The Fairness Doctrine Returns. It Just Won’t Be Called That.


Here we go folks.

The Fairness Doctrine is going to make a comeback under the Obama administration. It just won’t be via Congress and it won’t be called the “Fairness Doctrine.” It’ll come via the FCC, involve restrictions on media ownership and content, and it’ll apply to the internet too.

As Brian Darling noted, the administration and leftists in Congress will be using the Center for American Progress’s outline.

From the Prowler:

“This isn’t just about Limbaugh or a local radio host most of us haven’t heard about,” says Democrat committee member. “The FCC and state and local governments also have oversight over the Internet lines and the cable and telecom companies that operate them. We want to get alternative views on radio and TV, but we also want to makes sure those alternative views are read, heard and seen online, which is becoming increasingly video and audio driven. Thanks to the stimulus package, we’ve established that broadband networks — the Internet — are critical, national infrastructure. We think that gives us an opening to look at what runs over that critical infrastructure.”

Here’s the gist of what’ll happen. Congress will restrict how many stations a company can own in a market. They’ll also require advisory boards for each station and make it easier to address consumer complaints against stations.

One of the requirements will be diversity of ideas on the air, so if a company is just broadcasting Rush Limbaugh on all stations in a state, consumers can file complaints. Likewise, the advisory boards’ demands will have to be adhered to by the stations.

If the stations’ advisory boards are filled with liberals who demand Rush Limbaugh be taken off the air, the station will have to comply in order to keep its license.

In addition, there’s this:

Also involved in “brainstorming” on “Fairness Doctrine and online monitoring has been the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank, which has published studies pressing for the Fairness Doctrine, as well as the radical MoveOn.org, which has been speaking to committee staff about policies that would allow them to use their five to six million person database to mobilize complaints against radio, TV or online entities they perceive to be limiting free speech or limiting opinion.

So it’ll no longer be what the market wants. It’ll be what the left demands.

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Rush said he has a plan for this

Scope Monday, February 16th at 9:21AM EST (link)

I think he is going to talk about his plan this week.

Not if but when this happens, there will be no advertisers who will support any of the Liberal stations, just as Air America and PBR have never been able to support themselves with advertising dollars. Heard someone say this weekend that the Libs cannot take all and any callers, as the Conservative stations do, because they can’t back up their arguments, and they get run over with the truth and facts.

Someone in the past said if the fairness doctrine came about for the internet, they would move their servers off shore. Would they block access then as the Chicoms do?

 

Time to Break Out My Shortwave Radio

JX12 Monday, February 16th at 9:25AM EST (link)

Well, here’s hoping Rush sails out into international waters and broadcasts from there…

…or something. At any rate, in this country, people WILL come up with innovative ways to get around this - legally, at that - and get the word out. Of course, I don’t put it past the left to try to make WHATEVER we do illegal. And then we’ll find creative ways to get around that, too.

At some point, though, this will almost certainly come back to bite the left. It’s just a question of when.

Radio Free America!

olsmithie Monday, February 16th at 11:07PM EST (link)

Won’t be my first pirate station , Sign me on the engineering staff!

Regards

Unfortunately the Shortwave will not be off-limits to the Democrats...

DONTREADONME Monday, February 16th at 11:11PM EST (link)

If they will dictate to the interent like China does to Google what is to stop them on all frequencies of the Electromagnetic Spectrum. Pretty soon we will have to get on the light frequency spectrum or sneak in the THz.

“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth

Shortwave

bs Monday, February 16th at 11:16PM EST (link)

Interesting writeup here

For the record, I’ve been a shortwave listener for decades, and I would welcome anything that would boost its popularity again!

Decorum is fo’ suckas

It is a real shame that the Democrats will tread on every band of the EM spectrum...

DONTREADONME Monday, February 16th at 11:24PM EST (link)

unfortunately, we are powerless to stop it even on the short wave spectrum. The good news is it will take some time for the FCC to acquire the power to affect the SW spectrum; however, once the UHF and VHF becomes free after the conversion to all digital we will have those bands until they are allocated to something. The unfortunate part for the Government is they will be behind getting to other frequencies of the EM spectrum in a timely manner; however, expect frequency piracy to commence especially if people feel they are being intentionallly silenced by Government. Radio-Free America, who would have ever thought, just do not give out your frequency.

“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth

 
 
 
 
 

The barbarians at the gate

EagleWatcher Monday, February 16th at 9:26AM EST (link)

For all those in the pundit class who say that this is just a normal swing of the political pendulum and in 8 years it’ll swing back our way I say simply: you’re kidding yourselves!

