This is Levi Johnson appearing on the Tyra Banks show. He’s a clean cut, pretty type. That is, though, a carefully constructed image — constructed by the Palins and McCains as the Presidential campaign unfolded with the news of Bristol Palin’s pregnancy.
The real Levi Johnson is something altogether different. The left, when it decided Bristol Palin was fair game, went after Levi Johnson for being a thug and redneck. He was not interested in college — only in scoring with the Governor’s daughter. The classic tale of the high school jock who is, in essence, a low life loser in it for a good time. The left and media regaled the rest of us with tales of what a loser the Palin kid slept with.
The left was right. Now, though, they can’t be bothered by it. Below is the actual Levi — no preppy clothes. No polish. Just good old boy who knocked up the Governor’s daughter. Not exactly the image Tyra Banks and he would like you to think about.
What’s even more creepy is that the other person in the picture is his sister. And, as if lifted from the pages of Deliverance, she has his name tattooed on her back finger. Think about that one for a minute.
To be sure, the Palins should have done a better job checking up on Bristol. They can be reminded of that for the rest of Tripp Johnson’s life. That’s Levi and Bristol’s son. The son Bristol will raise without Levi because now that there’s no chance Sarah Palin will be Vice President he did not want to stick around and handle the responsibility of being a father.
But it’s okay. It keeps the Sarah Palin story alive for people like Tyra Banks to make money off too. Soon Levi will sell his tell all book, delightfully ignoring awkward questions about his relationship with his sister while relishing in the awkward details of his relationship with Sarah Palin.
And he will be greeted as a hero by the left because boosting him hurts Sarah Palin. And principles be damned when it comes to savaging the Governor of Alaska and her family.
Anyone else want to cash in? I hope Bristol will at least claim some of Levi’s money from his appearance on Tyra’s show.
Good lord...
merkurfan Monday, April 6th at 7:51PM EDT (link)Anything for a buck I guess. Tyra could not find someone who ran of with someone elses babies daddy? or maybe that’s been beat to death.
The Levi I am sure has made his parents proud. Then again, they created him, so they very well might be.
And he will be paying our social security when we get old.
God help us all.
His mother was there on the couch next to him.
Husker Monday, April 6th at 7:57PM EDT (link)She was proud and thinking CAH-CHING!!! Point me the way to Macy’s.
No, No you're wrong
Jaimo Monday, April 6th at 7:59PM EDT (link)It’s baby daddy, not babies daddy. I guess Rihanna was busy that day getting the tattoo of the revolver under her armpit.
Wow,
BlueLandRed Monday, April 6th at 8:01PM EDT (link)I don’t have to think about that tattoo thing for a minute to know it’s damn creepy.
Uber Creepy
MNConservative Monday, April 6th at 10:10PM EDT (link)ALL tatoos are creepy to begin with. That’s Uber Creepy!
Jeebus, I can hear the two-toothed kid....
furious Monday, April 6th at 8:07PM EDT (link)….pickin’ at his banjo now. Levi Johnson won’t only be paying your Social Security, he may be one of the orderlies at your nursing home. Be Afraid.
–furious
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Jeebus, I can hear the two-toothed kid....
furious Monday, April 6th at 8:07PM EDT (link)….pickin’ at his banjo now. Levi Johnson won’t only be paying your Social Security, he may be one of the orderlies at your nursing home. Be Afraid.
–furious
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Levi has dug himself a deep hole
civil_truth Monday, April 6th at 8:10PM EDT (link)I hope he enjoys the rush of celebrity because he’s going to be paying the cost for the rest of his life. Just ask Cindy Sheehan, now that she’s served her purpose, how it feels to be chewed up and spit out by the left.
Not to mention that he’s still going to have child support to pay, and he’s not exactly equipped himself for a sucessful life path. And he’s created some powerful enemies who are likely to put obstacles in his the way of his desire to live a comfortable life.
And Rightly So!
child support is based on income
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 8:25PM EDT (link)If he doesn’t earn very much he won’t be forced to pay that much. There are types of public assistance programs for non-custodial parents too. I don’t know if either of them have legal custody right now though. With the joint custody laws like they are now if they have joint custody and Bristol ends up earning more she may have to pay him child support.
It might be worth it
Steph C Monday, April 6th at 9:19PM EDT (link)to pay him to stay away.
I understand that all parties concerned made mistakes and/or bad decisions about them. I understand that this kid is impressionable but apparently there’s little honor in this kid’s parents and something he hasn’t learned as a consequence.
Whether by mistake or not, Bristol Palin is the mother of his first child. Bristol’s mother is as much that child’s grandmother as is Levi’s mother. Regardless of his and her reasons for not going through with marriage, he has no honor for the national insult he dealt her.
Is this what they want their child to learn? To disrespect the mother for the father’s gratification, whatever it was? The only ones who know for sure what that was is Levi and his family.
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It might be worth it
Steph C Monday, April 6th at 9:19PM EDT (link)to pay him to stay away.
