Are Republicans Finally Uniting?


Not waiting for the RNC to lead, House, Senate, and Gubernatorial Republicans have decided to unite and form a new organization to speak with one message. It is very similar to that which Haley Barbour did in 1993-1994. In fact, Haley Barbour is involved in this effort.

Called the National Council For A New America, Congressional Republicans tell me they “hope that it will form the foundation of a concerted, policy-based forum to listen to, partner with, and empower the American people with ideas and solutions that speak directly to the needs of our great nation.” It is not, interestingly enough, a fund raising vehicle.

More importantly, the major players intend to get all the big players and big egos in the same room and on the same page to combat Obama with one voice. Hopefully that will last. While they are trying to cast it as bipartisan, I don’t think anyone is going to treat it that way. What people should see is Republicans recognizing the precariousness of their position and that they are committed to doing something about it.

That Bobby JIndal, Haley Barbour, Mitt Romney, and Jeb Bush have all signed on should be very encouraging to very many people.

Below the fold, you can be the first to read the letter that will be going out tomorrow.

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Dear Friends,

The United States is the greatest country in the world, a beacon of hope, strength, and prosperity that Democracies worldwide seek to emulate. Our nation and its people have persevered through past challenges with strength derived from our common belief in freedom, liberty, and personal responsibility. Like every American, we look to the future with optimism for the great possibilities of tomorrow. Although today we face some of the toughest times in recent history, together, like so many generations before, we march forward with a vision for an even brighter future for our children.

Today, we are launching the National Council for a New America (NCNA), a caucus of Congressional leaders gathering the expertise of national leaders and doers. We hope that will form the foundation of a concerted, policy-based forum to listen to, partner with, and empower the American people with ideas and solutions that speak directly to the needs of our great nation. This forum will engage in a conversation with America that seeks to remove ideological filters, addresses the realities we are confronting, and speaks to the challenges our citizens are facing.

The NCNA will bring together citizens from across the country to begin a dialogue with the American people through a series of forums, town halls, and an online effort that will engage people in a discussion to meet our common challenges and build a stronger country through common-sense ideas. The NCNA will be a dynamic, forward-looking organization that will amplify the common-sense and wisdom of our fellow citizens through a grassroots dialogue with Republican leaders. However, this is not a Republican-only forum.

While we will be guided by our principles of freedom and security, we will seek to include more than just our ideas. This forum will include a wide open policy debate that every American can feel free to participate in. We do this not just to offer an alternative point of view or to be disagreeable.

Instead, we want to ask the American people what their hopes and dreams are. Since January, the President and the Democratic Majority in Congress have – rightfully so – put forward their plan for the future, now we must listen, learn and lead through an honest, open conversation with the American people that will result in building policy proposals that will yield the best results for our nation’s long-term success. Ultimately, however, we are only launching this effort. The real drivers will have to be the American people.

We invite Americans from all walks of life to speak with us as we begin anew rebuilding and reenergizing our nation. We do not pretend to have all the answers nor do we expect the NCNA to remain a static forum. Instead, this is going to be a living, breathing, expanding group that engages Americans from all walks of life. We hope to engage other national leaders, grassroots activists and citizens and invite them to work with us to solve problems with common-sense conservative solutions.

A Blueprint for our Conversation with America Economy:

Real Solutions for Economic Recovery

As the country battles through the worst economic crisis in a generation, we must remain focused on the foundations and institutions that have made us the most prosperous people in the world and the ideas that create jobs and grow our economy. At the same time, we must learn from the mistakes that led to the current crisis and to prevent similar situations from ever occurring again.

Healthcare: Building a 21st Century, Patient-Centered System

No one doubts that our nation’s health care system is in need of reform, but we must strike the right balance that builds on what works and fixes what is broken. All Americans deserve access to high-quality, affordable care. But such coverage cannot come at the expense of their ability to choose their own doctor and have access to the right care, at the right time, in the right setting without waiting in line while sick. In addition, we must continue to focus on the innovation and science that have resulted in thousands of treatments and cures for life-threatening or debilitating diseases while allowing America to remain the leader in research and development worldwide.

Education: Preparing Our Children to Succeed A high-quality education should not be dependent upon a parent’s income or address. All of America’s children deserve an education that will prepare them for the opportunities and the challenges that await them in the global economy. Yet today, thousands of American children, especially in our inner cities, receive a substandard education or find post-secondary education unaffordable. We must return power from Washington to parents and well-paid teachers who know what’s best for our children.

Energy: Solutions for Energy Independence American families and businesses cannot afford an energy policy where we are held hostage by foreign oil cartels and dictators. As a nation, we can no longer send billions of dollars overseas each year, often to countries that help fund our enemies. We must implement a comprehensive energy policy that includes traditional fuels, alternative energy, and conservation resulting in affordable, reliable domestic energy. Such a policy will stabilize costs for families and businesses while at the same time creating much-needed jobs here at home.

National Security: Defending American Liberty and Freedom The threats posed to our nation are more varied and evolving more than perhaps at any other time in our history. Modern communications, technology and the proliferation of weapons of all types have empowered our enemies and those who support them. Our national security policy must reflect these realities while allowing us to maintain technological superiority, support the most well-trained and well-equipped military in the world and have the intelligence capabilities to uncover and prevent attacks before they occur.

Our National Panel of Experts:

Governor Haley Barbour
Governor Jeb Bush
Governor Bobby Jindal
Senator John McCain
Governor Mitt Romney

These are not the only issue areas where we will engage America, but they form a starting point in our revitalization effort. In the coming months, the NCNA will focus our attention outside of Washington where American families are living and raising their children, working toward the promise of a better tomorrow, and where common-sense ideals are valued over pundits and the political winds.

We know America’s best days are ahead, but we need to work hard to ensure that promise. We also know that the American people want choices and alternatives – that there is no one right solution for what America and its people need. This is what our country was founded on, this is what we stand for, this is what we hope the National Council for a New America will provide and we ask our fellow citizens to join with us.

