National Review Rains On the Show


Standing safely off the road, abiding by all applicable rules and guidelines, suggesting in a safe and non-threatening manner that history should change lanes.

Several conservatives in the House tell me they are hacked off at National Review for a blurb that appears in the print edition of the magazine this week. Here is what National Review writes:

After the House adjourned for summer recess without voting on an energy bill, half a dozen Republicans stayed in the empty chamber, razzing the majority and calling for offshore drilling. Their number swelled to about 20 as word got out; tourists and aides were invited in; though the C-SPAN cameras were switched off, the Republicans sent reports of their doings via Twitter, and cellphone to Rush Limbaugh. Great fun was had by all, and scientists agree there may indeed be life in the House GOP caucus. But seriously, folks. Legislative bodies have rules for good reason: to maintain decorum, to see that business is done, to protect both majority and minority rights. The saving comedy of American politics allows us to write this off as a stunt — so long as everyone knows it was unseemly, and plans not to make a habit of it.

Congressman Tom Price has a post this morning about the protest on the House floor. Price, along with other conservative standard bearers in the House like Mike Pence, Jeb Hensarling, and Lynn Westmoreland organized, implemented, and led this effort.

Let’s go through the whole paragraph:

After the House adjourned for summer recess without voting on an energy bill, half a dozen Republicans stayed in the empty chamber, razzing the majority and calling for offshore drilling.

What was really not mentioned was that there was going to be a vote and Nancy abruptly adjourned the House when her side calculated that enough Republicans were tied up in a meeting with Paul Weyrich’s group that they’d have the votes to adjourn before any energy legislation could come up.

Likewise “razzing” the majority is a bit much. The speeches have all been very good, very pointed, and very detailed, pointing out sharp differences.

Their number swelled to about 20 as word got out; tourists and aides were invited in; though the C-SPAN cameras were switched off, the Republicans sent reports of their doings via Twitter, and cellphone to Rush Limbaugh.

The passive voice on the cameras should be more like this: “The Speaker ordered the cameras and lights turned off and tried to evict people from the galleries.” The “number swelled to about 20″ should more be “Republicans rotated into the chamber daily with ten members and have continued to do so.”

Great fun was had by all, and scientists agree there may indeed be life in the House GOP caucus.

Way to make it sound frivolous, National Review. I’m sure the members, like Marsha Blackburn who was facing a primary challenge that week, were having a blast avoiding the campaign trail and calls from local press to come home and defend herself against her opponent.

But seriously, folks.

They were serious. Apparently seriousness doesn’t translate too well in Manhattan. Maybe if you guys filled up cars with gas more often, it’d translate better.

Legislative bodies have rules for good reason: to maintain decorum, to see that business is done, to protect both majority and minority rights.

Yes, and when the majority tells the minority it will do something and then abruptly adjourns so it does not have to keep its word, that is really getting business done!

The saving comedy of American politics allows us to write this off as a stunt — so long as everyone knows it was unseemly, and plans not to make a habit of it.

Way to undermine the most effective thing the GOP has done in several years. Bravo National Review. In one sentence you have cut the legs out from under your conservative brethren standing on the House floor doing a heck of a lot more than the Democrats have done.

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So who is the IDIOT at NR that wrote that?

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:36AM EDT (link)

And who approved it? What an asshat. Yet ANOTHER reason Human Events is the official periodical of the conservative movement.

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OK, here we go

kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:50AM EDT (link)

Is it really necessary to call them idiots and asshats? We seem to have devolved in this movement to the point that any differences in opinion from the “standard line” are viewed with suspicion and hostility.

Remember when, just a few years ago, Myself and a few others who no longer blog here were cautioning other conservatives about adopting the style of Ann Coulter and her ilk?

Well, this is just what we were afraid of. I have felt it against me, and others have felt it and don’t even go to sites anymore.

We can have disagreements, both about substance and style. The people at National Review are conservatives and they do not have to agree 100% with Rush, or Hannity, or Human Events, or The American Spectator, or anyone else.

