and if we could find a way to keep a coalition together that included “out of my bedroom,” we’d be unbeatable.

Do you seriously think picayune laws like this are going to spark a rebellion - or at least a GOP resurgence - when the Left has the trump card up their sleeve allowing them to accuse their opponents of “wanting dirty water and air”?

“More water pollution, but cleaner dishes,” is NOT going to win any races. Sorry, but facts are facts and people are sheep these days.

that no one is cleaning any guns or really worrying about anything more than the next paycheck.

Scott is very much an apolitical guy that really just deals with day to day situations while planning for his family and their future. He does not do the political scene like I do, but he knows I’m into it.

The revolution is not going to happen over consumer products, according to my bro.

I have to agree.

I’m going to revolt by smuggling laundry detergent on the black market. If this is as profitable as I think it will be, I’ll donate a portion of my profits to Right Wing organizations.

If things become more draconian, I’ll expand to hydrogenated fat, then cigarettes and then, doomsday, ammo.

Because I am roiling mad. Thanks for an enraging but fairly cathartic post, Erick. Hey call me a nut - I really don’t give a d@mn at this point - but IMHO these politicians all need to be beaten to a bloody pulp FOR STARTERS. We used to say there would never be violent protests and revolution again in this country. It may not be over small conveniences but there will be a straw that breaks the camel’s back, and violence is looking more plausible and way more necessary.

The whole family is taking off Tax Day for local tea parties and we can hardly wait. Our outrage needs an outlet. What the government is doing with the auto industry, finance and banking industries, exec paychecks and likely the oil industry next deserves some true outrage and a groundswell of targeted indignation and resolution in 2010 such as the Democrats have never seen before. The fact that corrupt and incompetent politicians who are holding hardworking Americans’ feet to the fire while being held to no standards whatsoever is just insult to injury. This unbearably light and unaccomplished flibbertigibbit of Marxist bent in the W.H. is a daily, hourly assault and insult to intelligent, hardworking people.

RECOVERY BEGINS WHEN OBAMA LOSES HIS JOB (and all the other thieving statists!)

I do feel that something small and somewhat innocuous will trigger outrage. Is this particular issue the thing? Maybe so, maybe not. But consider the spread of Hannan’s redress of Brown. Something will eventually capture the God-given sense of liberty and freedom the vast majority of the country shares. With as many socialist grenades the liberal governments (federal, state, and local) of this nation are throwing, one of them is bound to hit a nerve. I have to hope this is true. If it’s not, then we are going to have a very long road ahead of us.

I don’t think the point being made is simply about consumer products. And, yes, this is a small issue, but it points to something larger. The larger point is this is just one more aspect of out-of-control government interference in our lives based on “clean air” or “clean water” or “for the children” as liberals tend to abuse to get what they want.
I mean who doesn’t want clean air and water and to keep children from harm, but I don’t like it when they’re used as a cudgel to control every tiny aspect of my life including the dishwasher detergent I use.
The big picture is ever increasing government control. Dishwasher detergent just happens to be this week’s example.

The revolution won’t be over dishwasher detergent. It’s going to be lack of good beer and fast cars that starts the cultural war.

Didn’t you people see Smokey & The Bandit? It was a huge hit in 1977 because it hit a cultural nerve (It wasn’t the acting nor the plotline). Clean air & gas mileage meant emasculated cars, downsized cars, mandatory 55mph. And you couldn’t buy Coors beer east of Texas. So Smokey hops in a badass TransAm and sticks it to the Man.

Right now it’s cool to be a greenie & environmentally aware. Sooner or later, the preachiness is going to get old & Americans want to be Americans again.

They always bash flea medicine on animal and recommend dish soap. I wonder if these folks even have animals because cats do not like to be bathed. One of my furbabies is a little impaired and usually very sweet, he doesn’t hunt bugs even but even he will claw and scratch if you try to put him near water. I shop at the organic store and I add nutritional yeast to their food to help repel fleas them but we still have to use flea medicine. So they are always bashing flea medicine..what will they do now!

…now lost to the ethersphere, or whatever you call it, was on the subject of two of my all time red-flag phrases used by the MSM to push for bigger more intrusive government at the Federal level.

“CRAZY QUILT” and “PATCHWORK QUILT”

As in, “the laws regulating ____________ across this country are a patchwork quilt of local codes that vary wildly…” As seen on 60 Minutes, 48 Hours, Dateline, 20/20, CNN, etc, &etc.

Well, then, what we need is CONSISTENCY! At the FEDERAL LEVEL!

I could generate a list as long as my arm of issues, from boxing, to horseracing, to food production, you name it, that just CRY OUT for Federal regulation because the locals are too stupid & inconsistent to manage it.

which were not quite as radical over 8 years as we’ve seen in the past 60 days, we did see group of people (albeit a fringe element) reach the tipping point. Some acted when backed into a corner, some went on the offensive.

Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, David Koresh, Randy Weaver, Kevin Harris, maybe others I don’t remember.

