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Colin Powell Has Probably Never Listened to Rush Limbaugh

Colin Powell has opened his mouth and let out some hate:

“Can we continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh?” Powell asked. “Is this really the kind of party that we want to be when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts?”

First, we should note that Powell equates Limbaugh to the Republican Party when Rush, like most of us except Powell, is a conservative first and a Republican second.

Second, exactly what “lesser instincts” is Rush appealing to? He’s a proponent of freedom, demands accountability, is a champion of the individual, and believes in equality of opportunity instead of the demeaning belief that the government should force all people to be equal at the lowest common denominator — something Powell believes in.

In fact, I’m willing to bet Colin Powell has never spent more than three hours of his life listening to Rush Limbaugh and is, instead, playing to character. Powell has become a Republican of conventional wisdom, a black David Brooks — a Republican the media looks to to bash fellow Republicans.

Colin Powell believes in affirmative action policies that continue to divide the nation, he believes in unfettered abortion rights, he believes fiscal restraint by the government is unneeded, and he rejects individual rights in favor of group thought.. In short, Powell says Limbaugh “appeal[s] to our lesser instincts” to distract from Powell himself representing our lesser instincts.

Powell says “There is nothing wrong with being conservative. There is nothing wrong with having socially conservative views.” He just doesn’t want anyone actually talking about them.

COMMENTS

  • Shoebox

    as a “Republican.” While he may in fact have the card with his name on it, I would challenge him to take a public stance in favor of more than 50% of its platform…he couldn’t do it with a straight face. He’s as much a “Republican” as someone who claims Christianity and says “Yeah, that whole resurrection thing, not so much!”

  • NC_Red_State

    That we start referring to Colin Powell in proper context? The man is NOT a republican…he is not a conservative and he is not representative of any positive aspects of “the party”.

    He endorsed Obama. Can we really be suprised that he has opted to take a shot at Rush?

    Powell is a disappointment, his opinions carry no weight with me nor should they carry any with any conservative. I vote to completely ignore Colin Powell and dismiss him from any future conversations regarding “the party”, rebuilding it, and forging a solid conservative movement.

    Any seconds?

  • azaeroprof

    Colin Powell has clearly NEVER been a true Republican. I suspect that the only reason he ever registered as one is that he was coming up in the Army hierarchy at a time where it was politically expedient to be one.

    I believe in sticking with conservative principles while maintaining as big a tent as possible to help obtain governing majorities. But there isn’t enough room in any tent for Powell’s ego. I’m ashamed to have allowed myself to be suckered by him for so many years. He personifies the term RINO.

  • Cargosquid

    that Colin Powell IS a Republican, much less a conservative? He has never shown any political ideology other than going along with whichever administration is in power. Or coming to power. I have never seen him express any deeply help principles nor seen him take a stand. At best, Powell is an apolitical opportunist.

  • peg_c

    I’m quite sure if you put it to a general vote in the country, more would rather listen to Rush than to Powell. Some of us pay for the priviledge of listening to Rush at our own convenience. I haven’t heard anything from Powell worth hearing since the immediate post-9/11 era and even that I would never pay for.

    Powell is a political whore. He has no principles, no standards, and is a glib phony. He belongs with the Democrats. He targets Rush because Rush is King of the Conservatives. Powell is a liberal serf.

  • IkewasRight

    Now that CP has admitted what we’ve all known, he is in fact a liberal, I mean this shouldn’t really come as a suprise, he did endorse the One. The only thing I’m waiting for now is for W and Henry Paulsen to finally admit they’re both card carrying members of the UAW … Extremely disconcerting…

  • John E.

    When you say: ?Can we continue to listen to Rush Limbaugh? Is this really the kind of party that we want to be when these kinds of spokespersons seem to appeal to our lesser instincts rather than our better instincts??

    I ask: Do you want to eliminate people like me from the public debate? Apparently so. Because though I rarely listen to Rush, whenever I do I am thrilled to discover a rare voice powerfully publicizing the conclusions I have already come to.

    Mr. Powell, I think this comment of yours demonstrates your elitism, your presumption of superiority, your self-inflated right to marginalize those who disagree with your own personal political judgment. (And as Mayo pointed out, that critique applies to some of us as well).

  • peg_c

    What happened to Preview??

