On Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin


Allow me to put this to bed.

Do I think Mitt Romney is behind the smears against Sarah Palin? Absolutely not.

Do I think Eric Fehrnstrom is behind the smears against Sarah Palin? Absolutely not.

I feel comfortable saying that there is no organized effort on Mitt Romney’s behalf or tacit support. I think that’s crazy talk.

Here’s what I think: I think there are some staffers on the McCain campaign who seriously screwed up the roll out of Sarah Palin, to which Governor Palin herself objected. These staffers are now out trying to finish her off thinking, as typical D.C. types do, that if they don’t do it to her, she’ll do it to them. They just never understood who Palin is or what she is about.

Likewise, I do think there are some staffers and others who expect Mitt Romney to run again in 2012, they decided McCain could not win, and decided to undermine Sarah Palin and her chances hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney. This also explains people like Kathleen Parker, who lusts the magnificent hair.

Sadly, these people are now hurting Palin, McCain, and also Romney by their desire to save their own reputations that don’t deserve to be saved.

With both groups of people, it is my personal desire to hunt them down, ruin their reputations with the fact that they are leaking, and make sure they never, ever, ever work in Republican politics again.

Let me be clear here: it is not just about Palin. It is about mercenary politicos who work for the paycheck, not the cause. They are the reason the GOP is where it is now. They had no principle and no loyal except to the paycheck. And they must be annihilated.

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Cosigned n/t

Darin_H Saturday, November 8th at 1:17PM EST (link)

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Romney, Huckabee and McCain could lay this to rest with a simple statement...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 1:24PM EST (link)

Likewise, I do think there are some staffers and others who expect Mitt Romney to run again in 2012, they decided McCain could not win, and decided to undermine Sarah Palin and her chances hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney. This also explains people like Kathleen Parker, who lusts the magnificent hair.

I am one that thinks it is Romney people who are behind this…I don’t necessarily believe he’s orchestrating it…or that he tacitly approves…I have no evidence to prove one way or another concerning his part in it beyond what I read in the Wash Times and other reports saying weeks before the election that Romnney’s people were planning this…low and behold it happened within hours of McCain’s concession speech…

That being said…I have said I’m giving Romney the benefit of the doubt…as I am John McCain…these may well be rogue staffers who are trying to ingratiate themselves to Romney in 2012 as you say…My point has been and continues to be that John McCain and Mitt Romney should find the nearest microphone and put an end to this by telling these staffers that they will never work for them in any future campaigns unless the subterfuge and vicious backbiting comes to an end…I would add that the Huckster and his former staffers could also be behind this and I call on him to do the same!

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I'll agree to most of this

Swamp_Yankee Saturday, November 8th at 1:29PM EST (link)

I’m a Massachusetts Republican. Romney governed to the right of the Massachusetts. I have supported and still like him. Right now and for 2012, I am supporting Sarah 100%.

My problem is with those who single out Romney and Romney supporters. There is an ugly part of the Republican base that harbors anti-Mormon feelings. There is also a stupid part of the Republican base that wants all Republicans to act like they like in Oklahoma.

The truth is Sarah is threatening. She is threatening to Romney. But she is also threatening to Huckabee. She is threatening to post modern feminists. She is threatening to Obama 2012. She is threatening to anyone who plans to run in 2012 or even 2016 including Bobby Jindal, Tim Pawlenty, Rudy Giuliani, Jeb Bush, etc…

You may not find a representive from those respective parties actually leaking information, but you will see a certain willingness to spread these unsubstatiated rumors. There is a defeaning silence from certain corners. They certainly are not coming to her defense.

This is not just a Romney problem. The animosity and intrigue she generates is a testament to her viability. She is the future.

 

Huckabee Needs To Step

dld1717 Saturday, November 8th at 1:31PM EST (link)

Huckabee needs to step up and help the party like he said and his tv show is really bad to watch

He needs to go back to AR and help Party and run for Senate

 

"about mercenary politicos"

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 1:31PM EST (link)

I agree totaly with the following btw

Let me be clear here: it is not just about Palin. It is about mercenary politicos who work for the paycheck, not the cause. They are the reason the GOP is where it is now. They had no principle and no loyal except to the paycheck. And they must be annihilated.

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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I put money on Huckabee before Romney

Andy Smith Saturday, November 8th at 1:31PM EST (link)

Huckabee, if he does have aspirations toward 2012, is doing this thing right. He’s laying low, hosting his own talk show so he has national exposure, and will continue to be a household name for the next four years. Romney will come out of the shadows in 2012, but Huckabee will have a huge advantage.
Sarah Palin can wipe them out. If she can keep reaching out to Barack Obama to make Alaska the energy independence leader and make headlines doing it, then Romney and Huckabee will be quite irrelevant.

“Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it.”-Abraham Lincoln

 

His show stinks

dld1717 Saturday, November 8th at 1:35PM EST (link)

I like him a lot but his tv show is really bad.

I wish he would help the party and run for US Senate

Romney MI Gov

dld1717 Saturday, November 8th at 1:36PM EST (link)

I have been wondering what if Romney ran for Gov of Michigan could he win it and don’t u think this would help him down the road?

 
 

Why does it take bloggers to

hazard Saturday, November 8th at 1:40PM EST (link)

put an end to this when it would take McCain 5 minutes to stop it? I want to hear what McCain really thinks of her. I have to assume by his silenece that he agrees with these staffers. Why else would he let this go on? Maybe Palin should switch party affiliation so McCain will feel more inclined to defend her.

I agree Swamp...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 1:41PM EST (link)

I take issue with the Anti Mormon Meme because after 2 years of being slammed with that as a reason for my dislike/distrust of Romney and his record it’s wearing extremely thin…I’ve been accused of it anytime I discuss his record of Liberal positions both in the Primaries last year as well as when he was Governor and when he ran for Senate…As well as his vicious kneecapping of every other Republican Nominee in the race last year.

That being said…I’m not just calling on Romney to make a statement on this…I’m including McCain, Huckabee, Any Republican in leadership and any potential candidate thinking about running in 2012 to repudiate these vermin and make it plain to them that if they’re ever found to have participated in this type of campaign against any Republican is finished…

I discussed what I read in the Wash Times and mentioned the appearance based on those reports but I’m not focussing all my guns just at Romney. If I haven’t been clear on that final point I apologize.

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AMEN.

moijea Saturday, November 8th at 1:42PM EST (link)

“It is about mercenary politicos who work for the paycheck, not the cause. They are the reason the GOP is where it is now. They had no principle and no loyal except to the paycheck. And they must be annihilated.”

 
 
 

next two years will tell

jeanedcrusader Saturday, November 8th at 1:43PM EST (link)

This is the story of a few staffers who ran a bad campaign and are afraid they will never get hired again, so they tried to blame their mistakes on Sarah Palin. She’s already got a pack of haters after her who will swallow these lies easily. Palin’s success, however, all hinges on how the country fares during the next two years and how ready people are to shake off the liberal illuminati come election time.

 

McCain Leno Tuesday

dld1717 Saturday, November 8th at 1:43PM EST (link)

McCain is on Leno Tuesday so I wonder if we may get our first response

And I wish he'd help the Party and

mbecker908 Saturday, November 8th at 1:47PM EST (link)

go sell shoes.

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It shouldn't take him a week to tell these jerks to knoock it off...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 1:49PM EST (link)

you can’t tell me…vacation or not…that he can’t find a reporter somewhere that will put a microphone in his face so he can say publicly that he’s is appalled at this behavior and it needs to stop…NOW!!!

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BTW...Rick Davis was on H&C last night defending Palin

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 1:52PM EST (link)

He says they are all lies and he’d like to know who was behind this!

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me thinks erick is right

Paul Seale Saturday, November 8th at 1:53PM EST (link)

I dont think it is romney, him self, either.

I think all the palin smear stuff is about people trying to position themselves in favor with the media and those who these “anonymous” sources plan to work for.

Peopl shouldnt be looking at 2012. We have to start looking at legislation which is at hand and the business of the country now, and then to 2010.

 

A modest proposal

kyle8 Saturday, November 8th at 1:55PM EST (link)

We make all candidates take a pledge, or we wont support them, “I pledge not to hire anyone who ever worked in the McCain or Bush campaigns, ever, for anything, forever.”

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

And I wish he'd help the Party and...

kyle8 Saturday, November 8th at 1:56PM EST (link)

go suck eggs.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
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Silence is Unacceptable

2BlueStar Mom Saturday, November 8th at 1:59PM EST (link)

It was bad enough he just walked away when the fuel of corruption was brought to many folks attention by the McCain campaign.

Sarah, has more Integrity in her little pinky than all three of these guys.

It would be respectable and honorable of McCain to correct this problem.

Her son is overseas fighting for this country and I am sure it would help him to justify the sacrafice his mother and family made, much less him who is in harms way.

 

Kathleen Parker...

davidingeorgia Saturday, November 8th at 2:27PM EST (link)

…unfortunately, is not the only one who works at NRO who “lusts the magnificent hair” although she’s the most unhinged about it…that site was a bit of a joke to me during the primaries…

I don’t think Romney is coordinating this either, but the longer he stays silent, the more suspicious it makes him look…I think an nifty little “anyone involved in this crap will not work for me on a compaign…ever…period” from Mitt would stop at least some of it, and make him look good in the process…

John McCain apparently isn’t too tired/busy/under a rock to go on Leno next week…I hate to believe it, but I’m growing more and more certain with each passing day that he’s just fine with what is being done to Governor Palin, and if he is, his “honor” was and is vastly overrated.

