Just got this in email. The leadership of the CRNC is coming out for Blackwell.
Tell ya what, I’ll give you my frank and candid thoughts later today on the subject. It’s sure to piss off everybody to one degree or another.
Members of the Republican National Committee:
After two difficult election cycles our party is at a crossroads. We have obligations to our ideals and our constituents to evaluate our strengths and weakness, successes and failures, and set ourselves on a path of renewal and revitalization. We must take this opportunity to elect a leader with a bold vision and the strength to carry it through. We need a leader that will stop allowing the Republican Party to surrender to the other party on campus and online. It is our opinion and the opinion of a large part of our organization that, of the many qualified candidates for RNC Chairman, the candidate best suited to take on these new challenges is Ken Blackwell.
Ken understands the importance of increasing our outreach to young and first time voters who will be making formative choices in the next few elections that will shape their voting habits for the rest of their lives. We cannot afford to continue to ignore an entire generation of voters. Ken also understands that we must increase our capabilities online if we’re going to inform and persuade voters effectively and remain competitive with Internet and email fundraising.
We believe that Ken Blackwell has the convictions to make him a great spokesman for our party and that he will drive us forward towards successes in elections at all levels of government. That belief is further strengthened after watching his performance in the debate yesterday. As the leaders of tomorrow’s Republican Party we respectfully ask that you consider supporting Ken and cast a vote for the next generation of Republicans.
Charlie Smith, National Chairman
Blake Harris, National Co-Chairman
Dan Carlson, National Secretary
Esther Clark, National Treasurer
Tom Jardon, Southern Vice-ChairmanJustin Zatkoff, Michigan College Republican Chairman
Taylor Hall, South Carolina College Republican Chairman
Lance Kennedy, Texas College Republican Chairman
Chandler Harris, Alabama College Republican Chairman
Ed Cox, Utah College Republican Chairman
Jeremy Hagen, Missouri College Republican Chairman
Rudy Perciful, Louisiana College Republican Chairman
Terence Grado, New Jersey College Republican Chairman
Matt Wharton, Arizona College Republican Chairman
Meagan Szydlowski, Illinois College Republican Chairman
Erica Castelo, Colorado College Republican Chairman
Richard Walters, Mississippi College Republican Chairman
Reece Hrizuk, Oregon College Republican Chairman
Brand Kroeger, District of Columbia College Republican Chairman

Then I guess I'm a Duncan/Steele guy
Jeff Emanuel Tuesday, January 6th at 12:54PM EST (link)Because the day I stop going exactly the opposite direction of the CRs is the day I lose my mind enough to think kids know anything about the real world (which likely means I’ve had even more blows to the head, and may need to be put down).
JE
College Republicans Aren't Just Average "College Kids"
IJB Tuesday, January 6th at 1:10PM EST (link)Which is basically to say that College Republicans are mostly more “with it” than almost any other segment of the college population.
More "with it" than the rest of the college population
zuiko Tuesday, January 6th at 2:00PM EST (link)That isn’t saying much.
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Funny I figured you would make basically that comment
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 1:45PM EST (link)before I even saw the comments- you’re rather predictable, JE. While no one would argue that young people are not lacking in useful real world experience I don’t think constant bashing of us is helpful to the party. It seems that some Republicans really do want us to be even more of old white guy’s party.
You are just proving his point (nt)
zuiko Tuesday, January 6th at 2:02PM EST (link)Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Wouldn't the proper way to address this issue be to weigh Blackwell v Steele, et al, rather
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, January 6th at 3:52PM EST (link)than attack College Republicans? Blackwell has been endorsed by many non-college republicans, especally after he so deftly dealt with the Duncan/Saltsman/Rush parody kerfuffle>
shamless self promotion
http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/01/06/rush-echoes-gamecock-on-magic-wasted-opportunity-by-gop/
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
Wouldn't the proper way to address this issue be to weigh Blackwell v Steele, et al, rather
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, January 6th at 3:52PM EST (link)than attack College Republicans? Blackwell has been endorsed by many non-college republicans, especally after he so deftly dealt with the Duncan/Saltsman/Rush parody kerfuffle>
shamless self promotion
http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/01/06/rush-echoes-gamecock-on-magic-wasted-opportunity-by-gop/
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
Jim Geraghty endorsed Blackwell on Dec 22 - LINK
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, January 6th at 4:13PM EST (link)http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZGQzNGI2NmE0Yjk5NDk3ZTVjZTk1ZTYzMjUxYWEwYjY=
see my numerous other comments in this thread for many other links of non-college repub endorsments
see also
http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/01/06/rush-echoes-gamecock-on-magic-wasted-opportunity-by-gop/
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
Also you should consider that its "kids"
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 1:51PM EST (link)the same age as the the college kids you deride who are fighting the wars for this country in the real world. If they’re old enough to choose to risk their lives and fight for this country, I think they’re old enough to know something about the real world.