The trouble with endlessly attacking and demonizing your political foes is that it quickly spreads to your own allies. We should have learned that lesson from watching the left.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
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Well I'm fine with going after them for this

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:51AM EDT (link)

But I do agree that the namecalling is probably not the best option.

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So conservative media misrepresenting conservatives is ok....

Attack Mode (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 9:54AM EDT (link)

…I would think you would save your shots for the National Review considering that they appear to have taken the same stance as the MSM wrt journalistic standards. Really Kyle what NR did was shotty reporting at best and purposeful divisiveness at least.

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NR is at it again.

sandynj Tuesday, August 26th at 10:05AM EDT (link)

The gentlemen at NR are once again in a twitter or are having an attack of the vapors over nasty, uncouth activities performed by politicians. They had to fan themselves and scarf down another cucumber tea sandwich with a sip of oolong or possibly Earl Grey. This article just proves what I wrote to them when they “fired” Ann Coulter ere long. No testosterone producing organs at NR, Including Adrenal Glands.

So long and thanks for all the fish.

Well yes Kyle it is indeed necessary to call them what they are!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:08AM EDT (link)

and lo and behold a lot of us are Malkinites and really love when Ann Coulter tweaks in a mean way those idiots on the left and in the middle who tweak us!

 
 

Going After Them?

shadowtax (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:09AM EDT (link)

What does that mean?

That excerpt sounds like it is from the short section called Week In Review or some such. I believe that the editors divide topics up amongst various writers. If had to wager I put my money on John Derbyshire as the author.

The point is valid. We conservatives need to be mindful of the rules. If the shoe were on the left foot we’d be jeering the Democrats for an unconstitutional House fillibuster.

Law and Order is fundamental component of the conservative movement. Why should National Review be punished for pointing out that fact? It should not. So the author violated decorum to wrankle the GOP. Hey, wait, isn’t that what the House GOP is doing to the Dems?

Read it and think.

 

Not helping

Dan McLaughlin (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:10AM EDT (link)

nt

“No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong.” – Winston Churchill

Whoosh (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:16AM EDT (link)

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Good old National Review

johnt Tuesday, August 26th at 10:18AM EDT (link)

The marsh- mallow fist in the velvet glove, straining to maintain the decorum of the 1950′s, such as it was. Goldfish wanting to swim with and tutor the sharks, to prove they can maintain standards of civility in the face of the new barbarism and dark ignorance. Times have changed, it would help if on occasion they took the gloves off.

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ironically you're decrying

streiff (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:19AM EDT (link)

exactly what NRO did

The trouble with endlessly attacking and demonizing your political foes is that it quickly spreads to your own allies. We should have learned that lesson from watching the left.

They attacked Republicans for fighting on a winning issue, and if not demonizing them certainly ridiculing them.

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Oh by the way the NRO is not conservative it is Rockefeller Republican....there is a difference you know!

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:29AM EDT (link)

I meant NR but their online is just as Rockefeller :-)

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:30AM EDT (link)

No it was not necessary, exactly

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 10:55AM EDT (link)

It’s just a service I was happy to provide. The reason I came out so abruptly is that this is not MERELY a difference of opinion. This is an ostensibly conservative publication that once ACTUALLY WAS the flagship periodical of the conservative movement, created by the great William F Buckley.

And look what has become of them. I realize this blurb was not the entire essence of National Review, and so my ire was directed specifically to the author and his editor.

But keep in mind what happened. A right-side paper commented on a GREAT act of courage and righteous indignation in the face of a cowardly and cheap act by the House Democrats. It was snotty and insulting.

Hey if NR wants to be snotty and insulting at Republicans who are not toeing the line, then it can do so, all day, at the likes of Ted Stevens, David Vitter, Linc Chafee (when he mattered), any or all of the big earmarkers, and Bush when he does weird things like nominate Harriet Myers.

But THIS was worthy of scorn. That author is both an idiot (missing the facts) and that other thing (pointing to the Repubs as misguided and unethical), objectively speaking.

I hereby retract the ‘hat’ from my previous note.