She threatens everyone

peg_c Saturday, November 8th at 2:31PM EST (link)

That is why I love her.

I’ll closely examine our young Turks. I pray never to vote for an old dog Republican again (Fred excepted and he has way too much sense and lack of interest to run.)

Furthermore, if the only blacks and women that can get elected president are liberals, I’m never voting for either. Not. Ever.

Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.

 
 

This party is disgusting

kowalski Saturday, November 8th at 2:31PM EST (link)

This episode and the fact that Erick has had to institute Operation Leper in the first few days after the campaign is one of the best reasons why we lost this election. When you see things like this, you start to believe the Republican Party is a patchwork group of single-issue mercenaries held together by a few mutual grievances and because they:

1) Don’t understand the outside world
2) Don’t understand each other

It’s disgusting and its unprincipled and we deserved to lose. The Democrats should be cramming it down our throats and gloating from the parapets. We don’t even have the dignity to lose well any more.

 

I wouldn't be at all surprised if those behind the Palin attacks...

29Victor Saturday, November 8th at 2:33PM EST (link)

just happened to be “moderate” Republicans who fear Palin’s one-two punch of conservatism and charisma.

For the past eight years we have been implementing their “kinder and gentler” strategies and accomplished nothing but losing ground.

They know that if she becomes the new face of the party we could very well enter another era of Regan Conservatism and all hope of “moderation” will be lost.

They fear her policies, the direction she would take the party, her popularity, her ability to communicate conservative principles and being proven wrong. But mostly they fear that in a truly conservative Republican Party, no one would listen to them anymore.

 

Romney and Hick both smeared Fred

ReaganConservative3 Saturday, November 8th at 2:37PM EST (link)

I was a big FredHead during the primaries, and I remember like it was yesterday both the Romney camp and the Huck camp sliming Fred (not accusing them of the Palin smears as I do not know the answer yet), and doing it in a chicken sh*t way. Erick God bless you for staying on top of this as we need to PURGE anyone and everyone behind this and take our party back before we all become irrelevant in a liberal Euro-America.

“What would Reagan do?”

I saw Davis' segment...

davidingeorgia Saturday, November 8th at 2:44PM EST (link)

…on H&C and didn’t believe a word that came out of his mouth…neither did the wife…looked the entire time like he was trying to keep from laughing about the whole thing, and no, I don’t mean laughing at how ludicrous some of the claims are, more like he was enjoying it.

Peggy Noonan is responsible for this

kowalski Saturday, November 8th at 2:46PM EST (link)

At least as responsible as anyone Erick is going to put a name to. Noonan started off enthusiastic and predicting that Palin was going to be the target of people from inside the Beltway (on the Democrat side) who were going to try to “kill her quick.”

They did, and they were very successful.

But while that was going on, Noonan switched sides on Palin and laid the groundwork for everything we’re seeing and hearing right now with this editorial in the Wall Street Journal.

[W]e have seen Mrs. Palin on the national stage for seven weeks now, and there is little sign that she has the tools, the equipment, the knowledge or the philosophical grounding one hopes for, and expects, in a holder of high office. She is a person of great ambition, but the question remains: What is the purpose of the ambition? She wants to rise, but what for? For seven weeks I’ve listened to her, trying to understand if she is Bushian or Reaganite—a spender, to speak briefly, whose political decisions seem untethered to a political philosophy, and whose foreign policy is shaped by a certain emotionalism, or a conservative whose principles are rooted in philosophy, and whose foreign policy leans more toward what might be called romantic realism, and that is speak truth, know America, be America, move diplomatically, respect public opinion, and move within an awareness and appreciation of reality.
But it’s unclear whether she is Bushian or Reaganite. She doesn’t think aloud. She just . . . says things.

Noonan went from warning about people trying to “kill her quick” to doing it herself.

the idea that the Romney name alone means something in MI, is false

JLenardDetroit Saturday, November 8th at 2:47PM EST (link)

There is no overwhelming nostalgia for the namesake. While we had control of the State with John Engler we could not get Scott Romney elected to AG under the same name recognition notion. Mitt would NOT have carried the State on a National ticket. OK, he can win the Primary here perhaps, but he cannot help turn the State Red. Sorry, just ain’t gonna happen, and too many think that is a piece of the overall “win” puzzle.

I wish he would’ve come back from Salt Lake City (saving the Olympics) and moved to MI and tried. We had no other Candidates with potential, but IMO he would not have won for Governor here then or now. I would have been very happy to have had him here to try though.

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Sarah Is A Danger

LoneApple Saturday, November 8th at 2:48PM EST (link)

A danger to the establishment and they all know it. I don’t single out Romney as a sole perpetrator of these smear but I do think he’s a smart enough politician to know that hard-knuckled politics means taking out your future opponents at the earliest opportunity.

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Amen, Erick.

Josh Painter Saturday, November 8th at 2:51PM EST (link)

But after reading the comments, I have to ask… Why is any criticism of Mitt Romney promptly written off by his supporters as being anti-Mormon? IMO, this is akin to the way any criticism of Obama is dismissed by many of his own supporters as being racist in nature.

As far as religion goes, I consider anyone who believes in the God of Abraham and tries to do His will a kindred spirit, whether they be Christian (including LDS), Jew or whatever.

Personally, I believe Gov. Romney to be an ethical man of fine character. He wasn’t my candidate, and I had someproblems with his rather sudden embrace of conservative principles, but I would have preferred him over John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee, and I would have supported him and voted for him in the general election. I’m not so sure, however, about some (some, mind you, not all) of his supporters. I guess I’ve never quite gotten over that “Phoney Fred” website and the rumors that Sen. Thompson was dropping out of the race well before he decided to do just that.

Nevertheless, this Palin-bashing all falls, not at Romney’s feet, but at McCain’s. Whatever candidate his staff people formerly worked for is not the problem. That McCain has not put a stop to the smearing of Sarah Palin by some, probably only a few of the people inside his campaign, is the problem.

McCain campaigned as someone who would always stand up for what is right and do the right thing. That he hasn’t done right by Sarah Palin is a stain on his reputation.

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Romney needs a viable Palin to win in 2012

Illinicon Saturday, November 8th at 2:53PM EST (link)

This time there were no true Reagan-type full spectrum conservatives running for the nomination. In 2012, their easily could be 4 viable Reaganities running (Jindal, Newt, Palin, Sanford). You will also have Mitt running as the candidate of the neo-libertarians (the Ficons and solib) and Huck and Pawlenty running for Social Democrats part of the base (FImods and Socons). Lets for simple math sake say the Republican Party is

60% Reaganites
20% Neo-Libertarian
20% Social Democrat

You could easily see Newt do in 2012 what he in 2008, toy with running, but come to the conclussion he cant win it all so decides not to run because he is better off doing what he doing now than being a losing Presidential candidate. Sanford could easily drop out because he wont be able to get traction with Palin and Jindal in the race. It now makes it a 5 person field (Huck, Jindal, Palin, Pawlenty, Romney). While Jindal and Palin are competing for the Reaganite vote and Huck and Pawlenty are doing the samwe with the sodem vote. That leaves the race looking like

Palin and Jindal 30%
Mitt 20%
Huck and Pawlenty 10

If Mitt can start to pick off 5% of the Reaganite vote and make a deal with solib to put Pawlenty on the ticket he can get that a good chunk of that coalition on his side as neither Huck and Pawlenty have a chance he can compete for the nomination. If Mitt has to head to head aganist a Reganite he loses, if he can against multiple Reganites he has a chance. Trashing Palin hurts Romney because her votes wont go to him, but to another Reaganite like Jindal.

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I agree with kyle!

JadedByPolitics Saturday, November 8th at 2:54PM EST (link)

nt

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does not destroy him is his own enemy

 
 

Wow...I just read the link Erick put in his post...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 2:57PM EST (link)

I had my theory on this based on McCaslin reporting the plan weeks before the election…I had no idea about these other news sources corroborating my theory…

That being said…I reiterate…Romney, McCain, Huckabee, or any other potential candidate for political office need to find a microphone, Condemn this behavior and call for an end to it whether thjey are behind it or not!

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Nice to see you have faith in the WaPo Ace

Cowboy Saturday, November 8th at 3:00PM EST (link)

Nice to see Romney still gets a fair shake here at Redstate. He says he is done.

Either way when it comes to accusing without proof let me just say that your weasel Huck was behind the robo calls in Iowa and has plenty to gain by taking Palin out. Because of age (Romney is getting too old) Palin is more of a threat to the Huckster than Romney.

I'll second that Kowalski

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 3:03PM EST (link)

nt

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You'll notice

kowalski Saturday, November 8th at 3:03PM EST (link)

Why is any criticism of Mitt Romney promptly written off by his supporters as being anti-Mormon? IMO, this is akin to the way any criticism of Obama is dismissed by many of his own supporters as being racist in nature.

You’ll notice that I’m one of his supporters (at least was during the primaries) who doesn’t do that.

And…

Nevertheless, this Palin-bashing all falls, not at Romney’s feet, but at McCain’s. Whatever candidate his staff people formerly worked for is not the problem. That McCain has not put a stop to the smearing of Sarah Palin by some, probably only a few of the people inside his campaign, is the problem.

I suspect there’s more to this than meets the eye, and a lot of it, at least circumstantially, goes back to the change of heart Peggy Noonan had about Sarah Palin in the pages of the Wall Street Journal on October 17, a little over 2 weeks before the election.