I understand that all parties concerned made mistakes and/or bad decisions about them. I understand that this kid is impressionable but apparently there’s little honor in this kid’s parents and something he hasn’t learned as a consequence.
Whether by mistake or not, Bristol Palin is the mother of his first child. Bristol’s mother is as much that child’s grandmother as is Levi’s mother. Regardless of his and her reasons for not going through with marriage, he has no honor for the national insult he dealt her.
Is this what they want their child to learn? To disrespect the mother for the father’s gratification, whatever it was? The only ones who know for sure what that was is Levi and his family.
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Yes it is but...
merkurfan Monday, April 6th at 11:40PM EDT (link)As some one who use to pay it. I can tell you, once it goes up, it NEVER goes back down. So if they base is support payments off all the money he is likely making by going on all these shows.. well, he’ll be hard pressed to EVER get it changed.
It was wrong...
Fred Maidment Monday, April 6th at 8:12PM EDT (link)…of the McCain/Palin campaign to make him out to be anything other than what he was. Clearly, he’s a redneck. The photo doesn’t bother me so much, I have similar ones of myself and my family (though none of us have names of another family member tattooed on our backs!). Trying to paint him as a nice, preppy guy who was going to be a good father was a mistake, and it will hurt Palin in any future endeavors.
That said, Bristol Palin wasn’t running for Vice President, Sarah Palin was. This issue should have been a non-starter no matter which side of the aisle Palin was on. The fact is, no matter how the Left wants to paint it, Sarah Palin is not a hypocrite for having a daughter who got pregnant before getting married.
…Tattooed his name…? Ick…
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mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 8:30PM EDT (link)wrong she had him on stage with them. I understand they can’t control an adult child, but why bring him on stage? Why did she even mention his name when the pregnancy announcement took place? Why have him sit with the family during the RNC? Why mention his future plans? I wrote this before but I don’t think she should have disclosed so much. If she had her son’s girlfriend on stage I would have felt the same way.
I believe they didn’t help him be responsible by bringing him on the campaign trail. A man with a child on the way needs to be working or finish school, not traveling around with his girlfriends family.
not wrong
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 8:46PM EDT (link)it wasn’t a bad like moral choice. I thought it was a bad decision.
Do you really think it would have been smart
redware Thursday, April 9th at 10:19AM EDT (link)for the Palin campaign to portray Levi Johnston as “that low life redneck that knocked up our daughter”?They were clearly doing as much damage control as possible under the circumstances.Let’s keep the focus of blame where it clearly belongs-on this self-centered poor excuse for a Dad,his money grubbing family,and the MSM for using the situation in an effort to destroy Governor Palin-of whom they are mightily afraid!
so we attack Levi because he is attacking
Doc Holliday Monday, April 6th at 8:20PM EDT (link)whom exactly, I can’t keep it straight, is it Sarah or Bristol? Guys, it is over, Palin is not THE ONE version 2, hero worship on the Dems part got us Obama, I refuse to partake. I look forward to a large field of excellent candidates in 2012 and let’s hope the best of them rises to the top.
I will defend Palin and any Repub that is unfairly trashed, but I have no skin in the Palin game, she is just one potential candidate, and at this rate her star is not rising.
Molon Labe!
The poor guy is obviously hurt and confused and in need of our Prayers and Protection....
JLenardDetroit Monday, April 6th at 8:24PM EDT (link)not adding to his hurt by attacking him and driving him further toward those that seek to draw him in for their purposes, not to help/assist him!!!!!
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Doc you got it
AKSteveB Monday, April 6th at 8:36PM EDT (link)And yeah Levi had a reputation in the Valley as a first class idiot. Erick the incest inference was uncool though, just as uncool as when it was thrown at Palin. We should be above that.
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you people are pathetic
Erick Erickson Monday, April 6th at 8:48PM EDT (link)He’s not some innocent caught in the cross fire. The douchebag brought this on by himself.
You can go on being high and mighty and smuggly superior, but the tool is using Palin to get his 15 minutes.
Screw him.
I don’t have a dog in the fight for 2012, but if these people were coming after any of the potentials I’d be defending them too.
As for the incest reference — all I did was point out that she has that tattoo. Boo-hoo.
Your “this is too icky and shame on you” position would be noble except that it is not reciprocated by the other side. There are no innocent victims any more — just those too unwilling to get their hands dirty in what the left has made a very dirty business.
Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?
It isn't about Levi, it is about us.
AKSteveB Monday, April 6th at 8:52PM EDT (link)This is one of those cases where I see no point in not holding the higher ground. Not to mention I’m having dinner soon and that tat thing ruined my appetite.
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Probably practices safe sex with his sister.
Tbone Monday, April 6th at 10:57PM EDT (link)It’s not the fact that she has “Levi” tatted on her back, it’s the phrase “Is that you?” below it that is telling.
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LOL!
Rod_Patrick Tuesday, April 7th at 10:32AM EDT (link)On a second thought …..Yikes!!!!
