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		<title>By: Diogenes314</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-13057</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogenes314</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are citizens. period.

From the OP...

&lt;i&gt;This is total horse s***. Arnold Schwarzenegger will never be president because of the rule of law...&lt;/i&gt;

Well at least something good came out of all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are citizens. period.</p>
<p>From the OP&#8230;</p>
<p><i>This is total horse s***. Arnold Schwarzenegger will never be president because of the rule of law&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Well at least something good came out of all this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Groenhagen</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-13044</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Groenhagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You better make sure your own spelling is perfect.

"Heck, I use Firefox and it’s spell checker could tell the difference."

Regarding Firefox, ITS spell checker missed that one.

As far as the birth certificate, it does not appear to be a serious issue. If, however, by the tiniest of odds it turns out that Obama was not born in the United States, then, of course, the rule of law must prevail. We cannot ignore the rule of law merely because adhering to it might result in mob action. 

For the time being, I am much more concerned with the probability that Obama will introduce alien ideals and principles (esp. of the Franco-Germanic variety) than the small possibility that he himself is an alien.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You better make sure your own spelling is perfect.</p>
<p>&#8220;Heck, I use Firefox and it’s spell checker could tell the difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regarding Firefox, ITS spell checker missed that one.</p>
<p>As far as the birth certificate, it does not appear to be a serious issue. If, however, by the tiniest of odds it turns out that Obama was not born in the United States, then, of course, the rule of law must prevail. We cannot ignore the rule of law merely because adhering to it might result in mob action. </p>
<p>For the time being, I am much more concerned with the probability that Obama will introduce alien ideals and principles (esp. of the Franco-Germanic variety) than the small possibility that he himself is an alien.</p>
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		<title>By: itdiehard</title>
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		<dc:creator>itdiehard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy granting US citizenship to illegals children born in the US seems to push this argument.  If he was born in Kenya he should be a Kenya citizenship; however, Kenya law may not see it this way. He maybe a US citizen; however, may not be a natural born citizen, If natural born means being burn on US territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy granting US citizenship to illegals children born in the US seems to push this argument.  If he was born in Kenya he should be a Kenya citizenship; however, Kenya law may not see it this way. He maybe a US citizen; however, may not be a natural born citizen, If natural born means being burn on US territory.</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed that discussion on the other thread.  Had Erick not wrote that comment number 4 I would have never thought twice about Article II Section 1 clause 5 now I know that it is wide open to procedural and semantic trumps, and Acts of Congress especially the one in 1790.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed that discussion on the other thread.  Had Erick not wrote that comment number 4 I would have never thought twice about Article II Section 1 clause 5 now I know that it is wide open to procedural and semantic trumps, and Acts of Congress especially the one in 1790.</p>
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		<title>By: flagtown</title>
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		<dc:creator>flagtown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean if the Supreme Court doesn't rule the way we want the Queen of England gets to boss us around?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean if the Supreme Court doesn&#8217;t rule the way we want the Queen of England gets to boss us around?!</p>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... sleep typing... your alter-ego ...

;-)

Push comes to shove... Erick knows (based on the letters content to judge by) that we'd side with him... but there are some "reasonable" folks here that do really want to have continued discussion on the Topic... Bet they'd, just as well too, prefer the kooks stay out of the thread. 

Like Han said in the other thread, there are some that just dismiss Obama and will latch on to any/all available angles/arguments (whether thought through or not) to justify their "feelings." Most of us want discussion from an earnest and thoughtful standpoint... not just ranting and raving...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; sleep typing&#8230; your alter-ego &#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/erick/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Push comes to shove&#8230; Erick knows (based on the letters content to judge by) that we&#8217;d side with him&#8230; but there are some &#8220;reasonable&#8221; folks here that do really want to have continued discussion on the Topic&#8230; Bet they&#8217;d, just as well too, prefer the kooks stay out of the thread. </p>
<p>Like Han said in the other thread, there are some that just dismiss Obama and will latch on to any/all available angles/arguments (whether thought through or not) to justify their &#8220;feelings.&#8221; Most of us want discussion from an earnest and thoughtful standpoint&#8230; not just ranting and raving&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why not deal with the substance of the issue, like Lawyer DeVine shall? And just because one suspects that even if "it all" is true, five justices would not have the courage to rule according to the rule of law, is that a reasonable excuse not to proclaim the truth? 

I think not. See Amos and other prophets in the Bible. One guy proclaimed the truth and was crucified. At some point, conservatives have got to make a stand for self government under law (see the Constitution) or forever surrender the revolution back to rule by men, whether it be Kings or Oligarchs.

That said, I Suspect that there is one fatal flaw in all the cases, and that is that Obama's mother was an American citizen.

more later on my blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why not deal with the substance of the issue, like Lawyer DeVine shall? And just because one suspects that even if &#8220;it all&#8221; is true, five justices would not have the courage to rule according to the rule of law, is that a reasonable excuse not to proclaim the truth? </p>
<p>I think not. See Amos and other prophets in the Bible. One guy proclaimed the truth and was crucified. At some point, conservatives have got to make a stand for self government under law (see the Constitution) or forever surrender the revolution back to rule by men, whether it be Kings or Oligarchs.</p>
<p>That said, I Suspect that there is one fatal flaw in all the cases, and that is that Obama&#8217;s mother was an American citizen.</p>
<p>more later on my blog</p>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
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		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short of an Official "Banned Topics List" peeps should be allowed to discuss... and we are free to avoid the discussion... While you may have come across "harsh" your points are your opinion and you shouldn't back down from them.