  • peg_c

    As a huge fan of Cheney I am beyond disgusted. I don’t care why he did it (I have my suspicions). He betrayed conservatives and capitalism.

    W’s 9/11 legacy stands for all time (and Cheney is to thank for that). Most of the rest of what he has done is a hideous disaster. He’s really not a compassionate conservative unless that is a euphemism for liberal – which Rush warned us of in the summer of 2000!

  • Streiff

    he campaigned for Bush in 2000

  • davidingeorgia

    …has never believed in anything other than advancing the career of Colin Powell, as far as I can tell. As always, he’s spouting stuff that he thinks will make him popular with the MSM and the rest of the chattering masses. Zero surprise here.

  • conservativemusician

    hide behind their military service to shield themselves from criticism. Oh, he’s so honorable. Oh he’s a hero…blah blah blah. I’m sick of it and others like him (i.e. Wesley Clark, etc.) who take advantage of the political winds and who support policies and politicians like Obama that undermine the troops they supposedly are defending. He is and always has been a RINO and his endorsement of Obama at the last minute was disgraceful. Rush, in the face of stiff opposition from both Dems and RINOs, has been consistent over the years in his proclamation of the true conservative message. Can Powell say this? Rush has not wavered in this pursuit and he has not compromised his principles for political expediency, so I say good riddance to Powell already.

  • conservativemusician

    hide behind their military service to shield themselves from criticism. Oh, he’s so honorable. Oh he’s a hero…blah blah blah. I’m sick of it and others like him (i.e. Wesley Clark, etc.) who take advantage of the political winds and who support policies and politicians like Obama that undermine the troops they supposedly are defending. He is and always has been a RINO and his endorsement of Obama at the last minute was disgraceful. Rush, in the face of stiff opposition from both Dems and RINOs, has been consistent over the years in his proclamation of the true conservative message. Can Powell say this? Rush has not wavered in this pursuit and he has not compromised his principles for political expediency, so I say good riddance to Powell already.

  • conservativemusician

    n/t

  • youthgrunt

    Another line in the blurb linked in the article caught my attention: “In an interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria for Sunday’s ‘GPS’ program, President Bush’s former secretary of state said his party’s attempt ‘to use polarization for political advantage’ backfired last month.”

    Yes, McCain’s attempt at polarization for political advantage failed, but Obama’s did not. He acts like polarization is a Republican or Rush thing, but Obama and the Democrats used it–and continue to use it–to a level of perfection that Republicans cannot even contemplate. Look at Obama’s alignment of McCain with Bush and treating the word “Bush” like it was an epithet. Or how about Obama’s class envy theme.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Powell = second-rate squish. No character, no principles.

  • NRPax

    Do you have anything approaching a quote that Rush said that backs up your use of his name as an example of polarization? Or were you just using his name since your echo chamber at CNN will go along with it?

  • http://crippy.me Crippy

    Powell sounds a “little” like John McCain.

  • Tbone

    NT

  • booksum

    I suspect most of you had that same initial thought.

    I know General Powell has an R next to his name but he endorsed Obama…

    Anyone supporting and voting for Obama that has an R next to his/her name is not speaking for me..

  • 10ksnooker

    Showed his character in full when he said he was lied to about his UN WMD speech. To believe that, you have to believe Powell is a dunce … hmmm.

  • Martin Knight

    That didn’t work out too well, now, did it?

  • Jaded

    You know social liberals who like a tax cut….call them whatever you want to just don’t call them conservative!

  • Marcus_Traianus

    Seems as though Mr. Powell opines gratuitously on the ethereal value of liberalism and demographic politics. One would believe those alleged “values” were addressed in the person of John McCain; certainly our parties most moderate candidate in ages.

    Yet reflexively Mr. Powell not only votes for Obama, but does so in a fashion which attempts to aggrandize his public persona and damage the Republican Party.

    I am curious who this self-indulgent, specious and intellectually irreconciable behavior plays to? Was his vote for Obama one based on racial factors or is it an attempt to destroy the party he somewhat curiously belongs to? Either seems plausible in the trail of evidentiary contra-intellectualism and, in my opinion, documentable self-absorbed mendacity.

    I would implore Mr. Powell to disavow his affiliation with our party. His actions are not only shameful, but reveal a lack of character and vision.