Flip-flops like this trashing the VP candidate of your own party two weeks before an election aren’t accidents, and most of the stuff that’s been fed to the media since then about Palin sound an awful lot like that editorial was used as the template.

Somewhere along the line, Noonan decided that Palin wasn’t a member of her tribe.

 
 
 
 

Overheard Conversation

Davo Saturday, November 8th at 3:03PM EST (link)

Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?

Never Give In, Never, Never, Never

the Kinder Gentler, New tone, Repectful Campaign crap

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 3:08PM EST (link)

started in 1988…it’s been twenty years of it…and we’ve lost ground through all that time!

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Here is NRO on some more of those Palin lies...

JadedByPolitics Saturday, November 8th at 3:10PM EST (link)

just amazing….I am gonna guess whomever these “anonymous” sources are they have got to be a little OLDER than the average campaign worker because THEY don’t quite get how STUPID and easy it becomes to dimantle their arguments quite easily….LEPERS indeed!

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In a Palin interview I saw this morning

TBird Saturday, November 8th at 3:10PM EST (link)

she stated she had spoken with McCain 2 hours prior, that they had discussed the attack on her, were both in agreement that it was untrue yet difficult to counter since the sources are anonymous. She went on to mildly criticize the media for allowing this to become such a huge story w/o disclosing their sources.

But, yeah, McCain definitely needs to speak out directly to the media about this in her behalf. Would go a long way towards discrediting these chikens*its who are spreading this gossip.

Think the interview was shown on FOX, but not sure - small people in my house are known to sometimes gain access to the remote and change the channel - sometimes to MSNBC - egads!

Isn't he citing Washington Times...

Addison Saturday, November 8th at 3:13PM EST (link)

…and not the Washington Post here? Huckahate blinds you!

it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

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Whatever happened

alicelouise58 Saturday, November 8th at 3:17PM EST (link)

to the Eleventh Commandment by Ronaldus Magnus? Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican?

These anonymous staffers need to get with Robert Shrum. May he’ll hire them.

 

Why is this news?

Kevin Forrester Saturday, November 8th at 3:19PM EST (link)

The well-known comment

“Victory has a thousand fathers, defeat is an orphan.”

popularized by John F. Kennedy following the Bay of Pigs fiasco, applies here.

That Fox News, or anyone else, treats as news the fact the some members of our so-called “team” are not really “team players” is very disappointing.

If our team had won, everyone would be claiming credit for Governor Palin’s contributions.

Again, why is this news?

Agree on all points...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 3:20PM EST (link)

I’m sick of the Anti Mormon Meme…I’m sick of identity politics from the Dems as are all Republicans…So why is it OK to engage in it as a Republican against other Republicans?

I also agree that McCain deserves MOT of the blame…but not all….there are far to many Republicans in leadership that are silent in this…Romney would help himself if he came out and condemned it no matter who is behind it…his silence is just as bad as McCains…as is Huckabee’s since he stands to benefit if she’s out of the way in 2012…

What about Congressional Republican Leaders….What about the weenies at the RNC who are looking bad because Sarah was able to do something that they couldn’t…which was fire up the base?

What about the Alaska political establishment who Sarah has amgered and exposed?

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OP LEPER

rick554 Saturday, November 8th at 3:24PM EST (link)

AS a proud operative of both OP CHAOS and OP LEPER, I say once we clean the DC/Beltway elites out of the Republican Party, Sarah will be someday leading the Party and I hope she runs in 2012. Until then I, and my cohorts, will keep these backstabbers and low-lifes square in our sights.
PALIN/2012

Rick554

If McCain had won

DRP Saturday, November 8th at 3:26PM EST (link)

There would have been angry self-destructing within the Obama campaign, with staffers blaming Biden the Gaffer.

It’s not news just because it’s happening to the Republicans, any more than it would be news if it was happening to the Democrats. It’s just news.

That's difinite food for thought...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 3:27PM EST (link)

but it doesn’t fit with Romney’s former campaign style of first and foremost kneecapping his opposition…

Your points are compelling however…whatever the case…he and the rest of our leadership ALL need to be out there condemning this backbiting and savaging of a fellow Republican!

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55555

nogyro35 Saturday, November 8th at 3:27PM EST (link)

Exactly, their silence is starting to look suspect. I would like to reserve judgement till I have heard from them, but we have not…

…so either….

  1. they are trying to find out who said what before they speak out,

  2. they are ignorant of what this is doing,

  3. they don’t care, or

  4. they are trying to allow maximum damage to Palin before they have to open their mouths.

If we can't find a way to turn Michigan Red...

tankertodd Saturday, November 8th at 3:28PM EST (link)

Then we have much bigger problems than Palin vs. Huckabee vs. Romney.
Really. We can’t win on a Red State only strategy. Red States don’t stay red forever. (See: Florida and North Carolina.)

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Who had the most to gain?

redalert Saturday, November 8th at 3:31PM EST (link)

We’ll probably never find out who leaked this story,but I doubt that it was Mitt Romney. So the question then becomes,who had the most to gain by this leak? Let’s see,the story makes Palin look like a dummy who doesn’t know anything about geography. It immediately casts suspicion on Romney, making him look like a sleaze ball. And it tarnishes the reputation of John McCain since the anonymous sources are supposed to be his aides. With one simple stroke the three leading Republicans are tarnished. Who would do such a thing? Who would love to destroy these three so they are not serious contenders in 2012? I’ll give you a hint. His initials are BHO. I expect more of these leaks in the months to come.

Just because McCain SAYS he's concerned about it

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 3:31PM EST (link)

to Sarah…it doesn’t mean he really is…We’ve been calling for three days on him to come out and Condemn it…I’ve emailed him and encouraged others to as well

So where is he?

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Yep.

29Victor Saturday, November 8th at 3:33PM EST (link)

I pick door #4.

Excellent correction.

29Victor Saturday, November 8th at 3:34PM EST (link)

I amend my previous comment.

I'm with you rick554

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 3:34PM EST (link)

nt

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That Would Include Karl Rove

IJB Saturday, November 8th at 3:34PM EST (link)

And I think that would be a mistake. Whatever you think of Rove’s potential policy views, his political analysis is up near the top of the list.

Bush also had some other decent people working his political side over the years.

McCain’s campaign, OTOH, especially his spokespeople, were uniformly awful, and I wouldn’t let them near anything having to do with anything of importance to the GOP after this.

(Whatever else you want to say about Dole ‘96, his people were nowhere near as awful as the McCain ‘08 team was.)

I amend my previous amendment.

29Victor Saturday, November 8th at 3:37PM EST (link)

To exclude Newt the Magnificent and all of those who followed his lead.

Not at all Addy

Cowboy Saturday, November 8th at 3:38PM EST (link)

I don’t HATE anyone. Like mbecker, I would just like to see him selling shoes.

perhaps, but....

jazzycmk Saturday, November 8th at 3:44PM EST (link)

….if McCain had won we’d be hearing stories of voter suppression and intimidation across the country (since that’s the only possible way McCain could have won, of course).

We’d also be hearing story after story about the latent racism that still must be permeating the US (since that’s the only reason one wouldn’t vote for The One, of course).

Honestly, I don’t remember hearing about a whole lot of finger pointing in Kerry’s camp after they lost in 2004. Kerry to this day still blames the Swift Boat Veterans (something that never ceases to crack me up since left-leaning 527s outnumber and outspend right-leaners by something like 3:1). I know Edwards disagreed with Kerry about conceding too quickly (apparently the lawyer in Edwards wanted to contest Ohio). There was some talk about Kerry not being the most effective candidate, but that was more idle speculation than anything. I don’t remember the vicious infighting that we’re seeing here. To their strategic credit, the Dems regrouped quickly in 2004. GOP could learn something there.

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Here's my take on your list...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 3:45PM EST (link)
  1. they are trying to find out who said what before they speak out,

They don’t need to know who it is tbefore they make a simple statement that they condemn it and they wouldn’t put anyone on their staff who engaged in it whether it be in a primaty campaign or as the nominee

  1. they are ignorant of what this is doing,

They’ve heard the furor continue for three days about this and I have emailed McCain and Romney…I posted the contact info here and at TMR and asked others to do the same. They know what’s going on!

  1. they don’t care, or\

This is more possible…this is why I sent the emails I did and encouraged others to do so so they know how they behave now will have bearing on their future runs for office.

  1. they are trying to allow maximum damage to Palin before they have to open their mouths.

I contend this is a factor for those who are looking at the prospect of facing Saracuda across their debate podium in 2012!

Again…none of this matters…if any of them had any integrity…they’d be out making statements condemning it!

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Georgetown Social Club

clintonformccain Saturday, November 8th at 3:50PM EST (link)

Somewhere along the line, Noonan decided that Palin wasn’t a member of her tribe.

The “tribe” is the Georgetown cocktail party set. It doesn’t matter if it’s Noonan or Brooks or Hume or Browkaw or Stephanopolis. Political party is secondary to the importance of preserving their rights as card-carrying members of the Georgetown Social Club to elect our Presidents. The media and its sychophants are the most corrosive force in American politics.

I would also point out that that it is no coincidence that the two political figures most savagely beaten by the media are strong women. And, that the attacks all has sexist undertones: cackling, the claws come out, periodically, shopping “sprees”, wearing a towel to answer the door, and IMO the most disgusting attack I’ve ever seen — the attack on Governor Palin for carrying her baby to full term.

The idiots selling Palin out are just currying favor to insure continued invites to proper Georgetown cocktail parties and, as a corallary to that, status as beltway pundits.

 

Some of you have been sidetracked.