I agree
Warner Todd Huston Monday, April 6th at 8:53PM EDT (link)Levi is a punk that needs to man up and take responsibility for his life. Mr. Palin should beat him to a pulp and leave him stranded somewhere out in the tundra with no shoes!
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Warner Todd Huston Monday, April 6th at 8:55PM EDT (link)Oh, and what’s with that fey sweater vest thingie? He looks like a gayer version of 80s Grunge.
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He wouldn't dare dress like that in Wasilla
Achance Monday, April 6th at 9:04PM EDT (link)unless he wanted to fight his way out.
In Vino Veritas
but then he files something against Mr Palin
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 8:57PM EDT (link)and his Levi’s mother calls social services and then files for custody because the baby is living with a violent man. The gov doesn’t make it easy on protective grandpas/dads.
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IJB Monday, April 6th at 8:55PM EDT (link)If people around here don’t want to get down and “dirty” in the fight against the Left, the time to get off the train is *now*.
As far as I am concerned, at this point, no tactic or smear is too low to be unleashed on the other side. *Everybody* over there is fair game.
And if the other side doesn’t like it? - Tough! They brought it on themselves.
And if anyone on our side doesn’t like it? - Tough! This is the way many of us want the game played now. Heck, we’re *demanding* it!
Getting down and dirty is great
AKSteveB Monday, April 6th at 9:07PM EDT (link)but exactly who are we fighting here?
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The Who
Erick Erickson Monday, April 6th at 9:16PM EDT (link)Those who want to get their 15 minutes of fame on the Palin gravy train and their backers who want to sabotage any chances Palin has of moving to higher office.
Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?
We are fighting the Democrats
E Pluribus Unum Monday, April 6th at 9:17PM EDT (link)And boy wonder has made himself a tool of the Democrats, by actively sabotaging one of our brighter stars. And doing it for money.
Fair game.
Carthago delenda est
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IJB Monday, April 6th at 9:26PM EDT (link)I never defended him
Doc Holliday Monday, April 6th at 9:40PM EDT (link)I choose not to follow the soap opera stuff. Heck, I don’t even think anyone in this thread has quoted a word the boy/man said in the interview. I did find the idea that a picture with guns makes someone a dumb ass hick a bit odd on a pro 2a site. I know nothing about Levi or Bristol, I am too busy with my own soap opera life. To each his own, we can all fight on different fronts. And I said in my original post I would defend any Repub unfairly attacked, but I also say Palin is getting too much baggage. I simply believe she is not the next likely candidate.
Molon Labe!
Doc, if you look at the picture of Levi and his sister,
janis Monday, April 6th at 11:11PM EDT (link)they DO NOT look like responsible gun owner types. They look like the little teenage thugs around these parts of rural America who think it’s cool to do meth, drive drunk and engage in serial theft. I see arrest reports on them weekly around the county I live in and the two counties adjoining mine. They look like the stereotype of what the lefties think we ALL look like who own guns and know how to use them. Would you wish to be identified with the two pictured above?
I sure wouldn’t.
I agree with you there Janis
Doc Holliday Tuesday, April 7th at 12:24PM EDT (link)they do not look like responsible gun owners, they look like stupid kids playing with guns. I took a lot of heat in this thread but stand by my original post. The post was very clear, it was my comment that A) I did not follow the Palin saga and B) I personally predict that she is not likely our next candidate. That is all I said.
I regret that all that followed because I responded to Ericks general post calling people pathetic. I asked Erick if he included my post and did not get a response from him, then all hell broke loose lol. I have explained my position over and over and there is nothing more to say. I am clearly a partisan and believe we are in a serious fight, as does Erick. I will fight the left wing smear machine, in fact, I have been doing that for a long time.
Molon Labe!
Yet you're still in this thread.
Jeff Emanuel Monday, April 6th at 11:19PM EDT (link)That doesn’t exactly scream “taking the high road and sitting this one out.”
JE
I think both "kids" are young and dumb and not fully "molded"
JLenardDetroit Monday, April 6th at 11:31PM EDT (link)both (Levi/Bristol), IMO, are just still a confused mish-mash of all elements pulling on them…. with peer pressure having had won out over the other “responsible” arguments with regard to their past behavior…. BOTH ARE BEING USED BY MSM WITH ANYTHING THEY SAY TO BE SLICED AND DICED TO FIT THE LEFT LINE, you all know that…..
Beyond that, I agree with Doc - I really don’t care about either of them that much either or the drama being played out… The Lefties are “using” him, he is a willing participant (so it seems), I just think it is a shame that some on our side now want to “USE” him also - as a whipping boy. I’d rather focus on the more important Politics of Policy. I’d been waiting for the Defense Cuts Diaries to follow on what I’d done with “Surrender Doctrine” from the Election - History Repeating with a Democrat administration and all the other topics much more worthy, IMO, of discussion… But, yes, we can cover all discussions at one time…
Sorry I hadn’t chimed in to assist you earlier Doc…. it is not “PC” here either to go against the “Site Line” ….
