Mark Levin has said over and over that it has taken 70 years to get to this point it might take 70 years to get the country back.

Yes it starts in 2010, but we don’t need total victory let’s get another 20 in the house two or three in the Senate. If they are conservatives then we will get further than if we win more seats but they are RINO’s

had decided in the last primary, Toomey would be the Jr Senator from PA in good standing to win re-election and we wouldn’t be experiencing all the hand-wringing about the Dems having a 60-40 filibuster proof majority. The problem in the last election was that the so-called professionals put their fingers on the scales in favor of an anointed candidate. They should bloody well leave the primary alone and let Pennsylvanian’s decide.

nyukid

Is that babble suppose to mean something, or are you just free associating or perhaps having flashbacks or something.

Not sure where you’re going with this nyukid. You may not think much of the polls, but I know that both parties live and die by them in the current environment…and there are some reputable pollsters that can be trusted (like Rasmussen).

Speaking of Rasmussen, the latest generic congressional weekly poll out today shows the GOP with a 3 point edge over the Dems, only the 2nd time this has happened in the last 5 years. I think this bodes very well for Toomey’s chances in PA as well as other areas of the country that will have tight elections.

Not sure where you’re going with this nyukid. You may not think much of the polls, but I know that both parties live and die by them in the current environment…and there are some reputable pollsters that can be trusted (like Rasmussen).

Speaking of Rasmussen, the latest generic congressional weekly poll out today shows the GOP with a 3 point edge over the Dems, only the 2nd time this has happened in the last 5 years. I think this bodes very well for Toomey’s chances in PA as well as other areas of the country that will have tight elections.

of course it is Lexington.

The NRSC no longer controls the party or the message. They couldn’t even keep Specter in the party.

We Americans.

We patriots.

NRSC knows we control the Republican Party now.

you donate/work for Toomey in a primary, then vote for even for the dead Repub over a live Dem in the election. We just don’t have the luxury

is David Axelrod’s.

A split GOP equals a victorious Dem party.

I was more happy yesterday with 59 Dem Senators then today with 60 coming

How happy are you over 60 Dem Senators?

Yes Toomey will face the dem machine, but Specter will face the economic realities at that time (if bad) and his former repub status (they can’t attack on half of Specters votes).

The social con fight may be dead at the fed level, but I guarantee the fiscal con fight is alive and growing.

ps - CO is no longer conservative heavy.

Ummm….when you find that critter called a ‘fiscally conservative, socially moderate’ GOP CongressCritter, you let us know.

Oh that’s right…Collins! (well, there’s that TARP deal)

But what about Snowe? (oh yeah, TARP and the stimulus package)

Specter? ummm, never mind.

But Linc Chafee was….oh that’s right, a social and fiscal liberal.

Look at the voting records, smagar. There is a direct correlation between a SocCons social record and his fiscal record. That would be because spending your grandkids money and slaughtering innocent babies are both - wait for it……moral issues!

Oh, and btw, there’s also a direct correlation between the fact that most ‘Pub CongressCritters who are social liberals also abandon fiscal conservatism at the drop of the hat - that would be their *lack* of a moral backbone.

Face it, folks, the social conservative fight has been lost at the federal level, at least for the next generation. Obama has too many Dem senators at his disposal for us to do anything meaningful to stop him. He’s going to pack the courts with healthy Kate Michelman think/vote-alikes. And, all those freshly-minted Dem senators from conservative-heavy states like VA, CO, MT, NC, AR and LA are going to help him do it. I don’t like it, but there it is.

This has very little to do with SoCon issues and more to do with self serving Republicans who should exorcise some truth in advertising and join their ideological brethren in the Dem Party!

We need to fight the fights we can win. For now, that means stopping this spending. While our kids have some money left. To do that, we need Senate seats. Political parties effect change by getting their people elected.

If Ridge has the best chance of taking the PA Senate seat, I’m for him..

Specter isn’t a fiscal conservative any more than he’s a social conservative…neither are Collins or Snow…they are abortion supporting, big government loving, union pandering liberals of the worse order and are to the left of any number of Democrats…

They voted for the $350 billion farm bill, the $750 billion tarp bill and the $800 billion “stimulus”…they voted against Obama’s budget only after they saw the outrage of Republicans who had elected them.

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

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It would take 67 senators to win const amendment battles, so on that I agree that federalism is the way on that, but when it comes to judges, you are way too pessimistic, to the point of being defeatist in a self fulfilling prophecy way if what you said were to go unassailed.