Right now the upper crust is being attacked. These are the folks with other paths available and resources in reserve. As soon as the Obama’s radical assault “trickles down” a layer or two, beyond the board room and even past the soccer mom, we will regrettably (but likely) see a similar reaction.

The trigger, I don’t know. Maybe the shuttering of coal mines and loss of family farms (to taxes not foreclosure this time). Maybe hyperinflation and the inability to afford heat or food. Maybe the state over-reaching in its intrusion in the parent-child relationship.

If this eliminates Cascade, the most popular brand nationwide, from an entire state, I’d like to know why the manufacturer isn’t responding. In this economy, a move like this would have to do enormous damage to P&G. The government may be after their other products too. The left is in a panic over the lost trees from soft bath tissue like Charmin.

I pray we never see the day P&G seeks a government bailout.

At what point may speculating about revolt actually become encouraging revolt?

For instance, I believe that there should be a list…a “living” list, (you know, in the same vein as a “living” constitution). The list would necessarily contain names of proven “statist” subversives, to be updated regularly.

Of course, that side would consider most conservatives to be subversives as well. But then again, which side has the lion’s share of firepower? (…and have no intention of relinquishing that advantage.)

Individuals appearing on such a list , (those whose names would be the most worthy of opprobrium), could possibly be eligible for such niceties as tar and feathering, or being run out of town on a rail, (or whatever the modern equivalent may be)

Now, that doesn’t mean I’m explicitly encouraging revolution.

But then again, it is almost pitchfork time.

I think some of you have missed the point.

I do not expect a revolution to break out over dish washing detergent. But I do think an accumulation of little things like this will lead to something very ugly.

At some point, one more piece of straw breaks the camel’s back, even if that straw is, in and of itself, insignificant. But it yields the fight.

Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?

What is it with government banning things that work? Toilets with enough flow to work, cold medicine that works, dishwater detergent that works, …

that has people riled up, but the nanny philosophy of the politicians.

A mature technology exists, implementable at centralized wastewater treatment facilities, to remove nearly all phosphate from wastewater effluent. What has people burned, I think, is that the politicians refused the technological fix for the problem, and instead insisted that a million people must immediately change their behavior to satisfy the aesthetic preferences of those politicians!

That is the kind of stuff that will eventually have people reaching for the torches and pitchforks, tar and feathers.

I’m going to attend one of these “tea parties” here in New Jersey, with a homemade poster that says
RE-ELECT
NOBODY

Obama’s own will be the first to riot. The poor who are the most vulnerable having their hopes of change dashed will be the ones to lead the charge. They were outright lied to and sold a bill of goods that promised that help is on the way. It will not.

For Obama to prevent it he will have to continue to deflect their anger to Bush and evil corporations(you know, those things that create jobs and stuff).

“Were I in Washington State, I’d be cleaning my gun right about now”

I call baloney on you.

My guess is that you’d be doing right now, which is pontificating on a blog.

While this is egregious it is far less offensive than a mile long single spaced list of nonsense being peddled by the leftist big-gov types.

Read you history. People don’t put up with this kind of crap only to jump up at the point of some minor straw on a camel’s back and run out and revolt.

Revolutions happen in a very different way, and our American history should have taught you that.

often lead to bloodshed.

Spokane County became the launch pad last July for the nation’s strictest ban on dishwasher detergent made with phosphates, a measure aimed at reducing water pollution. The ban will be expanded statewide in July 2010, the same time similar laws take effect in several other states.

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Erick says:

At what point do the people tell the politicians to go to hell? At what point do they get off the couch, march down to their state legislator’s house, pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp for being an idiot?

You want to beat people to a bloody pulp over dishwasher detergent????

Jesus, dude. Really. Seek some help. You need it.

As long as the right wingers keep riled up over laundry detergent, loading their guns over dish soap and foaming at the mouth over Tide the Democrats will be in office for a good long while.

Good job!

Its not about dish detergent. What Eric is asking is when is the breaking point for a people? You forget we are a big nation with a bit population. If Washingtonians like their government and the feds doing what they do then so be it. But Georgians may not.

You need to look long and hard at the years prior to the War Between the States to get an understanding to the social/economic differences that defined the country then and apply it to now. We’re not the same we were in the 1850s but the South is not the North and neither are the Midwest, values may be similar or different and thats how we elect the politicians we elect.

There are trip wires. Its a matter of for who and what. For South Carolina it was the election of Abe Lincoln. Don’t be naive and limit this to household convenience and consider the larger scope.

As for apoliticals being unaware, even a bear wakes up.

don’t give them ideas. Next it will be measuring the number of household flushes to determine if you are eating or drinking to much for the environment.

someone once asked “who will cast the first stone?” without stating the necessary pre-requisite, and I jumped up and loudly, but not quite screamingly said, “Me! Me! Me!”

But yeah, I’m finding it harder and harder these days to resist the urge to physically smack some sense into some people.