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Our healthcare is that bad?

Obama talks down our healthcare system, but that does not make it as bad as he thinks it is.

According to Barack Obama, our healthcare is worse than other nations and more expensive.

“We are spending over $2 trillion a year on health care – almost 50 percent more per person than the next most costly nation,” Obama is expected to say, according to an advance copy of his remarks. “And yet, for all this spending, more of our citizens are uninsured; the quality of our care is often lower; and we aren’t any healthier.”

Now, we know how the American state-run media will respond. Starting tomorrow, Katie Couric, the gang at MSNBC, etc. will profile people who died in American hospitals and like with Obama’s “created or saved jobs” rhetoric, they’ll say the person could have been saved in a European hospital.

That, of course, will not be true. And we know it won’t be true based on the number of stories of people from Europe and Canada who come to the United States for treatment because of the lack of waiting and amazing healthcare.

Silvo Berlusconi, Italy’s Prime Minister, is but one example.

Belinda Stronach, a Liberal MP from Canada, is another example.

Liberal MP Belinda Stronach, who is battling breast cancer, travelled to California last June for an operation that was recommended as part of her treatment, says a report. . . . [Her spokesman] said speed was not the reason why she went to California. Instead, MacEachern said the decision was made because the U.S. hospital was the best place to have it done due to the type of surgery required.

It’s why the United States has a visa program for medical visits to the United States.

And it is why you can find people all over the internet begging for information on getting sick relatives to the United States for better treatment.

Back in 2000, Democrats accused George Bush of talking down the economy. We should be able to say here, if nothing else, that Barack Obama is talking down the best healthcare system in the world to fit his needs. And he is doing a great disservice to American doctors and nurses.

COMMENTS

  • Bartlett

    I’m biased, of course, but I’m also quite certain that we have the best health care system that the world has ever seen.

    Best, that is, if your touchstone is whether you will die of “natural causes” before your grandchildren are born. Or whether you will lose a child in infancy or childhood. Or by almost any other standard involving mortality, morbidity, or human decency.

    If, on the other hand, you don’t care about any of that, we do have a very expensive system, and one where there is certainly a degree of waste and not an insignificant amount of fraud. We have a system where people are free to ignore the system, free to engage in habits that are less than good for them, and free to ask the health care system to fix the problems anyway.

    We have a system where people without cash can show up at an Emergency Department and be seen, no payment ever collected. Which means that if you are the sort who HAS cash, you end up paying extra. If you’re particularly upset about that, and don’t mind if the lower classes die, you might see an opportunity for improvement.

    All of the “reform” proposals have nothing to do with reform, and everything to do with control, cost, and the end of a variety of kinds of autonomy. If you have a religious objection to personal autonomy (i.e. you’re a knee-jerk liberal in 2009), you’re good with this.

    But if you want to see me or one of my colleagues, and you want to be taken care of well, you’ve got absolutely nothing coming to you in the current proposals except a huge amount of bureaucracy, debt, and taxation.

    And no, our health care system won’t be one bit better.

    Enjoy!

  • DONTREADONME

    we end up paying for the revolutions in pharmaceuticals and technology because we get the cutting edge. While the rest of the world tries to wheel and deal with our pharma and medical equip manu(s) for cheap drugs and inexpensive technologies; Americans just go out by the best for the private practices and drug stores while the Americans that frequent those practices expect the best treatment. We get the best treatment by somehow that is not good enough, we have to regress to a far worse system that has failed everywhere it is tried. I also suppose it is OK to make the leader in cutting edge medical treatements and supplies stop making the cutting edge medical treatements and supplies because there is no incentive to do so. That my friends as we all know to be 100% true is that socialism/communism does not work even if you force it. Once all of the capitalists are gone there is no more capital left for the Statist to take.

  • DONTREADONME

    you should not get irritated when writing comments. (by should be buy and by should be but). I am beginning to think it is the website doing it to me.

  • izoneguy

    then why do Canadians and Brits stream over and pay for medical procedures?
    Why do the Mexicans rush up here when their wives are about to give birth?
    The US system is the envy of the rest of the world.
    I guess Obama wants the rest of the world to not envy us so much.
    Lower expections and hope. Maybe Obama can change the system so that everyone can get the plastic surgery they deserve.

  • DerKrieger

    “?We are spending over $2 trillion a year on health care – almost 50 percent more per person than the next most costly nation.”

    Then please Obama, why do you want to raise taxes by over $2 Trillion more? How the He!! does raising taxes for everyone reduce health care expenditures?

    According to The One while on the campaign trail his plan would result inn the average family saving ~$1,500/yr on premiums. Yet his vast array of tax increases will cost that same family far more.

    WTH is he wrecking health care to provide for ~46 Million uninsured persons residing in America. I say that because according to the Census Bureau 9 million of these people are ILLEGAL ALIENS!

    I’ve officially diagnosed myself with Obama Derangement Syndrome. The man makes my blood boil.

  • Tbone

    Today was just the warmup, docs. Y’all better brace yourselves for the main event.

  • bobojake

    You may get the treatment you deserve for the way you talk down to the best Healthcare on Earth.

