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Senator Boxer needs to put on some big girl panties and suck it up.

Only a liberal would be offended by a General being polite.

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  June 17th, 2009 at 04:54 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Goodness. It reminds me of a female colleague on my local city council who always gets on a high horse about wasting time on frivolous matters, then getting upset at a city employee referring to a “gentlemen’s agreement.”

Senator Boxer, you see, did not like being called “Ma’am” by a General.

So the men have no problem with “Sir,” but Miss Boxer does not like “Ma’am.”

We now must all start calling her “Ma’am,” and here are some delightful Dora the Explorer big girl panties (my 3 year old endorses them) you might want to send Senator Boxer.

The best address is 1700 Montgomery Street, Suite 240, San Francisco, CA 94111. If nothing else, it’s San Francisco. If she can’t use them, I’m sure some guy in San Francisco can.

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  • Vegas_Rick

    it was common practice to call a respected officer “Sir.” We would often refer to an “officer” who we did not respect by his or her rank. So instead of “Yes sir or no sir!” It was yes Lieutenant or yes “Senator.”

    Let her have her “Title.”

  • Vegas_Rick

    it was common practice to call a respected officer “Sir.” We would often refer to an “officer” who we did not respect by his or her rank. So instead of “Yes sir or no sir!” It was yes Lieutenant or yes “Senator.”

    Let her have her “Title.”

  • Aaron Gardner

    ma’am is perfectly respectful. In fact that’s how a private addresses a female Officer in the military.

    Oh and I noticed that Sen. Boxer didn’t bother to address the Brigadier General as such, and I am certain he worked much harder than her to attain that title.

    Sen. Boxer, you are a self important, disrespectful, unappreciative ass. You bring shame to the entire Country. Stay classy.

    *rhetorical question

  • DamnCat

    Every military person I’ve ever met in a professional setting (and I’ve met a lot of them) alway referred to civilians or their superiors as Sir or Ma’am (or very young ladies they will call Miss). In a relaxed setting, or if they’ve known you a while, they will loosen up. But this is simply their way of speaking and of showing proper respect. Boxer is an idiot.

    “That’s DOCTOR Evil. I didn’t spend 8 years in evil medical school to be called MISTER, thank you very much.”
    – Dr. Evil -

  • mom2oneson

    I agree it’s how they talk. There is a large number of number of young military men that live in our apartment complex. I always feel old when I see them in the laundry room and they use the word ma’am. :)

  • red4ever

    So, Sen. Boxer has a problem with being addressed respectfully. Hmm, I have a suggested term of address, but it would get me banned here.

  • bk

    I wouldn’t bet 5 cents on that one.

  • WarEagle01

    After addressing her the first time as “Your Majesty.” Hmmm, maybe Barb would prefer “Your Majesty,” since she obviously thinks she’s royalty now. I like how she makes sure to tell him that she “worked so hard to get that title.” I guess that’s what running for office is all about now, titles and emoluments.

  • TNJim

    Feel honored. And respected. Get what Sen. Boxey doesn’t (no typo).

  • TNJim
  • Langley

    In the South, using the term “ma’am” is one of respect, even to women who may be or are younger than you. Obviously the ma’am/sir thing translates over to the military as well.

    I know Sen. Boxer (see! I used the title!) is from Cali, but in my experience even most Californians are knocked over when they hear “ma’am” or “sir” and consider it a compliment that they don’t hear often on the west coast.

    Have your title, Senator Boxer. I know you’re working hard to bankrupt generations to come.

  • Kowalski

    .

  • CSUFBomb

    No one will be referring to Babs as “Senator” after the 2010 elections . . . if she’s lucky she’ll get a “Ma’am” . . . if she’s unlucky she’ll get a “I’d prefer paper, not plastic”.

  • penguin2

    All I could think after seeing the clip, “What an idiot!”

    And he certainly worked “much harder” than she, in fact, she can’t begin to measure up to him.

