Let’s get this out here right now. On experience: Sarah Palin runs the largest state in the nation and Barack Obama and Joe Biden combined run their mouths. That’s it in a nutshell.
Here we have a mother who is a governor. Throughout her career, Sarah Palin has broken up the good old boy networks. They hate her because she has opened the doors and turned on the lights in the smoke filled back rooms. So what does Barack Obama do? He releases this quote:
“Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.”
He cannot bring himself to acknowledge that she is the sitting governor of the largest state. And like Joe Biden and John McCain, she has a son at war. She has skin in the game Barack Obama does not have.
Oh, and she’s a whole lot closer to Russia than Barack Obama ever has been.
Jill Hazelbaker has broken it down succinctly:
It is pretty audacious for the Obama campaign to say that Governor Palin is not qualified to be Vice President. She has a record of accomplishment that Senator Obama simply cannot match. Governor Palin has spent her time in office shaking up government in Alaska and actually achieving results — whether it’s taking on corruption, passing ethics reform or stopping wasteful spending and the ‘bridge to nowhere.’ Senator Obama has spent his time in office running for President.
Barack Obama is bitter. Look at this guy. He had the chance to prove he was serious about his rhetoric. But apparently it was all just words. He picked a guy who has been in Washington longer than John McCain. That’s not change we can believe in.
Sarah Palin is change we can believe in.
And again, Sarah Palin runs the largest state. Barack Obama runs his mouth.

only geographically
Streiff Friday, August 29th at 12:40PM EDT (link)Given his history, policy, and associates, Obama might as well be a resident of the former Soviet Union.
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
Exactly
Kaz Friday, August 29th at 12:41PM EDT (link)John McCain commanded the largest squadron in the Navy and Sarah Polin is the governor of our oil-richest state. Between them, Obama and Biden have never run so much as a lemonade stand, and now want to run the most powerful nation on Earth. Only on MSNBC are they qualified to do that.
Heartbeat from Prez?
NovaLaw Friday, August 29th at 12:41PM EDT (link)Freudian slip by the Great One? I hadn’t realized that McCain had already won the election. I guess he’s conceding.
Not a bad pick
Haley37 Friday, August 29th at 12:47PM EDT (link)Actually it’s a brilliant pick and will likely attract even more Hillary Democrats.
I’ve got to give McCain credit, even though it won’t change my vote.
Question for you, Erick: Where does Pallin stand on illegal immigration? Is she pro-enforcement or pro-amnesty?
Hopefully (after McCain wins) she will provide a rational counter-balance to his pro-amnesty position.
Wow...
Zigguratv Friday, August 29th at 12:53PM EDT (link)Barack Obama said the stupidest thing he could possibly say.
When people measure up her experience and it comes out to be equivalent or greater than his, what exactly will his retort be?
A different take
SteveLA Friday, August 29th at 12:54PM EDT (link)I have professional contact with folks from “Inside the Beltway”, mostly on the appointed/civil service front. This contact leads me to a different point of view.
I like the fact that Palin is not a Washington insider, and probably has spent almost no time inside the beltway. It’s a virtue in my view of a politician to not be corrupted by being told you’re special and your fecal matter has no odor.
Governor Palin is someone who is not one of the annotated insiders, that’s a good thing.
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Not a bad pick
Haley37 Friday, August 29th at 12:56PM EDT (link)I’ve got to give McCain credit. Palin is a good choice for a host of reasons, not the least being that she will attract more Hillary Democrats.
Sharp move, McCain camp. It won’t change my vote, but I’m still impressed.
Question for you, Erick - What is Palin’s position on illegal immigration?
Hopefully (after McCain wins) she will be a voice of pro-enforcement to counter McCain’s pro-amnesty stand.
What a great, great spot NovaLaw
Jack_Savage Friday, August 29th at 12:57PM EDT (link)I admit that I missed this, and glad that you didn’t.
How excellent.
They are actually falling into the trap!
tankertodd Friday, August 29th at 1:00PM EDT (link)I was convinced that Democrats would not bring up her alleged lack of experience for fear of hypocrisy. Of course, Liberalism is built on hypocrisy and I am wrong again.
So somehow having an inexperienced VP a heartbeat from the presidency is WORSE than having an even more inexperienced PRESIDENT no heartbeats from the presidency? I don’t get it.