  • 1stRichard

    I had met Dr. Jay Fleitman running for 2nd District here, running against Neal the other day. He is working on the best health car plans that I have seen. Yes, he is a real medical doctor that knows the mess. But because he is a Conservative from Massachusetts the GOP seems to basically ignore us up here. Alternatives are there and the Republican Party needs to present a better choice now or all of us will be stuck with a horrible mess.

  • GregInFla

    Because we can afford to. Ask those in Ethiopia or Kenya if they can afford to spend so much. Answer is no. It is hard to spend money you don’t have (unless you are The One). What other nation would consider these things as necessary Healthcare Expenses: ED meds, gender change surgery, stomach-stapling, liposuction, hairpieces, tobacco-cessation meds, prozac, well-baby care, etc; and then complain about the costs of healthcare? I love the analogy Rush spoke of: What if insurance covered the cost of hotel rooms?

    You may laugh, but the government kinda does now in larger got markets. The cost of a hotel room in the DC area is outrageous during the work week $200+. Why? Because the rooms are full of government and contractor folks paying the government approved GSA rate per room. You cannot get a room for less than this rate, and will likely pay more. But when the weekend comes, and those folks are back home, the rates come way down. (I’ve worked many weekends up there, and enjoyed lower weekend rates on nice rooms.)

    If you had to pay out of your own pocket, do you think hospital room-board would cost as much as it does? I think not.

  • GreyCloak

    The wife got charged over $1,000 a night for an ICU room a few years ago, but it included meals. Not included: over $5,000/day (averaged over ten days, but the stay was only seven) in doctor and other charges. Great care, but even the insurance company cut the charges by a reasonable 30-40% over what they originally tried to charge. I noted that several non-primary docs stopped by … nobody asked them, but they felt obliged to charge for every “review.”

  • GreyCloak

    Ayup, doctors … brace yourself. When your bill includes a line-item “prostate exam” (twenty years ago) during a yearly checkup, maybe you should have billed for just the exam. OH! Insurance picked up most of the tab; I’m not a doctor, but I never have found my wife’s prostate for which you charged her.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    they will provide Obama with top notch care they provide all the Comrade Elites.

  • aaronqofmaine

    people that are opposed to obamacare should STOP being opposed to funding more doctors and nurses. Because its the only way you’re getting seen. I am in favor of preemptive cancer treatment and screenings. its a lot cheaper than full-blown chemo. People like to stand on their Ivory towers and say that the poor shouldn’t get the same rights to life as an unborn baby. Its going to cost only $1 billion. Thats like saying the bank bail out cost a mile and healthcare for everyone cost 6.6 feet.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    to raise the funds to insure those without it….

    Typical Liberal laziness, extort it from everyone and ignore the other consequences of Govt. involvement in doing more harm than help.

  • arel

    are receiving free health care everyday along with the illegal immigrants and those with insurance are paying more to compensate for those who get it free. The non profit state hospitals that have to take those with no insurance get pennies on the dollar for services rendered. The only hospital that can turn away the uninsured are those that are private. Why do you think the Emergency rooms are always so full and the wait time are rediculous? It is because those uninsured come there for care and that includes common colds and things you normally would go to a primary care doctor for. Almost 85% of Americans are insured this health care plan is just another way to gain control of a booming buisness. The government will tax those buisnesses that are insuring their employees and they will tax the employees that are paying for their insurance until no one can afford it and has no choice but to go on the government plan. Sickening.

  • randy streu

    http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/06/16/cbo-kennedy-dodd-will-cost-1-trillion-to-insure-17-million-for-10-years/

    Thanks for the pointless analogy, though. It was awesome.

    And nobody’s saying the poor shouldn’t get a ‘right to life.’ Everyone has the right to life. What nobody has is the right to force me to subsidize them. I’m all for charity. I’m all for non-profits, and certainly, if somebody started a non-profit with the goal in mind of providing free health care for those who couldn’t pay for it, I’d gladly cough up what little money I actually have, and help. Happily.

    JLenard nailed it: liberal laziness.

  • mom2oneson

    “non profit state hospitals that have to take those with no insurance get pennies on the dollar for services rendered.”

    Where is this compensation coming from? The have to write a portion off to charity to keep that non profit status and the other ones are written off as bad debt.

    “The only hospital that can turn away the uninsured are those that are private. ”
    Private hosptials can’t turn away patients presenting for emergency care or active labor and they can’t dump on the non-profit down the road before stablizing them.

    How are the non profits forced to accept them? The won’t get past billing to even be admitted unles it’s to the ER. They do not have have to accept patients for non emergency treatment and will refuse them. They non profits have to have a charity or uncompensated care program that people can apply for ahead of time or they can apply for after they are treated. The don’t have to accept any walk-ins for people not on that program for things that are not an emergency. I don’t see how they would even see a physician to admit them and then get passed the billing department.

    It’s upsetting that the uninsured is being blamed so much and not other things. Why doesn’t anyone ever blame the implementation or DRGs or all the untimely billing that goes accounts that are not high dollar accounts.