Mark Kilmer Saturday, November 8th at 3:51PM EST (link)

This is not about John McCain and what he explains. This is not about Mitt Romney and what Rombots might or might not have been involved external to the McCain campaign. Likewise with Mike Huckabee and anyone else.

This is McCain staffers who sabotaged his campaign by pushing slander about Sarah Palin. I consider this to be an almost unforgivable preach of trust, as anyone on a Republican campaign must be committed to that campaign and to the things which help that campaign and the party. If you attempt to sabotage Governor Palin, you attempt to sabotage the party and are useless to the party. If the GOP is to regain electoral statue, the offenders must never again be associated with the Republican Party.

Let them write books. I’m sure there is a big contract out there for the embellished details of the offending stunt. The offender could be an instant hero to the nutroots. And why not? It’s all about the glory and the money, obviously.

First off...I didn't say anything about the WaPo

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 3:53PM EST (link)

I said Washington Times…

Second off Huck is not my boy…I supported him during the primaries of the least of bad of field of bad choices in my opinion at the time!

At this point, I wouldn’t vote for Huckabee for dog catcher…

As for Romney saying he’s done? if you believe that…can I interest you in a a prime piece of Real Estate with beautiful ocean front views just north of Dallas?

Finally, I’m not just calling on Romnmey to publicly condemn these vermin…I’m calling on McCain, Romney…and yes Huckabee…at this point I’d like to see the whole Republican Leadership in Washington publicly condemning these fools!

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nogyro35 Saturday, November 8th at 3:55PM EST (link)

Romney has the most to loose here. McCain will be the Senator from Arizona for as long as he wants to/is able to.

McCain will appear on Leno

finaljeopardy Saturday, November 8th at 4:00PM EST (link)

Here is an item from the LA Times blog:

*Good luck with that. Anyone who saw McCain and Palin work together, saw as the partisan crowds chanted her name during his speech.

Back home in her Anchorage governor’s office, Palin defends herself, as The Times’ Seema Mehta and Maeve Reston describe in an article this morning.

This issue isn’t going away immediately. Love her or leave….

…her, win or lose, the media knows there’s a voracious public hunger for almost anything about the Alaska hockey mom still. Especially in the complete absence of any other viable Republican Party leaders.*

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/11/sarah-palin-1.html

So far, the only party leadership to come out and condemn this is the state chair of the South Carolina Republican Party, Katon Dawson. McCain will hopefully put this nonsense to rest on Tuesday night.

Why wait till tuesday...unless he wants to see her damaged?!

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 4:05PM EST (link)

nt

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Why wait till tuesday...unless he wants to see her damaged?!

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 4:06PM EST (link)

nt

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Great idea

finaljeopardy Saturday, November 8th at 4:07PM EST (link)

Huckabee would flourish in the Senate, the only place for the “bipartisan cooperation” that distinguished his terms as Governor of Arkansas. SCHIP, amnesty, smoking bans…

You have a point

finaljeopardy Saturday, November 8th at 4:08PM EST (link)

Michigan might go for Romney

finaljeopardy Saturday, November 8th at 4:16PM EST (link)

He is seen as being bipartisan. He has both national name recognition and a favorite son advantage, even if those alone wouldn’t win it for him.

The auto industry is hurting there, and the Dems are about to bail it out. The previous governor managed their economy horribly. I think that and the corruption of so many of the Democrats there would make Mitt Romney a shoe-in.

notta chance

David Hinz Saturday, November 8th at 4:25PM EST (link)

at this point in time, considering what a total mess Gov Granholm has made of this state — and the GOP still lost big — Karl Marx would score a political victory over Romney.

The state flag and the state motto are both being replaced with a “For Sale” sign.

No joke

finaljeopardy Saturday, November 8th at 4:37PM EST (link)

That’s pretty much what happened to this whole country. In my home state of WV, the signs driving in on 55 were changed from “Wild and Wonderful” to “Open For Business.” I’m being perfectly serious.

This quote tips her hand

finaljeopardy Saturday, November 8th at 4:45PM EST (link)

But we have seen Mrs. Palin on the national stage for seven weeks now, and there is little sign that she has the tools, the equipment, the knowledge or the philosophical grounding one hopes for, and expects, in a holder of high office. She is a person of great ambition, but the question remains: What is the purpose of the ambition?

Of the four candidates in the race this year, which of them seemed most ambitious? It wasn’t Sarah Palin, but they loved to paint her that way, calling her a diva, a tart, a dictator, accusing her of “going rogue.”

This woman in her political journey from PTA mother to governor has an astounding body count. An ambitious person doesn’t quit a high-paying job because of ethics complaints. A career politician doesn’t get their journalism degree from a state college after trying six others. Sarah Palin is a real and courageous person. If Peggy Noonan can’t see that, she is in the wrong business. She should at least quit writing opinion pieces.

Of course

finaljeopardy Saturday, November 8th at 4:52PM EST (link)

It should not have taken at least 48 hours to get responses from “senior McCain staff” according to Carl Cameron. Reporting news from an anonymous source is bad enough. It would have been “fair and balanced” to try contacting other senior staff for comment.

When these McCain people all eventually came forward, it still seemed like CYA. It is shameful that McCain never leaped to the defense of his VP as quickly as he did for his opponent in the election.

It does seem like BHO’s Nixonian handiwork, but that does not excuse the ineptness of Republican leadership in damage control.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

REALITY CHECK

UKman Saturday, November 8th at 4:55PM EST (link)

You still don’t get it, do you?Let me give you a little history lesson of what happened to your sister party in the UK. 1997 Blair came along & did to the Tory party what Obama did to the G.O.P, & the rump that was left whimpered that the ‘TRUE’ cause had been deserted. ‘We need to get back to true conservative principles’ was the cry, & learched to the right. Guess what, 4 years later they lost. This same rump (didn’t gain a single new seat in parliament), foaming at the mouth, stated they didn’t articulate these conservative principles clearly enough, & so they pushed the parties platform even further to the right…& low & behold they lost again! Still, you know best?????

New York dem here

jaxxon Saturday, November 8th at 5:01PM EST (link)

I liked most of the Republican candidates this year, with the exception of my former Mayor. I’m a social liberal, but fiscal conservative, so I can live with Republicans. While I have the greatest respect for McCain, I truly liked Huckabee. I was hopeful he’d win the nomination. I hope decides to run in 2012.

While I am not a fan of Palin, as a woman, I’m appalled at the hit job some McCain aides and the media are doing. I think she’s extremely ambitious, and in politics you definitely need it. However the fact remains she was not ready. With her ambitions exposed she’ll be lethal in 2012 and my fellow Dems need to be careful. She’s learning a very valuable political lesson now which she will never forget. She’ll return to the scene on the crime with a vengeance and will leave a lot of bodies in her wake.

On a political level she makes me cringe, but I truly hope she finds out who’s been spreading this viciousness about her and takes them to task. By the way, love the petition!

And the Tories did not get back to

Mark Kilmer Saturday, November 8th at 5:05PM EST (link)

conservative principle. Talking the talk is fine, and we’ve had a lot of that here in the States, but the Republicans, like the Tories, have to walk the walk to regain their greatness.

But, really, that’s where the similarity ends. The electorate in the UK is not like the voters in the USA. Here, we enjoy individual freedoms, free markets, a strong defense, and personal firearms. Britain belongs to the EU. Your country is in the process of being trampled under foot, and that’s fine if you like it that way. None of that here, though. We’re a center-right country. (Even one of our fringe lefty States, California, recently voted to define marriage in a traditional manner.

And the American left is nowhere nearly as hardcore statist as their European counterparts.

Please tell me

Jack_Savage Saturday, November 8th at 5:12PM EST (link)

How was she less ready than Barack Obama?

Strong enough for a man

finaljeopardy Saturday, November 8th at 5:15PM EST (link)

Hey, you do a really good Peggy Noonan. If the Dems are already trying to pick our 2012 candidates and kneecap the frontrunner, it’s looking good. Btw, I love it when moby’s take sexist shots at women, then say, “but I say this, because I’m one.”

I see where you're going

jaxxon Saturday, November 8th at 5:56PM EST (link)

I respect your thoughts and opinions about Barack Obama and his readiness. But I guess I’m looking at it from a different perspective.

She didn’t know what she was getting into. I think that’s more or less what I mean. She was not playing by the “rules” laid out by the campaign and rebelled. While I feel the McCain campaign did her an incredible disservice, there is still a measure of obedience that all VP’s must follow. She went “rogue” and was off message a lot and had to constantly be corrected by campaign advisors. I could imagine how she felt, but when you’re the VP candidate, regardless of your convictions, when you sign on you’re at the mercy of you “employer”. I voted for the top of the ticket, so Palin wasn’t a deciding factor for me.

Again, I’m looking forward to seeing her return in 2012. It’s not because I’ll vote for her, but I know she can do a better job at expressing herself because it will be her campaign.

Be RID of Romney

Warner Todd Huston Saturday, November 8th at 6:00PM EST (link)

We really need to be rid of Mitt Romney. He is not in any way a conservative. In fact, I doubt he has any ideology. He’s the sort that will flip and flop until he finds what “works” to get himself votes. His campaign proved that.

We need someone with principles, not someone that just looks good.

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I don't always vote by party

jaxxon Saturday, November 8th at 6:09PM EST (link)

I’m not one to always vote down party lines. I have voted for Republican and Libertarian candidates in the past. I was actually a member of the Libertarian student group when I was in college. While he’s not what many of you would consider a Republican, I voted for Bloomberg twice (I don’t consider him a Republican either).