Christopher Buckley was wrong! Obama will not back away from his Leftist Utopian ideology now that he’s in office. He’s going to do just what he said he was going to do in spite of his early fumbles.

Why do we have such a hard time believing what the Left is going to do when they spell it out for us in big bold print?

Wake up, Bill Kristol. Wake up, Peggy Noonan. Wake up, David Brooks! Wake up Michael Medved!

55555

Flagstaff Monday, February 16th at 6:24PM EST (link)

Absolutely right.

Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!

 
 

Let's call it what it really is....

The_Rebel Monday, February 16th at 9:30AM EST (link)

Fascism in America.

Fascism in America

izoneguy Monday, February 16th at 6:34PM EST (link)

Yes it is - and the left was calling Bush a Fascist -

they really need to find out the definition of Fascism.

Obama = Fascism

“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson

 
 

I argued just this point

barry915barry Monday, February 16th at 9:35AM EST (link)

in a previous comment. (no, Can’t find it.). The gist of which is this is the lefts attempt at a legal end runaround the 1st amendment. I personally believe that public sentiment IS turning against this though. Will our party in Congress have the backbone from stopping this? If it is just the FCC, then we as conservatives need to bombard them during the “open comment period.

 

Looks like jobs in radio aren't part of the 4 million being saved..nt.

NightTwister Monday, February 16th at 9:36AM EST (link)

Believe when they say...

alanh Monday, February 16th at 10:09AM EST (link)

A Holocaust survivor was once asked what was the greatest lesson he learned from her experience under the Nazis. She replied: “When someone says they’re going to finish you off, you better believe them.”

The Left is not interested in political discourse or debate. They have nothing but contempt for political opponents. And Politics. There is a reason why in his campaign speeches Obama derided “politics as usual” or “remaking America.” Like their fascist predecessors on the Left searching for Sonderweg, these people are not interested in politics - the give and take of democracy. Their simple desire is to undermine our republic as we know it. I will never forget what Michelle Obama said about “not being proud of her country” or Barak not holding his hand on his heart during the anthem. These are very important indications - not to be ignored or played down as ephemeral flashes of emotion. They tell you something very important about the person’s deepest, innermost beliefs about America and its ideals. And those beliefs, my friends, will come through in all of Obama’s actions as a President - from welfare, lack of transparency, fairness doctrine, to foreign policy and more.

 

Obama is probably working with Google

Old_Crow Monday, February 16th at 10:31AM EST (link)

to tweek their search software and make it more ‘fair’. This won’t end with just talk radio, the internet is a very juicy target too. The first wall was breached when Congress allowed taxing, which is defacto regulation of the internet. The next wall is content, defining and regulating ‘hate speech’ (opposing points of view are now unpatriotic).

We need to be prepared to fight this on all fronts.

“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison
“So this is how liberty dies.. with thunderous applause” — Star Wars III

All uproar against "hate speech" leaves me cold.

Flagstaff Monday, February 16th at 6:12PM EST (link)

Isn’t that just the extreme end of the free speech that the Constitution protects?

Quit using Google ans go to Ask or something else.

Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!

 
 

Surely even liberals will fight this

posterposter Monday, February 16th at 10:44AM EST (link)

Surely most Americans still retain the ability to think for themselves. Surely the left is not so driven by partisan politics that they will stand up for this garbage when it is the antithesis of what they profess to believe.

posterposter, I wouldn't count on their support in this.

janis Monday, February 16th at 11:22AM EST (link)

They want nothing more than to make us shut up for good, and, even better, we should give up on ever regaining power in this country and just submit to their will because they are always right and we are always wrong. And that’s just the way it is.

My personal plan is to fight them in every way possible, put a stick in their spokes on any and every occasion, thumb my nose at them (a la Rahmbo on inauguration day), and just generally hearken back to those days of yore when we told King George III to stick it. Let the revolution begin.

In a report on Hugo Chavez, "Presidente for Life,"

Flagstaff Monday, February 16th at 6:20PM EST (link)

in Venezuela today, reporter Steve Harrigan mentioned that when you control all the media, the jobs, the sources of energy, and the military, you don’t have much to worry about.

We can only hope the military will protect us from the Democrats (if they’re dumb enough to try to eliminate term limits to keep running Clinton and Obama for President).

Viva la Second Amendment!

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What? (nt)

Neil Stevens Monday, February 16th at 6:22PM EST (link)

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There Is No Crisis

Just a comparison

Flagstaff Monday, February 16th at 7:20PM EST (link)

of the situation in Venezuela with the situation the libs would like to have here.

Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!

You can tell how much conservative

redneck_hippie Monday, February 16th at 7:29PM EST (link)

talk and internet thwarts the Libs by just how badly they want to eliminate it.