That makes no sense whatsoever
aesthete Tuesday, January 6th at 4:46PM EST (link)I’m also a college student, and that comment is shamefully devoid of logic. “Knowing something” isn’t a right granted to you upon becoming of age to enlist in the Armed Forces, or any age really, it comes from experience and knowledge.
Not that I agree entirely with Jeff, but that’s another issue.
Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
-Ayn Rand
“I am a freeman in a free state!”
-Last words of Dumnorix, chieftan of the Aedui, 54 BC
I'll admit it was poorly worded
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 7:09PM EST (link)I guess my point is, that if young people are too young to understand anything about the real world, than are too young to be fighting for this country. I don’t think they are too young to be fighting for this country, therefore, I don’t think they’re too young to know something about the world. I think they if someone truly think what Jeff says, that college age people know nothing about the real world, than they should support upping the age for joining the military.
PopulistConservative...
Attack Mode Tuesday, January 6th at 7:16PM EST (link)I joined the military when I was 19 and I didn’t know spit about the world, for short years later i knew quite a bit more than any college student I knew…your argument still fails.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
I think people should know what they are fighting for
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 7:24PM EST (link)before they fight for it, that requires at least some understanding about the world. Obviously people will join the military who don’t know much about the world, but we shouldn’t have the minimum age for joining be an age when noone knows anything.
That is just an ignorant statement Populist...
Attack Mode Tuesday, January 6th at 7:32PM EST (link)Since when does the private get to choose what battles get fought…seriously…that was just dumb….all an enlistee needs to know how to do is put lead on the target and know his MOS backwards and forwards….as far as learning about the world, you get taught that while you are in by some damn fine NCO’s.
I am fine with listening to some CR’s but what you are crying about is just ridiculous.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
I disagree with you here
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 7:41PM EST (link)You’re right that you don’t need to know much to fight, but I’m not talking about what you need to know, I’m talking about what you should know. I recenty heard a book about a NAZI German soldier who faught on the Russian front. He was a decent guy, but had no idea what he was fighting for. Think about how many millions of soldiers who helped to make Germany be the terror of the 20th century, didn’t know what they were fighting for.
Were you ever in the military Populist?...nt
Attack Mode Tuesday, January 6th at 7:46PM EST (link)“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
No. NT.
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 7:57PM EST (link)NT
Ok Populist, with that in mind...let me clue you in on something..
Attack Mode Tuesday, January 6th at 8:08PM EST (link)Before going on any mission, even just a training mission, all the participants are breifed on where they are going and why they are going there. This not only involves specific mission objective but the broad vision of what is being accomplished.
Further more while in Basic training recruits have quite a bit of classroom time where they are given a bit of military history and general American history. Any young man who comes out of basic ignorant as to what he is supposed to be fighting for is willfully ignorant.
Additionally we have an all volunteer military, which means that those who volunteered had a general understanding of what they were getting in to.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
I never said our soldiers were ignorant of what they are fighting for
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 8:16PM EST (link)I just the think the fact that they’re old enough to know what they’re fighting for, means they can have an understanding of the world. But maybe we have two different definitions of “understanding the world”.
Ok Populist...let's continue this a bit more...
Attack Mode Tuesday, January 6th at 8:25PM EST (link)My belief is that those who join the military do so , in part, in order to receive an understanding of the world by being thrust into it. You, for some reason, are saying that because they are old enough to fight they have an understanding of the world, or at least they should.
