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Nancy Pelosi Tries to Have It Both Ways

According to Glenn Thrush at the Politico:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is pushing back on GOP charges that she knew about waterboarding for years and did nothing.

Pelosi says she was briefed by Bush administration officials on the legal justification for using waterboarding — but that they never followed through on promises to inform her when they actually began using “enhanced” interrogation techniques

So she says she got the legal justification, but they never told her they were actually going through with water boarding.

Well that’s a bit inconsistent with this 2007 Washington Post article:

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA’s overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

“The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough enough,” said a U.S. official who witnessed the exchange.

Way back in 2002, when Nancy Pelosi was actually rooting for us to win the war, she was happy for us to be water boarding terrorists. But in 2006, when she wa more interested in winning back Congress for the Democrats than the U.S. actually winning a war, she decided to throw under the bus all the people who kept us safe.

COMMENTS

  • http://cannedjam.com cannedjam

    I bet Nancy wishes Obama could have just left well alone. This witch hunt will not end favorably for Obama or congress.

    For Obama to have such a well organized machine I really can’t understand how his staff lets his message be so inconsistent – The American public wants to move on from Bush – and to tell you the truth, when all this is aired, average level headed people will find themselves respecting Bush more for what he did to make us safe

  • SteveLA

    Erick

    I wonder if Nasty Nancy realizes that there are lots of experts now at leaking, developed skill at the Agency during the Bush years, and those who really don’t like Obama and the Nasty Nancy will leak all sorts of information about what she knew and when she knew it.

    I think Cheney got it right, now that the memos are out, let the results of what those techniques produced come out too. Donks won’t much like the facts to come out.

  • Rod_Patrick

    And there are many of them in Washington DC.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    it doesn’t matter what was said 2 seconds before and with proof standing right next to them in0frame of the camera with them… they will just say whatever BS a Liberal needs to hear to believe… Them or or lying eyes?… the Liberals will choose the deception over the truth any/every time!

    Liberals =

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    she doesn’t ever seem to ever know anything… yet she is to be “followed” …. I guess the Blind do prefer the Blind leading them, so to speak.

    It was suggested that Pelosi be “put under oath” …. she needs to be put on a Lie Detector … or perhaps, water-boarded so she can judge first hand whether the tactic works at getting people to eventually give up the truth … it is certainly the only way she’ll ever give up the truth!

  • DONTREADONME

    I mean seriously, Nancy said she had no idea that the techniques were used and that is all the American public needs to know. Just watch MSNBC they will confirm Nancy’s story.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    she’d quickly give up the truth under water-boarding…. but then immediately thereafter perpetuate the line/Lie that she was just telling Republicans what they wanted to hear but not the truth — people with zero understanding of how a successful interrogation works would buy into that easy. That is, of course, really for another diary.

  • DONTREADONME

    Usually when people do not tell you anything that means they are hiding something. I think she assumes that the detainees pleaded that they knew nothing at all and the mean Americans did not believe them because you know Bush was the President and he wanted to torture people, Oh wait a minute that was Cheney forced the issue of waterboarding, yea that’s the ticket.

  • Praveen

    Now that the damage has been done, let everything come out. Selective exposure won’t fly.

    How can Nancy Pelosi say she was not told when these interrogation methods were used? These techniques were “devised/created” to be used. Nancy Pelosi is a pathological liar.

    Let the “Moral Police” face the realities of “war”.

    BTW… Wasn’t Harry Truman a democrat? I am not saying he did not act in the best interests of United States…. but isn’t frying people more severe than waterboarding?

  • http://nighttwister.blogivists.com NightTwister
  • spainishirish

    and she’s too clueless to realize it yet. There is no turning back from this suicidal posturing.

    There will be leak, leak, leak, leak from now until the mid-term elections about two things. The first is that, as Erick pointed out, Pelosi and company lied and supported these life-saving measures. The second is that, as implied in the first, lives were saved.

    The Democrats are on their way down.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    she has makes her look like she is always in the ozone

  • UpLateAgain

    She has stated publicly that she knew nothing about waterboarding. If a special prosecutor is called, she’s toast, because she’ll have to admit under oath or in deposition that she lied about that, or continue the lie. Word is, there are plenty of witnesses…..

    Is that a blue dress she’s wearing?

  • bobojake

    we can not stand another 2 years of these incompetent liars being in charge.

  • Doc Holliday

    nt

  • DONTREADONME
  • http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/lgartin wdgf
  • TNJim

    … now there’s an oxymoron for ya!

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

    Why do they seem so inept? Because they’re actors all doing a Borat act!

