The MSM deserves so much worse, but we can only work with what we have.

I would never be one to pooh-pooh any action that makes the media look as stupid as they are but I don’t think it would be a good idea to do this.
1. it would play into the media’s desire to discourage voters in other states.
2. it would add to the perception of a “stolen” election if McCain wins.

Let them inflate the numbers for obama themselves (like we know they will). I’m sure they’ll do a good job of that. better to tell them the truth or at least just ignore them.

Then just don’t talk to them at all. You’ll still help to distort their numbers.

Funny you should say this because I was hoping an exit pollster approaches me so I could do that exact thing. Not that it will matter much for the Presidential race, since Washington State is pure blue. It will be fun to mess around with the Governor race, however.

I already early voted (in FL) so I can’t participate but I have been saying for months that if I was ever asked by an exit polster, I would lie like a rug. It was kinda fun four years ago watching the looks on the faces of the MSM when they couldn’t figure out why the votes weren’t matching the poles. Then of course because exit poles are ALWAYS right, a slew of made-for-cable shows pop up claiming elections were rigged/stolen. They must believe that if they make the poles reflect what they want them to be, it must be true. I love it when REAL TRUTH triumphs!

in! We are going to WIN–by the way

The media has already built up an enormous bubble of expectation with their talk of landslide victories second terms.

I gleefully await their stunned disbelief when their messiah is crucified by the voters.

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As much as I would like to see the media disgraced even further, I think it’s like cutting off our nose to spite our face.

If early poll numbers come in, and it looks like Obama has lopsided numbers, that will shut down voting for our side around the country, much like it did in 1980 when Jimmy Carter conceded the race early to Reagan. Democrats down-ticket were wiped out in many raced that still had open voting. I really don’t want to risk that just to “punk” the MSM.

Also, I do believe Republicans always do better than the polls indicate because we’re disgusted with them in general, and we tend to hang up the phone or avoid talking with them altogether. I understand this sentiment, but it’s counter-productive.

I actually believe this is what makes Republican office holders in general so timid. If you’re constantly told the public is against you, a rational politician that wants to keep his job is going to “go to the center” in order to reflect the public will. It also emboldens Democrats because they always believe the public supports their side.

My advice to conservatives is to take every opportunity to give pollsters honest information so our voices can be better represented in the MSM.

No matter what happens, the MSM has lost whatever credibility they have. Instead, we need to figure out how to best play a losing hand when it comes to dealing with a biased media.

Even though the MSM is doing poorly financially and the public is more aware of their biases, they are unfortunately the main source of information for the public at large, and will be for the coming decades. Just ridiculing and embarrassing the media may feel good, but it’s not a good long-term solution to win the hearts and souls of Americans.

and spill it all over their clipboards… force them to hit the reset half way in…

oops!

I’m assuming this is joke. If not and all you have left is a juvenile prank like this then the GOP deserves to wander in the wilderness.

A lot of Republicans switched their registrations to vot efor Hillary after McCain won the Republican nomination, remember? They can’t switch back until after the election. They’re counted in all those new registrations that have the pollster weighting the polls so heavily with the Democrat sample.

Now, there are not set numbers of how many actually switched but it’s still in play. In addition to that, ACORN has registered some 1.3 million, so they claim, which is also factored into the weighting of the samples. We know that at least 40% of those ACORN registrations are bogus, so…

When you looked at the weighting versus the percentages of Reps and Independents, Obama doesn’t really have a lead at all. Obama is not getting that many independents supporting him and there is still a huge number claiming “undecided.”

This thing isn’t over by a long shot. We just need to get the voters out there.

This will depress conservative turnout in the west .. could cost us a Senate seat or two plus the presidential election.

Find them — YES .. and tell them you voted for McCain.

Sometimes I wonder…at times there is great debate with thoughtful points from different sides.

This is not one of those times.

…who think this is a horrible idea. When we have western states that may decide the election, doing anything that might possibly cause them to give up is suicidal.

In my humble opinion, this diary should get off the front page as soon as possible.

1) It’s impractical. Exit polls are only like every 10th voter in select precincts. There aren’t enough of us to make a meaningful impact.