Regardless of all of this the point is that age does not constitute understanding or lack of, but those who join the military as opposed to those who go to college, have a greater chance of having an understand of the world.
Comprende?
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Then shut up about it, Populist!
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, January 6th at 8:31PM EST (link)I don’t think anything irritates me more than a life-long civilian bloviating about the military, military people or anything else military. YOU HAVE NO FREAKING CLUE! Aaron is correct, down thread. Our military is the most educated in history (contrary to claims of limp weenies like John Kerry), and they know exactly why they are fighting. They, as a group, are probably more aware of world affairs than 99% of the American electorate.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
A Kowalski
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, January 6th at 8:32PM EST (link)And, yeah, 22 years, Combat Engineer, 1SG Ret
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
When did I say anything criticizing the military's level of education!
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 8:40PM EST (link)You won’t find a stronger supporter of the millitary than me, among civilians. I never said those in the military don’t know why they are fighting, or that they don’t know world affairs. As a matter of fact I was making just the opposite claim. It was not me who said those of millitary and college age don’t know anything about the world.
Populist, are you bipolar?
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, January 6th at 8:45PM EST (link)Or do you not read what you write?
“You’re right that you don’t need to know much to fight, but I’m not talking about what you need to know, I’m talking about what you should know. I recenty heard a book about a NAZI German soldier who faught on the Russian front. He was a decent guy, but had no idea what he was fighting for.”
What’s the insinuation here?
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
The insinuation is that is that bad things happen when people don't know who they're fighting for
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 8:49PM EST (link)not that such is the case with the military of the United States of America.
You conflated the to groups Populist...
Attack Mode Tuesday, January 6th at 8:46PM EST (link)That is the issue Populist…one is knowledgeable and one isn’t, when you conflate the two based on similar age ranges when enlisted, or in the case of college accepted, you unintentionally infer that both are uninformed of how the world works rather than just admitting that college age kids are ignorant as a whole…though exceptions do indeed exist.
Next time don’t lump the two groups together and you can avoid the whole silly mess.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
I think you're definitely right that as a whole
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 9:00PM EST (link)college kids are extremely ignorant when it comes to politics, and probably also when it comes to practical living in the world skills, I’ll admit I don’t understand the issues nearly as well I’d like too, though I’d say I’m probably more knowledgable than a great deal of the general populace on politics - though certainly not as wise as my seniors. My point is simply that just because one is young does not automaticly mean that he or she has no understanding, and the fact that we have soldiers fighting for this country that know what they’re fighting for illustrates this point. That doesn’t mean that all young people are informed, it just means that being young doesn’t mean you must definitely be uninformed.
And yes I believe the military is an excellent unrivaled way to learn about the real world. I just think some knowledge of it is good before one chooses to fight.
Again Populist...that last sentence is troublesome...
Attack Mode Tuesday, January 6th at 9:06PM EST (link)“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Well, the only way I reallly mean to conflate the two groups
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 9:18PM EST (link)is in the sense that both are young, and just because one is young does not mean one is incapble of knowing something about the world. Those who join the military may be much more likely to know about the world than those who do not, but my point is simply that youth in and of itself. does not make one absolutely ignorant about the world.
You're correct populist, I apologize.
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, January 6th at 8:54PM EST (link)I jumped in mid thread based on some comments you had previously made on another thread. You have not besmirched the intellect of our troops. But, once again, Aaron is correct down thread. Just because young enlistees are educated and aware of world affairs and the difference between liberalism and conservatism, doesn’t mean college students can be lumped in with them.
It’s not an accident that most polls show that 85% of the enlisted members lean conservative, they are realists.
Can the same be said of college students?
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Apology accepted.
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 9:12PM EST (link)You’re right that enlisted people are a completely different kind of people than college kids ( accepting of course college kids who have served in the military.)
College kids do generally range from completely politcally apathetic ( the overwhelming majority, I believe,) and the liberals,( I felt like Ron Paul must have felt like in the GOP debates, when I debated politics in my Comparitive Politics class.)l however, just because they are young doesn’t mean that there is no knowledge of the world, it makes it more likely, I’m just arguing that being young doesn’t make incapable of getting some things right, as I think our young soldiers illustrate.