With regard to Peggy Noonan, she is definitely a part of the Republican elite and therefore a sore spot for the party in the age of Palin.

if frogs had wings....

AngryFisCon Saturday, November 8th at 6:10PM EST (link)

Yep, we do know best about our country, thanks.

JustLeaveMeAlone Saturday, November 8th at 6:13PM EST (link)

Here’s the deal, UKman. We do not have the feudal background and acceptance thereof that permeates European society. Many of our ancestors were kicked out of Europe for refusing to accept the same. So your “conservatives” and ours start from very different places regarding what we will accept and what we will not.

Europeans, in general, have at least some degree of acceptance that the State owns them at least in part — and therefore owes them a certain amount of care, on the flip side. “L’etat, c’est Moi”. Even though you technically limited and/or got rid of your royalty, you still accept many post-feudal aspects to your lives.

The US has a different history. First, everyone here isn’t from Europe, and for those of us who do descend from European settlers, we come from a breed that rejected the European way of thinking and said “screw that; I believe in meritocracy, not aristocracy.” Rather than the Divine Right of Kings, our settlers believed that the Creator endowed EVERYONE with the Rights of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. No one need pass a blue-blood test to get that.

I don’t want to debate which of us is right and which wrong. But I do want to point out that we start from different belief systems. Americans, on the whole, will not accept being told what to do for the good of the collective. The Government does not own me. I own it.

We believe, as we told King George III, “that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.” That’s why it was a Revolution; not because bullets flew.

That is the basis of America: the consent of the governed; the idea that whatever “belongs” to the government is actually on loan from the people, and not other way around, and that whatever isn’t specifically granted by the people to their government is retained by the people. There is no Crown here to own lands and riches. The people own it all.

When my own ancestor set sail from London in 1650 for the New World, he probably did so from desperation. There was no possibility for any improvement in his lot in England at the time; so he braved a possibly fatal sea voyage to an unknown and dangerous place on the long-shot that he might live and be his own man.

I thank God he did so.

Many generations have passed, but I feel, even more strongly than he did, that I want to be responsible for my own success or failure — and I want my government but to stay out of my way so I may do so.

I do thank you, UKman, for your perspective. It has caused me to remember the basis of my own conservative principles, and why I cherish them so much.

What I want is the US Federal Government, with as little interference in my life and the lives of my fellow citizens as possible, to provide safety and defense of our nation. Beyond that, I want my government to stay out of my life, my wallet, my bedroom, and my mind. I want my government to promote only such social programs as benefit us all, such as exceptional education and reliable, forward-thinking infrastructure.

I want my state and local governments to participate in education, while providing excellent police and fire protection. I want them to cooperate with the Feds to promote the safety and defense of our country.

I want my government to adhere to the US Constitution and its Amendments (specifically the Bill of Rights). Beyond that, I require nothing from my government.

I am happy to accept personal responsibility for my lot in life, without blaming or begging for the help of Uncle Sam. I love my country; I would defend her with my life’s blood. But the day that the US Government ceases to derive its powers from the consent of the governed and starts “granting” rights that are not the government’s to give — well, that’s the day this is no longer the USA, no matter what name is chiseled above the door.

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson

Obama already used Rove's playbook

JustLeaveMeAlone Saturday, November 8th at 6:21PM EST (link)

to get elected. No matter what you think of the writer, the book works. Obama kept the base and made inroads into other groups, while playing the Electoral College. It worked.

Personally, I want to hire Dick Morris for six months, send him to Alaska to tutor Sarah Palin, then sit back and watch :)

Palin 2012 — I’m so there.

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Be RID of People Like You

Swamp_Yankee Saturday, November 8th at 6:28PM EST (link)

Your pathetic. You want to be RID of a trooper for the RIGHT. Someone who has given time, money and energy for the Right. Someone who is heroic figure in on of the Right’s fastest growing groups. You want to be RID of him for governing in Massachusetts. If you got a problem with him for that then you have a problem with every conservative who lives in a Blue state. Way to build a party, moron.

We just lost and you want to alientate more people. Smart one genius. You hatred of the man is irrational. You got issues kid.

Huh??? Do You Have An Agenda

Swamp_Yankee Saturday, November 8th at 6:55PM EST (link)

You state that you are “a social liberal, but fiscal conservative”, but your favorite Republican was Huckabee and that you hope he runs in 2012. That is absolutely nonsensical.

You go on further to state “While I am not a fan of Palin, as a woman, I’m appalled at the hit job some McCain aides and the media are doing. I think she’s extremely ambitious… On a political level she makes me cringe”

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Huckabee...

Jack Saturday, November 8th at 6:58PM EST (link)

The person I don’t trust is Mike Hucakabee. I saw him speak twice in the past month both times presumably for John McCain and in both speeches he never mentioned John McCain by name. Not even once nor Sarah Palin. Huckabee is all over the news though saying how hard he worked for McCain.

How do you give a speech to praise someone and not mention their name? You spend the entire time talking about yourself and how someone with your credentials would be good for the country. He is not to be trusted.

Jack

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Nice response

bs Saturday, November 8th at 7:02PM EST (link)

from both you and Mark. 5’s all around.

Decorum is fo’ suckas

So, was that a "concerned conservative" we've been hearing so much about?

QueenOfCups Saturday, November 8th at 7:04PM EST (link)

Could you give some specific examples of her "rogueness"

QueenOfCups Saturday, November 8th at 7:10PM EST (link)

The only thing I heard was the “palling around with terrorists” and that was quashed as a sign of rogueness by the campaign.

Its About Culture

dld1717 Saturday, November 8th at 7:26PM EST (link)

Before anyone goes off and shoots me please listen

I maintain the Fey imitation on SNL was horrible to her image it made many Americans really believe this is who she is. Glad Palin could laugh at it but I really feel it was the worse thing that could ever happen to her.

I liked Pain a lot but I think all the attacks on her had to do with cultural and where she comes from (The left hated her more then McCain). From the image of her hunting, she let media deem her as religious wing, they made her sound stupid (she is not but I do wish she was quicker on her feet in debate), they attacked her family (daughter pregnant and all Halloween costumes of her in NYC this year it made my stomach turn), and her looks (the fact she is such gorgeous woman is a liability i feel)

Basically, they attack every Republican with this and did same with Clinton basically noting he was a hill billy with white trash in him. Obama has none of it cause he was from city, liberal, attended high education and thats what liberals like and thats where media,entertainment resides.

Palin has benefit of next 2 years to change this but also stay true to who she is. I would be telling her to do some more trips abroad (visit some troops), work with Canada on oil pipeline, and try to do some stuff with Russia.

OK, I'll bite

Jack_Savage Saturday, November 8th at 7:35PM EST (link)

Specific examples of her rebellion, please.
She was on message every single time I head her, and the only “rogue” and “diva” comments were leaked by the same pieces of garbage that are slandering her now. No one saw any of that during any of her appearances.

Unless you can correct me, of course..

Swamp...why are you accusing us of hatred...isn't it possible we see something you refuse to acknowledge?

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 7:47PM EST (link)

I never supported Romney and will never support Romney because of his bragging about Mass Care which is currently bankrupting the state…it’s documented and I can provide the links for you…but I know you wouldn’t bother to read the facts and won’t waste my time looking them up…if you want me to send them let me know and I’ll put them up here.

I didn’t support Romney and I will never support Romney because he advocated bailing out Michigan with Federal largess…not unlike what the golden child will do.

I don’t support Romney and will never support Romney because he alone among the candidates in the 2008 primaries went about systematically destroying every viable candidate that ran…and stuck us with John McCain when he couldn’t close the sale. (this is another reason besides the reports I sited that leav me thinking he could well be behind these attacks on Palin because it fits so well with the way he ran his campaign.

I don’t support and will never support Romney in large part because of his supporters who play the victim card of anti Mormon Bigotry, (not unlike Jesse Jackson and the race hustlers who have done so with race for 40 years), any time someone raises policy questions about him. It infuriates me when Democrats hide behind the racism canard…but it enrages me even more when people I normally agree with resort to the same simple minded tactic.

Finally, I don’t support and will never support Romney because I simply don’t trust the man…Every thing I’ve seen of him tells me he’ll do anything and say anything to get elected…and act like a Democrat when he get’s in office…I’ve had enough of that in this Party…I want someone authentic and not a panderer who’ll be blown about by the wind of popular opinion!

It’s not about Hate…that’s another Dem tactic used to attack us when the attacker has nothing else to fall back on and resorts to minimizing the other sides opposition to simple minded emotion.

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Who would even believe that?

mom2oneson Saturday, November 8th at 7:49PM EST (link)

How many employed mothers with newborn babies act like “divas?” That is so silly. Whoever is doing this has way too much time on their hands! I am sure 99% of the women reading those accusations do not believe it for a second.

This reminds of me custody battles where the parents can’t say anything about the other parent that is a real fault so they make silly stuff up.

Thank the Lord she went Rogue...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 7:55PM EST (link)

If she’d have followed these clowns…they’d have turned her into an empty husk and thrown her into the fire when they were done with her…She ignited something in this party that has been missing for 28 years and has a future because she when rogue and I say GOD bless her!

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RE: Romney

Swamp_Yankee Saturday, November 8th at 8:02PM EST (link)

Where does “us” come from? I was talking to one person. I never used “hate”, you did. I love how people only chime in to bomb Romney. Useful post there. Its so important to destroy Romney.