Can I be persuaded… perhaps… I can fully understand the thoughts that he is “too far gone” to be “protected” and hopefully brought to our side…. I still just choose to NOT pile on (not saying I won’t complain later)…. Frankly, all this Pile on by the Left is going to backfire on them (at least, we can hope)… and those that want to lap it up on the Left, would NOT be convinced by anything anyone is going to say on any of these issues anyway…
Just sayin’…. respecting others opinions…. want them to respect ours….
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Levi Johnston is eighteen years old....
Susannah Tuesday, April 7th at 1:05AM EDT (link)Eighteen year old guys are idiots–no offense to any of you eighteen year old guys out there, but it’s true. In fact, eighteen year old girls are idiots too. I look back at some of the stuff that I did and said when I was eighteen and cringe (and, one day, all of you eighteen year olds reading this will too). Cut poor Levi some slack. I agree with JLenard–Levi is not fully formed yet–he’s just a confused kid. He’s got a lot of growing up to do. Who knows, maybe one day he will get his act together and him and Bristol will get back together again. I’m going to root for him and hope that, one day, he will eventually grow up. Anyway, in my opinion, it’s his parents who are the ones who should have have been looking out for his best interests (you know, the supposed “grown-ups”) and should have kept him off of the cheesy Tyra Banks show.
Doesn't mean someone held a gun to his head
aesthete Tuesday, April 7th at 3:46AM EDT (link)and told him to go on the show, though. I’m not saying that I hadn’t done anything stupid by that time, but I think it’s hard to justify going on a TV show to publicly dis your GF. Sorry, but to me, pre-meditation is implicit in the act, and a man who premeditatively acts to dishonor his GF on public television isn’t a man in my book, to be so chauvinistic
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I am almost positive he could not have done
Doc Holliday Monday, April 6th at 9:44PM EDT (link)it all by himself…………get it?
Molon Labe!
yet fellow RedStaters are attacked in this thread....
JLenardDetroit Tuesday, April 7th at 1:34AM EDT (link)… for having HONEST opinion/debate amongst “Friends?!?” Reminds me of the “With Friends like these” adage….
I’ve not seen you doing it… I’m just sayin’ in general here as a convenient place to mention it given your Comment Title…
Agree EPU (Fighting Democrats, Liberals, Socialists, MSM allies, etc)… some others in the thread need reminding of that
Levi and Bristol have shown they are YOUNG/DUMB kids… I just hate to some around here acting like they are 16. We do NOT need to pile on so badly, is all I’m saying, further driving him and his family into the Lefty-loon MSM trumping up of the situation!
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I agree with you jlenard
Doc Holliday Tuesday, April 7th at 11:35PM EDT (link)this entire thread is an embarrasment to Red State. I appreciate your support. I can’t believe how many times I had to explain my position over and over. I can’t believe I and others were called stupid, haughty, ignorant, sniveling, unhygienic, among other epithets. this for simply saying we think republicans have more important issues at hand.
I finally saw the video and do find Levi’s family to come off as dolts. It is funny he says nothing while the sister takes control. I still don’t see how this affects our freedoms that are being eroded daily, in fact it furthers my point that I don’t think Palin is all that. Does anyone here think trashing these hicks will help us? do you guys think the Dems will agree Palin is superior or will they say, look at who she lets her daugher copulate with?
I regret this diary ever happened and I regret posting in it. It makes me have less desire to come here as frequently. I am too busy trying to take care of my own family, manage investments in this horrible economy, and defend the freedoms I hold most dear.
Molon Labe!
Am I "you people" Erick?
Doc Holliday Monday, April 6th at 9:36PM EDT (link)I am sorry I am not interested in the Palin family saga. I have never followed this personal stuff because it has nothing to do with our party getting back to its Reagan roots or the need to change America’s direction fast.
All I pointed out is I am not going to attack some schmo I know nothing about and if I wanted to watch Jerry Springer, I would watch Jerry Springer. I am here to discuss big ideas, not small ones. Also, although I liked the Palin pick, I don’t think she is The One and I don’t need defend her plumber style for the next four years. She may be good, but she is not THAT good. And the next time I watch Tyra Banks will be the first time.
I hope that explains further what I wrote upthread. I know I am not sounding pathetic, but some people are.
Molon Labe!
Then why don't you go write a "big idea diary"
Tbone Monday, April 6th at 11:01PM EDT (link)and not snivel all over these threads with your little idea(of what’s going on) comments?
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
who asked ya jerk? nt
Doc Holliday Monday, April 6th at 11:59PM EDT (link)nt not worth my time.
Molon Labe!
You are right, your time is so valuable
Tbone Tuesday, April 7th at 1:18AM EDT (link)that someone must be paying you a lot of money to write your tripe on here. Certainly a person of your obvious erudition would not blither and blather as a hobby. Nope, I would say aimless introspection in search of that elusive third IQ digit would take up your free time.
Me, on the other hand, am just generous to a fault. I offer guidance to the lost souls searching for “big ideas”, without being asked. In your case, you should start small, perhaps an idea in the realm of personal hygiene would pay big dividends in your quest to engage an entity that doesn’t rely on photosynthesis or a one way air valve for its physical presence.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
i am surprised a crazy person
Doc Holliday Tuesday, April 7th at 3:07AM EDT (link)has lasted so long here.
