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By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  May 21st, 2009 at 02:05 PM  | 

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Yesterday, I ambled over to John Cornyn’s page on Facebook and wrote on his wall.

I told him, very politely, that I was disappointed in the NRSC endorsement of Crist. At a time when Senator Cornyn says we can capitalize on the anxiety people have about spending and deficits, it undermines his goal by endorsing a man who supports the spending and deficits and also says he’d vote for Obama’s stimulus.

Senator Cornyn responded that given a recent third party poll showing Crist at 54% and Rubio at 18%, Crist is the candidate who can hold the seat and the NRSC wanted to go on and support him.

I responded that there were more than 365 days before the election, Crist was elected statewide with high name identification, and Rubio has 365 + days to show people that Crist would support the policies that are increasingly unpopular in Florida.

I tell you this all here because you cannot now go to John Cornyn’s page at Facebook to see the exchange.

Whoever runs the page for him has deleted it.

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  • David_Rasbold

    nm

  • Aaron Gardner

    at any rate I hit the little “like” link on you comment….very respectful but still direct.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Yeah, delete the comment. You’ll turn what was going to be on Facebook, and get a certain level of exposure, into a RedState front page post, and get much more exposure.

    FAIL.

  • Mayhem

    Honest question… Suppose Cornyn and the NRSC do pull back the endorsement. What is stopping them from just working even harder behind the scenes to get him through the primary next year? Is there any meat to this battle, or are we just fighting for aesthetic purposes?

    Either way, go Marco.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Secrets like that are very hard to keep…and when they get exposed they would take Cornyn down…I don’t think Cornyn is an idiot and you would have to be one to do what you suggest.

  • izoneguy

    I may have to re-think that support in the future.

    Maybe it will be time for John to say adios as well.

  • KeepOhioRed

    at almost the exact same time as you did Erick, and noticed too that it was gone this morning.

    Actually, I was surprised that he even personally responded to us at all, and respected him for that. But now that the post has been removed, it kinda negates that.

  • Brian Hibbert

    Brian Hibbert As a person who recently got roasted when I called for party unity, I have to tell you that unity requires cooperation on both sides. The NRSC’s decision to get involved in primary politics has caused more disunity in this party than any other single action I can name. Please follow the lead of the FL state GOP and back out of the primary process.

  • bs

    You’d think a veteran politician could take a few questions. Must have hit a sore spot.

  • LibRick

    Calling out Cornyn on an issue. I wish we had that on our side.

  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    has called for Pelosi to step down.

  • JadedByPolitics

    ..

  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    and ask why not one has called for Pelosi to step down and why they are letting the Dems play tough on defense re Gitmo?

  • AceInTX

    refuting your comments…or was it a staffer who replied and Cornyn who ordered it taken down?

    I’m not happy with Cornyn and his behavior but want to give him the benefit of the doubt on this point..but would like to see him answer the charge!

  • Aaron Gardner

    Erick has…;^) I know that isn’t what you meant though.

  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    is so wrong

    see also that not one repub has called for Pelosi step down

    none hold dems responsible for being wrong on Gitmo all along

    and Cantor on the 90% AIG tax

  • AceInTX

    pathetic!

  • AceInTX
  • bs
  • Aaron Gardner

    it.is.your.destiny.

    ;^)

  • Aaron Gardner

    Go HERE

  • Mike gamecock DeVine
  • theadmiral

    …and just another example of how this country is becoming more divided each day;

    left v. right
    those in government v. those in the private sector
    inside the beltway v. the rest of us

    The fact that the GOP House leadership isn’t screaming hourly calling for Stretch’s head is just another example of the divides listed above. My wife and I call Eric Cantor’s office weekly, in complete exasperation about why the GOP leadership isn’t exposing this Marxist administration and the lies and corruption of Pelosi and her ilk. And either we’re the only ones who feel this way in west Richmond or there are just drones answering the phone, sick and tired of listeing to us with no intent on changing their ways or challenging what’s happening in the country.

    The whole Cornyn endorsement of Crist is just another example of political cronyism. Why in hell do we want to send another Marxist-lite to DC under the cloak of the GOP…..and that’s right, that’s what it is, Marxism, plain and simple. Anyone supporting cap and trade or Porkulus or the 90% AIG tax is a Marxist.

    It’s past time for torches and pitchforks……..

