Specter, Snowe, and Collins Premise Their Vote on a Lie


Arlen, Olympia, and Susan sold out America and voted for the stimulus.

Arlen Specter went on Sean Hannity’s show and said John McCain was wrong. The stimulus, according to Arlen, is $780 billion, not the $827 billion McCain said.

Collins said

she could not support a bill as large as the $819.5 billion package passed by the House last week.

“We don’t want a package that is too small because that will end up just wasting money. On the other hand, we’re very leery of having an enormous package that would not be necessary and would just boost the federal deficit,” Collins told CNN as Nelson nodded in agreement.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, in a statement released as the voting was happening in the Senate, the total bill costs $838.2 billion.

So Specter, Collins, and Snowe all voted for a bill that is larger than any one of them claimed it was or wanted.

Will they vote for the final version then? Bigger question: will they vote before the CBO releases an estimate on the conference version?

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Santorum? Toomey?

Return to Revolution Monday, February 9th at 9:13PM EST (link)

As a resident of PA, I am anxious to send Snarlin’ Arlin packing. Specter apparently thinks PA is too blue to stomach a Republican with a hint of principle (he certainly wasn’t thinking of whats best for the country). For what its worth I have been rather disengaged during the Bush years. Can’t say how much of that applies to all PA voters but we’ll find out in 2010.

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Oh...did you know Specter, Snowe, and Collins are thoughtfull Republicans...

AceInTX Monday, February 9th at 9:14PM EST (link)

Those so called socially moderate, fiscally conservative north eastern Republicans that are our only hope as Republicans of ever winning elections again?

Ohh…and they’re the ringmasters of the circus that is the RMSP….but I’ve already said that a thousand times haven’t I?

Where are all those squishes that were so busy pounding and pummeling us for excluding the supposed fiscal conservative social moderates before the elections and whining about circular firing squads now? Ohh and best of all…where are all those spouting off that we need these people to stop the Democrats from getting to 60? As if having these guys on our side meant anything anyway!

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Oh...and true to form...they crafted their "compromise"

AceInTX Monday, February 9th at 9:21PM EST (link)

after support for this travesty had hit 37% approval with the public…

Am I stupid or is this like a bad dream that just keeps repeating itself in an endless loop…Republicans gain their footing and make progress against the Democrats…along come this bunch and yanks the rug out…Republicans gain their footing and make progress against the Democrats…along come this bunch and yanks the rug out…Republicans gain their footing and make progress against the Democrats…along come this bunch and yanks the rug out…Republicans gain their footing and make progress against the Democrats…along come this bunch and yanks the rug out…Republicans gain their footing and make progress against the Democrats…along come this bunch and yanks the rug out…Republicans gain their footing and make progress against the Democrats…along come this bunch and yanks the rug out…Republicans gain their footing and make progress against the Democrats…along come this bunch and yanks the rug out…Republicans gain their footing and make progress against the Democrats…along come this bunch and yanks the rug out

DADDY….PLEASE MAKE THEM STOP THE RIDE….I WANT TO GET OFF!!!

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remember when moderate Republicans meant fiscal "conservative" but social liberal?

JSobieski Monday, February 9th at 9:34PM EST (link)

Well, another myth is dispelled.

Frankly, I am a bit surprised that no democrats crossed the line on this one. I mean, we are talking about the biggest decision to waste money in all of human history.

Not exactlly fiscally responsible, much less conservative.


That canard has always been a lie...

AceInTX Monday, February 9th at 9:48PM EST (link)

it’s just that no one has ever bothered to challenge the falsehood

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I know it was always crap (look at Arnold for another example)

JSobieski Monday, February 9th at 10:01PM EST (link)

but the point is worth making. People need to be reminded that “moderate” Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats will ultimately NOT stand up and oppose a bill that the majority of Americans oppose.


I agree...this was so predictable it'd be funny if it wasn't so enfuriating!

AceInTX Monday, February 9th at 11:15PM EST (link)

This is just the beginning…watch the slime bags line up to confirm every one of Obama’s judges after helping the Democrats block Bush’s over the last eight years!

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If they voted for this piece of crap...

Fred Maidment Monday, February 9th at 11:27PM EST (link)

…one could hardly call them “fiscally conservative.”

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But that's the point isn't it?

AceInTX Tuesday, February 10th at 2:58PM EST (link)

These are the very people the big tent crowd has beaten us about the head over as people we need to emulate to attract Moderates and independents when the truth is, they are radical pro choice fiscal liberals that serve no useful purpose to the Republican Party or freedom loving limited government pro life conservatives what so ever…my only surprise is that Voinovich, McCain, Graham and the rest of the unprincipled crap weasels in the Rockefeller wing didn’t join them in the vote…of course…we’re only a month into the Obama presidency and I’m sure they’ll make up for it soon enough!

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Wished I 'd said that! 5 nt

olsmithie Tuesday, February 10th at 3:40PM EST (link)
 
 
 

The Senate-House <s>Rodeo</s> Recon Song

6eorge Jetson Monday, February 9th at 9:40PM EST (link)

Well it’s forty y’know
With a little bit of pluck
But for three traitor schmuck
So we’re off to the recon. O!

It’s an all-too-far left
And adios right
C’mon you three dummies
Get your right vote right
Get offstage you RINO goofs, y’know…
You tick me off
You stupid jerks
Get on my nerves

Well here comes Arlen
With his hat in his hand
He’s an Obama man
And he’s off to the recon. O!

It’s an all-too-far left
And adios right
C’mon you three dummies
Get your right vote right
Get offstage you RINO goofs, y’know…
You tick me off
You stupid jerks
Get on my nerves

 

Stupid stupid stupid.

Praying Monday, February 9th at 11:19PM EST (link)

What’s all this I hear about the intellectual elite in the Northeast? Of course, in their defense, those are really BIG number they’re talking about. They don’t even fit on your basic TI calculator. Of course, if any of them had had any advanced math or science courses, they would have heard of exponents. So if you can’t figure it out in your head, you can still use your calculator to do the math. Unless you’re an intellectual elite from the Northeast. What other excuse do you have for not being able to understand that $838,200,000,000 is BIGGER than $819,500,000,000? It’s like this: 8.38 E11 > 8.20 E11. But hey, I’m just a red neck from Tennessee.

 

Hate to say I told you so, well Actually I love to do that

kyle8 Monday, February 9th at 11:26PM EST (link)

I was on this site and others saying that if the Democrats got 60 votes, 59 or 58 really did not matter, They could always peel off enough rino votes to get whatever they wanted.

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Hey...That's not fair....I wanted to say I told you so first...nt

AceInTX Tuesday, February 10th at 3:29PM EST (link)

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OH! I'm so sorry, Arlen.

bs Monday, February 9th at 11:37PM EST (link)

It’s only $780B instead of $870B? Gosh. That just totally changed my mind. A whole $90B less? Wow. I was so wrong.

:rolls eyes several times:

Decorum is fo’ suckas

 

Wait, what the hell is this???

asleep06 Tuesday, February 10th at 12:06AM EST (link)

This is news to me. Has anyone heard about this?? :

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health provisions slipped in without discussion. These provisions reflect the handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department.

Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH, pdf version).

The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.

But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

Keeping doctors informed of the newest medical findings is important, but enforcing uniformity goes too far.

New Penalties

Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)

What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.

The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

Small is beautiful.

We'll be finding out for he fist time 6 years from now onl about 50% of what they snuck though on this! nt

AceInTX Tuesday, February 10th at 3:32PM EST (link)

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I hate this keyboard nt

AceInTX Tuesday, February 10th at 5:15PM EST (link)

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