Oh, and Sarah Palin is the Commander in Chief of Alaska, the only state that borders an enemy nation - Russia. What state does Obama’s state border? Say it with me, “Stripes” fans: Wisconsin. (”Hey I got my a$$ kicked in Wisconsin!”)
Obama, you’re about to get it kicked again. By a girl.
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Palin
blh1976 Friday, August 29th at 1:01PM EDT (link)Chris Matthews no longer has a tingly feeling up his leg; he now has a warm stream dripping out.
Through all of the muddle the Dems are spewing, one thing’s clear. Their real reaction is this “OH CRAP!!!”
ROFL! blh1976 n/t
Vegas_Rick Friday, August 29th at 1:04PM EDT (link)n/t
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Democrats in IL and DC are in a panic...
DemocratBill Friday, August 29th at 1:04PM EDT (link)From CNN:
[CNN]
*Update: Rep. Rahm Emanuel, the 4th ranking House Democrat, said in a statement the choice of Palin “shows political panic.”
“Is this really who the Republican Party wants to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency? Given Sarah Palin’s lack of experience on every front and on nearly every issue, this Vice Presidential pick doesn’t show judgment: it shows political panic,” he said.*
– Are you kidding me!?!?! Barry has no experience, Biden is known to not even balancing his own check book, and 18 Million votes FOR experience and judgement in the Dem party was marginalized for “the one.”
Give me a break.
Use that Nasty Quote from Big Brobama
Strelnikov Friday, August 29th at 1:05PM EDT (link)against him! Take Palin’s accomplishment in an ad and then compare them to Big Brobama’s:
Mayor of a town of 9,000 vs. Street Organizer for Unrepentant Terrorist
Governor of Alaska, largest state in the union with a great record in stopping corruption vs. Senator from Illinois with no legislation to his name and all kinds of absenteeism
Office for Republican AgitProp: get busy!
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Wisconsin residents have a term for people from Illinois
David Hinz Friday, August 29th at 1:09PM EDT (link)They call them ####FIBs####
I’ll allow you to figure out the acronym.
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Mrs. Smith?
Marcus_Traianus Friday, August 29th at 1:10PM EDT (link)Oh, it’s a metaphor. Now I get it.
Yeah, but if you subtract time spent on the train to Delaware it’s pretty even.
Oh, and I know people from Pennsylvania that didn’t even know Biden was from there. What’s that angle all about?
I can’t wait to see “Sarah the Barracuda v. Mr. Mendacious”
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$peciallist Friday, August 29th at 1:13PM EDT (link)naughty boys..”
Please, please, please make this about experience
Rusty_S Friday, August 29th at 1:14PM EDT (link)That’s exactly right, but it’s even worse than that for Obama. Because it highlights how much even farther short Obama’s experience falls of McCain’s.
Obama will be a fool to make this election about experience, and I expect he will stop shortly.
A brilliant move in a lot of respects. The natural areas to attack Palin on are the same areas where Obama is weak. So, any attacks on Palin focus the conversation on areas where Obama is weak.
And in the end, this is McCain vs. Obama.
We’ll see how smart this looks in November, but it’s the smartest thing McCain could have done on August 29, 2008. If it only halts the post-convention bounce, it’s worth its weight in gold.
Palin was actually wokring for reform...
CSUFBomb Friday, August 29th at 1:14PM EDT (link)…while Barry was voting “present” and polishing his Britney-ness. But what’s really making Barry sweat today is that Palin gave a remarkable “uh-free” speech . . . sans teleprompter.
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Largest state?
txaggies911 Friday, August 29th at 1:18PM EDT (link)Now THAT is a creative way to spin things. And clearly the fact that its total population if it were a city would rank out of the top 250…that doesn’t come into play? Makes you sound like a cheesy spin doctor when you refer to her as governor of the largest state…
Well, now that
Tanggor Friday, August 29th at 1:19PM EDT (link)I’ve caught my breath (although the smile remains plastered on my face), I’m thinking what we need to do is relax. The choice has been made, and many of us are happy with it.
Let’s let the Dims have a couple days to agitate, vent and fume.
On camera. On tape. On the record.
Then, we will take all this material and lob it back at them, compared and contrasted with a butt-load of real facts and figures (unlike “KnownFacts”).
Let’s give them time to insert their feet and their tingly legs all the way down their throats.
We hates them, Precious.
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MSNBC and Low Qualifications
bobbydmarriott Friday, August 29th at 1:23PM EDT (link)That is because only on MSNBC do you have “journalists” that have as little qualifications to be journalists or anchors as Obama has to be president.