If Levin, Hannity, Rush, Coulter, et al weren’t socialist kryptonite, the libs wouldn’t waste time on trying to get rid of them. It will not be incremental like health care and immigration. They’re going to go for it all because to eliminate talk radio, they must control the net as well. We had all better have countermeasures ready. As we have seen with the Dems already, they will not play fair.

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

 

I think that's a bit rash, to make that comparison...

Neil Stevens Monday, February 16th at 7:38PM EST (link)

… over a law THAT ALREADY EXISTED IN AMERICA FOR A LONG TIME.

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Is it really Neil??

Attack Mode Monday, February 16th at 7:46PM EST (link)

We all know that Obama is a committed leftist, as is his cabinet and the leadership in the House and Senate.

We don’t even truly know everything they just snuck through with the stimulus bill. I believe that a rapid acceleration to something similar to either Zimbabwe or Venezuela is not that far off, if things are left unchecked.

Heck the papers are welcoming socialism, in that name, that is astounding.

Absolutely mind boggling that people are ok with giving even an inch more to this administration.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

You have no sense of history (nt)

Neil Stevens Monday, February 16th at 7:53PM EST (link)

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There Is No Crisis

That is BS Neil...

Attack Mode Monday, February 16th at 8:55PM EST (link)

You have no clue about my sense of history…and I am pretty much through with taking snide shots from you.

I understand what the Fairness Doctrine was and how it played, and I understand the difference between the Democratic party then and now.

I am not saying that we can’t live through it, I am merely saying that we need to start recognizing what is going on and call a spade a spade.

You can keep your snide, belittling comments to yourself, if you don’t want debate just say that and move on.

You had no reason to respond to me in that fashion.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

No, I gave you what you deserve

Neil Stevens Monday, February 16th at 9:51PM EST (link)

The fact that you can’t tell the difference between Robert Mugabe and Barack Obama makes you indistinguishable from those retardo Kossacks who screamed Bushitler.

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Neil keep repeating what you wish I had said instead of what I actually wrote.....

Attack Mode Monday, February 16th at 10:01PM EST (link)

Nowhere did I equate Obama to Mugabe, to do so would be idiotic.

But I do believe that President Obama is a committed leftist, and he will abuse his power if left unchecked.

Now if you would please stop going out of your way to be insulting towards me I would greatly appreciate that.

If you want to talk further about this you have my email.

“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.

 

This is absolutely none of my business

Jack_Savage Monday, February 16th at 10:03PM EST (link)

But I must confess that Aaron’s comment:

“….I believe that a rapid acceleration to something similar to either Zimbabwe or Venezuela is not that far off, if things are left unchecked…”

…has run through my mind more than once in the past few months. ACORN’S involvement in voter fraud throughout the country, the ridiculous Senate race and recount in MN, government censorship gaining ground among mainstream elements of the Democrat Party, the “Truth and Reconciliation” committee actually proposed by a sitting United States Senator, the utter and complete hero worship of Barack Obama and discipleship of a not minor portion of the left gives me great pause - at the very least.

I think that I would certainly argue that things in the United States are trending more toward those situations than away from them.

Again, what of this is new in our history? (nt)

Neil Stevens Monday, February 16th at 10:17PM EST (link)

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Not new

Jack_Savage Monday, February 16th at 10:29PM EST (link)

Nothing is “new”, including communism, and this isn’t new either. It’s just real, and in the open. The farm team of 60’s radicals is firmly in charge of every single aspect of political and economic life, and they are all in. It’s different Neil. It’s mainstream, and there are fewer and fewer of us willing or able to fight it.

I’ll put it this way. I am almost 50 years old, and this is the first time in my life I have ever thought that my worst fears might actually come to pass. It’s the first time I’ve ever HAD any fears. I used laugh my ass off at people who stocked canned goods, and now I am actually buying ammo with cash every week. I am in the process of buying livestock so my family can at least eat. I have made firm arrangements for my family to live in a relative’s basement in a friendlier part of the country if need be. There has never been a time in my life where that has crossed my mind - not once, ever.

I am not stupid. I am not paranoid. I have just realized that in so many ways, this is a time in history that is unlike any other, and the pace of the transformation - from the TARP plan to this pork package was what, four months? - is simply unprecedented. We’ve set off an economic nuclear reaction, and no one knows what the hell is going to happen or when it will end.

Before I go to bed tonight I will pray that you are right.

No, it's not unprecedented (nt)

Neil Stevens Monday, February 16th at 10:38PM EST (link)

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Then, my friend, you can enlighten me

Jack_Savage Monday, February 16th at 10:41PM EST (link)

Because I sure don’t know what you are talking about.