2) It’s dishonest and a lie. See the Ten Commandments.

3) It’s counterproductive. Win or lose there’s value in having an accurate survey of the electorate during an election. Four years ago we learned that voters do care about moral values. What will we learn this year? Gotta be honest with the pollsters to find out.

That would be great fun without giving props to the anointed one.

THIS is the best idea that the directors can come up with?!!

Uh, perhaps someone should give a little lesson in history. Oh, let’s see- FLORIDA IN 2000 ring a bell?!!

You know, the state where thousands of REPUBLICANS left the polling stations in the panhandle because EXIT POLLS said Gore won Florida an hour before polls closed?!!

Yeah, so let’s have it that the exit polls show Obama winning by 10 points in Virginia and Indiana- that will DEFINITELY make the Republicans voting three hours later in Colorado and Nevada stay in line!!

My g-d, this is the kind of strategy being developed in the conservative movement?!!

Have you lost your minds?

I’m not sure that this is a good idea tomorrow, but I was telling a friend today that I think we should start planning for this in the next election cycle.

In the last couple of presidential elections and in this one, the polls have been greatly skewed to the democrats (erroneously so, as we’ve seen in the last two presidential elections). I continually wonder how much of a self-fulfilling prophecy this becomes. It certainly becomes fodder for the leftist media to proclaim the winner in advance.

So, lets completely remove their credibility. We start telling conservatives now to answer any polling question as a liberal. We shout from the roof tops that we’re gonna do it.

Then the polls in the next election are a completely unbelievable 98% for the democrat, and everyone knows it is bunk… and completely ignores them.

The lynchpin to a possible McCain victory in this election is turnout. It is ridiculous to take an action “for kicks” with the unintended, but clearly foreseeable, result of discouraging OUR turnout. This idea should be shelved immediately. Instead of seeking out an exit pollster, seek out your neighbor and take him or her to the polls to vote for Senator McCain. That’s far more effective and would actually win an election.

On the eve of the election, the first post on this site is some silly idea to distort exit polls?

This is frightfully vapid and makes a rather unflattering presentation of conservatives.

…it is kind of dangerous and stupid, considering our situation.

McCain supporters have been depressed enough for weeks. Actually some positive news that McCain is closing the gap with momentum will give new enthusiasm to vote and bring more voters out.

McCain supporters need to feel like we are MAKING A DIFFERENCE, not going through the motions.

I agree with all those criticizing this idea. It is very disappointing to see something like this posted here the night before the election, particularly from someone I normally respect. Exit polling is going to artificially favor Obama anyway–why would we want to increase that? Like it or not, exit polls can affect turnout.
Look, deciding whether this absurd “Operation Chaos” thing is a good idea or not should be simple:
Could this help McCain/Palin win tomorrow? No.
Is there any chance it could hurt them? Yes.
So we shouldn’t do this.

What are you trying to do, give the election to Obama.

Moe — can you re-dact Erick or will you lose your zapping privledges for that.

Would be to suggest actually VOTING for Obama, to REALLY confuse people as to what you really wanted to happen . Serioulsy, was the person who came up with this idea was drunk, high, or both? My suggestion is to sober up by tomorrow, vote for Palin and McCain, and then TELL THE TRUTH to the exit pollsters. A big early lead in the exit polls could REALLY energize our voters who havent voted yet. Lets make it happen!

Someone needs to post that Mike Royko column where he said this. Then some Chicago drive time DJ’s read it o the air and it actually worked as the news people looked very stupid that night.

I love the idea if it was done correctly…The only way this could work is if it’s done by so many people that the Media would know they were being sandbagged. The key above all else is that Limbaugh, Ingraham, Hannity and other talk radio personalities make this strategy *THE * focus of their programs tomorrow. Operatives should be on all the network and cable news stations letting the press know this is being done. The idea would be to telegraph the punch and make sure the press are so scared of the possibility that they will not report their exit polls.

The other element would be that Conservatives need to know to ignore the exit polls and turn out no matter what or it could backfire in a big way!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

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Why would you suggest something this stupid? All you’re gonna do is depress turnout in the West. We need Co & NV. A lot of people are not strong enough to ignore polls.