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

    To give up the truth requires knowing the truth. We’re talking about Pelosi here. Garbage In, Garbage Out.

  • SG_Lominac

    and losing the majority. Committes and speakerships will inevitably be chaired by moonbats who never lose an election. Pelosi, Conyers, Waxman etc.

  • fisk2521

    Maybe, just maybe Obama meant to cost Pelosi the speakership…. just sayin’

  • conservativemusician

    You know…the woman scorned thing and all.

  • conservativemusician

    Which is in large abundance on the Dem side of the aisle, both with their leaders and with those voters who stupidly continue sending them back to office to screw up the country for the rest of us.

  • conservativemusician

    Which is in large abundance on the Dem side of the aisle, both with their leaders and with those voters who stupidly continue sending them back to office to screw up the country for the rest of us.

  • Common_Cents

    I’d rather take a chance that voters actually send someone with half a brain once in awhile rather then constantly sending a knownLIB back to DC.

  • http://www.the41stvote.org rcov092

    most people do admire those with greater intellect.

  • Common_Cents

    “Obama Administration to Release Detainee Abuse Photos; Former CIA Official Says Former Colleagues ‘Don’t Believe They Have Cover Anymore’” Jake Tapper ABC newsblog

    These photos will be plastered everywhere but the media says they do us a favor by not publishing 9/11 or any terror photos against Americans.

  • mom2oneson
  • Common_Cents

    “I think people would tell you that there was information that was procured that was helpful and information that was procured that was made up,” Gibbs told reporters.

    “Nobody could ever likely tell you that any information derived couldn’t also have been derived from another means,” he added.

  • candoo2

    or just spewing talking points?

    I’m confused as to how this is a leak.

  • Doc Holliday

    they seem to be anathema to our rights to vote for whomever we wish. In practice, it seems they might be needed because of the entrenched interests/ DC corruption we all know about. But I still think we need to limit the stupidity of the electorate by getting rid of NEA and Drive by power. That is how we get this country back on track.

  • jazzycmk

    …..the Dems Iraq war claim redone.

    All those high profile Dems claimed that they didn’t realize their vote on authorizing force in Iraq would really lead to war. Apparently they were shocked into silence when the bombs started dropping because I don’t remmber them immediately protesting. No, they waited until public sentiment turned against the war and then tried to claim that they had been misled. What’s amazing is that so many people bought that. My reaction was always, “How could you not understand what you were voting for? You’re too dumb to be a rep of mine.”

    And now Pelosi is trying a variation of that argument. “I was told about these techniques, but didn’t think they would use them.” Huh?

    The difference now is that public sentiment is not in Pelosi’s favor. The more she presses, the more we’re going to find out that Dems knew plenty

    If I had to guess, Obama is going to push her hard to call off the dogs. This sideshow is serving its purpose for him. It’s distracting people from the ethical challenges of Rangel, Harman, Feinstein, and Murtha. It’s also distracting from the debates on cap & trade and health care, the latter of which the Dems are trying to fast track through the budget reconciliation process without allowing full debate.

    In a couple of weeks, if the ethical issues of his fellow Dems have blown over, and if he has gotten most of what he wants from Congress, he will magnaminously announce that he’s asked the attorney general to stop pursuing this so that we stop looking at the past and move to the future. MSM will hail him as “Obama the merciful” (although they will grumble in private about not getting their pound of flesh).

  • IJB
  • Robin

    I bet Nancy wishes Obama could have just left well alone. This witch hunt will not end favorably for Obama or congress.

    I hope it does end badly for all quislings of the torture regime.

    The American public wants to move on from Bush

    So bring Bush to justice and close that wound.

  • Praveen

    You are a born to be confused.

  • Praveen

    to divert attention. Tea parties had people focus on government access and economy. Its all about changing the conversation. With cap-n-trade and universal-healthcare.

    With healthcare you will slowly see intervention in human evolution. Remember that’s what founded planned parenthood. What better way to get rid of weak genetic folks than deny them healthcare and eliminate them. That is Progressives of the early 20th century for you.

    I don’t think democrats care about ethics issues. They never have.

  • Praveen

    .

  • Ned Reck

    If Nancy attended the briefings and claims she didn’t know about the “waterboarding”… she is grossly incompetent and/or lazy in her congressional position.

    If Nancy attended the briefings and claims the actual use of “waterboarding” was never discussed… she is a liar.

    In reference to Eric’s Topic Header: “Nancy Pelosi Tries to Have It Both Ways”

    In this respect… she can have it both ways.

    Ned Reck