Lets look at the text of the post “Be RID of Romney…He is not in any way a conservative…I doubt he has any ideology…We need someone with principles, not someone that just looks good.”

If you really beleive that Romney is “not in any way a conservative, you have issues. That is a completely unreasonable and unfathomable statement. You may not like or his brand of conservatism, but to say that he is “not in any way a conservative” is stupid.

I worked on Romney’s gubernatorial campaign. I am a Portuguese Polish son of a fishreman. I shook his hand. I sat in strategy sessions with him. He gave Blue state Republicans the best shot we could ever wish for. He did so much if you actually look at the real record and no those lying propaganda pamphlets created by massresistance and Huckabots.

He campaigned for McCain. Huckabee did not. He went and organized phone banks. Fred sat at his desk and created useless web videos.

You keep spitting on him, You are spitting on me. I fighr for ALL Repubicans in Massachusetts. I am not aprivileged spoiled Redstate Republican. I’m a Republican ghetto bastard. We fight tooth and nail. And If your down with Hagee evangelicals who systemically bash Romney, then you got a problem with Catholics like me.

So all those who make the Romney jibes personal, make it personal to me.

I beg to differ on that...McCain had foreign Policy and

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 8:02PM EST (link)

spending as core issues…Bob :if you want me to be Reagan, I’ll be Reagan never articulated any reason he should be president and I defy anyone to come up with what the theme of the 1996 campaign was..

McCain and his Campaign sucked and I was never a fan…but Bob Dole 96 was the most pathetic campaign I’ve seen!

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Ace...I think you're a bit off here

Daniel Glenn Saturday, November 8th at 8:04PM EST (link)

I don’t see any reason why McCain would want to see Palin damaged…We know that he won’t be running again in 4 years, and I don’t think that McCain would be the kind to seek retribution.

The only reason why he would want her damaged is if she plans to seek a Senate seat, either after Stevens resigns (hopefully) or in 2010 when Murkowski’s up, so that way she would enter as damaged goods and wouldn’t be able to get any good committees or leadership positions. As far as we know, she is going to stay in Alaska.

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“If people are not free to trade with each other, all other freedom is meaningless.”

Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.

Just A Few Things

jaxxon Saturday, November 8th at 8:04PM EST (link)

1) I’m not sure what to think of this, but it appears she is responsible for setting off the Ayers tirade without the green light from the campaign. And something may be revealed later on that the Secret Service is holding her responsible for spike in death threats Obama received after her comments. It’s in a story by the Telegraph.

2) Bringing up the “shopping spree” at a rally in Florida. (the clothing purchases were not her fault, and someone should have stepped up in her defense, but certainly, not the candidate herself). I think Elizabeth Hasselback actualy brought it up, but she took the ball and ran with it when she should have let it go. People had stopped talking about it already.

3) Repeatedly talking to reporters without “permission” from her handlers.

These are all cited by McCain aides. I’m not making any of this up. In my opinion, if the campaign is leaking stories about her “going rogue” she’s going rogue. Even if YOU don’t agree that she was, people in the campaign said she was. That’s the point.

I don’t think many people believe she greeted Schmidt and Salter in a towel, or that she actually went on a shopping spree, or even that she couldn’t name the countries of North America. But then again, those allegations go to something else people thought about her, not her willingness to stay on message and remain disciplined.

Michigan deserves every lost job and miserable day it gets

Jack_Savage Saturday, November 8th at 8:08PM EST (link)

There are not enough good people with brains there that understand the only thing remaining constant besides their misery is elected Democrats. There are some there, but not nearly enough.

LOL...please tell me you're Joking...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 8:16PM EST (link)

BHO had operatives working in the McCain Campaign who leaked trash on Palin???

Ohh…wait…Mcain had Demcrats working on his campaign?

Hmm..you are kidding right???

umm…

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Do you include MI Republicans?

jaxxon Saturday, November 8th at 8:19PM EST (link)

Would you really want an entire state to suffer for the votes of roughly half its population? Doesn’t sound quite far. Your blame is truly displaced. Place it where it should be- on the Republican message endorsed by John McCain.

5*5*5*5*5

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 8:22PM EST (link)

nt

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So let's continue with the strategy that worked so well for Ford, GHW Bush, Dole, and GW Bush in his second term?

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 8:25PM EST (link)

OK…that really sounds like a winning strategy to me…especially since it’s proven it’s self so effective in the past!

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5555

Daniel Glenn Saturday, November 8th at 8:29PM EST (link)

The reason I supported Romney in the primaries (even though I wasn’t able to vote for him) was because of the fact that instead of sitting on his butt and complaining about something, he actually went out and did something about it. In other words, he was a leader.

He also was a good team player. Unlike Huck, Romney recognized that after Super Tuesday, he had no chance and used CPAC to gracefully bow out. He also stepped up to the plate and campaigned for McCain.

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Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.

If this comment were a diary, I'd recommend it twice if I could!

janis Saturday, November 8th at 8:30PM EST (link)

And Mark’s was very good, too. Given the overweening ambition to expand gov. into every detail of our lives in the new administration and to tax us into oblivion, this comment in particular is wrenchingly pertinent to this time in our nation’s history.

Somehow we MUST get back to educating the young that THIS is our history and our inheritance, but only if we can keep it.

Whoever is behind this...our leader's silence is unexceptable

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 8:32PM EST (link)

whoever they be!

They all need to speak out!

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I completely agree with you

jaxxon Saturday, November 8th at 8:37PM EST (link)

It is about culture. I believe the McCain campaign had to appeal to the Republicans he was losing. He is more moderate than most and had other qualities that Republicans did not like- his stances on campaign finance and immigration among a few things (I think). So in order to broaden his appeal he touted Sarah Palin’s cultural characteristics which alienated most Democrats, rather than touting her experiences as a governor.

As a New Yorker, I am a social liberal. I am pro-choice, pro-affirmative action and a bunch of “pro” things. If you could believe it, I’m all for legalizing drugs. I am a supporter of the second amendment. My family lives down south and they all have guns. They hunt and feel a need to protect themselves from criminals. I understand it. However Like many New Yorker- Democrats and Republicans- I am acutely aware of what loosened gun laws do to urban areas in New York. Rudy Giuliani was a pro-choice and pro-gun control and he is a Republican!

New York is a weird place. A Republican could win the state. 9/11 changed the way a lot of New Yorkers think, especially about national security.

Tonight on Fox

SteveLA Saturday, November 8th at 8:38PM EST (link)

jdripper

Watching Huck on Fox, and now that you point it out, I don’t know if he mentioned Palin expect in a joke during the monologue. You make an interesting point about Huckahucka

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What, praytell...

Putter Saturday, November 8th at 8:40PM EST (link)

was the message of the McCain campaign? Whatever it was, it did not resonate. Palin was the only bright spot. Frankly, I don’t care if ALL of the rumors are true. She is a quick study and I know what her default settings are. When she seeks advice, she won’t call Joe Lieberman first.

Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies…

It occurs to me that recognizing Sarah Palin

janis Saturday, November 8th at 8:40PM EST (link)

for who she is is a visceral thing, much as those who heard Ronald Reagan speak of his beliefs, and Fred Thompson as well, knew instantly in their political soul that this person knew and loved America in the same way that they did. That this person could be well trusted with the care and protection of our country.

Those who would work to destroy such people do not care about their country, they care only about furthering their own ambitions.

Unnamed sources

redalert Saturday, November 8th at 8:44PM EST (link)

You seem to forget that this is the old ploy of “unnamed sources”. When you don’t name the individual who supposedly gave you the information,the leak could have come from anyone. The information could even be completely false. If you want to damage a candidate or, as in this case,several candidates,you put out a story like this. It could have been Romney,Huckabee or YES,your buddy Obama. The One has the most to gain from three top Republican candidates being tarnished at the same time. Do you have proof that the leak came from someone inside the McCain camp? If so,we would like to hear that proof. You write as if there is evidence that it really was someone in McCain’s camp and as far as we know,that is not the case. Perhaps you could give us some names.

What's this "our leader" crap.

mbecker908 Saturday, November 8th at 8:48PM EST (link)

How about “our former leader”? Or even better “our last nominee”.

Based on the results, it would appear that the best parable for John McCain’s (and GWB’s) leadership would be…

lemming

Get rid of the elephant, welcome the LEMMING!

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Disapointment

SteveLA Saturday, November 8th at 8:57PM EST (link)

I’m disappointed, but not surprised that HuckaHucka did not take the time to take the verbal rod that to those who are sniping from the shadows at Palin.

What would it have cost Huck to spend 2 minutes to comment about the character of Washington and Team McCain staffers who are engaged in nameless faceless attacks.

Shame on Mike Huckabee for his failure to speak up.

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Oh wait...I didn't mean to limit that to McCain...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 9:00PM EST (link)

I should have put the hyphen after the s

Our Leaders’ silence is unacceptable…many leaders plural possessive!

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Surprise Steve...I agree with you 100% and it won't be forgotten by me!

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 9:03PM EST (link)

nt

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Feel the love for Palin

Jay Saturday, November 8th at 9:03PM EST (link)

I agree all the way around that these kinds of attacks on Palin need to be condemned by ALL the GOP players in this year’s election. The 11th Commandment needs to be respected. These people are cowards and McCain needs to take the lead and put an end to this. Until someone takes the reins, he is the de facto leader of this party (let’s hope for not much longer). He needed to speak up days ago.

Secondly, we absolutely need to smoke these people out and ensure all future candidates know who the snakes are (and the political cognescenti so we know who to distrust and not support).