Sincerely,

John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Mike Pence, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, John Carter, Pete Sessions, David Dreier, Kevin McCarthy, Roy Blunt

Mitch McConnell, Jon Kyl, Lamar Alexander, John Cornyn

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One major and several minor matters must be dealt with to unite in a winning coalition, the first being that elected repubs lose the fear of Obama

Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, April 29th at 10:01PM EDT (link)

Jindal, oe of our stars recently went wobbly on this with with a knee jerk criticiam of Cheney that was over the top and bespoke a real fear of the PC police ad his youth.

We will NEVER represent the center right majority of this nation as long as we fear speaking the unapologetic unabashed conservative truth.

God’s providence is handing us the gift of libs on parade during a great recession. We must hang it on them.

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Agreed

DerKrieger Wednesday, April 29th at 10:09PM EDT (link)

The GOP needs to get it through their thick skulls that a) the MSM is almost entirely Liberal and therefore will never be on their side, heap praise on them (except when supporting Dems), b) We the People want leaders not weak personalities in search of approval from the MSM. We want people who have the courage of their convictions and don’t give a damn what anyone thinks or says about them. Miss CA would be a great example to the weak kneed bunch we have now.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” - Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence (OBAMACARE – mine), the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

 

Jindal and Cheney

Erick Erickson Wednesday, April 29th at 10:26PM EDT (link)

As Soren noted on the front page the other day, the story about Jindal criticizing Cheney was a total media fabrication.

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Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?

Erick, I heard the question and answer to Jindal

Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, April 29th at 10:49PM EDT (link)

Jindal was asked presented with a quote of Cheney about Obama policies making us less safe and Jindal’s response was to say that we shouldn’t question the patriotism and motives of Obama.

I am the witness! and it was a knee jerk paranoid answer. Cheney never questioned Obama’s intent or patriotism.

It was rookie mistake. Correct that, since so many of our veterans inside the beltway make it. It was fear of the PC police, loser mistake.

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Finally, finally, finally and

paulincolo Wednesday, April 29th at 10:51PM EDT (link)

I hope that “Real Solutions for Economic Recovery ” is also in bold in the actual letter (I notice those types of things).

I also hope they actually give sound policies out of this forum and not just chit chat. However, my hope is renewed.

finally, the video of Jindal's huge mistake

Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, April 29th at 10:56PM EDT (link)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/jindal-rebukes-cheney-don_n_188188.html

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Oh no, sounds like Newt - I hate this "moderated tone"

JLenardDetroit Wednesday, April 29th at 11:23PM EDT (link)

the …. let’s not alienate or irritate the Ultra-Left and/or morons that WILL NEVER consider voting for us anyway… can we work on getting those that do agree with us on the need FOR OBAMA’S AGENDA TO FAIL and be stopped at all costs to remain enthused. CAN WE BE HONEST ABOUT IT? We can’t gain peoples respect if we are NOT honest and be as bad as all the other PC morons running amuck….. All this “moderated” Give him a Chance Tone just dispirits the troops (I mean, Conservative voters) - IMHO anyway

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+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” - a Rush caller (other Quotes)

I write this off as a youthful moment of panic where he resorted to PC speak

Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, April 29th at 11:27PM EDT (link)

a very bad sign, but given his past great signs, I am hopeful he was just tired

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The actual video link...

MacAoidh Wednesday, April 29th at 11:30PM EDT (link)

Take the wax out yo' ears. Yes, in between the UNSOLICITED musings on not questioning Obama's patriotism

Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, April 29th at 11:40PM EDT (link)

he said said some good things, but this wasn’t even a situation where a lib reporter falsely suggested that Cheney had questioned Obama’s intentions or patriotism, yet Jindal Thrice felt the need to state that we shouldn’t question same.

pathetic

Cheney never questioned the liberal fool’s intentions or patriotism. He stated the fact that Obama’s policies make us less safe.

Yet, Jindal felt compelled to bow the the PC police even in their absence.

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Jindahl was having a bad attack of

redneck_hippie Wednesday, April 29th at 11:36PM EDT (link)

nerves. I’ve seen the same thing happen to Fred Thompson He just choked in the early part of the interview but then finished strong. He’s very young. He’ll learn.

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

I hope it is a rookie mistake. Ingratiating yourself with hostile media while denigrating your allies is never a good move

red_oakster Thursday, April 30th at 10:15AM EDT (link)

This kind of thing never happens to Dick Cheney or Bolton or Giuliani. It never happens to Steve Forbes. Liz Cheney recently showed how it’s done.

It’s called backbone.

 
 

I am certainly willing to give he benefit of the doubt

JLenardDetroit Wednesday, April 29th at 11:42PM EDT (link)

but I am not for Newt…. I will NOT support him anymore, he is NOT electable (too many issues) as I have moved on and unwilling to deal with McCain in anyway shape or form except demanding he tow the Party line NOW and until the next Republican majority (hopefully he’ll retire then).

I have given up so much time, money, effort, and my Health has suffered for it. I’m tired and won’t lend my loyalty to those who refuse to return it. It is hard, given all the propensity for these Politicians to LIE for us to distinguish who we can allow to linger a little Left and/or do the PC moderation thing (Red-Dog) yet be LOYAL and able to count on them in the future over those who are just playing us to get elected (RINO).

I grow weary trying to walk this tightrope.

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+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” - a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 

Agreed...

conservativemusician Wednesday, April 29th at 11:47PM EDT (link)

Cheney made real political points in going after Obama on the memo deal by being forthright and direct. and calling him out on the obvious hypocricy. Why Jindal and others like him in the GOP leadership can’t understand this basic principle is very frustrating. Going back to GC’s starting post on this thread, our leaders need to stop being afraid of Obama and go after him. The libs went after Bush right away on everything (deserved or not), so why should it be any different for our leadership?