I've tried above.

Neil Stevens Monday, February 16th at 10:44PM EST (link)

In the words of a great man, “Study history.”

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You haven't done a good job then, or I missed it

Jack_Savage Monday, February 16th at 10:47PM EST (link)

And I have taken Rumsfeld’s advice, although not to the extent necessary. If you want to give me some similar conditions in America in the past, I’m all eyes.

 

With all due respect Neil

Jack_Savage Tuesday, February 17th at 10:43AM EST (link)

“Study history” is not an answer. If what is happening now has happened before, I would like more specifics.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I had no idea my little comment would elicit

Flagstaff Monday, February 16th at 10:39PM EST (link)

such impassioned responses.

AAMOF, I fully realized that what I’ve been thinking and writing lately is approaching the ideas that our opponents kept voicing during the last eight years. Rather than be chastened by that, I can reflect that they were basing their fears on no evidence whatsoever beyond left-wing paranoia.

I, OTOH, have seen concrete actions taken by the big O that support a reasonable theory that he is setting up the foundation of a structure that would guarantee Democratic control of the government for years to come, all within the bounds of the law and the Constitution. Control of the opposition media. Control of the financial system. Control of the sources of energy. And he’s doing his best to create a permanent underclass of the unemployed and indebted who can be convinced he is the Answer, not the Problem.

He is the titular head of the military, but that isn’t going well for him as yet. We don’t know exactly why General Zinni told him adios (or vice versa), but one would have to believe it wasn’t something trivial. If he breaches the trust of the American people for its military, the second amendment and its ramifications is all we’ll have to protect us.

So, it may seem paranoid, but as yet I don’t claim it’s true. It’s just not beyond the realm of the possible.

Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!

And fixing the census and the ballot box.

Flagstaff Monday, February 16th at 11:07PM EST (link)

How could I forget those?

Will Norm Coleman be the first Republican to win a contested election in eight years? Doubtful. The fix is truly in.

Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

You did see Obama's comments last year about having a

olsmithie Monday, February 16th at 7:53PM EST (link)

domestic army trained and funded like the US military didn’t you?

“We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded as the military.”

I’m sure there’s nothing to worry about. There’s no funding left for anything else…or is it already passed, ready for signature? Who knows??

Regards

 
 
 
 

Bwahahahahaha

red4ever Monday, February 16th at 11:22AM EST (link)

If they include the internet and demand “fairness” there, that means MoveOn and Daily Kos will have to post Conservative views on their websites. Or else ALL views will not be seen and heard.

Guess they didn’t think that one all the way through. As usual.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante

No, no, no, you just don't understand the concept of "fairness". It's like bipartisanship--

janis Monday, February 16th at 11:25AM EST (link)

for Dems, bipartisan means submit to our will and we’ll let you sign your name to the bill. “Fairness” means “our views are correct and legitimate and yours aren’t. Guess whose views won’t be heard any longer?”

 

Don't laugh. These people think Keith Olbermann is a "centrist" ...

Martin Knight Monday, February 16th at 11:30AM EST (link)

So what makes you think they won’t just declare DailyKos, DU, Pandagon, etc. to be sites representing “neutral” views and concentrate their fire on sites like this one, Anchoress, Powerline and Instapundit?

Don’t laugh. These people play for keeps.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

Aaaah

red4ever Monday, February 16th at 11:53AM EST (link)

but the courts are still pretty safe — except the 9th Circuit. THEY can declare certain sites “centrist” or “neutral,” but that designation can still be challenged in the courts. There are plenty of 1st Amendment lawyers who will push to have all views represented on all sites.

This site has nothing to fear because while there are policies about front page features, even those are flexible enough to allow opposing views. Not so on MoveOn or DailyKos or HuffPo.

Fight it in Congress, then fight it in the courts. Do what THEY did to the internet porn law and other such laws.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante

 

Yes, Martin, I'm fairly certain that's what they'll do--just reset the template for where the center is.

janis Monday, February 16th at 11:54AM EST (link)

And then we can safely be labeled extreme right wingers and shut down with nary a twinge of anyone’s conscience. There’s nothing the least bit funny about any of this, it’s like going to sleep one night in a free country and waking up in the USSR of the 60’s. Way too many people will discount this effort to silence any and all dissent until it’s too late.

Wonder if Venezuelans felt this way just a few years ago?

 

In one of history's great ironies, Martin, I think the very courts

spainishirish Monday, February 16th at 10:14PM EST (link)

the Left used to leverage power will turn against them here. Yes, they will do precisely what you suggested and may even try the same with cable television, wherein CNN and MSNBC will be deemed content neutral and FOX in need of balance. But the courts will have the last word unless things are worse than they seem, and sadly that is possible.