Molon Labe!
Your introspection is encouraging.
Tbone Tuesday, April 7th at 10:16AM EDT (link)Now go getcha one of them big ideas. LOL
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
touche tbone
Doc Holliday Tuesday, April 7th at 11:52AM EDT (link)My last comment in this thread is that I hope you were drunk and stoned last night and not just crazy, peace.
Molon Labe!
Erick's right on this
finaljeopardy Thursday, April 9th at 9:40AM EDT (link)Nobody made Levi go to the convention. He expressed interest in doing the honorable thing and marrying Bristol / being a father to their child. What went wrong is irrelevant. He’s cashing in on his 15 minutes, so he has again put himself in the spotlight. Levi denies he’s white trash, but he embarrassed the unwed mother of his child, his mother’s a meth dealer, he proudly wrote about his trashiness on his Myspace account… now his sister turns out to have his name tramp stamped on her back.
That just ewwww. And Levi Johnston made this an issue.
Wow, Erick
Rod_Patrick Tuesday, April 7th at 10:34AM EDT (link)I didn’t know that you have it in your bones just like the founding fathers:
FIGHTING BACK…. EVEN LIKE A MILITIA!!!!
I’m a militia too.
A Militia of One (SM) ;-)
JLenardDetroit Wednesday, April 8th at 2:52AM EDT (link)to steal a slogan - lol
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rakrobn Thursday, April 9th at 5:43PM EDT (link)[I'd love to give you folks a direct link to this guy's video threads, but the language he uses there is kind of filthy - and just full of the women-hatred that we've come to expect from this crowd. Here's the Google link; feel free to check it out.]
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Erick, you are no better than the left by implying that Levi and his sister have some type of incestual relationship (very immature). Are you actually serious? This is the FATHER of Gov. Palin’s grandchild and Bristol Palin’s son. Do you really think by doing this you are showing family values that conservatives like us are supposed to espouse? Does he not have the right to free speech to discuss his relationship, or is that only after his story is “vetted” by campaign managers first?He went ON HIS OWN WILL on the show to discuss his relationship. You think you know more than him about his own relationship? Or is it bc YOU think it could be potentially damaging to Palin. Oh wait you say, “I don’t have a dog in the fight for 2012, but if these people were coming after any of the potentials I’d be defending them too.” So he should shut up and only Bristol and Gov. Palin can talk about their relationship.
Playing the “left does it all the time” card does not give you a free pass. Also no one judged him by his clothes. It seems like you like being the elitist showing a picture of him with a gun and casual clothes and think it’s a bad thing. “Just good old boy who knocked up the Governor’s daughter.” Get a life and go work for the Huffington Post.
I'm Confused
Raven Monday, April 6th at 10:40PM EDT (link)I thought you were one of our more knowledgeable guys here. This being a political website, I made the possibly incorrect assumption that that knowledge was political.
If so, then how do you not know that this is how the game has been played since, well, um, since the beginning.
The only difference between now and 1800 is that we don’t have pistol duels available in case we’re offended too badly. Not that that really worked out so well for Alexander Hamilton…
Seriously, have you ever read some of the Public discourse between Jefferson and John Adams?
It is now and always has been ugly.
“Unlike cruel liberty that requires you to stand and take responsibility for your choices, kind tyranny requires only that you kneel and surrender your choices.”
I think you and many here have to reread what
Doc Holliday Tuesday, April 7th at 12:08AM EDT (link)I wrote. I said I did not follow the Palin soap opera and that I have no idea what her daughter’s ex-boyfriend said to whom. I do know that there has been too much drama surrounding Palin from the beggining. Do you think Reagan would ever complain about how a running mate treated him to the press?
I have no problems with rough and tumble fights. I do know history; and that includes the much more personal political attacks of our earliest days as a country. I just don’t care about Levi whatever his name is, it really is that simple. If he is trashing the Palins, then maybe he is fair game. I was called smug and haughty for simply not following this personal soap opera, and even that is fine. I am not in the tank for Palin, I think she is too high maintenance. That being said, I will gladly join in defending her from political tricks.
Molon Labe!
My apologies
Raven Tuesday, April 7th at 3:42AM EDT (link)It certainly read otherwise.
Since there were so many of us who Did read it that way, perhaps you should reread what you wrote and consider how to rephrase so we don’t misunderstand next time.
Suggestion not meant to be aggressively critical. Just something I’ve had to do from time to time that seems like it might be a good idea this time considering the significant difference between the meaning and the what was received…
“Unlike cruel liberty that requires you to stand and take responsibility for your choices, kind tyranny requires only that you kneel and surrender your choices.”
Erick
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 8:35PM EDT (link)Why did you write that about him not wanting to be a father? I thought he was complaining that he couldn’t take the child out of Bristol’s home? I haven’t kept up with his media stuff though.
Can't take his baby where? to his tweeker mom's house?