At this point, no matter what they say or do, it will likely have little effect on Obama’s approval ratings, so they should take this opportunity to boldly stand up for principle during this period of Obama approval derangement syndrome. We have to start doing this sometime, so now should be that time. Time is fleeting and we want forceful dissent, not milquetoast moderation…and I really hope this lesson will be learned sooner rather than later.

thanks music man and one insight I think I bring to this issue from my many years as a dem

Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, April 29th at 11:56PM EDT (link)

is that there are 10-20% of dems that will vote GOP if the candidate is a fighter. Otherwise, they resort to default dem mode.

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55555! Dems WILL vote for a fighting Republican over a wimpy Dem

LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Thursday, April 30th at 12:58AM EDT (link)

Look at Obama. Is he a fighter?

He can’t be beaten at being a nuanced, dictator-hugging metrosexual. He can only be beaten if someone makes him operate out of his comfort zone. Think like Patton. Slap a coward!

Are there any fighting Dems out there? Or just a bunch of slimy weasels? You see, that’s why I think Toomey has a chance. That’s why a lot of the good guys have a chance. McCain will fight against a Republican challenger like he would never fight against a Democrat, which sucks. I wish he’d turn on the Dems every once in a while. Or even daily. Hourly? Would that be too much?

“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”

–Frederic Bastiat

Lj, this is a MAJOR part of my whole reason for writing at all!

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, April 30th at 1:20AM EDT (link)

and echos David Horowitz. Most Americans are with us in their hearts and minds, but the default position of so many is democrat due to history and family and liberal due to human nature. But if we give them a fighter to point to, they can take on the squishes.

Heck, this is the secret to Rush’s success.

more later

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And as Rush has often said...

conservativemusician Thursday, April 30th at 10:14AM EDT (link)

Most people live their lives conservatively, even if they don’t always vote that way. Perhaps, though, this will change soon as I know there were a lot of Dems at the tea parties. This bodes well for our chances next year.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

can you link and clarify GC?

Doc Holliday Wednesday, April 29th at 11:10PM EDT (link)

where did he criticize Cheney?

Molon Labe!

ok I found it

Doc Holliday Wednesday, April 29th at 11:13PM EDT (link)

not a Reaganeque move, we want a fighter not a whimp. I do question Obama’s patriotism.

Molon Labe!

agreed, above - we have people trying to walk fine lines

JLenardDetroit Wednesday, April 29th at 11:29PM EDT (link)

and that is what keeps getting us in trouble often… though I’m advocating one myself with the Red-Dog notion…. If it could only be that simple…. but I want our leaders being bold, forth-right, and honest - choosing a statement carefully I understand, but I do NOT think these are the right words… they are still too squishy! Something between FAIL and GIVE A CHANCE - is the trick that we have to solve.

As for me, though, I’ll stick with the I WANT HIM TO FAIL 100%
except for Return on Success from Iraq O has adopted in different terms to appease the Left but really be Bush policy
and if he adopts any other Conservative values and really mean them
pretty slim chances, ‘ey?

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+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” - a Rush caller (other Quotes)

 
 
 

I'm not into "wobbly"

Rapunzel46 Thursday, April 30th at 1:16AM EDT (link)

I’m into spine of steel… and that is what I want to see for it is what it’s going to take to overcome Soror-Obama, ACORN and a compliant media.

 

GC, if you speak "unabashed conservative truth,"

Achance Thursday, April 30th at 10:21AM EDT (link)

the first people to try to throw you under the bus will be elected and appointed Republicans. I don’t know how we cure this disease in the Republican Party. You’d think it would be a Democrat thing with all their PC, but Ds can say anything, be incredibly harsh, and nobody says a word. We controversy and nastiness hating Rs never, ever call them on it. Yet, if one of our own is at all harsh with the Ds, Rs fall over each other trying to be the first to disavow him.

In Vino Veritas

5 (n/t)

Finrod Thursday, April 30th at 10:44AM EDT (link)

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Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

 
 
 

We invite Americans from all walks of life to speak with us as we begin anew rebuilding and reenergizing our nation.

antisocial Wednesday, April 29th at 10:16PM EDT (link)

Erick,
How do we participate? Meaning the non-politicians. Or is it just a politician-only forum?

No you can’t - Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)

I'd like to know...

montanan Thursday, April 30th at 12:39PM EDT (link)

How we can participate as well. They said they want to know what our dreams are and I would be more than happy to tell them if it means that they start to understand the people they are supposed to be representing and governing. I’m so tired of watching clueless politicians try to characterize blue collar workers and white collar professionals with gimmicky names and “tragedies”. I happen to be the quintessential blue collar worker and I need government intervention in my life about as much as I need a back injury. If I could help to clear up the disconnect between lifelong politicians and people who work for a living, then I will. Especially if it means that the feds stay out of my life.

 
 

Good start...long time coming

SteveLA Wednesday, April 29th at 10:17PM EDT (link)

Erick

This looks like a a great development. A Republican group addressing real issues with real answers…what a concept. Hopefully they will cook up Contract With America II which will serve as common ground for all Republicans.

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Competency over ideological purity

Agreed...

conservativemusician Wednesday, April 29th at 10:46PM EDT (link)

We are continually criticized as a party of having no counter proposals to the liberal agenda (which is totally bogus), so having a united voice on all of these issues from all areas of the conservative movement will be very helpful as we move into the 2010 elections. Nationalizing local races as was done in ‘94 with Contract 1 delivered stellar results, so I am hopeful this can happen again if a Contract 2 is developed. I am wary of McCain’s involvment in this, so I really hope saner heads will be able to reign him in.

This time I hope they stick to that contract

Husker Wednesday, April 29th at 11:46PM EDT (link)

and don’t jettison it after getting elected like the last CFA.

 
 
 

Re para. 4

redneck_hippie Wednesday, April 29th at 10:17PM EDT (link)

Read you loud and clear Mr. Erickson.

In the letter, glad that national security gets equal billing in the list. The Ds know they are vulnerable on this issue and will do anything to get it out of the mix before the congressional elections. We must not let them divert attention from their disastrous policies.