Thirdly, I like the idea of Sarah Palin as standard bearer, but I am not convinced, yet. I defend her to those less enamored of her (to say the best) as a national neophyte, who obviously has tremendous retail political skills and a great back story. But, I admit a little uneasiness at her speaking style (which drives me crazy) and I don’t think she has made herself conversant enough on key national issues to avoid caricature.

She has a decision to make. If she wants to pursue national office, she needs to take what I think is her considerable intelligence, and apply that to crafting Conservative opinions, and marketing them clearly to the American people. I hope she will do that. I have 100% confidence that Bobby Jindal can (and will). It would be great to have multiple good, fresh, conservative choices in 2012 and 2016 (God forbid).

But, for me, Sarah Palin is not ready for prime time just yet. I still found her a great, inspired choice for #2, but she faced a massive learning curve.

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Amen

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 9:04PM EST (link)

nt

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We need to take up a collection and buy them ALL

mbecker908 Saturday, November 8th at 9:05PM EST (link)

a lemming.

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First off Obama isn't my buddy...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 9:09PM EST (link)

and I don’t write “as if anything”…I just find it hard to believe that Carl Cameron would report stories from Obama people who obviously wouldn’t be in a position to know the details these leakers said they knew…

as for proving who these vermin are…if I knew and could prove who it was…let me assure you I would splash it on as many diaries I could post to!

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OK...fair enough...and I don't remember brining in Huckabee or Haggee

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 9:23PM EST (link)

so…once again we drag in digs that have nothing to do with the discussion at hand…

Maybe I shouldn’t have interjected myself into your back and forth with another poster but you dumped the same spew on me in another post…

As for pmphlets or whatever term you used from Huckabee and whoever else you mentioned…was it Hagee…I don’t need anyone to pamphleteer for me or tell me what to think…I have eyes…I can read…and I’m not an idiot…every thing I pointed out in my post is a fact…Romney care is bankrupting Mass…and Romney never missed an opportunity to tell everyone what a brilliant plan it was. Romney did propose bailing out Michigan with a nanny state bailout not unlike the travesty we were just saddled with by Bush/McCain/Obama! Romney did do everything he could to kneecap every viable candidate in the primaries which fits rather nicely with what is being done to Palin…

As for:

You keep spitting on him, You are spitting on me. I fighr for ALL Repubicans in Massachusetts. I am not aprivileged spoiled Redstate Republican. I’m a Republican ghetto bastard. We fight tooth and nail.

I can fight just as hard…I’m not trying to make anything personal…I’m just sick of the “anyone who disagrees with Romney is an anti Mormon bigot Meme…There was a time when Romney could have won me over…and gotten me to work for him…but after 2 years of getting slapped with that crap I would piss on him to put him out if he were on fire!

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let me correct that...I wouldn't

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 9:26PM EST (link)

nt

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He's THE moderat Maverick...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 9:30PM EST (link)

an authentic conservative as President is a threat to what he believes and stands for…

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I agree

jaxxon Saturday, November 8th at 9:51PM EST (link)

Again, while I don’t agree with many of her policy positions, I think she was treated unfairly. Her instincts are not to be a follower, but a leader. I truly respect and admire that in her.

I'm Not Talking About Candidate Dole, I'm Talking About Dole's People

IJB Saturday, November 8th at 9:55PM EST (link)

Dole’s people were nowhere near as bad as McCain’s. McCain’s people were just awful. Especially the people who went on the news channels.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Operation Non-Leper

SAZMD Saturday, November 8th at 10:20PM EST (link)

Maybe it would be good to make of list of people exonerated too. If you have good information they weren’t part of the smears, they should be named as well so they are not tainted by having worked on the McCain campaign (well, no more than anyone else should for working on his campaign).

This may be rhetorical...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 11:02PM EST (link)

but weren’t Dole’s people responsible for Doles total lack of a message?

Both Campaigns were atrocious…so I guess it’s academic…but as I remember it..I was way more depressed and disheartened by Dole’s campaign on election day than I was this year.

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True enough...

Daniel Glenn Saturday, November 8th at 11:29PM EST (link)

but won’t any seniority and influence that he had in the Senate be marginalized by the fact that he unsuccessfully ran for president? I mean you don’t see much out John Kerry except as a surrogate in this past election.

Also, doesn’t he like to fancy himself a foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution? If he loved being a foot soldier in that one, then won’t he go ga-ga over being able to say “I was a leader in the Palin Revolution”? And wouldn’t a Jindal presidency be anathema to what that moderate maverick stands for as well? If so, are we to expect this from McCain in 4 years if/when Jindal or Palin is our nominee?

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Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.

OK..as a factual matter...as I understand it...he doesn't lose his seniority...

AceInTX Saturday, November 8th at 11:38PM EST (link)

as far as the “Foot Soldier in the Reagan Revolution goes…That’s a throw away line that never had a basis in fact…Saying he was a foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution because he happened to be around when Reagan did his best work is like me saying I was a member of the Band because I was standing on the sidewalk when they marched by…McCain has never been more than a bright red pimple on the late great Reagan’s rear end!

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How on earth are Republicans to blame for Michigan's problems?

Jack_Savage Saturday, November 8th at 11:43PM EST (link)

I really need some clarification on this, please.

There will never ever be a Republican that does not get mocked

QueenOfCups Saturday, November 8th at 11:45PM EST (link)

There will always be something for Liberal comedians to mock about them. It won’t matter how clean, attractive, intelligent or seemingly perfect they are.

Here is the bottom line, jaxxon

Jack_Savage Saturday, November 8th at 11:48PM EST (link)

Sarah Palin, rogue or not, did not cost John McCain the election. The simple fact is that the party he spent so much time and energy tearing apart was not able to glue itself back together sufficiently to elect him. The only reason the election was close was due to Sarah Palin.

Period.

Because McCain made bloggers do all the heavy lifting.

QueenOfCups Saturday, November 8th at 11:53PM EST (link)

Every time he blamed the financial crisis on Wall Street Greed, I cringed!

He blew it by not demonstrating what he promised in his acceptance speech

QueenOfCups Saturday, November 8th at 11:57PM EST (link)

by voting against the bailout and holding up that monstrosity of a bill to the American people and simply saying:THIS is what is wrong with Washington. And then named the names he promised only WEEKS before!

He’d have SMOKED Obama, and given all the house seat that were up to the GOP.

*that* is what makes a rogue?!?

itrytobenice Saturday, November 8th at 11:57PM EST (link)

First, it is pretty obvious that the campaign intended to make Ayers a part of the strike against O. Witness: they did it. There is no indication that Sarah was off the reservation when she made that comment. And I call bovine excrement on 1. her being responsible for any death threats against O. and
2. the fact that there was any significant or otherwise unexpected death threats against O.

Commenting about her clothes purchases at that event when she was introduced by Hasselback was just taking a hit when the ball sailed over the plate. Only a moron would have continued to let the media carry on about that nonsense without mentioning it. Witness the fact that the losing McCain campaign just let it sit out there for days while they sat there looking like a deer staring into headlights.

Regarding her willingness to speak to reporters: She was running for VP. The #2 executive position in this nation. If she wanted to speak to reporters, the McCain staff was being extremely disrespectful and insubordinate to try to tell her when and where she could talk. When we elect Presidents and VPs, we expect them to be leaders, not little puppies on ropes, led and tugged by Gulliver’s little men.

The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

Amen Putter and an excellent repost!

AceInTX Sunday, November 9th at 12:00AM EST (link)

nt

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Amen...

AceInTX Sunday, November 9th at 12:19AM EST (link)

and since when does being the number two on a ticket require that she be silent when she is being slandered and falsely maligned…as for speaking to Reporters without their permission…look who they “permitted” her to talk to and how did that work out?

As you say…she’s not nor should she be an obedient little puppy to be ordered around and managed by her subordinates and those that are lower on the food chan than her…and as I say…than GOD she did go Rogue or she’d have been Quialed and dead where 2012 is concerned!

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Oh, my. 5555555

itrytobenice Sunday, November 9th at 12:41AM EST (link)

Well said, sir. Well said.

The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

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nogyro35 Sunday, November 9th at 12:53AM EST (link)

Your right. That’s what I thought the first night I heard her speak.

It’s sad she has to go back to Alaska.

I'm really glad I got a chance to read this before I went to bed..

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It’s good stuff like this that makes RedState so interesting.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Why The GOP Went Down In Flames

Sarracuda Sunday, November 9th at 1:11AM EST (link)

If people want to know why the Republican party went down in flames this election, its due to “staffers” like these who instead of saying NOTHING and moving on, instead they come out without coming out like the jerks that they are and bash someone who energized the base, drew in MORE crowds then I have ever seen, even more crowds then John McCain, I saw almost every Sarah Palin rally, and the ones that she had with McCain, I saw with my very own eyes after she was done talking they would LEAVE, yeah actually LEAVE, they weren’t even interested in hearing McCain talk, now why, he is the one running for President, well, it was because they came to see HER, not HIM. Look, I respect John for what he did for this country, he is a war hero and from what I have seen(until proven otherwise) he a pretty decent guy, but I voted for Sarah Palin, NOT John McCain, if he had not chosen her, I would have stayed home. I voted for Hillary Clinton during the primary, saw her being screwed over by the Democratic party and decided to switched to the Republican party, I thought only democrats could be this evil, I see even the GOP are full of snakes. The GOP has to be cleaned out, these kinds of “people” don’t need to represent the Republican party. Sarah is the future of the party hands down. She is OUR Ronny Reagan, and if it is Mitt Romney’s people, or whoever, they are slime balls, because Sarah busted her ass day and night for this campaign and the fact that she went “rogue” and brought up Wright and Ayers, GOOD FOR HER!! It’s what McCain should have done a long time ago. No, instead he had to be Mr. Nice Guy to Obama and kiss his butt, what did that get McCain, nothing, maybe if he had spent less time being nice and more time attacking he would have won. Without Sarah, he would have lost by a landslide, and I mean winning only a few states, Sarah brought this party together and now the GOP is trying to tear her apart. Unbelievable, no wonder good people don’t get into politics, because of evil like THIS. Sarah is my President, in 2012 when she runs, she WILL win because she is REAL, AUTHENTIC, and LEGIT and not afraid to speak the TRUTH. It’s a shame the Republican party doesn’t have more Sarah’s out there representing their cause, they just might have won if they did.