  • AceInTX

    Ace Swiger As a San Antonio resident, since 1998, I’ve supported you for quite some time. I was glad to see you take the NRSC post because I thought we finally had someone who would put an end the strategy of supporting left of center Republicans tin contested primaries to supposedly win, (funny thing that…we’ve lost every time it’s been tried), but then I see the NRSC jump in a full year and a half before the 2010 elections to support a liberal candidate in the mold of Lincoln Chaffee, (Lost his last election) and Arlen Specter, (became a Democrat).

    Shame on you Senator for using party resources to rob Republican voters in Florida of a choice in who should represent them going into the 2010 elections!

  • KeepOhioRed

    but who knows?

    Ericks wall post was polite and respectful, as were all the comments that I remember.

    Cornyn responded.

    Both of us responded “Thank you for responding Senator, however…”

    Now the whole post is just gone. I think others were deleted as well.

  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    those in government v. those in the private sector
    inside the beltway v. the rest of us

    That NOT ONE elected republican gets in right on pelosi and gitmo…

    God help us

  • lawguy9801

    that was deleted from Cornyn’s FB page. Really, really po’d right now!!

  • KeepOhioRed

    (yes its mine)

    Reagan would weep at how you GOP Senators have abandoned our party’s principles. Endorsing Charlie Crist?! A man who campaigned for Porkulus with Barack Obama?!

    You are continuing to demonstrate that you don’t get it. People like Marco Rubio are the future of this party and are true to Republican principles.

    Please please WAKE UP. We aren’t lefty trolls criticizing you, we ARE YOUR BASE.

  • AceInTX

    They must hear from us…and if they delete out posts it just shows that they don’t give a hoot in hell what we think

  • theadmiral

    And I’m struggling with what we as the people can do. Clearly everything that could be done to destroy this country is being done by the Obama administration but I actually think the GOP is complicit in the whole dismantling of the Constitution based on their silence alone.

    Where was the GOP:

    When GM and Chrysler were taken over by the government and essentially given to the UAW?
    When the freaking SEIU was actually at the table when Obama was threatening to withhold Porkulus funds from California?
    When the Treasury was (and still is) not allowing repayment of TARP funds, even by banks that didn’t want TARP money to being with?
    When the ACORN suits started popping up? There is clearly something really, really wrong with the whole ACORN/SEIU connection, where the millions and millions of federal dollars have gone and how in the hell they are going to spend $5B more….

    There are obviously more examples but the one constant is the silence of the GOP leadership…..and frankly almost everyone in the Republican party, The people are dying for someone in a position of political leadership to say the same things that talk radio is saying…..pull no punches about what Obama is doing to this country, how there will be no recovery once this wave suffocating growth of the federal government is complete.

    Where’s the line in the sand now for the people to act?

    Continual shedding of 600K+ jobs a month?
    When the dollar collapses?
    When the Dow is at 4000? (And yes we’re going there…..)
    When the federal government bails out CA (and NY,and NJ and Michigan and MA)? How are people in Montana and Idaho and Texas and Okalahoma, etc…. going to feel about their taxes dollars being spent to reward Marxist ineptitude?

    This is not going to end well and stunts like Cornyn’s endorsement of Crist in concert with GOP silence makes you wonder if they aren’t in on the whole damn thing.

  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    DON’T GET FRIENDLY WITH THE ELECTED REPUBS IN DC!!!!!!

    When NOT ONE elected repub gets it right on Pelosi and Gitmo, and when our “stars” screw up AIG, etc and can’t wait to praise Obama when on TV, they need to be SHAMED, and if we don’t do it because we have gotten to know them personally…

    Am I making my point?

  • tcprath

    Ace…I dig the post to Cornyn. As a San Antonio/Austin resident and life long Texan, I want to know what happened to the Senator that I voted for? Where are the Texas values that we expect from our elected officials? And it seems to be lost how Cornyn supported Specter even after he jumped ship. the Crist support should not surprise anyone…it is right in line with his support of Specter…

  • lawguy9801

    Can you see why Cornyn didn’t like it?

    ?Senator Cornyn, I appreciate that you are active on your own Facebook page, unlike many other Congressmen. I read your post below about why the NRSC supports Charlie Crist over Marco Rubio – I was particularly intrigued by your comments that (1) Senate Republicans must stand against Democrat excesses, and (2) the Republican Party must account for regional differences in recruiting candidates.