And I better not hear one word in support of a carbon tax or anything related to it.

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

 

John McCain

edward_cropper Wednesday, April 29th at 10:18PM EDT (link)

Tell me how John McCain can be included with Republicans who are interested in speaking with one voice as a meaningful opposition to Obama and his fellow travelers?
McCain is a political joke which he has demonstrated all too often.
Until Republicans with a back bone ditch the likes of McCain, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and all the other spineless weasels now “representing” the Republican party they might as well give up any hope of succeeding.

Edward Cropper

It appears we may still have a serious case of “Moderate”-itus

General_Confusion Wednesday, April 29th at 10:36PM EDT (link)

The inclusion of John “Conservatives you better watch your back” McCain is NOT a good sign.

No doubt he is putting himself in position to torpedo any conservative initiative that would be successful but on the bright side he will get some great MSM press.

True, but then

Rapunzel46 Thursday, April 30th at 1:18AM EDT (link)

I’m not a fan of Romney — stick my finger in the air and see how the wind is blowing — Romney either. Fact is we are stuck with a lot of squisy people and it is going to be like navigating a mine field the next two to four years,

 
 

McCain is up for reelection next year...

conservativemusician Wednesday, April 29th at 10:37PM EDT (link)

Probably trying to earn some brownie points with the base similar to what Specter tried to do in going against Card Check. I agree with Rush in that he should leave the party and take his daughter with him, but if he is sincere about his support, then I guess this will be a good thing. It will be interesting to see how long he stays with this…especially when they start formulating some specific National Security policies in regard to illegal immigration.

 

Well then

SteveLA Wednesday, April 29th at 10:44PM EDT (link)

edward_cropper

If you’re unhappy with the membership of this particular group, which is just forming by the way and has yet to publish a single position paper, please give us all the link to a web site where others are working to unite the party behind a set of conservative principles of which you approve so that we may go and read what they have to say.

Seems like I’ve been reading many a diary bashing Republican groups for not being in tune with what the poster considers “true conservatism“, yet somehow I’ve had a hard time finding where they link to a web site where that comprehensive conservative philosophy is laid out for study and support. It makes it kind of hard to unite behind a set of ideas if they are not written down and not being promoted.

I can accept your point that these folks may not be getting things right, but if so, how do I go about reading what the other alternatives are that are better?

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Competency over ideological purity

McCain isn't competent

DerKrieger Wednesday, April 29th at 10:50PM EDT (link)

I don’t know how many enforcers of ideological purity exist but you have to admit that McCain is not even remotely Conservative nor likely to help this group. The skepticism discussed on this modest thread suggest his presence may hinder the group’s effort. Time will tell but if McCain insists on being the BMOC in this group they will have a hard time containing his arrogance.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” - Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence (OBAMACARE – mine), the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

Keep hearing that...but what are the facts?

SteveLA Wednesday, April 29th at 11:06PM EDT (link)

DerKrieger

McCain is wrong in my view on quite a few issues like enhanced interrogation, and a few others that others can speak volumes on, but what’s his record?

On Abortion

# Supports repealing Roe v. Wade. (May 2007)
# Voted YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
# Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
# Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
# Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
# Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
# Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
# Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
# Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
# Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
# Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
# Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
# Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)
# Rated 75% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)
# Prohibit transporting minors across state lines for abortion. (Jan 2008)

The Second Amendment

Wobbly at best.

On Defense, second to none on the R side.

McCain is all over the map on a lot of issues, but your assertion shows you really have not looked at what the real McCain record is. I’ll take McCain over quite a number of lessor lights in the Republican party who have are ideological purists and are hooked on Pork.

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Competency over ideological purity

 

That's just not true DerKrieger. McCain is one of the most competent

mbecker908 Wednesday, April 29th at 11:07PM EDT (link)

legislators in the Senate. When he wants to be. And he wants to be ONLY when it serves HIM.

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

Isn't that his most dangerous quality?

antisocial Thursday, April 30th at 12:22AM EDT (link)

He likes kicking his own party in the teeth. I think he relishes that. And he is very arrogant.

In short Mavericks are not good when devising strategies. Let us see how this turns out. I think this is a very good initiative. We needed such an initiative. Lets hope for the best and figure out how we can participate.

Steve this is for you…..
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He was for tough policy on Iraq and terrorism and then opposed EIT. On Iraq also he did flip-flop.
Immigration reform “ideas“.
Opposition to Bush tax cuts.
He was against business. He has vilified them too many times. That;s a liberal cliche.
Believes in Global warming.
Opposed to drilling in ANWR
He flip-flopped on Roe v Wade

Realize that we don’t only know McCain we actually understand him. Say anything you like but don’t tell us he is an Angel. As mbecker said he is good only when HE stands to gain. You might argue that’s what a politician does. Don’t pretend he is not a run-of-the-mill politician. Don’t make him what he is not.
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PS: These are probably discussion items for a different diary. Lets trust the judgment of the people who started this initiative and we will see. Contribute in any way we can and oppose when necessary. I want this to succeed. Note the “I”.

No you can’t - Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)

Don't EVER read "praise" for McCain into anything I say.

mbecker908 Thursday, April 30th at 8:52AM EDT (link)

You even come close to doing that again and a very angry Bunny will hurt you.

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

I was responding to Steve's comment and then I thought I'll use

antisocial Thursday, April 30th at 9:43AM EDT (link)

your comment to agree with your take and respond to Steve at the same time. You said something which is very true “When he wants to be. And he wants to be ONLY when it serves HIM.”

No you can’t - Moe Lane
——————————
The Emperor has no clothes!!!
——————————
Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)

Go buy a snark detector. Geeks.com has them. :>) nt

mbecker908 Thursday, April 30th at 10:45AM EDT (link)

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Some of us don't think John McCain is joining to "unite the party on a set of conservative principles"

General_Confusion Wednesday, April 29th at 10:59PM EDT (link)

Unless we are planning to continue on the “Let’s redefine conservatism” and “Reagan is dead” path. Seems to me that hasn’t worked out so well.