Huckabee Bashed Sarah Too??

Sarracuda Sunday, November 9th at 1:13AM EST (link)

Wait, Huckabee mocked Sarah also..geez will it ever stop. These people are leeches who want to make themselves famous. No wonder people wanted to punish the Republican party

No...he did not

SteveLA Sunday, November 9th at 1:42AM EST (link)

HuckaHucka made some joke, something about we can stop talking about clothes shopping. Very very oblique and not a Palin shot.

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Competency over ideological purity

swamp, you can't have it both ways

Shawn Gillogly Sunday, November 9th at 2:19AM EST (link)

Don’t call someone “pathetic” and then claim innocence about hate language.

Romney isn’t a loyal trooper. He’s kneecapped his opposition before. There are press reports that he was kneecapping Palin as he saw her a threat in 12 in the media. It was Romney surrogates that backstabbed and savaged her in the media and gave the left fodder. He could’ve stopped that any time…if he wanted to.

Please, don’t bother protesting Romney’s loyalty. It’s as convincing as his “conservative” record. He’s a typical self-serving Establishment Republican who passes himself off as running on the right so it can give him a chance to win…until he can find a way to win by looking “bipartisan” (ie Michigan).

Any “conservative” candidate not good enough to win this time around against deadwood like McCain isn’t good enough for 12. Period.

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It really should be easily understood by most here

dbecraft Sunday, November 9th at 4:12AM EST (link)

that neither McCain, Huckabee, or Romney had anything to do with the attempts to disgrace Sarah Palin.

This seems obvious to me that it was the work of the liberal Republicans (yes, NeoCons) that were working for McCain. After all, McCain attracted the most liberal of Republicans for his staff and you have to know they hated the idea of a Conservative lady for the VP position. This actually should be very obvious to anyone here at RedState especially…

This will even continue for the next year or so to ensure that she has to respectable place in the party. The thing is though - she is considered one of ours and one of the top prospects so they, liberal fake Republicans, can take a hike!

Their urge to tap down the Conservative base of the Republican Party after this loss is undeniable. I can see no other option other than these same losing Republican members attempting to squash Conservative up and coming possibilities.

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The Fact Remains

Davo Sunday, November 9th at 5:26AM EST (link)

That the silence is deafening. No one, NO ONE, has come to Sarah Palin’s defence. She did the one thing that the tried and true standard bearers couldn’t do, she brought out the base in huge numbers wherever she went. And this has all of them worried about their own future. I say their future not that of the Republican party or even the country. They don’t see themselves supporting anyone but themselves. If she hadn’t been on the ticket, McCain=McGovern.

This is precisely why we lost the election. The irony is that the Democrats, who are much more prone to this problem, were able to overcome their internal divisions and focus on the goal for just long enough to win. They are already going back to the internal sniping and backbiting.

I have to echo Rush here,”Conservative issues win elections every time they are tried.”

It may be true that the Big Shots didn’t specifically order the hit. But they are certainly complicit with their silence. My personal “Leper List” is quite lengthy.

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Jack Sunday, November 9th at 7:18AM EST (link)

of all of the people who ran for President last year beyond Obama it was Huckabee that I disliked and distrusted the most.

He strikes me as a man that will do anything to advance himself.

Jack

“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill

What I was trying to say is this...

Daniel Glenn Sunday, November 9th at 10:16AM EST (link)

…Isn’t McCain’s influence and ability to “work across the aisle” going to be somewhat marginalized now because of the fact that a) most of his democrat friends supported bambi for prez and b) he was bambi’s opponent? If so, wouldn’t this basically make him a non-factor because he “is a maverick who likes to buck his party,” and thus his own party isn’t particularly nuts about him?

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“In an insane society, reality is outside of the mainstream.”

“If people are not free to trade with each other, all other freedom is meaningless.”

Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.

No...he'll be back to what he's always been...an agent of the Democrats always ready to step in and save their bacon every time the party succeeds in trumping them!

AceInTX Sunday, November 9th at 8:28PM EST (link)

His whole purpose in life has been to be the “conciliator, (read enabler) to the Democrat Party all in the interest of “Comity”, “Bipartisanship” and the way to, (for the Democrats), get things done!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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AceInTX Sunday, November 9th at 8:36PM EST (link)

nt

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Where have you been dude?

mbecker908 Sunday, November 9th at 8:43PM EST (link)

His own party has never been particularly enthralled with him. He got the nomination because he ran out of money and everybody counted him out. He sat on the sidelines and watched while Rudy and Fred deconstructed with no help from anybody, Romney just never got it and Huckabee never had it. He bounced in and picked up the pieces and walked away with the nomination. He was damn near nobody’s first choice (with apologies to Adam C).

That said, he’ll go back to the Senate where he’s got a cadre of boot licking acolytes who worship the guy (see Graham). Obama will call on him (not directly of course, but through Harry Reid) to help out for the sake of the American People. John will perform his thing again.

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

Why won't he clear the air???

antisocial Sunday, November 9th at 9:09PM EST (link)

This thing is just frustrating. If only the OLD MAN would clear it and denounce the unprofessional people in his campaign. He hired them in the first place. Right? I think he IS RESPONSIBLE for the smearing.

Frankly it doesn’t matter anymore. Good he lost!!! Its better fighting 4 years instead of getting frustrated for 4 years.

John please RETIRE.

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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)

I know I know the base doesn't like him

Daniel Glenn Sunday, November 9th at 11:28PM EST (link)

I haven’t had my head in the sand these past few months…I was trying to argue that he wasn’t behind it, but my reason appeared to be flawed…I think it’s either McCain trying to “go against his own party” again, or a Kevin Madden-like person thinking short term to 2012 and how best to position their person to win in 2012…Huckabee’s guy maybe, as a Palin candidacy threatens him most b/c she appeals most to Huck’s constituencies???

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“In an insane society, reality is outside of the mainstream.”

“If people are not free to trade with each other, all other freedom is meaningless.”

Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.

Palin is absolutely no threat to Huckabee.

mbecker908 Monday, November 10th at 1:41PM EST (link)

Mike Huckabee’s only threat is Mike Huckabee. He will NEVER outrun his record.

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

Palin is a threat to Huckleberry

Daniel Glenn Monday, November 10th at 6:49PM EST (link)

She does well on the life issue which is more or less why Huck won Iowa…Win Iowa and you have a good momentum started…Not that it mattered this year…but Palin has potential appeal in New Hampshire…Thus a big threat to basically anyone who’s interested in 2012…whether she runs is something else.

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“In an insane society, reality is outside of the mainstream.”

“If people are not free to trade with each other, all other freedom is meaningless.”

Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.

all of the following are threats to huckleberry

kyle8 Monday, November 10th at 6:56PM EST (link)

common sense, taste, intelligence, class, and unity.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

Huckabee is dead.

mbecker908 Monday, November 10th at 7:14PM EST (link)

The guy bounced onto the scene as a relatively unknown southern governor whose only reason for being was his pro-life creds. He had no money and no organization and “acquired” organization by making a big flash out of signing up for the FairTax. That was a move so obvious it was cause for laughter. The guy knows less about economics that McCain, Obama or Bush, he’s totally illiterate. It was a good political move though, it got him some organization on the ground and combined with some easily swayed RTL folks who were scared to death of Rudy and hated Romney he had instant organization.

Iowa, the zit on the political landscape that starts the process, is nothing more than a test of grassroots organization. Huckabee won Iowa because of the RTL and FT folks. And that was the end of his campaign. Once he got some notoriety, he was never able to raise significant amounts of money nor was he able to put together an effective campaign.

The guy is pretty good in the debate format and can be a pretty good stump speaker, although I’d argue Gov. Palin is better on both counts. That won’t overcome the fact that he’s fundamentally a Huey Long Populist masquerading as a Republican. Unlike Gov. Palin, who can point to REAL accomplishments over just two years as Gov., Huckabee was Governor of AR for ten years and accomplished specifically zip. And he spent the rest of his campaign after Iowa spinning and lying about what did in AR.

The bloom is off the rose for Huckabee and he - thankfully - accomplished the job all by himself. He’s not only not-ready-for-prime-time, he’s been outed for who he really is. He’s done.

And FWIW, so are, at a minimum, Rudy and Fred. Though for entirely different reasons. People who run campaigns as uninspired and crappy as they ran shouldn’t get another shot. Romney is probably done, his campaign wasn’t much better than R&F.

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

all of which Palin has

Daniel Glenn Monday, November 10th at 10:23PM EST (link)

nt

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“In an insane society, reality is outside of the mainstream.”

“If people are not free to trade with each other, all other freedom is meaningless.”

Don’t blame me. I voted for McCain.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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