    (1) The notion that Charlie Crist would stand against Democrat excesses is dubious at best. As you now know, Crist has said that he would have voted with Snowe, Specter and Collins in favor of the disastrous, boondoggle, Democrat-interest-group-payback ?Stimulus? bill. In light of the fact that NO Republicans in the House and only the three aforementioned moderate-to-liberal Republicans (or former Republicans) voted in favor of that absolute travesty, the notion that Charlie Crist would be anything other than a newer version of Arlen Specter does not withstand any scrutiny.

    (2) I generally agree that the party should take into account the character of the state in which the candidate is running. However, I think it is ridiculous to imply that Marco Rubio cannot win a Senate race. The bottom line is that Florida is a center-right state. First, he starts off with the Cuban Republican base in south Florida firmly on his side, and likely the conservative northern part of the state will also be firmly behind him. That leaves the swing areas in central Florida. Are you saying that Rubio – a young, articulate, intelligent, telegenic candidate with a record of accomplishment – is at a disadvantage against Kendrick Meek, the likely Democratic nominee? I find that very hard to believe. Yes, perhaps Rubio doesn?t have Crists?s high name recognition right now, but he has time to fix that in the year and a half before November 2010.

    ?The bottom line is that I ? and many other conservatives ? am irate that the NRSC has chosen to snub a principled conservative who CAN win Florida in favor of a completely unprincipled politician who polls well but seeks power for power?s sake and not to advance any sort of a conservative agenda. (E.g. would any governor with a semblance of conservatism take over his state?s property insurance market?) If this were a primary election in, say, New York or California, your argument may have a bit more strength. However, Florida is very winnable for Rubio in the general, and there is no excuse to throw him overboard in favor of Crist, no matter how superficially high his poll numbers are now. I sent back my NRSC mailer with a $0 donation and a request to take my name off the NRSC mailing list. Until I see a better strategy to advancing the election of as many conservative Republicans in the Senate as possible, I will be donating to individual candidates as I see fit.

  • izoneguy

    They probably are…

    Let’s get rid of all 535 of them and start over.

    There have to be more competent & able people out of the 320,000,00 people who live here?

    People need to learn to get off their asses and do for themselves….

  • Brian Hibbert

    If you follow standard political wisdom, Crist should be supported. The polls show very high name recognition with somewhat high favorables. In the same polls, Rubio is almost unknown. That’s all the NRSC was looking at when they made the choice.

    But you’d think the recent incident with Specter would have gotten them to reconsider how far “moderates” can be trusted.

  • IJB

    I can’t remember who it was (I think I saw it in a RedHot), but one House Republican said that if Pelosi is found to have lied, she should resign.

    But your overall point is valid – if the GOP politicians don’t get off the dime, like *yesterday*, it’s time to start thinking about cutting them all loose.

  • ColdWarrior
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    See the link to Moe’s article in my sig

  • ColdWarrior

    Will post as a diary. Maybe it will work there.

    Thank you.

  • Brian Hibbert

    But there are some new ones from people who’s names I don’t recognize on the same subject.

    Maybe he’ll get the message…..

  • molybdanthan

    I ask this of all Republicans that will go on Lib media shows, and sit on their hands while the Left gangs up on them. Meeklings.

    Why would anyone go on MSNBC, but avoid talk radio like the plague? Talk radio has, in one day, the audience of MSNBC in a week. And its listeners are the heart and soul of the GOP.

    It’s said an elephant never forgets, and we will all remember these fair-weather Republicans come election time.

  • Jonah Shumate

    I hope people keep it up. The more the better, and, something tells me it will get more attention as it keeps up. It may be not what he wants, but, the people of Florida really should make their choice known and the NRSC should then endorse….

  • mbecker908

    asking why the exchange was deleted and linking to this diary. See how long that stays up.

  • Mr_Ed

    On the day Cornyn announced the NRSC endorsement, I posted an objection on his Facebook site…as I am a FB “friend” of his. I received a personal response which was similar in nature to yours. My unique angle, though, was that I had recently made my first ever contribution to NRSC.

    Just before the TARP Senate vote, I received a telemarketing phone call from the NRSC asking for a donation. I told them I would donate $10 for every Republican Senator who voted against TARP. 37 voted against it and so I sent the NRSC a check for $370. (My name made the list of NRSC contributors you posted a few days ago.)

    So I told Sen. Cornyn on FB about my recent first time contribution and how disappointed I was in the Crist endorsement. I told him not to expect further donations from me if this behavior continued.

    I can’t wait for the next NRSC telemarketing call.

  • mbecker908

    Cornyn is a coward.