JustLeaveMeAlone Monday, April 6th at 11:02PM EDT (link)Seriously… if you were the Palins, would you let that baby go see the Johnsons? Before or after Levi’s mother’s meth lab is raided?
‘Cuz I bloody well wouldn’t.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
I was asking Erik
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 11:19PM EDT (link)I wasn’t criticizing the Palins*at all* or even implying they were wrong. If you knew me IRL you would know how protective I am. I don’t agree with the man even asking that, a father should know a newborn baby needs it’s mama close by.
also I'm sure
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 11:24PM EDT (link)the Palins will be very welcoming to him to visit in their home, despite all this drama he is causing, so they can protect Trig. What a headache they have to deal with..apart from all the political stuff.
i know... and i wasn't jumping you!
JustLeaveMeAlone Monday, April 6th at 11:51PM EDT (link)I was speaking rhetorically. Sorry if it sounded personal.
I’m just royally pissed off at young Levi. On the bright side, he is now a wonderful example of why abstinence works!
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
More angry at Banks
dld1717 Monday, April 6th at 8:46PM EDT (link)Isn’t is shocking (NOT) that a liberal talk show host who is Obama’s biggest fan ( she even dressed up as Michelle in photo spread recently) would have Levi on talking about Sara?
Isn’t this so typical that the media/hollywood will attack Bush twins and Bristol but Joe Biden’s daughter does cocaine and is arrested and its alll shhhhhhh and she gets a job working in a center with plenty of drugs now.
I doubt Bank would ever have on anyone talking about Biden’s daughter cocaine problem?
Tyra Banks Is An Unfathomable Narcacist
IJB Monday, April 6th at 8:52PM EDT (link)Just watch nearly any episode of “The Soup” to see the inane antics of Tyra Banks. Pretty much anything that she’s involved with inevitably becomes about her, including every show she’s involved in.
There’s a reason nearly all professional models are held in low esteem - when you see what it looks like when any of them amass some real ‘pull’ (e.g. Tyra Banks), the results are almost never pretty…
I never knew or cared that Tyra could talk.
Tbone Monday, April 6th at 11:03PM EDT (link)I doubt anyone else did either.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Tyra Banks show's meme is a subtle (if not obvious to some) ATTACK ON ABSTINENCE.
Rod_Patrick Tuesday, April 7th at 11:01AM EDT (link)The Story Behind the Interview:
Tyra and the Left were spinning the real issue. Levi and Bristol are practitioners of SAFE SEX, not ABSTINENCE. Tyra has just highlighted that Safe Sex is NOT SAFE after all. That’s the morale of this story.
Sarah and Bristol viz. Abstinence:
In short, Sarah is right. Abstinence is kool and the ideal that the kids should strive hard for! Too sad that Bristol, like any rebellious children (including me), didn’t listen to her mother. The experience of this Mom-Daughter pair is the best example of the real advantages of Abstinence.
Backtracking Reagan:
This issue of Sarah vs. Safe Sex reminds me of Reagan viz. Abortion controversy. In the end, Reagan became a stalwart opponent of “Abortion-on-demand”. I pray that Sarah will become an activist for Abstinence.
To my own mom:
I LUV YOU MOM!!!!! Sorry for not listening to you “all the time” when I was a kid. I realize you’ve always been right.
To all kids and teens out there: IT’S MOM ATTACK.
Cherish your Conservative moms. Listen to them whenever you can. It’s for your own good. Their dignity and their principles have been under the attack of the MSM and Hollywood drivels 24 hours a day.
Parting words to this issue
It’s a really a great day to re-start advocating for Abstinence once again. Thanks to the Real-life lessons imparted to us by the Palin Family.
My respect for Sarah still remains.
Isn't this a Poster Boy for the Left?
red4ever Monday, April 6th at 8:47PM EDT (link)High school drop out because education is for losers.
Not interested in anyting but fathering children for others to support.
Living off government assistance. Why work when the government will take care of you.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
Whatever he makes, Bristol's getting about 30%
Achance Monday, April 6th at 9:09PM EDT (link)as Court formula child support. Alaska has vicious child support laws. It doesn’t usually enforce them worth a damn, but I suspect they’ll be enforced for Levi. Also, property or wealth acquired in a marriage-like relationship is the same as maritially acquired property and subject to equitable distribution.
In Vino Veritas
Achane, give us the 101 on Alaska Native, Joe Nelson nt
investedinterest Monday, April 6th at 9:38PM EDT (link)The only Joe Nelson I know of is a musher
Achance Monday, April 6th at 9:47PM EDT (link)from Kotzebue. I think they just named some trail after him. It’s a big state!
In Vino Veritas
He's the guy who Gov. Palin nominated for Elton's spot
AKSteveB Tuesday, April 7th at 12:27AM EDT (link)after she gave up on Grussendorf. 7 of the 9 Dems sent her a letter saying they stood behind rejecting him. Gonna be interesting. He isn’t on the list the Dems sent her, and he is a native. She was smarter on this one.