I wonder what his national expert contribution will be? Cap and Trade, Blocking conservative judges, Amnesty, etc…the mind boggles.

As far as alternatives you are seeking may I suggest http://www.heritage.org/ and http://www.clubforgrowth.org/.

 
 

Whatever. [NT]

Moe Lane Wednesday, April 29th at 11:26PM EDT (link)

If McCain is in ... count me out

Scott Mustian Thursday, April 30th at 12:01AM EDT (link)

The minute I saw McCain’s name I knew this was another “let’s be nice little moderates strategy.” The Beltway crowd does not realize the base has left them behind .. how many of these guys even bothered to attend a Tea Party in their state? Why do the they need to “dialogue” with the American people. How about some education on the reality of what we are facing and the tried and true solutions that conservatives will support.

Rush used to say the Democrats could not make a move without stepping in a pile of Cow excrement. It seems like the Republicans have mastered that talent.

Scott Mustian

In other words, ignore this diary of yours.

Moe Lane Thursday, April 30th at 12:06AM EDT (link)

My diary was unrelated to this.

Scott Mustian Thursday, April 30th at 5:35AM EDT (link)

Late night commenting may be ill advised as I must have been unclear. However, my statement in the diary in unrelated to this comment and was based on the Democrats rush to enact change and the short term reality we face for some monstrous issues. I wrote that before Specter flipped so it is more relevant now. I do want the Republicans to rush to return to principles and I don’t want to have to wait ten years to see that happen.

When you read the text of the statement, it was not inspiring. Too much looking for answers and political pablum versus offering solutions. For example they could not help themeselves to throw in a well paid teachers line versus taking on the teachers union and the public education monopoly directly. I could dissect each point as just being more Republican “talk”.

I was going to give it the benefit of the doubt until I saw McCain’s name. He is like the Bob Dole of the 00’s. At least Dole had the decency to retire when before he led the party down in flames. If they felt they needed McCain’s name on the list, then they are still living under the beltway delusion about what will return Republicans to power. Outside of DC, I bet you can not find one McCain voter in five who went into the voting booth excited about a McCain Presidency. I know in my area of Kentucky, it was just a resignation that we had no other option. (I could add McConnell to the list and I had to vote for him too. What he is doing to Bunning is shameful and I was pleased to see Bunning stick it to him yesterday.)

When Reagan ran in 1976 and 1980, he ran based on plans and principles about his vision for governance. In 1994, the Republicans in Congress ran on a platform of principles of governance.. They did not ask the American people what they wanted, they told the American people in simple terms what they would do. We do not have to have an exact repeat of those campaigns but basic conservative principles are universal and never changing. There are new needs and issues for which conservative solutions can be offered … let’s have a choice and real debate about the future of our country and let’s define the Democrats as who they are versus being afraid to be who we are. Here are three idea for example.

-Republicans will reverse all TARP spending and government investment in private industry without exception. The concept of too big to fail is no longer in practice. We believe in the free market.

-Republicans will cancel/rescind any unspent porkopulus spending enacted by Obama and the Democrats.

-Republicans will not increase energy taxes in any form on the American public. We are not going to sacrifice the economy on the very shaky hypothesis that carbon is a threat to our future. We know lower standards of living are a threat to our future.

I could go on and on; SPECIFIC lists of programs to cut; across the board employee staff reduction, return to federalism, etc., etc. Perhaps it is too early for this level of specificity but if McCain is involved I can’t believe this is anything more than politics as usual.

Scott Mustian

I agree .... more big government Republicans

jackbenimble Thursday, April 30th at 9:02AM EDT (link)

I read that statement and it seemed to me that we have a bunch of leaders that don’t have any vision for where they want to lead us. It was basically an admission that they were clueless and fresh out of ideas. Instead they basically announced a “listening tour”. Being suspicious, I almost got the impression that they were hoping to co-opt the Tea Party movement for their own benefit.

And frankly, it just sounded like they were planning to offer a bunch more Democratic Lite. The statement on healthcare, as just one example, was frustrating. My ideal Republican would recognize that the only Constitutional basis for the Federal Government to be involved in healthcare was from a security perspective. They should be protecting us from mass outbreaks of infectious disease. Otherwise most of the Federal health aparatus should be disbanded. I feel very similarly about the statement on education.

There was no evidence that they had learned a single lesson from the excesses of the last 8 years about small government or fiscal conservatism and these ideas don’t even get mentioned in their list of guiiding principles.

I won’t be uniting around big government Republicans.

“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat

 

Bravo, Scott!!

eburke Thursday, April 30th at 9:11AM EDT (link)

LOVED this line - “They did not ask the American people what they wanted, they told the American people in simple terms what they would do.”

Amen and hallelujah! If you ever decide to run for office…my checkbook is open!

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

 

:shrug: I see no reason to change my statement.

Moe Lane Thursday, April 30th at 9:37AM EDT (link)

Your response was more of the same: someone who has chosen to be on the outside, looking in.

Your privilege, but don’t expect me to pretend that you’re being helpful.

Confused

Scott Mustian Thursday, April 30th at 10:20AM EDT (link)

Moe, I am usually a big fan of your posts so I am still confused with your position. I am going to have to go back and read your posts again to make sure Megan McCain is not your new best buddy. :)

It sounds like I have to “Drink the Kool-aid” of politics as usual. I have done that with Republicans for past 20 years and they finally broke my faith. You call their office and get the standard form letter. You call the RNC and they just send a request for more money. They promise they are conservatives and then brag about securing Federal taxes dollars for a frigging fire engine. Believe me being a constituent of Mitch McConnell is a regularly disappointing relationship.

I realize that political compromise forces us to accept part of what we don’t like. While I did not vote for Perot in 1992, I think many learned their lesson about being taking out their frustrations on the party … that resulted in Clinton. However after being handed the entire government in their lap this decade the Republicans ignored their principles (and maybe the party). I am frustrated that once again I am expecting to fall in line. It has gotten so bad that many Republicans have to claim they are conservatives who vote Republican because they have no option. I probably fit the mold of 95% of Tea Party attenders … and I have been to both in Cincinnati. If that makes me an outsider so be it.