Olberman - Ousted Sportscaster… Couldn’t even hack it to talk about sports, and is now a political hack at best.
Matthews - Ousted political speech writer for Carter turned political hack.
Did any of you hear their comments about how specific and moving Obama’s speech was. Even the AP and Reuters reported that the speech introduced very little that was new, and avoided specifics. Did they see the same speech, or were they just reading from Obama’s speaking points.
only geographically
deltar Friday, August 29th at 1:23PM EDT (link)Alaska is large if you are talking square miles, but not so big if you’re talking people, or voters.
The comments here in this thread are really ironic. Most RedStaters have beat the crap out of Obama for having so little relevant experience; and conservatives usually put a lot of stock in the idea of being tested and ready. McCain made a very intriguing pick with Palin, but she certainly doesn’t meet the normal minimum Republican requirements for VP nominee. Don’t measure her against Obama or Biden; we should be aiming a lot higher than that.
National experience? None. International experience? None.
Military experience? None.
Experience in Federal government? None.
I can’t figure this pick out. There are better Governors, Senators, Reps, Generals, and business experts available. Even if McCain only wanted a token woman there are several woman better prepared for this job.
Facts are Facts
Maggie_in_Indiana Friday, August 29th at 1:24PM EDT (link)It is the largest state.
Maggie in Indiana
umm... no.
liberty_in_nj Friday, August 29th at 1:26PM EDT (link)Except that every Hillary supporter is pro-choice and anti-gun.
Former Mayor??!!
PAIndependent Friday, August 29th at 1:27PM EDT (link)Former Mayor???!!!
Should McCain have thusly responded to Obama’s nomination…“Today, the democratic party put a former community organizer with zero foreign policy experience in nomination for the presidency.”???
Obama’s hyperbolic, non-stop condescension to women will be his downfall. Can we apply this site’s creedo to him: “be respectful, or be banned?” I wish.
I applaud McCain’s respectful recognition of the historic significance of Obama’s nomination and his bold choice of Governor Palin as a running mate.
LMAO
dpedpe Friday, August 29th at 1:28PM EDT (link)Wow - the unadulterated denial on this site is amazing.
Look at the facts. McSame has been hitting Obama on his inexperience (and it has been working) and then turns around and puts someone who 20 months ago was the mayor of a 6500 person town.
Nice strategy - take that issue right off the table now.
Obama by 10 points in November.
I don't know that she has a position
Raven Friday, August 29th at 1:29PM EDT (link)Alaska isn’t really known for having a lot of immigrants, either legal or illegal. I find it quite comfortable, but most find it quite inhospitable country (climate-wise).
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Swamp_Yankee Friday, August 29th at 1:30PM EDT (link)Executive Experience
Palin = 2 years
Obama = 0 years
Biden = 0 years
Not Dead Yet!
Already an ethics cloud
Tr4p Friday, August 29th at 1:31PM EDT (link)Why pick someone who is already under an active ethics investigation? Sometimes I think McCain doesn’t want to win in November!
Only problem with your statement
Raven Friday, August 29th at 1:31PM EDT (link)What’s the first thing a Hillary supporter says is their reason for supporting Hillary?
ans: She’s a woman.
So is Palin. And Palin looks better and has a better resume and isn’t such a vehement b[edited].
“Unlike cruel liberty that requires you to stand and take responsibility for your choices, kind tyranny requires only that you kneel and surrender your choices.”
"Palin's age, inexperience rival Obama's"
Joshua Persons Friday, August 29th at 1:35PM EDT (link)The Palin selection is finally forcing the AP to start talking about Obama’s experience, as evidenced by this article title . I’d chalk it up as a PR win for the Republicans.
Oh, and Tina Fey — Lorne Michaels is on line one.
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Amazing, Palin has more executive experience
Brian Hibbert Friday, August 29th at 1:36PM EDT (link)than both of your picks combined.
Think about it.
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Media Bias
Mcon Friday, August 29th at 1:39PM EDT (link)A media hit piece I mean impartial analysis of Palin as VP. The media is a total joke these days.
On a side note my last comment didn’t post. I tried to do the strike through tags… Erik?