Also, I imagine you will find more than 85% of CR’s lean conservative.
Gee
Mayhem Tuesday, January 6th at 1:53PM EST (link)That’s the way to stop the conservative bleeding among the youth in this country. Keep up the great work!
“I reject your reality and substitute my own.”
Oh stop it.
asleep06 Tuesday, January 6th at 2:13PM EST (link)Part of the problem that college-aged Republicans generally share with their peers is an inability to shrug off insults in a good-humored way.
So Jeff Emmanuel doesn’t have a high opinion of the CRs. Why must it follow that you (and the others) play the I’m Offended by the Hurtful Comment! card instead of having the wisdom and humility to recognize there’s some truth to his point and the heart to take a hit good-naturedly.
Instead, you contribute to proving his point. And for the record, I’m in the age-group that JE is talking about.
The liberals whine about harsh and hurtful criticism and are offended all the freaking time. Let’s not follow in their childishness.
Small is beautiful.
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bs Tuesday, January 6th at 2:19PM EST (link)Furthermore, I think even most in your age bracket would agree that there is some degree of real-world wisdom that is lacking in their/your existence. That is simple logic - the older, the more life experience. However, there is also the fact that people in your age group simply have a different perspective, whether that be due to youthful optimism, university propaganda brainwashing (I have a freshman son - I’m hearing about it now…), and just sheer differing experiences. Now Jeff’s not that old either, so it’s not like he’s an old fart like me…so I think he can probably see both sides of the coin pretty clearly.
So the thing to do is, as you say, take it good-naturedly, and also work to morph the impression that some of us have of mush-filled youth brains… ;-).
Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys
Prominent non-college GOP leaders endorse Blackwell
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, January 6th at 3:57PM EST (link)http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2009/01/03/conservative-leaders-endorse-ken-blackwell-for-rnc-chair/
not to mention Gamecock
http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/01/06/rush-echoes-gamecock-on-magic-wasted-opportunity-by-gop/
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
I have great respect for my seniors
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 3:33PM EST (link)and share some of the cynicism about young people that JE has. I just happen to think JE ( for one thing he’s just way too predictable :-)) goes too far. If college age kids are too stupid to ever know anything about the real world than they are too stupid to be allowed to fight for this country.
Granted. (nt)
asleep06 Tuesday, January 6th at 3:41PM EST (link)nt
Small is beautiful.
Oh stop it.
asleep06 Tuesday, January 6th at 2:13PM EST (link)Part of the problem that college-aged Republicans generally share with their peers is an inability to shrug off insults in a good-humored way.
So Jeff Emmanuel doesn’t have a high opinion of the CRs. Why must it follow that you (and the others) play the I’m Offended by the Hurtful Comment! card instead of having the wisdom and humility to recognize there’s some truth to his point and the heart to take a hit good-naturedly.
Instead, you contribute to proving his point. And for the record, I’m in the age-group that JE is talking about.
The liberals whine about harsh and hurtful criticism and are offended all the freaking time. Let’s not follow in their childishness.
Small is beautiful.
Don't confuse college Republicans with College Republicans (nt)
Neil Stevens Tuesday, January 6th at 2:19PM EST (link)Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis
Good point
bs Tuesday, January 6th at 2:20PM EST (link)I made that mistake recently
Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys
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Jeff Emanuel Tuesday, January 6th at 2:38PM EST (link)JE
HUGE list of non college/College Republicans endorsing Blackwell
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, January 6th at 3:58PM EST (link)Mike Gamecock DeVine
http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/01/06/rush-echoes-gamecock-on-magic-wasted-opportunity-by-gop/
Politico link
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0109/Top_conservatives_back_Blackwell.html
Here’s the full list of conservatives who are endorsing Blackwell today:
Gary Aldrich, Chairman, CNP Action Inc.
Morton C. Blackwell, Virginia Republican National Committeeman
Robert B. Bluey, Contributing Editor, RedState
L. Brent Bozell, Founder and President, Media Research Center
Kellyanne Conway, CEO and President, the polling company, inc./WomanTrend
T. Kenneth Cribb Jr., Former Domestic Adviser to President Reagan
James C. Dobson, Ph.D., Founder and Chairman, Focus on the Family
Becky Norton Dunlop, President, Council for National Policy
Stuart W. Epperson, Chairman, Salem Communications Corp.