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If you're right, it's a new development

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 11:02AM EDT (link)

And that’s what we’re disappointed with.

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Criticism

shadowtax (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 11:03AM EDT (link)

Perhaps it is ridicule. But it is hardly demonization and certainly not endless.

Am I to conclude that the blurb at issue is the extent to which National Review has covered the House GOP revolt? It appears that it is the only evidence offered in support of the indictment.

Over at NRO I have read praise for the House GOP as well as criticism of the Gang of 10 nonsense.

Overall they have done a good job covering events from the Right perspective.

I've thought there was a slide going on for years

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 11:12AM EDT (link)

I don’t think I’d go so far as to say ‘gone over to the Rockefeller side’, but I think the overall departure from WFB’s vision has been substantial. They seem more content to play the red vs blue game than to actively advocate small government, individual freedoms, law and order, and other conservative ideals. This is my opinion, and really hard to substantiate by chapter and verse. But it is a distinct impression.

And then, as if to drive us mad, they have absolute luminaries like Ponnuru and VDH.

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I let my subscription lapse after the Romney endorsement

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 11:26AM EDT (link)

I also quit reading NRO as my RS activity went up.

I wish we could get Ramesh to post on Red Hot more than the one or two times he did. :-)

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Go Alongs

Darin_H (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 11:27AM EDT (link)

Never been a big fan of NR (or NRO), but still a fan of a lot of their writers. Weird, I know. Too much “Egghead conservatism” for my taste.

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DItto on the subscription lapse

blooch Tuesday, August 26th at 11:33AM EDT (link)

and for the same reason.

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

Exactly right

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 11:36AM EDT (link)

Romney = the bland, safe endorsement. One might criticize Human Events for endorsing Fred, but there is no doubt as to what Babbin, et al, meant by it and what they stood for.

And man, Ponnuru is SO good, so very good. I don’t suppose we could entice him with, like, titles (‘Great Kahuna’, ‘RedState Ramesh’,etc) or money (a cut of the RedState profits ……..ah …. never mind). Well, I don’t have a plan to get him to participate more here.

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NRO's Downfall

ggross56 (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 11:40AM EDT (link)

I criticized NRO when they endorsed Mitt. They still do lots of good work. This article just isn’t one of those good pieces of work.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Erick nailed it with: "Maybe if you guys

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 12:06PM EDT (link)

filled up cars with gas more often, it’d translate better.”

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Disappointing

Mike Friesen (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 12:16PM EDT (link)

It is in the difficult times where true colors show.

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They're too busy

blooch Tuesday, August 26th at 12:20PM EDT (link)

pumping gas into the pulp.

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

 

I'm With You Erick

South_Park_Conservative (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 12:34PM EDT (link)

“suggesting in a safe and non-threatening manner that history should change lanes.”

Genius.

“Ponnuru is SO good, so very good”

He happens to be one of my least favorite contributors to National Review. He’s all social issues all the time which doesn’t really appeal to me.

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This is why the GOP is the 'stupid' party

Haley37 (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 12:48PM EDT (link)

Whoever wrote this needs to get reamed out for being a moron and not understanding that politics is a spectator event as well as psychological warfare.

I LOVE what the House GOP is doing because – for the first time in my memory – we are using the Democrats own tactics against them.

If the crew at NRO can’t realize this and get behind the effort then I’ve got a big, tall, cool glass of SHUT THE HELL UP for them.

Geez… what idiots!!!

Primary Endorsements

shadowtax (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 12:59PM EDT (link)

Who did Redstate endorse in the primaries?

Who was National Review “supposed” to endorse?

When rules are use to stifle debate

Mark Kilmer (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 1:14PM EDT (link)

and to keep our elected officials from enacting sane and sound energy policy, as is the case with what Nancy and co. are now doing, conservatives SHOULD NOT stand aside and watch them. The rules should not have been enforced, and thus they should be ignored.

A stunt which calls attention to these Democrat buffoons is a good stunt.