Vote, then seek out the exit pollsters. Communicate with your friends and fellow McCain suppoters where the pollsters are at and flood them.
Heck, I would even advocate going into disgiuse and talking to the same pollster more than once.

The whole point of gleefully reporting Kerry winning in the exit polls was to suppress the Republican turnout. I can only think it was somewhat effective because it depressed the hell out of me. But then I live in California so I’m familiar with, “What’s the point!”. So seek out the polsters and loudly proclaim your support of McCain. Even though it will not be reported, your self esteem will improve.

As a police officer who spent yesterday afternoon checking his civil disturbance gear and cleaning his sidearms in preperation for Wednesday if McCain wins, I strongly ask you guys not to engage in this type of foolishness.

Here’s the thing: If McCain wins, he’s probably going to win ugly. By “winning ugly” I mean that he will lose the popular vote and squeak out an electoral college victory. I do not expect Obama supporters to appreciate the wisdom of the Founding Fathers when they created the electoral college system. I expect them to scream “Kill whitey!!” and start burning stuff.

The MSM has already done everything they can to set the stage for the Obamanuts to claim the election was stolen if The One goes down. Let’s not add to that particular conflagration through juvenile stunts.

I honestly hope you are joking, Erick, because otherwise this is the dumbest idea I have ever seen on RedState.

Okay, you want conservative Republicans to get back at the media by inflating Obama’s exit poll numbers and possibly/probably depressing GOP turnout. Not only would that go a long way in insuring an Obama win, that would be a good way to insure that the Democrats win a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.

Please tell me that you’re joking. PLEASE!

I can’t say that I’ve ever seen an exit poller in 20 years of voting (every election). Maybe I go too early in the morning to see them.

I also advise that people not do this. The MSM will use the results as the day goes on to discourage McCain/Palin supporters from voting.

A smarter trick would be to walk in a dozen or so polling places, and tell (truthfully) anyone who asks that you voted for McCain. But only vote once, in your designated precinct.

If done on a wide enough scale, this will lead to the hospitalization of every major non-Fox anchor.

If McCain wins and the exit polls show it should have went to Obama, then there will be a lot of charges of election fraud and an illegitimate win.

Accurate exit polls are one tool to help keep elections honest.

I don’t think it’s a good idea.

Why do you think Obama wants people to vote early? Why does the MSM report skewed exit polls?

To legitimize his faux poll lead!

“See! Landslide for Obama, we were right all along!”

This is a horrible idea. Most McCain supporters aren’t informed and clued in enough for misdirection.

Please edit this and make sure it is understood as a joke.

As Redstate gets national attention there cannot be this foolhardiness from the directors.

Quit wasting your time on games and call somebody.

I agree with the others, this is a horrible idea. Losing more seats in the government is not worth some prank on the media.

Exit polls that are heavily in Obama’s favor could depress turnout not only out west, but in the midwest too. If we get some exit polls in the afternoon, there may be people in Missouri, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois and Indiana that just decide not to bother voting after work. While their vote may have no impact on the Presidential race, there are a lot of close Congressional and Senate races throughout the country.

I see no positive impact from this with a lot of negative possibilities.

make a few calls tonight and tomorrow, offer a ride if one is needed. A few extra votes will realy screw the polls up for the msm and win the election.
So get out the vote and ask all your friends to help get it out. Nothing is more fun that taking THE ONE’S win away and watch his “WE ARE ENTITLED” worshipers whine.

I am going to say I wrote in Cindy Sheehan and then start speaking in tongues. I swear I will do it. I swear.

Tim Kaine (Gov VA) had set the stage (one week out from Election night) on the News circuit as he tried to convince the Nations Voters that this race is over and Virginia is going to go Blue this election.

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“We’re East coast time, so Virginia may be one of those East coast States to report early. Polls close at 7(pm EST). Within an hour or hour and a half we’ll know how Virginia is going.” (Tim Kaine - News Sunday with Chris Wallace) “[Virginia goes Obama] I just think the path to 270 for Senator McCain is almost impossible!”
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Virginia is an important State in the MSM narrative (the “Bandwagon” effect, a play on/with Voters Psychology) for Election night in that, like with the Polls, they (MSM) want to dispirit, dishearten, and suppress Voters that would be voting for McCain by putting forth the notion that the Race for the Presidency is long over ’so why would you bother to go vote?’ This site (RS) is full of Diaries/reasons why you cannot allow yourself and, potentially more importantly, “soft-voters” for McCain/Palin to fall for it and give up (drag your McCain supporting friends to the Voting Booth kicking and screaming if need be).