As someone old enough to have lived under the Fairness Doctrine at a time when the Left and the Democratic Party was not as extremist as today, I can tell you it was bad then. I can only imagine what it would be today. Circumstances have changed, though. The “public ownership” of the airwaves probably is an antiquated concept. The composition of the USSC probably wouldn’t agree with the same rationale. People would be more prone to raise unmitigated hell.

I think what Erick has laid out is the approach Obama will take regarding talk radio because he thinks somehow the admininistrative route will avoid litigation. I seriously doubt it and look forward to talk radio ratcheting it up as the Democratic Party tries to implement soft totalitarianism like we find in today’s Britain.

They do play for keeps. But they often lose. I think they will lose this one. Badly.

 

I'm sure that will be a comfort to the websites in question...

Moe Lane Monday, February 16th at 11:07PM EST (link)

…once they realize that they’re going to be served with lawsuits pretty much continuously for the rest of their lives. In multiple jurisdictions.

Because we have lawyers, too.

 
 

You mean they have to let me back on Dkos?

$peciallist Monday, February 16th at 11:41AM EST (link)

Bring it!…(evil laugh)

You got banned from Dkos?

sdan Monday, February 16th at 12:09PM EST (link)

Good for you!

 

Seams you got a personal beef with me, $peciallist. So I don't like your porn pictures.

gekster Monday, February 16th at 10:15PM EST (link)

It’s my hope people won’t post such things because as I have said, my grand kids read this site, so I am opposed to them. Big deal.
I’m sure there are other kids who come here to. If you got something to say to me, just let it go and tell me.
I expect highschool stuff from high schoolers.
lets see what grade you are in.

And Gekster the Barbarian?

Barbarian” is a pejorative term for an uncivilized person, either in a general reference to a member of a nation or ethnos, typically a tribal society as seen by an urban civilization either viewed as inferior, or admired as a noble savage. In idiomatic or figurative usage, a “barbarian” may also be an individual reference to a brutal, cruel, warlike, insensitive person.
Then so be it.

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

10-4

$peciallist Monday, February 16th at 10:22PM EST (link)

I’ll stop

And....you get a Mancard violation...

$peciallist Monday, February 16th at 10:26PM EST (link)

everybody treat ‘gekster teh awesome’ like a por….women for 30 min.

Carry on…

Is this where I put, BWA_HA_HA?

gekster Monday, February 16th at 10:38PM EST (link)

I like Gekster the Barbarian, better.
I think I might change my monicer just for you.
But I learned a long time ago when you have to resort to calling people names, well, thats usually what libs do when they can’t back up what they say now, isn’t it.

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

gekster, just ignore rick for a while

Brian Simpson Monday, February 16th at 10:44PM EST (link)

Once you are around him for a bit you will…I want to say appreciate, but that’s not quite the right sentiment…him a bit better.

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And I will go you one better Homer. If you get five women to say they don't mind your soft-core porn pics, I'll never say anything about them again. I'll just tell the kids to quit reading this site. And

gekster Monday, February 16th at 10:44PM EST (link)

they must be members for at least one mont.
Deal or no deal??

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

sorry, one month

gekster Monday, February 16th at 10:45PM EST (link)

Deal or noo deal

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

No deal.....Is this your version of the Lameness doctrine?

$peciallist Monday, February 16th at 11:18PM EST (link)

The pics will continue as warranted….I thought you wern’t going to respond to me any more?

If you respond to this…..you will get what you ask for……

Simpson?....did he just call you Homer?

$peciallist Monday, February 16th at 11:28PM EST (link)

lol……

Nope, thats yours. DOHH

gekster Monday, February 16th at 11:37PM EST (link)

and that was yesterday, before you put the tagline up.
Try and keep up
Gekster the Barbarian

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

and whats wrong with the deal?? Can't handle it??

gekster Monday, February 16th at 11:40PM EST (link)

ntntntntntntn

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

 

If you challenge me....'keeping up' will be your problem....

$peciallist Monday, February 16th at 11:44PM EST (link)

don’t do it………

Allready did, you turned it down. tell you what, I'll make it three

gekster Monday, February 16th at 11:53PM EST (link)

can’t get five redstae women to support you, then try just three

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

I found a supportive Redstate woman....she stays up till I get home....

$peciallist Tuesday, February 17th at 12:05AM EST (link)

[Redacted - NS]

Sorry, Mom, sisters and the girl who babysits you don't count.

gekster Tuesday, February 17th at 12:11AM EST (link)

Didn’t think youd use your babysitte in a picture.
Gekster the Barbarian

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

Alright gekster...what are your views on Ron Paul?...he's well respected around these parts...