I know that by November 2010 those of us attending parties will have to fall in line for the best option available. But for at least this part of the cycle, can’t we ask for a little more from this current set of leaders? Can’t we demand they break out of their consultant tested comfort zones? Can’t we ask them to be brutally honest about the situation the country faces and the lies the American people are receiving from the Democrats? Why are they not as mad as we are and screaming at the top of their voices about the fraud being foisted on us?

Scott Mustian

 

Moe I agree, there is no ownership of the Republican Party

texas214 Thursday, April 30th at 10:46AM EDT (link)

For everyone who claims to be so conservative and only complains about someone not seeing things as they do is very short sighted. They should even include Snowe and collins in the group, not to go along with their beliefs blindly, but to hear them out, see what it is that the Northeasterners are looking for in a Republican Party.

Anyone or group so short sighted as to not listen and consider other Republicans points of view (even if they want to refer to them as RINO’s) is in a sense becoming a RINO them self. For many of these flame throwers it is always about the social issues and wanting a big government solution to the abortion or marriage issue. These issues, just as smaller government on fiscal issues should be left to the states, municipalities, and private sector to work things out. Churches and synagoges change minds and attitudes, not bigger government.

 
 
 
 
 

I wondered about that too

LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Thursday, April 30th at 1:00AM EDT (link)

I’m surprised Benedict Arlen isn’t on this list. Anybody know if he was on the first draft?

“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”

–Frederic Bastiat
 

jtkell100

jtkell100 Thursday, April 30th at 1:34PM EDT (link)

Edward, You are echoing my thoughts exactly. Why are Erick and all our Republican Leaders so dumb. I sure hope Sarah does not join this bunch. Just the mention of John McCain, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and Alexander makes me sick.

 
 

Well It's About Time

popdaddy Wednesday, April 29th at 10:25PM EDT (link)

I’ve been really depressed about the lack of initiative I’ve seen from current GOP congressesmen and Senators vs the Domestic Terrorist-in Chief.

Key word is current. This is a fine step for current but we have to have some serious consideration in upcoming primary elections about current. It may be time for better alternative.

This is a fine first step for procrting America from the socialists but we need to make sure to present the right individuals who will protect our freedom and capitalism.

Please leave Newt on the bench with or without Nancy to ponder how he fell off the bus. We don’t need him in 2010.

 

post secondary education

mom2oneson Wednesday, April 29th at 10:28PM EDT (link)

how is it unaffordable if they are low income? Most if not all community college is tuition is lower than the full pell grant amount. If they get a full pell grant most get money back even after the cost of books and supplies. Maybe I’m missing it but I think they are incorrect on that statement. There is also the SEOG grant and many states have their own state specific grants dependent on income level.

federal grants

mom2oneson Wednesday, April 29th at 11:09PM EDT (link)

pell grants
http://studentaid.ed.gov/PORTALSWebApp/students/english/PellGrants.jsp
Community college tuition is usually lower, but even if it was $100/credit, that would only be $2400/year for 12 credits x 2 semesters. The max grant (which a very low income student would get) is $4,731.

seog grants
http://studentaid.ed.gov/PORTALSWebApp/students/english/FSEOG.jsp
(this is campus based and determined by the school and some pell grant recipients are not awarded this becuase their incomes are higher)

main fed grant page
http://studentaid.ed.gov/PORTALSWebApp/students/english/grants.jsp

Plus most states have their own grants too.
There are different campus based programs that give different types of support like TRIO for first generation college students and JTPA (has residential programs but will also pay for uniforms for “applied” programs at community colleges like registered nursing. There are some others too that will pay for bus tickets or daycare in an emergency or fees for supplies but I can’t think of them right now. There is sooo much help for college for the low income, it’s really amazing. This is all apart from any academic based grant.

 

the more

mom2oneson Thursday, April 30th at 1:18AM EDT (link)

I think about this the more disappointed I am. It’s just so upsetting these people are wanting to make decisions that effect a lot of people and they lie about what the situation is really like. I really thought it was a democratic thing, that they lie and pretend like already there gov programs don’t even exist to push their own thing, like I heard Mr. Reid to for the stimulus bill. Except for Newt (due to the horrible things he did in child welfare and his ideas about teenage mothers), I thought the republican leaders were really good and honest and out to help people. I’m so disappointed. :(

 
 

Let's do this

SteveM Wednesday, April 29th at 10:36PM EDT (link)

How do we get involved?

 

McCain?

DerKrieger Wednesday, April 29th at 10:39PM EDT (link)

I don’t know how seriously I can take this effort with McCain involved. Is there a way to contact these people to let them know we’re supportive of the concept but McCain’s involvement bespeaks, IMO, a lack of seriousness in addressing real reform.

“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” - Thomas Jefferson

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence (OBAMACARE – mine), the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

I'll await developments.

redneck_hippie Wednesday, April 29th at 10:43PM EDT (link)

Best case, someone puts a sock in if immigration, EIT, or AGW come up.

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

 
 

Wake me up when...

clement Wednesday, April 29th at 11:09PM EDT (link)

DeMint, Vitter, Inhofe, Coburn, etc sign on. I see a few house members I like there, nothing in the senate. It is a start I guess

No. If you don't feel like working now...

Moe Lane Wednesday, April 29th at 11:24PM EDT (link)

…you never will.

So there’s no point in “waking” you up later.

5

smagar Thursday, April 30th at 12:44AM EDT (link)

:)

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

 
 
 

No. nt

redneck_hippie Wednesday, April 29th at 11:31PM EDT (link)

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23.

 

I must say, I have a problem with some of this platform

Doc Holliday Thursday, April 30th at 12:09AM EDT (link)

to say it is just a bunch of generalities would be to give it more depth than it deserves. All Americans DESERVE the best health care? All Americans DESERVE the best education? We MUST use alternative fuels?

