Some mean well. Unfortunately, their high mindedness fractures and divides the rest.

and that it is a two-way street…. Remember this diary in regard to TONE in the creation of your next Diary and/or Comment posting! Avoiding the BURN ALL BRIDGES approach…. Being CRITICAL of disagreements and perceived mistakes but having respect and leaving the room for working together (standing up about working together) in/on all those things in the GOP (still Conservative) Platform. That includes “ME,” this Diaries author, and all having responded here-in.

The ‘you have never got a GD thing right and you MUST change your tune/ways’ is NOT helpful… At all! … IMO, of course or did I miss the point of this Diary?!?!?

* “”“Talk radio is running America. We have to deal with that problem.””

He was upset amnesty for illegals wasn’t passing and blamed talk radio. Mark Levin for president.

I will grant you that I don’t particularly like listening to Levin. But unlike you, that is because I think he, like me, has a voice for newspapers. But I will tolerate that discomfort, because I find the content of what he says valuable, even if the timber is somewhat irritating.

I got the impression that the NRO writer was defending his mispronunciation of her name, not explaining why people will probably say it wrong. If I misunderstood, I apologize.

That being said, there’s a level of stubbornness that becomes intolerable, as well as giving the impression of ignorance, when, after being on television for 50 years, someone would continue to say Ricky “RICK-er-doe”.

But the party is not reforming if anything its going even further away from principles.

Putting the likes of McConnell and company will be putting a Republican party back in power that is still not fit to govern and will proceed to follow Obama’s failure with its own failure.

But the party is not reforming if anything its going even further away from principles.

Putting the likes of McConnell and company will be putting a Republican party back in power that is still not fit to govern and will proceed to follow Obama’s failure with its own failure.

To be honest I used to be firmly in the camp of “Say it the way it’s spelled” for a long time. Maybe it was growing up Midwestern.

But as I said, a couple years living “south of the border” (ie south of I-10 in Baton Rouge) made me change my ways. I still have a tendency to mispronounce French names when I see them. I can say them correctly all day long until I see them printed. Then it’s crapshoot if they come out of my mouth correctly.

Are you seriously saying that everyone sins, so when a conservative spokesperson does it, we shouldn’t take it so seriously?

I know you didn’t just imply that everyone who has a problem with Levin, etc, is left leaning. Because that would be ridiculous and illustrate a willful ignorance of their position.

The point is Mark Levin does a hell of a lot more for the cause than pretty much anyone asking the question, so shut the hell up and leave him alone.

This comment, however, cracks me up. And not just because of the images of Chris Crocker that come to mind.

You disagree with me so shut the hell up.

You don’t have your own radio show, so shut the hell up.

But please remember to vote conservative next election, thankyouverymuch.

When it comes to some of the people you mentioned, I enjoy the entertainment they provide, and sometimes the good points they make. A few of the people mentioned (and probably intended) are simply bully-heade, and instead of taking on the left, they’ve decided to take on people on the right- for whatever their various reasons. Tell me now- what does that accomplish and how will it help us in 2012?

And then there is the left’s version of tolerance, called partisan tolerance. They tolerate anything from someone of the left, and nothing from someone who is not of the left. Thus, a leftist judge can make racist statements and belong to an organization called THE RACE and nobody on the left even bats an eye. But a conservative judge happens to be Latino and is targeted precisely because of his heritage, and is even accused by a Dem Senator of being dishonest to play off the racist stereotypes. See how it works? This perverted version of tolerance used by the left needs to be called out every time we see it.

Partisan tolerance is tribalism, nothing less. And we should not tolerate it, for it is intolerant and it corrupts the debate.

And heaven help the in-law who pronounces my wife’s maiden name as “Pen-ick” (like everyone else does because it’s spelled that way) instead of “Pea-nick” like her dad, uncles and grandfather. I was warned several times before the marriage that the holidays could get pretty chilly if I regularly “mispronounced”.

Another example, I learned pretty quickly when I lived in Baton Rouge that the surname pronounced “Abear” was spelled “Herbert” and “Falgo” was spelled “Falgoust”.

In short, if someone has a particular pronunciation, that’s the way it should be pronounced.

But expecting people out the blue to start obeying Spanish accenting rules is ridiculous. I can’t be bothered.

I do pronounce Desi Arnaz as Dezzie Arnez and I do accent the first syllable in Ricardo, just like I do with Baccardi.

I think it’s disingenuous, however, for those in this thread who are acting like this is the norm, as if they go through their everyday lives calling Vietnamese guys “in-GYE-yin” and pompous television personalities “JER-al-do RI-ver-uh”.

Everyone in this thread who pronounces Lucy’s husband’s name “Ricky RICK-er-doe”, please raise your hand.

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

The point about Vienna vs Wien is exactly on point because we are speaking English, not Spanish. She is allegedly an American, though her comments about he self identity do call that into question, and I’m under no obligation to pretend to speak Spanish in order to make her or her supporters feel good about themselves.

The underlying issue with the name in not pronunciation but identity politics, a game which I am just not going to play. If that is going to be the rule, however, I demand my name be pronounced with a Devon accent.

Your point about Wien or Köln is well taken - if we’re speaking German. In my experience, even native German speakers use “Vienna” and “Cologne” when speaking in English.

I’ll also point out that we seem to have little problem with this where others are concerned, say, baseball players…Sandoval, Abreu, Francoeur, Pujols, Fukudome, Guzmán, Fontenot, Encarnación…if we can get those right with their “non-English” pronunciations, I should think that a Federal judge deserves similar respect.

I’ll grant you that, out of the box, some folks may stumble over an unfamiliar name. There’s no reason to keep making the mistake (and this includes the President, who has slipped up several times) once the proper pronunciation is known. It’s a question of common courtesy and respect.