We have the younger justices and if we can make major gains in 2010 and win back the White House in 2012, then we can still win this war.

If PA GOP voters choose Toomey then we should all rally around him but if they choose a Ridge then we should rally behind him

This is a democracy right?

You know dod1717 that is quite ENOUGH

You’re telling dld1717 to stop expressing his opinions? Did Erick put you in charge on these boards? Or, have you appointed yourself as Redstate’s new Thought Cop?

Come to think of it…maybe you’re the one who should chill out a bit.

Redstate is a site dedicated to helping the Republican Party succeed. Upthread, you just pledged to devote your heart, soul, time and money to a third party effort.

Doesn’t that make you the one who’s going against the founding intent of this site?

Toomey has already been defined as a defacto Santorum in the views of a majority of PA ( I loved Santorum too). First impressions are very difficult to overcome. I think we all make them.

PA is a blue tilting state we can’t win I believe with such a Conservative person anymore here. Besides, PA Dems let Casey be their nominee just to win and we should be doing same now and its not like Casey has been with us on any major issues anyways

We can have both the minute enough people decide to have both.

The lesser of two evils?

Why is that even a decision?

Calm down.

I will support the Repubilcan nominee. I hope it is Toomey.

Ace, to your point, I support conservatives in the primary and Republicans in the general, but will not cast a vote for a pro-choice candidate period.

That said, I am under no illusions. Toomey will have a tough race, but he can win.

I also, by the way, am happy to be the party of Chris Shays. Chris Shays may not be great, but he would vote GOP for leadership and, unlike say Jeff Sessions or Jim DeMint, can win in Connecticut.

All that said, I think everyone needs to take a step back away from the computer and calm down lest Moe start getting restless with the blam stick.

Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?

NRO Corner, Michael Barone, excerpts from Frum (if you consider him on our side). I should have been clearer. I did not mean to imply I read such things on RedState. I too am of the Good-Riddance set.

with zero say for us will have an impact on all of us for rest of our lives

Enough said on your point

That would be my first choice, too.

We kept Strom and Hollings in for decades.

…is not so much that they don’t win blue states as that they aren’t very good at winning red states. It’s time to stop blaming Collins and Snowe and start blaming Jim Talent (lost to McCaskell) and George Allen (lost to Webb) for losing to Democrats and giving them the votes needed to pass their agenda.

We can also add Stevens and Conrad Burns to the list of Republicans in red states who managed to lose.

I have been pushing the difference between Red-Dog and RINO… I do NOT want a RINO in any situation - doesn’t matter the State…..

PA - is NOT a deep, absolute hard, Blue State (in most our opinions) so “I WANT/PREFER” a Conservative Candidate - they WILL be able to win in that State if they play it straight Conservative and clearly delineate the differences between a REAL “CONSERVATIVE” REPUBLICAN and the “squishy Conservative Blue-Dog” (that really just enable the Left agenda - as discussed here) ….. Democrats that have been running as Conservatives are winning the PURPLE-ish areas/States - we need to run real Conservatives in those areas and we can win!

OTHER STATES, however, like ME are the locations where others that are saying “can we give them a break” I say we can if we can get toward RED-DOGS rather than RINOs! There is a distinct need to differentiate!!!!!!

Why are we settling for McCain in the RED AZ???? At least it had been Red. McCain, IMO, has help squish it toward Purple, but it is certainly still RED now and we should be looking to REPLACE MCCAIN!

Michigan - has gone too far Blue (see my exporting/expanding BLUE-ism for more on that) at least in regard to whom we are able to get at the Federal level. I would be more than happy with a RED-DOG, not a RINO, as we are NOT going to get a full fledged Conservative, but hey I’ll certainly stand by the most Conservative candidate first and foremost should one decide to step up. I’m willing to try ONE MORE TIME!

It all matters on the State - we have to stop insisting on these absolutes - except for when it comes to our next Presidential nominee — we are all damn tired of the McCain squish type at the top of the Ticket…. A real Conservative can/will pull enough in Red and Purple States to get the Presidency — IMO and I know that of so many others.

Bottom line, again, for me — absolutely, positively, NO RINOs anymore, but those of less than 100% Conservative credentials are OK for me, in those BLUE areas - if they meet the Red Dog definition!!!

Its a fine line distinction that I do not expect is going to get full airing and sink in for a long time to come, but I hope that the discussions that have been occurring around here make a start by, at least, defining the terms better! There is a difference between a Red-Dog and a RINO - properly identifying whom are which becomes a big next task.