$peciallist Tuesday, February 17th at 12:15AM EST (link)

Don't care, try to stay on topic Homer. Like a lib, don't try to change the subject

gekster Tuesday, February 17th at 12:21AM EST (link)

I’m running out of ways to put nts

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

OK...Softcore porn is the topic....here you go...all the Redstate ladies support this...

$peciallist Tuesday, February 17th at 12:32AM EST (link)

again, like most libs, you make a claim with out proof. Can he get three ladies to shut me up?

gekster Tuesday, February 17th at 12:43AM EST (link)

The ladies have to say it for themselves. Not just your say so.
And by now, some one would have said something.
we’ve been at it for a few hours now, and some woman would have said something to me. And a picture of Hasslehoff in a sweater is not porn.
Grasping at straws?

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

I am a Liberal...and my claim Stands!

$peciallist Tuesday, February 17th at 12:49AM EST (link)

what was my claim again?

(looking frantically for more softcore…BRB)

I asked you to keep up

gekster Tuesday, February 17th at 12:55AM EST (link)

more not knowing a different way to say nt

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

Your superior intellect has rendered me impotent...good job

$peciallist Tuesday, February 17th at 1:02AM EST (link)

So no more softies, unless it's ice cream?

gekster Tuesday, February 17th at 1:07AM EST (link)

Thank you. I will have to say a worthy opponet.
Still like the Gekster the Barbarian.

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

 
 
 
 
 

And , as for Mr. Paul

gekster Tuesday, February 17th at 12:46AM EST (link)

I like his Constitutional views, his domestic ajenda, but have issuies with his forieghn policy. Now back on subject, Homer

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

Ron's ajenda sucks....I have bigtime issuies with his forieghn policy...

$peciallist Tuesday, February 17th at 12:53AM EST (link)

But his stickers are bigger than everyone elses…

 
 
 
 
 
 

That must be the lamp she threw at Bill.

Flagstaff Tuesday, February 17th at 12:19AM EST (link)

It still doesn’t work right.

Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Oh, what a great idea.

Vladimir Monday, February 16th at 11:39AM EST (link)

“One idea Waxman’s committee staff is looking at is a congressionally mandated policy that would require all TV and radio stations to have in place “advisory boards” that would act as watchdogs to ensure “community needs and opinions” are given fair treatment. Reports from those advisory boards would be used for license renewals and summaries would be reviewed at least annually by FCC staff.”

It reminds me of the system the Chinese used to have (maybe they still do!), back in the old days of the Cultural Revolution when we still called them “Red China”: each neighborhood had a “helper” whose job it was to assist the residents in their struggle to maintain ideological purity.

Residents who had problems toeing the line were publicly criticized, and if that didn’t work, the kindly and benevolent government would step in to gently point out the errors in their thinking.

Conservatives in this country had better start to wake up.

There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted. - Arthur Schopenhauer

Calling Obama's Domestic Civilian Force !! Time to report for duty, comrades. n/t

janis Monday, February 16th at 11:56AM EST (link)

Aren't they called community organizers?

Husker Tuesday, February 17th at 2:24AM EST (link)

Just sayin’.

 
 

Where is our counter to MoveOn.org?

kat Monday, February 16th at 11:41AM EST (link)

Where is our conservative group that can mobilize millions of emailers and callers? We are letting this group hijack what our ancestors fought so hard to create. When are we going to stand up to them with our own millions and make ourselves heard? When are we going to publicly out Soros for what he really is and what he really wants? He is the one that is controlling the message and in turn the hand that controls the country. All that lefties have been claiming we’ve been doing for the past 15 years is actually what Soros has been doing.

I have read Rush has 28 million listeners - we need to mobilize them. I understand that our side works and doesn’t have the extra time the other side has, but we need to make it our biggest priority. If we don’t, we won’t just be banished to a minority party for the near future - we’ll be living in a fascist state.

It’s time for our tea party folks.

“Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” Thomas Jefferson

A plan

red4ever Monday, February 16th at 11:55AM EST (link)

We need to be proactive, not reactive. You are right, we need to start mobilizing NOW. Not after this law is passed.

Organization is key to victory.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante

 

This domain is on-line

izoneguy Monday, February 16th at 11:58AM EST (link)

Looks like they tried -

http://moveover.org/

“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson

 

"Where is our conservative group that can mobilize millions of emailers and callers?"