Steve Forbes, Chairman & CEO, Forbes Media
Dr. Ronald Godwin, Vice Chancellor, Liberty University
Rebecca Hagelin, Author and Conservative Columnist
Colin Hanna, President, Let Freedom Ring
David Keene, Chairman, American Conservative Union
Tim LaHaye, Founder and President, Tim LaHaye Ministries
Ed Meese, Past President, Council for National Policy
James C. Miller, Past President, Council for National Policy
Tony Perkins, President Family Research Council
Ken Raasch, Chairman & CEO, Creative Brands Group
Alfred S. Regnery, Publisher, The American Spectator
Phyllis Schlafly, President, Eagle Forum
Pat Toomey, President, Club for Growth
Richard Viguerie, Chairman, ConservativeHQ.com
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
Did you have spam for lunch or something?
bs Tuesday, January 6th at 8:49PM EST (link)Posting the same link 3 times in the thread’s a bit of overkill, dude.
Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys
When I was a campus CR president
AHALgal Tuesday, January 6th at 10:30PM EST (link)I was 29 years old, owned a small technology company, and the was most conservative member of my political science graduating class.
I campaigned against the entire Model UN debate team. In my opinion, their very presence at my university was a disgrace.
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I really support Steele
kowalski Tuesday, January 6th at 2:05PM EST (link)I know Ken Blackwell is qualified also, but I think Steele would be a much better choice for the Republcians in this cycle.
He’s black.
But that’s not all Michael Steele is: he’s also someone who suffered the slings and arrows as the Republican Senate candidate in Maryland and ran a fantastic campaign despite the mud being slung at him.
I’m not interested in Blackwell, frankly.
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When I really think about the choice between
kowalski Tuesday, January 6th at 2:09PM EST (link)When I really think about the choice between Blackwell and Steele, it might be that the College Republicans are a little too young to remember just how much baloney Steele had to put up with during his Senate campaign in Maryland. Given the choice between them, and having lived in Baltimore myself, I side with Mike.
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But a College Republican endorsement...
Jeff Emanuel Tuesday, January 6th at 3:03PM EST (link)…MAKES A DIFFERENCE!! Don’t you know ANYTHING?!?!1/!?1?1!
JE
It is a close call. The tipping point for me was Blackwell's deft handling of the Saltsman matter
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, January 6th at 4:00PM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/01/06/rush-echoes-gamecock-on-magic-wasted-opportunity-by-gop/
I had been backing Steele since before the election.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
Many of the college age Republicans
Old_Crow Tuesday, January 6th at 2:11PM EST (link)I have come across are more conservative then their parents (and many other folks my age who call themselves conservative). My experience is based on over 5 years recruiting for the military in the NYC area and working in college admissions since then.
I have more faith in them then I do in my generation of aging baby boomers worried over how much they’re going to ‘get’ from social security and other gov’ment programs.
“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison
“So this is how liberty dies.. with thunderous applause” — Star Wars III
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IJB Tuesday, January 6th at 4:56PM EST (link)I guess some people around here just don’t like “yoots”…
Nah
zuiko Tuesday, January 6th at 7:02PM EST (link)It’s just that we were all “yoots” at one point and we can look back and remember how much we didn’t know at that age but thought we knew.
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Blackwell v. Steele
Steve W Tuesday, January 6th at 2:24PM EST (link)Having enjoyed Eric’s introduction of the Blackwell Plan - and then reading the actual plan I’d have to say that I like that he HAS a plan - and that I can agree and support most of it as a way for Republicans to go forward and begin winning elections, and having a positive impact on this country, again.
I’m not sure that the College Republicans backing him would effect my support one way or another. But good for them if they’ve read his plan and subscribe to his presentation of what needs to be done.
Showing my ignorance, however - has Steele propounded his own plan - and if he has - where is it so that I can compare and contrast?
The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated.