Hillary supporters
conniet Friday, August 29th at 1:40PM EDT (link)Largest state? You mean geographically? What in the heck does that have to do with anything? I feel there is NO WAY Hillary supporters will support this woman, with so little experience, and who has been an outspoken creationist and is vehemently anti-abortion. Even if they didn’t agree with her views on social issues, she doesn’t have ANY of the experience and GRAVITAS that would make up for the things she lacks. Why didn’t he pick someone like Carly Fiorino if he didn’t want someone who was viewed as a political insider? At least she ran a major corporation. This woman brings NOTHING to the table, and the Hillaryites won’t support her just because of her gender. Kay Bailey Hutchison must be FURIOUS.
Alaska is the biggest state . . .
Magrooder Friday, August 29th at 1:41PM EDT (link)Well, yes. In acreage. It is 47th in population, with more people than only North Dakota, Vermont and Wyoming. You cannot seriously contend that having been Governor of Alaska for about 18 months, a state in which the government need make very few choices because oil royalties make taxing largely irrelevant and with most of its acreage owned by the federal government and/or Native Americans, qualifies her to be VP.
Look. She seems like a fine person. Her speech seemed authentic, she deserves admiration for making the choice to deliver a Down’s child, and she has shown willingness to fight corruption, but she has no business on a national ticket.
Definitions of "experience"
dpedpe Friday, August 29th at 1:42PM EDT (link)Executive Experience
Palin = 2 years Obama = 0 years Biden = 0 years
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If Biden=0, then McCain=0. They’ve been in the senate for roughly the same amount of time. I’m not getting this argument. Fill me in.
Unadulterated denial, Troll?
stang Friday, August 29th at 1:42PM EDT (link)20 months ago? I guess the fact that she’s been the sitting Governor of the state of Alaska escaped your notice, huh? So who is it that’s in denial. Your purposeful ignorance beclowns you.
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McCain - Palin
ICRJCalvin Friday, August 29th at 1:44PM EDT (link)This is a ticket conservatives can support. . . .
Let's see, Palin Benefits
Raven Friday, August 29th at 1:46PM EDT (link)Executive Experience. She Is a governor, she Was a mayor. She IS a commander in Chief already.
Let’s keep in mind that Alaska is the only state with its own and completely separate military: The Alaskan Territorial Army. Not National Guard (they have that, too), Territorial Army. She has the ability to decide to unilaterally invade or bomb someone already. I think we can trust her with our US Military.
Energy: She’s our most vocal and best spokesperson on drilling. She is aware of what drilling does and will do to the environment and how to mitigate the effects while still drilling.
Global Warming/Climate Change/whatever:
Alaska’s government has had to fight environmentalists for everything they have ever done, everything they do every year, and everything they Want to do. To make it in Alaska’s politics, you either have to know how to handle those crazies or join them. She’s not on their side.
Abortion: Already been said. Hardcore Pro-Life. Good for the base.
Foreign Affairs:
No “foreign policy experience”? You’re kidding, right?
She fights with Canada, China, Russia and Japan over fishing. She fights with Canada and Russia over drilling. She fights with everyone over mining. She fights with Canada, China and Japan over freight traffic.
I think she has more foreign policy bona fides than anyone else on either ticket.
Economy:
As Achance has spelled out in several posts, Alaska’s economy depends on the state government doing the right thing. Too much action and they foul it up. Too little and they foul it up. It is a relatively small, though powerful, and highly dynamic economy. You learn REAL quick when you’ve messed up or done something right.
Tourism, oil drilling, mining, and fishing are the major sectors of Alaska’s economy. They respond very quickly to whatever the government does. If she can balance those, she can balance our economy.
Taxes:
Alaska has no income tax and has a profitable budget (even without federal dollars). I think she’ll be in favour of cutting taxes.
And finally, by choosing her, McCain has reminded Alaska that the Lower 48 remember that Alaska IS a part of the Union. Something Alaskans have been wondering about for awhile.
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McCain was a military officer.
Brian Hibbert Friday, August 29th at 1:49PM EDT (link)That’s ALSO a whole lot more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined. But I’m glad you agree that you’re guys have none.
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Wow a live one
SteveLA Friday, August 29th at 1:51PM EDT (link)A real live concern troll, well sort of kind of, but not done well.
You’d think the KOS kids would have a kamp to send them to before entering battle.
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Zigguratv Friday, August 29th at 1:53PM EDT (link)That counts toward executive experience.
yeah, but Biden was in the Senate when McCain was in Hanoi
Streiff Friday, August 29th at 1:54PM EDT (link)that counts as super duper experience
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
Alaskan Territorial Army?
