the Constitution our entire adult lives and would never vote for anyone that would darken Ayers’ door or sit on a Board with him period; Obama, any other Democrat, Republican or otherwise.

I’d say the same thing about any sitting U.S. Senator and have a First Amendment right to do so despite what Stalinists like yourself think. Criticizing the character of a U.S. Senator is not an act of treason even if it is not done in a coherent and intellectually consistent manner, which is not the case out here.

“Honor is self-esteem made visible in action.” - Ayn Rand, West Point, 1974

Speaking of McCarthy

buckeye Tuesday, August 26th at 7:34PM EDT (link)

Can you name anyone McCarthy accused of being a communist sympathizer that hasn’t turned out to have been involved with the communists politically in the 1950s? Can you give me one name? Or is that just a word you throw around like “hope” and “change”. Just curious.

“Honor is self-esteem made visible in action.” - Ayn Rand, West Point, 1974

5 N/T!!!!!!!!!!!

buckeye Tuesday, August 26th at 7:51PM EDT (link)

Looks like the Students for Peace and Justice I recall at Ohio State back in the day, a.k.a College Democrats but didn’t use that name despite all the Sherrod Browne for Sec of State signs (1988) in their office because being a political organization causes rent at the Student Union.

“Honor is self-esteem made visible in action.” - Ayn Rand, West Point, 1974

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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