A "Banned Topics list" would be harsh IMO but the Right of the Private site Directors... if they really think these discussions are beneath the site... that is the solution...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short of an Official &#8220;Banned Topics List&#8221; peeps should be allowed to discuss&#8230; and we are free to avoid the discussion&#8230; While you may have come across &#8220;harsh&#8221; your points are your opinion and you shouldn&#8217;t back down from them.</p>
<p>A &#8220;Banned Topics list&#8221; would be harsh IMO but the Right of the Private site Directors&#8230; if they really think these discussions are beneath the site&#8230; that is the solution&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SteveLA</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12975</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick

Gonna be a long four years.

Guess the new non new tone, is the new Fight Club which I guess is fair enough, if you know what you are fighting about and for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick</p>
<p>Gonna be a long four years.</p>
<p>Guess the new non new tone, is the new Fight Club which I guess is fair enough, if you know what you are fighting about and for.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12973</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NT</p>
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		<title>By: indym</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12970</link>
		<dc:creator>indym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  I am writing a post regarding this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  I am writing a post regarding this.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Erickson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12969</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I love that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I love that line.</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12967</link>
		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think this topic should be dropped (apparently, there will be no agreement on this), but the above comes on a little stronger than I meant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think this topic should be dropped (apparently, there will be no agreement on this), but the above comes on a little stronger than I meant.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Erickson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12965</link>
		<dc:creator>Erick Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You actually have a basic command of grammar.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually have a basic command of grammar.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.redstate.com/erick/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: SteveLA</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12961</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erick, 

Guess some folks are forgetting Lt. General Russell General Honore's famous words from Katrina or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erick, </p>
<p>Guess some folks are forgetting Lt. General Russell General Honore&#8217;s famous words from Katrina or something.</p>
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		<title>By: RoxannaDanna</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12958</link>
		<dc:creator>RoxannaDanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have to go back and check my spelling. 

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have to go back and check my spelling. </p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: IJB</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12955</link>
		<dc:creator>IJB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This keeps up, and Neil's efforts won't be able to save this site. 

This site is starting to look like Polipundit c. 2005. 

Message to Directors: Drop this immediately or you're going to lose readership (and, yeah, I might be one of them). 

Message to Commenters: When Directors are digging themselves a hole, don't egg them on. 

Message to everyone: Cool off. You don't want this to go any further. You will regret it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This keeps up, and Neil&#8217;s efforts won&#8217;t be able to save this site. </p>
<p>This site is starting to look like Polipundit c. 2005. </p>
<p>Message to Directors: Drop this immediately or you&#8217;re going to lose readership (and, yeah, I might be one of them). </p>
<p>Message to Commenters: When Directors are digging themselves a hole, don&#8217;t egg them on. </p>
<p>Message to everyone: Cool off. You don&#8217;t want this to go any further. You will regret it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will it play on my iPod??</description>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/erick/2008/12/04/i-knew-id-get-this-sort-of-stuff/#comment-12948</link>
		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all can have a bad day or two... when things we'd normally just let roll off gets us and we may "over-react." (I don't really put this in the "over-react" department, I just saying "in general." you know!?!?

On the other hand... We all know some folks that get a burr in their hindside and just won't let something go... And all I'm saying is that we need to just let them go on and on amongst others that want to banter it and avoid the discussions ourselves for something that we would actually like to discuss.

I myself am still undecided how much weight, concern, value, I put in this topic! Then there is the Topic of Hillary and SOS being challenged under less referenced Constitutional clauses. We are hearing about how this has come up before and basically skirted... We can't take Constitutional issues lightly, so I am open to erring on the side of caution and hammering them out... AMONGST THOSE WHO REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS THEM...

Last option... DIRECTORS CAN BAN A SUBJECT/TOPIC... and be done with it... PERIOD.... this is a Private site and they may ban a topic... short of that... AVOID IT!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all can have a bad day or two&#8230; when things we&#8217;d normally just let roll off gets us and we may &#8220;over-react.&#8221; (I don&#8217;t really put this in the &#8220;over-react&#8221; department, I just saying &#8220;in general.&#8221; you know!?!?</p>
<p>On the other hand&#8230; We all know some folks that get a burr in their hindside and just won&#8217;t let something go&#8230; And all I&#8217;m saying is that we need to just let them go on and on amongst others that want to banter it and avoid the discussions ourselves for something that we would actually like to discuss.</p>
<p>I myself am still undecided how much weight, concern, value, I put in this topic! Then there is the Topic of Hillary and SOS being challenged under less referenced Constitutional clauses. We are hearing about how this has come up before and basically skirted&#8230; We can&#8217;t take Constitutional issues lightly, so I am open to erring on the side of caution and hammering them out&#8230; AMONGST THOSE WHO REALLY WANT TO DISCUSS THEM&#8230;</p>
<p>Last option&#8230; DIRECTORS CAN BAN A SUBJECT/TOPIC&#8230; and be done with it&#8230; PERIOD&#8230;. this is a Private site and they may ban a topic&#8230; short of that&#8230; AVOID IT!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: birdmojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>birdmojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet he thinks that Thriller was a better album than Off The Wall as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet he thinks that Thriller was a better album than Off The Wall as well.</p>
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