Joshua Persons Friday, August 29th at 2:03PM EDT (link)What are you talking about?! As far as I can tell, there’s no such thing.
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Obama admits defeat, declares McCain POTUS
Crowe Friday, August 29th at 2:04PM EDT (link)Note the implication of that quote:
“John McCain put [Sarah Palin] a heartbeat away from the presidency. [sic]”
Technically, no. McCain put her in position to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency if he is elected POTUS. She’s a heartbeat away from not much at the moment. But if Obama wants to concede the election and declare McCain the winner I’ll not stand in his way.
– the “[sic]” is for not capitalizing Presidency, which is always capitalized when referring to the President of the United States. –
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TheAdmiral Friday, August 29th at 2:10PM EDT (link)….Erick. The Obama camp has to be in complete panic mode right now. What do they do? They can’t criticize her on experience for it would further expose The One’s complete lack thereof. You can’t criticize her for being female (that should be obvious anyway…) but they further piss off the PUMAs if anything remotely sexist comes out of their mouth. And with Palin being a mother of 5…can you just imagine the convention next week? It will completely neutralize last Monday night’s Michelle-O-family-rama.
Oh…and she’s a c-o-n-s-e-r-v-a-t-i-v-e.
Absolutely brilliant pick by McCain.
Hit hard. Hit fast. Hit often.
So, the actuality of it is...
Joe_Schmo Friday, August 29th at 2:21PM EDT (link)…the bottom of the Republican ticket has more experience than the top of the Democrat ticket.
Yes, this will play well. Hopefully the Democrats will continue along the inexperience line of attack.
Palin rocks as the VP candidate! In a more generic way to look at it, her likeabilities are off the charts.
This pick is just about equal in greatness to how horribly bad the Democrat pick was.
I’m now fully onboard with the McCain nomination.
yeah but...
StandardCandle Friday, August 29th at 2:21PM EDT (link)in any terrorist organization you find trainees that just can’t make the bell curve… they end up as suicide bloggers…
“Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives. “ -James Madison
Inexperience?
ATLconservative Friday, August 29th at 2:27PM EDT (link)Why argue about Alaska and it’s size, when it’s population is fine fodder for the argument. Compare these two from 2006 population numbers:
Alaska - 670,053
Delaware - 853,476
Palin a governor over a state, Biden a Senator over HALF a state. You want to talk about length of experience? Fine. But the “low-population state” argument doesn’t hold water.
Let them talk about her lack of experience, because you can make a decent case for her having more than Obama, not too mention much more in the way of accomplishments.
OF COURSE Obama has foreign policy experience.
randy streu Friday, August 29th at 2:28PM EDT (link)Don’t you remember? He spent, like, a day and a half in Iraq? Has Mrs. Palin done that? I didn’t THINK so.
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Everyone is talking about the women vote, but
Swamp_Yankee Friday, August 29th at 2:28PM EDT (link)I think she pulls in other voters. Her effect on the Mountain states and the Upper Midwest is being overshadowed. I think she’ll do great - not because she’s a woman - but because she is one of them.
She hunts, she fishes, she’s a hockey fan, she understands land rights and property rights. She’s a suburban mom. She has that outsiders accent. She is so much closer to that demographic than Obama or Biden - both of whom are essentially eastern and urban.
Obama was already beginning to shrink his playing field. I think send Palin to places like Montana and the Dakotas seals the deal for McCain and she should help in places where she can use her small town hockey and fishing fan image in places like Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin.
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yeah...
StandardCandle Friday, August 29th at 2:45PM EDT (link)Talk about knee jerk reaction from the Obama camp…
Let’s see… fruedian slip. Check. hypocrisy. Check. condescention. Check. nothing better to attack her with than experience…really an admission of “PORKCHOP SANDWICHES!! WHAT DO WE HAVE ON HER! QUICK SOMEONE COME UP WITH SOMETHING I GO ON IN 10!”… Check.
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Alaskan Territorial Guard
RJD Friday, August 29th at 4:41PM EDT (link)Formed during World War II to defend against the Japanese, it was disbanded in 1947.
Couldn’t find any references about anything similar existing today.
This is the best headline of the day.
Jack_Serious Friday, August 29th at 5:46PM EDT (link)I think she’s a great choice.
I’m looking forward to Mrs. Smith going after waste and corruption in Washington the way she has in the Alaskan Energy biz and state government.
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