NR is NR. I subscribed from the mid-80s until several years ago when it seemed to me to have lost all direction. This type of thing confirms my judgment, and I call on Rich Lowry to find out who wrote the aboved and throw him off staff. Give your magazine its direction.

we are becoming mirror images of the far left

kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 1:18PM EDT (link)

and none of you even seem to grasp it. The rightness or wrongness of this particular flap is not the issue. It is the attempt to enforce some sort of conformity based on verbal attacks that is the problem.

In the last few years I have seen some conservatives call others bigots for wanting to secure the borders.

I have seen some very bellicose calls for war in Iran and Eastern Europe and attacks at anyone who had a different opinion.

I have seen scathing attacks at religious conservatives, and equally vituperative attacks from them.

I have seen the once fairly large group of conservative libertarians pretty much leave the party, or at least are non-participatory, due to the most antagonistic and immature attacks against them.

And yet no one seems to see a problem.

Well, here is clue for you. The Republican party is now the minority party, there are reasons for this.

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Kyle

Answers for shadowtax

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 1:24PM EDT (link)
  1. RedState didn’t endorse. Individual editors endorsed variously Thompson, Huckabee, Romney, Giuliani, and McCain, plus one worked for Brownback. Several made no endorsement at all.

  2. It’s not the who, it’s the how and why that I didn’t like, and I think was symptomatic of a shift in the viewpoint expressed at NR. NR just isn’t the NR of old if it’s of the politics of the moment, rather than trying to alter the politics of the moment.

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No problem with NR here

shadowtax (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 1:57PM EDT (link)

I am not familiar with the NR of old. ButI have read that William F Buckley cobbled together a coalition of traditionalists, libertarians, classical liberals, and anti-communists to form a magazine that became the modern conservative movement. Each member of the coalition had its own perspective.

My understanding is that they did endorse Romney, but that there were writers that disagreed.

I am dismayed by the elevation of political expediency of the moment over here at RedState. The House GOP has taken unprecedented action which demands scrutiny.

There are many ways that the House GOP could have protested their treatment by the Democrats. By pushing hard with this tactic the GOP has invited the Dems to retaliate, no doubt inappropriately. But when that happens will the people care? Smashing institutional tradition and custom is not particularly conservative. Kudos to a conservative publication for pointing it out.

Liberals have tremendous institutional support in the form of government, academia, union, etc. Conservatives have so few. National Review is one of them. It is sad to see it dismissed out of hand.

And by the way, I have been cheering the House GOP. I don’t mind the criticism. I am glad that somebody is minding the store.

Yeah, and none of them have to do with name-calling

Bill S (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 2:30PM EDT (link)

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

RedState? elevating expediency of the moment?

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 3:02PM EDT (link)

Ahem

:clearing throat:

Say what?

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We are NOT the mirror image of the left

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 3:54PM EDT (link)

Proportionality is called for in such an assessment. There are seeds of human weakness in any group of human beings, and we do need to be vigilent about those weaknesses.

I don’t have a problem with the word “stunt” although I sharply disagree with the tone of the NR article.

Any sign of life by the GOP on a conservative issue is welcomed. By all means, I hope they pull a “stunt” each week from now until November.

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if they actually tried to have a vote and pass

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 3:56PM EDT (link)

legislation, I would 100% agree with you.

Having a sit in the “People’s House” is hardly an act of lawless given the context.

Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf

Retaliate? Do you remember 1994?

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 4:03PM EDT (link)

The dems have already done things like host “shadow committes” when they lost control of Congress. I.e. they actually tried to have witnesses appear, etc. clear examples of behavior outside the law attempting to cloak itself in the power of law.

What the Republicans did was use the house floor as a room to have speeches and sing patriotic songs.

Members have access to the chamber even when Congress is out of session. They made efficient use of space and met on the floor of the House.

How is that non-conservative?

Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf

that's where I am

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 4:53PM EDT (link)

big to semi-big fan of a number of their writers.

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NR

itrytobenice (Diary) Tuesday, August 26th at 6:56PM EDT (link)

Content in the minority. Newt Gingrich needs to go over there and ring their bells.

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