I wish we lived in a Utopia as much as the next guy, I think I DESERVE a date with Kathy Ireland. But if they are going to start a new Contract with America, they should be more specific. I read little about small government and maximum liberty.

Molon Labe!

I greatly restrict my use of the word "deserve", probably

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, April 30th at 12:17AM EDT (link)

due to my original sin Christian understanding, but also due to legal reasoning.

I usually only use the word with respect to contracts.

more later

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

I look forward to it GC, you "more later" tease!

Doc Holliday Thursday, April 30th at 12:23AM EDT (link)

I just think it is social engineering and price controls at its worst. Who decides how many doctors we will have and how much they can make? What if the remuneration does not bring in the supply? Do we then force people to become Docs?

And I don’t mean part time dentists and full time gamblers :)

Molon Labe!

Some more later now: the "deserve" language represents a conservative loss, if it stands

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, April 30th at 12:35AM EDT (link)

It is totally anathema to conservative principles and one of the false arguments used to justify taxation confiscation for big government.

What bothers me much more though is the totally unnecessarily timid energy language re “traditional fuels.”

Damn.

Now is the time to be aggressive re oil drilling and building nuclear power plants and oil refineries. Sell it as a jobs program. $4/gal gas and the facts have made the former feel good global warming fetish a national joke.

Lets be aggressive. If his new org and redstate are truly the real right and even we bow to PC lib language, then we are toast as a nation.

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

Agreed! 555555!

JSobieski Thursday, April 30th at 9:51AM EDT (link)

Deserve is one step away from entitlement.

We deserve a chance to make our way throuh life as free men and women—-that is what we deserve from government. The rest is up to us.

I agree that health care reform should be a poitical advantage to Conservatives and that we need to sell it from a position of strength—but the word “deserve” is third-way Republicanism


 
 
 
 
 

YES, TO THE ANSWER THE QUESTION, CONSERVATIVES AND MOST GRASS ROOT REPUBLICANS and tea party dems

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, April 30th at 12:36AM EDT (link)

are uniting and we are much more aggresive than those tenets.

Want to wait till unemployment is 12%? cool

We’ll be waiting for you.

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

This reads like it has Newt's fingerprints all over it

LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Thursday, April 30th at 1:07AM EDT (link)

And then it got wimpified by the nuance-meisters. But really, look at the first couple of paras and tell me that doesn’t look like the Real Change website. It needs to be toughened up. It needs to be fortified with free market economics. That’s what the TEA Parties are all about. And the wave of change in America is NOT toward traditional Republican ideas. It is toward Libertarianism conjoined with American Exceptionalism and the Classical Liberal ideas of the founders.

“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”

–Frederic Bastiat

right on LJ - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, April 30th at 10:00AM EDT (link)

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

 

right on LJ - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, April 30th at 10:00AM EDT (link)

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

 
 
 

Good To See

OccamsRazor Thursday, April 30th at 12:44AM EDT (link)

The blood letting of the party with this timing. With enough pressure, the new strain of Conservatisim will be purer, focused, and stronger-ultimately, with real results.

This is a good part of the start.

 

GOOD!

Rod_Patrick Thursday, April 30th at 1:16AM EDT (link)

Make sure that “no Republican is left behind” in order to make it an EXCELLENT effort. Everyone should be included and participatory to this CAUSE.

Bravo!

 

The names John McCain and Jeb Bush suggest Gingrich "Solutions" coming up

katesmith Thursday, April 30th at 3:25AM EDT (link)

As long as John McCain and Jeb Bush are involved, it is suicide for us. How dare these nut cases hog the stage at this late date? With all their years of wealth and access, they have ruined our lives.Bush has publicly chastised us recently, McCain is the reason we have lost the country. I see this as an attempt to shut us up. In my view, they are as deadly serious about keeping us out (and Sarah of course) as I am of getting rid of every name on this leaders’ list.

With Jeb, you should look beyond the last name.

Martin Knight Thursday, April 30th at 5:02AM EDT (link)

Jeb Bush is a star. Unlike his brother, he was a full-fledged partisan fighter and a full-spectrum conservative. The only reason the FL Democratic Party is showing signs of life after Jeb left the FL Governor’s office is Charlie Crist.

Birds of a feather with McCain he most certainly is not.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

Seems like I heard something similar in 1999

jackbenimble Thursday, April 30th at 9:11AM EDT (link)

With Jeb, you should look beyond the last name.

George did not look too bad as Governor of Texas either.We were tolded to look beyond his “read my lips” last name and we got burned.

Jeb is awful on the illegal immigration issue so full spectrum is a stretch.

Whether it is fair or deserved or not, there are a whole lot of Americans and a whole lot of conservatives that will never again vote for a Bush.

“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat

 
 
 

It's about time

Andrew_D Thursday, April 30th at 3:52AM EDT (link)

The GOP has to get back together. If we put forward a new “Contract with America” styled solution with youthful and fresh leadership we can create a wave in 2010.

Some of us are going to have work for the greater good. I am afraid that too many in our party are playing a zero sum game.

 

I'm not impressed!

Scope Thursday, April 30th at 6:57AM EDT (link)

Like so many above, when I saw McCain’s name listed, I knew what to expect from this effort. The letter reads from the “moderate, big tent” playbook. It is nothing more than pandering. As GC said, we need strong leaders that are willing to forget PC, who have the guts to point out that Obama and the Libs are rushing us into Socialism, and a country in tatters and ruins. Then come up with some strong, doable ideas that will lower our taxes, give us back our freedoms, keep us safe from those that hate us, and want to see us on our knees, and give the power back to the people and the states.

As someone noted above, where is Demint & Inhofe & Palin and a few others? Yet we see names like McCain, Cantor, McConnell and Boehner, all of which have proven voting records that can’t seem to stick with even remotely Republican principles like not voting for the 90% bonus tax, the TARP funds and couldn’t muster the guts to stand up to some of Obamas most horrible appointments. There is no question in my mind that McCain is looking at his 2010 re-election race. If he wins reelection, he will appologize for belonging to this group, and he will slap the Republicans in the face again for another 6 years.