Hell is other people - Sartre
He's on the Sealaska Board, so the Juneau Ds
Achance Tuesday, April 7th at 9:36AM EDT (link)will probably object to a decadent capitalist representing them. None of the articles I’ve found say what his tribe and clan background is; that could be important in Tlingit dominated Juneau Indian politics. His wife Mary is a Yupik Eskimo from Bethel and a former Democrat State Representative from Bethel.
Anyway, the Downtown Democrat Peoples’ Committee is muttering about how he’s not experienced enough politically, so I doubt the Democrat Senators will confirm this nominee either. I feel the hand of the new AG in her taking that position on the open vote, so with only two weeks left in this year’s regular session, I seriously doubt Districts 3 and 4 will have any representation in the Senate this year, not that District 4 had any representation when Elton was still here.
In Vino Veritas
One way or another, between this, and Blago
AKSteveB Tuesday, April 7th at 2:23PM EDT (link)we have pretty good proof that the executive should NOT be appointing people to the legislative branch. Constitutional amendments requiring special elections need to be done.
Hell is other people - Sartre
Maybe Levi
larryp Monday, April 6th at 9:17PM EDT (link)can take Tyra to continuation school with him. She comes across as an illiterate, inarticulate dope at times.
Perfect plan.
Lets get Biden’s daughter on tv. Do a SNL type skit with all that.
How many of us here
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 9:22PM EDT (link)don’t have children or our children’s spouse/x/xbf/xgf/mil/fil that has not talked poorly of the other party to other people?
He is 18 or 19 and the Palins were the ones to introduced him to the world. I’m not excusing what he is doing, but they are old enough to know that teenage relationships are not usually stable. I’m sure he did not become this rude all of a sudden. What he is doing is very common.
Sure, What The Palins Did Bit Them in the Butt. But That's Not The Point Here.
IJB Monday, April 6th at 9:31PM EDT (link)The Palins “putting him on stage” thing is an issue that people on our side can look at, and debate about. (Personally, I’m in your camp - I wouldn’t have put him up there. But, then again, I’m not big on politicians even bringing *their kids or families* on stage. But that’s an issue for another time.)
But the point is that little pukes like Johnson who aid and abet the Dims and their politics of personal destruction are fair game for the same treatment from our side.
Levi wants to be famous (and hopefully rich)? OK. But he better watch his back. And he’d better be ready - because people on our side will be looking for every ex-girlfriend he ever slapped around, or every drunk girl he groped (or worse) at a party.
Fair is fair.
I understand that
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 9:57PM EDT (link)I guess what I’m saying is, this is what many people do when they break up, they trash the other side. We should kind of be expecting it, like I’m sure we have dealt with this from our children or their xspouses or xbf/xgf. We are criticizing him so much but I’m sure many of us here have children that have done the same thing to a former bf or gf or xspouse. There is a huge industry of divorce out there and most bring up fault after fault after fault after fault about the other party. How different is Levi talking poorly about Bristol than many of our own children after a breakup. People today are very immature and spoiled, they break easily, this goes on all the time.
We should also expect these type of teenage relationsships to break up or have conflict. Who knows in 6 months they could be back together again.
I meant
mom2oneson Monday, April 6th at 9:58PM EDT (link)I understand that, like I understand what you are saying now that you explained it like about fair is fair.
Sorry I read my post and the title looked kind of rude.
Okay, he's a teenager.
red4ever Monday, April 6th at 10:27PM EDT (link)His MOM was right there next to him. Why aren’t his parents saying “Son, I know you want to talk bad about the Palins, but that would not be the brightest thing you could do right now.” Instead, THEY are getting fame out of being the parents of the kid who knocked up Bristol Palin. The chain of attention is getting longer.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
All True
IJB Monday, April 6th at 10:25PM EDT (link)The difference is, Johnson went on national TV to air his dirty laundry.
That makes it ‘wabbit season’ on him.
Or is it ‘duck season’?
I can never remember which…
Levi shouldn't have been at RNC
TheArchitect Monday, April 6th at 9:45PM EDT (link)It was a private affair, and they had seemed to work it out like adults: he’d step up to his responsibility as a father and husband, she’d carry the baby. I don’t know what happened between them - I hate these entertainment shows; they’re so trivial - I don’t care. But, they should be left on their own.
It’s the media that gives these folks a platform to aggrandize themselves. The RNC made a mistake in letting him be on our platform.
We can’t background check everyone, like Levi, but we don’t need to promote them either.
…to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…
First
Matthew Monday, April 6th at 9:47PM EDT (link)First, I’m meh on Palin.
Second, I can’t really blame the Palins for making Levi into a sensation. The left did it by digging into past pregnancies and Bristol in the first place. Had they not forced the issue in the first place, we probably would never have been introduced to Levi in such a public way.
He made a bad choice; I’m not going to go out of my way to ruin him for it. But, if someone else does — as long as its perfectly legal like — I can’t say I’ll lose too much sleep over it.