  • Aaron Gardner

    it is a comment his post where he explains how his FB page isn’t the right forum for this sort of talk.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    when the discussion that regards Crist/Rubio comes up… BUT FIRST… got to agree that there is plenty of time….. I await to see how well BOTH Candidates handle this … hopefully they won’t behave badly and ILL toward each other…. IF Rubio gains ground and has a good momentum ground swell I will be MORE THAN HAPPY (as “he” actually rather someone/anyone like him would be my FIRST CHOICE as I’ve stated all along)…. But, as I’ve said, I can see/understand the NRSC wanting an EASY WIN and being able to focus/concentrate on some tougher fights…..

    Crist/Rubio
    I’m not going to repeat the same things discussed on a daily basis but provide the links I decided to now keep handy since the Crist/Rubio thing just isn’t going to go away and I frankly think some of it is being distorted daily (look and decide for yourself)…. It’s all about returning to Majority status STRATEGY….

    Crist/Rubio 12pts – Crist/Rubio 12 points [with links] (since it has some links, I’m not going to try and recreate it all with cut/paste)

    Crist & taxes – Crist and taxes [includes press-links]

    sitting out (or threats to sit out) elections banter – in depth Sit-It-Out discussion

    Deli-story ;-) – Deli-story

    ZERO-strategy – ZERO-strategy

    Red-Dogs – Red-Dogs, RINOs, CINOs, DINOs, PLINOs, and Blue-Dogs, oh my… The Political Zoo – what/who are they?

    BLUE-ism – BLUE-ism

    Bi-Partisanship is really Democrats joining with Republicans, but it goes on as the usual MSM biased spin – again, Bi-Partisanship has really been Democrats joining with Republicans (here) and here

    Primary McLame – going at McCain in a Primary, finally

    using Primaries to build up future candidates – using Primaries to build up future candidates

  • psyop_hic

    At approximately 12am 5/22/2009, Senator Cornyn’s facebook admin deleted all comments regarding his role in the NRSC. He justifies this action by writing “I appreciate the different views on purely political matters; however, this page is dedicated to non-electoral issues of public concern. While it is a fine line, I hope we can continue to have good discussions on issues of interest to Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. I pledge to find an appropriate forum for debates, both pro and con, about specific candidates. Thanks for your consideration.” I invited him to the Facebook group “Not one penny to the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC)” as I think this will be a very good forum for the Senator discuss our differences. Lets see if he’ll accept the invitation.

  • AceInTX

    They’re still censoring our comments on the site…H received a post in reply to my comments which read:

    John Cornyn I appreciate the different views on purely political matters; however, this page is dedicated to non-electoral issues of public concern. While it is a fine line, I hope we can continue to have good discussions on issues of interest to Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. I pledge to find an appropriate forum for debates, both pro and con, about specific candidates. Thanks for your consideration.

    My reply…how long will it take them to pull it down?

    Huh…is that so? guess that’s why there are comments on several other issues on the wal yet you are striping and censoring those who take issue with the Crist endorsement…curious isn’t it?

  • AceInTX

    He’d crush Crist.

    BTW…Crist is out there disparately trying to convince everyone he’s a “Fiscal” conservative.. in an op ed…look for a diary on that one from me.

  • The_Gadfly

    but it needs a bit more substance. Specifically he needs to:

    1. Set out a timeline by which he will establish the appropriate forum.
    2. Pledge that all comments which are being removed are being archived so they can be transferred to the new site once it has been established.
    3. When (not if) the new site is established, restore the archived comments on the site.
    4. Notify all of the posters to the wall of the new site so they can continue the discussion there.

    And if I were him I would be just a wee bit concerned about the new Pew poll on voter identification. According to an article in the hard copy version of the Washington Times, conservative self-identification is continuing to hold steady at 37%, about twice the rate as liberal self-identification, while Republican self-identification is in free fall. And even amongst self-identified Republicans, satisfaction with the party is down around 74%. Sounds like a lot of people at the top of the party have done, and are continuing to do a lot of things wrong. And I don’t see how that’s going to help elect more Republicans at any level of government.

  • LibRick

    on my shoulder… Got to admit, my rhetoric has tilted rightward a little bit in my discussions with my liberal cohorts. The lib wall hasn’t been breached yet but I hear the Redstate barbarians pounding the gate :)

  • LibRick

    if all politicians were held accountable on issues. Sadly, I doubt you’ll see this on the lib grassroots side anytime soon. You guys are way ahead on this front. That’s the conservative strength. You just need to get the Republicans on your page.

  • Aaron Gardner