$peciallist Monday, February 16th at 12:02PM EST (link)

we’re busy working ….at our Jobs…

but I have been throwing Tofu and Avocados over the side of my boat…just doin my part

I agree, as I said

kat Monday, February 16th at 1:57PM EST (link)

but at some point we need to put this at the forefront. We need to give up some of our leisure time (I know, what leisure time?) and go full force. I work full-time and have 2 small businesses on the side, but I would give what little time I have left in a week. This is the most important point in time in my lifetime. We need to get a plan in place like red4ever said and move on it. We need to get someone on Rush and Hannity calling all conservatives (fiscal, social, etc.) to action. Get people together in one spot and start melting phones, filling email inboxes, put together protests.

If we continue to lay down and let MoveOn.org control the conservative voice in America, we may as well lay down our guns and join the cult of Obama. If we don’t do something NOW, we’ll never get the chance to do anything at all.

“Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” Thomas Jefferson

I suggest you look at your signature. -nt-

Brian Simpson Monday, February 16th at 10:45PM EST (link)

The Minority Report | Twitter | Facebook | Digg | Politics4All | Missouri Matters | Rebuild the Party
Important principles may and must be inflexible. ~ Abraham Lincoln

 
 
 

Right and left are different

Neil Stevens Monday, February 16th at 10:36PM EST (link)

What worked for them won’t work for us. We’ll never have a MoveOn.

Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis

 
 

Great big transmitters and ocean going ships

Lammo Monday, February 16th at 11:44AM EST (link)

Maybe even a land station in Mexico. We’ll have Radio Free America. They can’t control what doesn’t broadcast from U.S. soil.

ACORN: Association of Criminals Obama Represented in the Nineties. (jupitersuite)

Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (Fr. John Corapi, SOLT)

Crime never takes a holiday. (Dennis J. O’Shea, R.I.P.)

Unlawful is against the law. Illegal is a sick bird. (Ooold joke)

Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read. (Groucho Marx)

Mexico might not let that happen if Obama agrees to take in as many illeagles as they can give us.

gekster Monday, February 16th at 10:24PM EST (link)

A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan

Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.

 
 

RedState to become more troll-friendly.

Vladimir Monday, February 16th at 11:53AM EST (link)

Neil, Erick & Moe must confer with a representative group of liberal counterparts before wielding the blamstick.

Oh, speaking of the blamstick, it’s gonna be renamed the Sceptre for the Celebration of Enlightened Progressive Thought. And instead of terminating the user’s posting rights, they get promoted to be a Director.

And we’ll have to take up a collection to pay reparations to all those who have been sent to The Pile over the years.

Oh, man, it’s gonna be great.

There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted. - Arthur Schopenhauer

 

Couple of points:

itrytobenice Monday, February 16th at 12:21PM EST (link)

I want a crack at the comments regarding PBS. They are not only public airwaves, they are public money.

Two, read any of the threads here at RS. We have plenty of dissenting opinion. No matter how many points of view a radio station airs, we need to contact the FCC with a complaint that they didn’t address ours.

I mean freaking wear them out like a teenaged girl wanting to go to the prom wears out her parents.

The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

Or like how a lust-driven teen-aged boy

civil_truth Monday, February 16th at 12:42PM EST (link)

…wears out his girlfriend’s resistance.

(Or, increasingly these days, vice-versa)

Or like how a Democratic Senate Whip...

Vladimir Monday, February 16th at 2:19PM EST (link)

…woos squishy Northeast RiNOs.

There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted. - Arthur Schopenhauer

 
 
 

A Modest Proposal

hunter Monday, February 16th at 2:08PM EST (link)

Demand that since roads are public as well, that all news carried over public roads be scrutinized for ‘fairness’ and ‘alternative content’. Taht gets teh newspapers and magazines. And since TV is certainly transimitted over public airwaves, TV must be included in this.
If censorship is good for AM radio and bloggers, it is certainly good enough for newspapers, magazines and TV.

hunter

 

NOW Are You Ready to Go to War, GOP?

farstar99 Monday, February 16th at 5:22PM EST (link)

What’s it going to take?
When they’re using your medical records to decide if you get to live?
When they tell you shouldn’t need so much medication for your chronic pain condition, or that doctors can’t attempt surgery because you’re a “lost cause?”
When they’re using census information to decide who gets sewer repairs and who doesn’t?
When they break into your home and take your firearms?
When they bar you from a job because you’re not in a union approved by Obama?
When they have total, unquestioned control over all media?
When they haul people off in the dead of night for not speaking enthusiastically enough of the Fuehrer?
What’s it going to take?
Death camps? Would even that revive your backbone?