This group should change it’s name to the National Council for a Little Less Left America, or National Council for Socialism Done Our Way.

 

Where is the fiscal conservatism?

jackbenimble Thursday, April 30th at 9:24AM EDT (link)

Or even the sense of fiscal responsibility?

Even Olympia Snowe (who only practices fiscal conservatism sporadically and certainly not recently) in her recent Arlen Spector lament recognized that fiscal conservatism is the glue that Ronald Reagan used to unite Republicans under the big tent.

Anger at the lack of fiscal conservatism is the main reason that Republicans got thrown out of power in 2006 and 2008.

Anger at the lack of fiscal conservatism is the main impetus for the TEA Party movement.

And these so-called leaders are too clueless to recognize that and don’t even mention fiscal responsibility or small limited Federal Government as a guiding principle? Or maybe it is that they are all a bunch of GWB style big government Republicans and they are just as addicted to taxing and spending as the Democrats. They just want to spend it differently and just as they were before, direct a lot of it to K-Street.

“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat

Snowe voted for porkulus! She's not serious

red_oakster Thursday, April 30th at 10:34AM EDT (link)

All these collaborations are less important than finding conservative candidates who can win in red states and red districts. And finding Judd Greggs and Rick Santorums to run in blue or purple state. We won’t win all those races in blue states, but we can win enough of them.

I have not seen any effort to identify a strong conservative senate candidate in either North Dakota or Washington for 2010. We need serious challengers in every district held by a Blue Dog. I’ve believed for a long time that conservative blogs can help bird dog candidates. Indeed there are folks at Red State whose background and good judgment commend them for public office. I’d love to see a Jeff Emmanuel run in Georgia and Dan McLauglin run for the congressional seat representing Staten Island.

Talking and policy is important, but finding more Coburns and Kyls to add to the Senate is much more important.

I hope red state can figure out a way to play a key role in talent spotting.

I'm all for finding good candidates

jackbenimble Thursday, April 30th at 10:46AM EDT (link)

I’m all for finding good candidates. And I agree completely with what you wrote.

And I also agree that Olympia Snow is not serious. Maybe you missed my parenthetical comment above? But at least she understands what is SUPPOSSED to unite us.

I think you missed my point. This diary was about uniting Republicans and specifically it presented a letter that presented an outline of the principles and positions that we were going to unite around.

The only leg of the Republican stool that all of us agree on (except perhaps the leaders who wrote this letter) is fiscal conservatism. This letter is supposed to be a document that we are going to unify around and it makes no mention and does not even give a hint that it understands that fiscal conservatism is what unifies us and it is what the Republican base and the independents in the TEA Party protestors MOST want.

“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat

 
 
 

Wow, more of the same.

AskMeLater Thursday, April 30th at 9:29AM EDT (link)

The discussion of the economy, health care and energy sound very similar to Democrat talking points. All about how government is going to secure these things for us. I guess the devil will be in the details. Still, this is a poor way to frame the debate on these topics. It essentially says, we agree with dems that something must be done. We just want to do it a little different. If only they would propose a simple no non-sense limited government solution. They could address all three problems in a way that respects individual freedom and conservative principle.

The reason they don’t offer such a proposal. Is because they themselves don’t believe in limited government. They feel they and they alone can solve our problems. Wrong, only individuals making decisions for themselves. Free of manipulation and coercion from the government. Can make the best decisions for themselves. We don’t need more legislation or contracts. We have the Constitution. If only they had the guts to follow it.

I have beef with their national security discussion too. No matter how bullish you are on foreign policy and national security. You must ask yourself. When they say we have the best. We must stay the best. Ask yourself, How far are you willing to go? Will you do as the Soviet Union? Spend so much money chasing a dream that you hinder the very people you are protecting. I believe it is dangerous to continue this charade. The idea that America must the best and most powerful military, intelligence and security apparatus in the world. We need what is required to keep us safe. Nothing more. Note the best money can buy or the most advanced in the world. Just what is needed to do the job. How many billions/trillions have been spent by government. So we can have the best money can buy. The best education money can buy. The best health care money can buy. The focus should not be on the best or most advanced. It should be based on what is needed to defend America. Nothing more, nothing less. This best and most approach tells me they don’t know what we need. So they will just make sure we spend a ton of money on it.

The position being taken is not to be mistaken
For attempted education or righteous accusation
Only a description just an observation of the pitiful
Condition of our degeneration

 

Here we go again.....

dmartin Thursday, April 30th at 9:47AM EDT (link)

Does anyone remember the 08 campaign????? Are we really stilll looking to McCain, McConnell, and the rest of the TARP yea invertebrates for leadership? If the first real people on board this thing dont jetison the political dead weight it will never get off the ground!!

 

I'll give John McCain a pass on this one

Finrod Thursday, April 30th at 10:49AM EDT (link)

And coming from me, for whom John McCain was my dead last choice for the Republican nominee, that’s saying something. Maybe Sarah has worn off on him some, maybe he’s realizing where the core of the GOP is, but if he wants to at least pretend to be a real Republican, what the heck, I’ll encourage him.

If he backstabs us again, though, I’ll call for his head on a pike.


Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

 

We need to quit the "they're not worthy" discussion

texas214 Thursday, April 30th at 12:42PM EDT (link)

All Republicans should be invited to join. Just because a senator/congressman has voted for or taken a stance you did not appreciate it doesn’t mean he is not worthy. Maybe getting them involved, instead of ostracized, will move them to a more mainstream Republican position. Kicking them to the curb for a vote that some don’t appreciate is a sure way lose. (Specter aside in this arguement as he is just chicken*&#t to debate his beliefs)

If you look at even the best Republicans (Reagan included), I’ll bet there are issues on which posters at this site would disagree.

 

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