    This modus operandi has been proven a destructive force to our parties success and has no place in our future. We want to succeed based on values and a philosophy that appeals to all; not weaken them to target specific demographics. Perhaps Mr. Powell will recall the former is called leadership and ensures the continuation of a unique American culture.The latter is called contemptible, divisive liberalism and ensures not only the death of our party but also an abysymal future decline of our society.

  • renegade

    Powell was overrated right from his emergence into the spotlight in the 1991 gulf war. If memory serves me correct, Powell was against many aspects of the war, particularly the ground invasion. It was only when Bush 41 mandated the type of operation, Powell went along with it. It was Scwarzkopf’s tactical strategy that proved to be a resounding success. Unfortunatley much of the praise undeservedly went to Powell. If Powell was any other skin color the media wouldn’t have been fawning all over him. Powell competed his journey to the dark side after the media went ballistic on him for his UN presentation of Sadam’s WMD. Powell couldn’t take the love loss from the press so he had to pull a Benedict Arnold with the administrarion.

    This man is another Ariana Huffinton. He’ll soon be blogging the daily kos.

  • $peciallist

    W R E C S…Washed-up Republicans Exibiting Careless Stupidity..

    and by the way Barry….Where’s that WRECS…errrr….Republican you said you going to put in your Cabinet?..hmmm?

    Gates doesn’t count….

  • Russ Martin

    Powell was widely known in the Army as being an astute politician. Most officers that reach flag rank are. Some just take it to a different level – Powell and Clark are good examples.

    The problem with public servants (military officers and otherwise) is that are politicians first, is that they make decisions based on their own self interest, instead of on their convictions.

    While some would argue that Powell is a foreign policy conservative, he is clearly lacking in the other two legs of the stool – social and fiscal.

    It seems to me that for someone to consider themselves a Republican, they would need to be conservative in at least two of the three legs of the stool. (Those that are conservative in all three areas probably consider themselves to be conservatives first and Republicans second).

    Powell declared himself to be a Republican because that was the direction of the political wind when he declared. The wind has sinced changed and Powell is SHOCKED to find that there’s gambling going on at Rick’s Cafe Americain. Powell is skillful enough to adjust his sails – he even comes across to some as being “honorable” by doing so.

    Most conservatives find this behavior to be distasteful. Most liberals either don’t notice, or don’t care.

    By the way – I think Powell would look terrific in Captain Renault’s little frenchie hat!

  • RetNAV

    That’s what I’ve always thought. To believe that, one would have to believe that Powell never had any exposure to intelligence analysis.

    First, he was in the Army. Surely at some point in his career, through battalion, brigade, Corps, Pentagon, he worked in and with intelligence. Then he was NSA and then JCS. Finally, I’m sure State has it’s own intelligence operation and experts in interpretation.

    So, Powell would have had to have fallen prey to the most insidious, deceitful twisting of intelligence results ever known, or he thought, with all his experience and background, the intelligence presented to him was credible.

    For him to claim anything else just shows his lack of integrity in this case.

  • Jaded

    your excellent words….you know something like Obama and Cowell smacking intot each other!

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    It seems to me that for someone to consider themselves a Republican, they would need to be conservative in at least two of the three legs of the stool. (Those that are conservative in all three areas probably consider themselves to be conservatives first and Republicans second).

    There have been many conversations at RedState over the relationship between being a conservative and being a Republican. You’ve provided the best stated working formulation of the relationship between the two that I’ve seen. Well done!

  • gotteeth

    General,

    Can we now call you the “Maverick?”

    PS Do you have any ideas related to campaign finance reform?

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    Why the “reply to this” didn’t behave properly remains a mystery.

    Link to Russ Martin

  • Russ Martin

    I am the proverbial blind squirrel.

  • Russ Martin

    I am the proverbial blind squirrel.

  • fotophun

    since when do we need to listen to you CP??
    seems to me you are irrevlant..
    sorry to tell you but Rush speaks my language and you sir do not!!
    get a real job!!!
    Leftist newspapers around the country are going down the drain while Rush seems to survive..
    what does this tell you??
    no one wants to hear the leftist propaganda..
    and the ones that want to can no longer afford to purchase a paper

  • Thomas_Hauber

    If you look up RINO in the dictionary, you will find a picture of Colin Powell there.