Lyndsey Graham suggested nationalizing banks

kweiss01 Monday, February 16th at 5:33PM EST (link)

If a prominent Republican thinks nationalizing the banking industry is a good idea, then how the heck is this party going to stand up for any of the above? And we DO need to stand up.

I hope 2010 isn’t only about replacing Democrats in Congress with Republicans — we also need to replace some RINOs with Republicans who advocate for core Republican values — like limited government.

And Chuckie Shumer is expressed oppositon at the same appearance

olsmithie Monday, February 16th at 11:03PM EST (link)
 
 

Million man March would be

redneck_hippie Monday, February 16th at 5:38PM EST (link)

nothing to the protest this would raise.

I’m saving my money for a road trip. Anybody else?

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

I am in the area I don't need to roadtrip but you name the time and day....

JadedByPolitics Monday, February 16th at 5:52PM EST (link)

and I AM IN!

Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy

And I'll gladly join the two of you to help get the job done.

janis Monday, February 16th at 5:56PM EST (link)

Unless, of course, they decide to roadblock around D.C. and not let us in. Can I pitch my sleeping bag on your lawn, Jaded?

No worries, we'll just

redneck_hippie Monday, February 16th at 6:07PM EST (link)

have some of our graphics $peciallists cook up counterfeit Obama stickers and wear old ’60s hairdos and I’ll borrow my sister’s Prius.

Far out, dude, groovy, man, yer blowin’ my mind and that’s some heavy *&(*#, brother.

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

So, redneck, are you bringing the Boone's Farm Apple Wine,

janis Monday, February 16th at 6:11PM EST (link)

or is that my deal? Or would you rather have Boone’s Farm Strawberry Hill? (Geez, I can’t remember what I did last Wednesday, but I remember the names of really bad alcoholic fruit juice from 38 years ago.)

For me it was sangria with

redneck_hippie Monday, February 16th at 6:14PM EST (link)

the little slices of citrus fruit floating in it. Bleh!

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

That's just so uptown. I must have hung with a lazy bunch of

janis Monday, February 16th at 6:20PM EST (link)

drinkers. Don’t remember any of them getting up the energy to slice fruit. Or maybe I just don’t remember, period. Some parts of the early 70’s are a little hazy. :-)

That haze wasn't purple, was it? nt

redneck_hippie Monday, February 16th at 6:23PM EST (link)

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

Ummmmm (looking uncomfortable and shuffling feet)

janis Monday, February 16th at 6:34PM EST (link)
 
 
 
 
 
 

janis....

JadedByPolitics Tuesday, February 17th at 6:56AM EST (link)

you do NOT need to sleep on the lawn YOU are welcome in the house! I tell you I have counter protested the anti-war left down in DC and all 4 members of my family always have a great time and we would love to host you to come on in and enjoy it with us :-)

Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy

 
 

Eric, is there any rumored

redneck_hippie Monday, February 16th at 6:03PM EST (link)

time frame for hatching this nefarious plot? I mean, we need to plan our responses.

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

 
 
 

The So-called Fairness doctrine is one way to undermine any opposing views

loewenbrau Monday, February 16th at 6:33PM EST (link)

the Democrats may encounter on their way to turning our country into the Stalinist state. We were all warned a year before the election about BHO, his wife and associates. Why did we not heed and come out in full force on election day? McBain was never accused of trying to undermine our Republic—–BHO was. We did not heed the warnings.

WE DID HEED the warnings!

Deskpilot Monday, February 16th at 10:33PM EST (link)

It’s the 52% that didn’t, because they were too blind to see.
They all need to renounce “Amazing Grace” as they saving anthem, or take
a long HARD look at the words before the mid-terms.

or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

It will be this Security Force that runs around to seize our computers, Internet access and guns.

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can still read it in English, You’re Welcome
Deskpilot, AM(H)1 (AW), USN (Ret)

He already has his Domestic Army Unit, thanks to Prez Bush

olsmithie Monday, February 16th at 11:19PM EST (link)

“The John W. Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2006, named for the longtime chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, was signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006. The part undermining the Posse Comitatus Act was subsequently repealed in the Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, but President Bush attached a signing statement to the latter act saying that he did not feel bound by the change.”

“Based out of Fort Stewart, Georgia, the brigade is training for a variety of Homeland Security tasks. “They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE,” states the Army Times”

credit: http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/42-constitution/416

If you read the article yourself, you will find there is already an Active duty Army Brigade at the Presidents “beck and call” courtesy of George Bush 43.

“Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, and later vice president of the United States from 1813-1814, spoke out: “What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty…. Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.”

I believe we are only now going to see some of the massive damage Bush did to the country.
I really could give a rip that he had “good intentions.”

Regards

 
 
 

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