We sure are jumping to a lot of conclusions here.
scottbomb Monday, April 6th at 9:51PM EDT (link)There sure are a lot of people who are quick to pass judgement without knowing all the facts. Don’t take the bait!
Bristol Palin and her boyfrind split up. It happens when you’re that age, even when a child is involved. Heck, it happens to people much older. This does not automatically make the kid a scumbag just looking to “knock up the governor’s daughter”. A breakup is not automatically indicative of anyone’s wrongdoing nor does it mean he doesn’t intend to support the child. Before passing judgement, ask him and Bristol why they broke up. Better yet, DON’T. It’s none of our business!
So he appears on TV all dressed up with a button-down shirt. Then he appears in a snapshot with a t-shirt and a rifle in his hands. What’s the big deal? Looks like a lot of people we all know: business dress Monday-thru-Friday, casual on the weekend.
Even if the boy IS a “redneck”, is there something wrong with that? I’ve been called a redneck yet I still have all my teeth and my GPA is 3.7.
The tattoo: y’all are jumping to some crazy conclusions. Shame on you for your own dirty minds. My teenage daughter has told me (more than once) that she wants to have her baby brother’s name tattooed on her ankle. She loves her brother. Is there something wrong with that? If I have her name tattooed on my arm, are you going to call me a child molester?
http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
I think
Matthew Monday, April 6th at 9:54PM EDT (link)I think the point is that, then — the Left painted him as a redneck and everything that was wrong with the world.
Now, he’s awesome.
What changed?
His relationship with Bristol. He, and his image, are just a tool. The sooner this is made plain, and it is clear that who he is, frankly, never mattered to the vast world — so that he stops being a rock to throw at Palin — and collectively, conservatives — the sooner he can go back to being some guy.
Awesome?
noufa Monday, April 6th at 11:22PM EDT (link)Most charitable thing I’ve heard is that his relationship with Bristol is a private matter. The left probably still thinks of him as a redneck. The worse he looks, the more it hurts the Palins. Guilt by association. It’s not fair, but that the way they will spin it.
Honestly, I don’t see how we fight that spin by attacking Johnson.
Patti Davis & Ron Reagan both did things that probably deeply hurt their father. Some on the left tried to argue that the rocky relationships proved Pres. Reagan was a bad father & a bad man. How did we fight that? Seriously, I’m too young to know.
“Obama is not a centrist. He was never centrist. He is a uniter. He does reach across the aisle. But he always do so in pursuit of progressive ends.”
-Jonathan Stein of Mother Jones 1/31/08
He has no choice about supporting the child.
Achance Monday, April 6th at 10:12PM EDT (link)As to the redneck part, he’s the sort of redneck that gives us real rednecks a bad name.
As I’ve said elsewhere, I looked at his FaceBook or MySpace while it was still up. He’s a semi-literate, foul-mouthed, mysogynistic punk.
In Vino Veritas
All you needed was his Facebook
Achance Monday, April 6th at 9:55PM EDT (link)or maybe it was a MySpace. It was up for a few days after she was announced. He’s a stupid, semi-literate, foul-mouthed mysogynistic punk. I know how hard it is to control a kid Bristol’s age, but in a sane world, Todd Palin should have killed that punk if he wouldn’t stay away from his daughter. No, I’m not really faulting Todd, I really do know how hard it is - first hand.
In Vino Veritas
This will come and go...let's all breathe...
tankertodd Tuesday, April 7th at 12:02AM EDT (link)I mean, he’s on TYRA. Joel McHale from the Soup rips on Tyra endlessly. She’s a joke. That he couldn’t do better is a good thing.
All this will pass. Let him enjoy his fleeting time in the limelight. The poor guy doesn’t know he’s screwed himself in the long run. Wouldn’t be the first time someone whored themselves to the media foolishly. Heck, he’s starting to sound like a Democratic senator.
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The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race - Chief Justice Roberts
Tyra Banks has a talk show?
paulincolo Tuesday, April 7th at 1:26AM EDT (link)Really? On TV? Not sure what the rest of you are commenting on, but I couldn’t get past the first line.
I must be spending too much time on the net. OTOH, not much of anything important could happen on her show, I guess I am fine.
You Missed Tyra's Special Show All About The Vagina!!
IJB Tuesday, April 7th at 1:32AM EDT (link)No, I’m not kidding,
With puppets.
Yeah, it really happened.
Well then, I guess something important did happen on her show. nt
paulincolo Tuesday, April 7th at 2:02AM EDT (link)nt
The Levi story is not a story
modgopgal Tuesday, April 7th at 2:48AM EDT (link)I wish the media would let this story go. It is a very private matter for the Palin family and has no business splashed all over TV, newspapers, and magazines. It is unfortunate this young man has decided to cash in on his ties to the Palins and that media is playing it up. This is so not a story.
I know my daddy would be fighting mad if an ex-boyfriend did what Levi is doing. And my dad is old school Italian. He’d have a few choice words with Levi in the back of some abandoned warehouse. It would not be pretty.
55555! nt
Rod_Patrick Tuesday, April 7th at 1:23PM EDT (link)