The MSM is quick to project/call/report when a State goes for the Democrat, Blue, but waits to call States for a Republican candidate! Easy to see every election. They rushed to call FL before the Polls were even closed in the western counties of FL to try and effect that out-come in Gore/Bush - tell me who tried to steal the vote again??

The MSM will call (really, has always called) the Blue States as quickly as possible while stalling on the Red States in the hopes of instituting the “Bandwagon effect,” suppress Republican turnout, etc… No more is this true than during the reporting of Mid-West States. Any “Swing State” (and as in this discussion, a State not generally considered a “Swing State” they can play up with greater value/weight) that goes Blue they promote, any Red they delay reports or report as “not enough data.” You will see this again this election WITHOUT FAIL/DOUBT!!!

The law should be changed, to STOP the MSM, and/or anyone else (including campaigns), from trying to shade the votes in other States by reporting “exit-polls” and “projections” or out-right guesses. This can be easily accomplished by FORBIDDING the announcement of Election Results, including any “Polls,” “Projections,” or other means, that indicates the “out-come” or “perceived out-come” of any Locality, State, or National, Race or ballot-initiative, until 3 hours after scheduled voting places have Closed.

This could be tailored to just the contiguous 48 States, could even weight it to be 3 hours east of the Mississippi States and 1 hour west of the Mississippi, and the intent would be (more or less) the same. The point is to stop campaigns, the MSM, etc… from attempting to suppress or otherwise shift/influence election out-comes.

Again, we have been seeing this in high gear to shape, rather than report, the election by the way MSM presents Polls and its General coverage (of course). One thing that is shaping up to allow the MSM to “pretend” the see what had been adequate trend in the past to call a State is by ignoring the Early Voting that is occurring. They can easily allow those DISPROPORTIONATELY CAST DEMOCRAT VOTES to be counted in early, ignore them, make the call, and later recant (if needed) if incorrect and plead EXCUSES that they were just mistaken and didn’t really know that the Early Voting was skewing the models/programs they use to compile samplings and make their determinations. There IS NO EXCUSE, as Early Voting is all over their newscasts, but they’ll conveniently not factor it on Election night - because it doesn’t suit the (most outlets) MSM agenda.

It has been shown that there CAN BE (not always a guarantee) that a “Bradley effect” occurs. Likewise, however, there can be the inverse, in that some may be planning on voting or Obama (in some aspects, in relation to being convinced by the Murtha type comments) and not willing to state such because of their demographic (IMO, much less a phenomena, but just my opinion I have no study to cite). Is this the “White Guilt effect?” or is this something different?

Beyond that, back to the relationship of the “Bandwagon effect.” Part of the supposed “Bradley effect” can possibly be explained, if proper study done, to my point that some may stay home from the polls if they’d been convinced of the out-come and convince themselves to not go out and vote. Also explains how/why so many polls fail/backfire, if you think about it.

One such explanation I have heard, makes much sense (needs more study to see if the theory is truly a plausible explanation), is that Democrats have become “more likely” to be willing to speak with the Exit Poller. More particularly, a voter that is/has a vote for the Candidate that is the MSM projected leader/winner. This explains PA in the Democratic Primary and how the Pre-election and Exit polls did not jive! This too, at least in part, may explain what had previously appeared as (been deemed) “Bradley effect,” but rather was/is another failure in the manner Polls are setup/conducted. Just like with any Computer program, (GIGO) garbage data in and you get garbage results out!

We should be doing exactly the opposite.

I think this is a terrible idea.

I think if the media starts reporting an early overwhelming lead for Obama, it might cause some less enthused McCain supporters to stay home and not wait in that long line after work.

rational reason to support such a ill-conceived idea: to disguise the effects of vote rigging………

What other upside could there be?