    The Republican party should eject him for his support of Obama and his comments over the past year.

  • midnightduck

    comes from the great tradition of Socialist Generals in the Army. Making waves does not get you promoted to the political rank of general. (for further example see Shoomaker and Casey) The circles he runs in now he thinks just like. Most Army generals are only capable of group thought.

  • Darin_H

    during the whole Plame affair. He knew who the leaker was (his own subordinate) and yet let President Bush twist in the wind for over a year.

  • Whitehorse

    How many times have we heard Rush defend Powell & Rice against the hideously racist attacks from the far left & Democrats? To do this is dishonorable – bet we’ll never hear someone from the MSM ask Powell about this…

  • Jason

    He waited to officially back Obama to make sure McCain’s fate was sealed. Without having to worry about integrity, he’s free to support whoever’s coming into power.

    He hasn’t been firm about anything except that he’s going to waver. I’m glad he switched over. We can wipe the dust off our feet and tell him he’s welcome for the platform that launched him.

    He is neither conservative nor Republican. He’s a climber looking out for himself.

  • dsteiger

    It’s great to see all the Palin Rubes trashing Powell. The educated, intelligent, centrist, real world, NON NOT JOB Republicans realize what hanging around all you loonies has done to the party…If you like Limbaugh ( drug addicted, 4 times married 4 times divorced, lives alone with 3 cats ), then you must be part of the REAL AMERICA, right?. Uneducated, small town, hate anyone who is different crowd?.
    Yep Limbaugh?s a conservative alright, has his own CREEPY ?Do as I say not as I do? attitude just like the rest of the GOP bunch. Powell knows all to well he should have distanced himself from the Bush / Cheney war machine when it was blatantly & obvious LYING…ooops no WMD there, ooops Bin Laden not ?Dead or alive?, actually he?s quite alive?

    Whitehorse, what racist remarks from the left are you referring to?.

    This is fun to watch, the circling firing squad.

    Where can I send my contributions to the Palin / Joe the Plumber ( oops he?s actually not a plumber is he ) for 2012??
    Rubes for Plain!!!

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Now taking votes on what video to replace this comment with.

  • Aaron Gardner

    http://tinyurl.com/59emxt

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

    interesting how you lefties are such elitist snobs when you aren’t being all communist down with the proletariat and sechlike. can you dance to your hypocrisy?

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

    I don’t love you you don’t love me
    da da da

  • PopulistConservative

    “He?s a proponent of freedom, demands accountability, is a champion of the individual, and believes in equality of opportunity instead of the demeaning belief that the government should force all people to be equal at the lowest common denominator ? something Powell believes in.”
    Well, that’s vaguer than a party platform, and that’s saying something. Rush does stand for simplistic black/white conservative/liberal thinking. Its the type of thinking that does not critically apply principles to policy, but rather confuses principles with policy. I think it may be in part thanks to talk-radio that people don’t think about what tax level we should or what spending level we should, but have a knee jerk reaction that lower taxes and lower spending are always good. While I think Colin Powell made a mistake in who he supported this election, I think Republicans would definitely be well served to move away from paying attention to what talk radio says, and move to thinking about issues more critically .

  • NightTwister

    -nt-

  • mbecker908

    singing “It’s a Man’s World” but they don’t have the embed code for the darn thing. The link is here…

    Yeah, I had a hard time putting JB & P together too but it’s great.

  • PopulistConservative

    Yeah, in hindsight in would have been nice to have nominated someone like Fred Thompson who you all consider the perfect conservative, who we could have watched go down in greater flames than McCain. Thus putting to rest the idea that conservatives will always win. But I guess Republican primary voters still thought they would like to have the best shot at winning.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    This is Snowball, starring in (appropriately), ‘Another one bites the Dust’:

    snowball – another one bites the dust.

  • NightTwister

    Next thing you know you’ll be cheering on the SF 49ers.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Then I’ll go kiss whats-her-name Bartolo on the lips.

  • NightTwister

    We’ve already been down that road…

  • Martin Knight

    And whatever else, 2008 should serve as proof that there is no segment of the electorate that is into “Bipartisanship” or else McCain would certainly have done better.