- Ronald Reagan
The Steele Plan
Bubba38 Tuesday, January 6th at 4:34PM EST (link)Steele’s multi-part plan (Chapters 1-3 have been pubished since early December) can be found here: http://www.steeleforchairman.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76&Itemid=155
College Repubs stumble into GC's recommended decision
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, January 6th at 2:45PM EST (link)I switched from Steele to Blackwell last week
http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2008/12/30/blackwell-echos-gamecock-defends-saltsman-and-rush-parody/
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
I'm already PO'd, Erick,
MORepublican Tuesday, January 6th at 3:42PM EST (link)at other political items. I don’t need something additional to raise my blood pressure.
Jeff, is it just a lack of real life experience that constitutes your opinion of the CRs? Truly interested, because the CRs I volunteered with and who attend the Young Republicans meetings (when classes are not in session) are very informed and passionate about Republican activities and its future. From the discussion, the CRs I know do not sound like the CRs everyone else knows.
Most don’t have “life” experience, granted, but I only got involved in politics a mere 5 years ago. Although not a CR (I am a member of the Young Republicans in central Missouri), I probably have less political experience than most of the people listed in support of Blackwell. Several of the CRs I know have been doing the activist thing longer than me. Should my opinion have more clout simply because I’ve been out of college for 10 years and had to face the “real world”, even though I don’t have as extensive a political background? Should my opinion not be taken seriously as well, although I donate my time and skills to Republican candidates, just like the CRs?
Also, a couple of the CRs I know are Iraq veterans. So just because they are College Republicans doesn’t mean they are college-aged kids or know squat about what life is like outside a campus setting.
My beef with several comments is that it is a generalization of CRs, when my experience with the Mizzou CR group is nothing like what has been stated. I know others’ experiences are different, and may be justified, but I am sticking up for the CRs I know.
If you want to disagree with the CRs, fine, but do it by refuting why Blackwell is not the person for the RNC Chair (which has been done), instead of dismissing the CRs out of hand.
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5. And note that MORepublican got his point to Jeff across without the "I'm Offended" card. [nt]
Martin Knight Tuesday, January 6th at 6:40PM EST (link)Who said they were offended
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 7:00PM EST (link)I don’t recall that being said.
Fine. MORepublican got his point across without whining. [nt]
Martin Knight Tuesday, January 6th at 7:10PM EST (link)Whatever, that's a very subjective call NT.
PopulistConservative Tuesday, January 6th at 7:14PM EST (link)NT.
OK. I like Blackwell.
itrytobenice Tuesday, January 6th at 10:26PM EST (link)I want to know if there is any reason I shouldn’t.
Actually, I’d be pleased with Steele, Blackwell or Saul.
Now, I’ll admit, I’m a little leery of Saul because MI sucks so bad, but I know I can’t blame that on him just because I don’t know why there is no candle power up there.
The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
What a great way to push the youth right away from the Republican party
Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 10:35AM EST (link)If I am not mistaken, every one of those vying for the RNC Chair position are trying to attract the young/college age group, yet here we dismiss them as being kids and not having enough life experiences to know that the Republican party is the best party to represent all Americans. We seem to have been doing the same thing with minorities- is it because they are not smart enough either? It seems some Republicans push away those very same we are trying to attract.
What a great way to push the youth right away from the Republican party
Scope Wednesday, January 7th at 10:35AM EST (link)If I am not mistaken, every one of those vying for the RNC Chair position are trying to attract the young/college age group, yet here we dismiss them as being kids and not having enough life experiences to know that the Republican party is the best party to represent all Americans. We seem to have been doing the same thing with minorities- is it because they are not smart enough either? It seems some Republicans push away those very same we are trying to attract.
Scope, I don't think vague accusations ar ethe way to go here...
Attack Mode Wednesday, January 7th at 10:44AM EST (link)Nobody is pushing anyone away here…Jeff made a comment intended to be humorous nothing more.
All these hurt feelings being tossed about are just silly.
What really pisses me off though are the vague accusations of racism within you post, when you insinuate that we here at RS, either as FP contributors or just reg members, believe that minorities “are not smart either” you do more harm than good.
The bottom line is that 18-22 year old college students in general don’t have a solid grasp of the real world, the workforce, geopolitical goals, or just about anything else. How you then conflate this to infer that our opinion is the same with minorities is beyond idiotic.
Please don’t do that again.
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