  • Kowalski

    If a Senator was called Sir by a General answering questions before him it would be a sign of deference and respect, but in Boxer’s twisted imagination using the decorous and deferential “Ma’am” is some kind of projected insult.

    And that’s what it was: it was a projected insult, on her part.

    Someone should have hocked a loogey on her.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    That will prevent Boxer from sucking her thumb too long next time we get attacked and the military she loathes so much takes its time going to protect her.

    By the way, isn’t the proper term “Madam Speaker”? On second thought, let’s not touch that connotation and Pelosi.

  • Aaron Gardner
  • William_L

    .. this is a perfect example.

    “I worked hard to get this position” ? How? You glad-hand a bunch of people and took their money to get elected.. And now you’re throwing away my childrens’ and grandkids’ future?

    You’re lucky to get a ma’am there, Boxer..

    Worst. Congress. Ever.

    Keep it up.. see you next Nov.

  • Maelstrom

    While I do not begrudge the Senators request, I think it just underscores the image of self importance in her own mind. Seriously Senator, cant we have you just focus on the issue at hand and not be distracted by the perceived slight of being called “Ma’am”. Unbelievable.

  • RepMom

    to say I am from California right now…

    Even I know that “Ma’am” is a sign of respect – how offensive and totally disrespectful to a man who has spent his life and career fighting to protect fools like her!!!

  • noufa

    She’s the kind of fiscally irresponsible, hard-left, polarizing figure that supposedly loses the moderate middle. Fong & Jones were both decent, competent men but both ran lackluster campaigns.

    What I wouldn’t give for a decent R campaign in 2010. Seriously, I’ve got my checkbook ready. You listening, NRSC? I’d gladly take a moderate in the mold of Pete Wilson. But we need someone who is energetic & willing to fight hard.

  • Uma Richie

    at the beginning and end of his opening statement.

    Statement is here:
    http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=f7893b18-55b2-40f8-a2fc-9a7b905a4756

    I wanted to check if her reaction was justified for some reason, such as being called “Ma’am” after others were called “Senator.” It appears to me that she was given all the respect due to her office and that she overreacted.

  • Uma Richie

    my daughter is not about to share her Dora big girl pants, especially with Barbara Boxer.

  • TNJim

    or feminazi, as Rush says. She probably thinks any gender-specific term is an insult, no mater that one such as ma’am has always been used as a term of respect all around the world. Feminazis have been conditioned to reject such terms, to think of them as condescending.

    I wonder what her reaction would be if Obama ever slipped up and called her “sweetie”?

  • http://janicecantore.com Janice Cantore

    My dream in 2010 is seeing this worthless one beaten. It’s a dream I cherish more than winning lottery numbers. She is the tyoe of person for which the phrase “knocked off her high horse” was invented. Please God, hear my prayer.

    Unfortunately, this is California, people don’t think when they vote, they just mark the D. In Boxers case that is D for dunce.

  • DavidSage

    What’s even more disgusting is she’ll probably be reelected by a 20 point margin.

    California will never learn.

  • molybdanthan

    so you better treat her right.

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    I was on vacation in Washington, DC many years ago (I live in the metro-area now), and was waiting for the trolley between the Congressional and Senate office buildings. Off in the distance I saw Texas Senator Phil Gramm walking toward the trolley stop where I and another group were waiting. Simultaneously, we whispered to each other: ?Hey, that?s Phil Gramm!? As he approached I was about to stick out my hand and say, ?Hello, Senator Gramm.? He beat me to it, stuck out his hand and said, ?Hi, I?m Phil.? Unlike one of the Queen Bees, his genuineness was sincere and heartfelt.

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    Thanks for the laugh, Erick.

    I was on vacation in Washington, DC many years ago (I live in the metro-area now), and was waiting for the trolley between the Congressional and Senate office buildings. Off in the distance I saw Texas Senator Phil Gramm walking toward the trolley stop where I and another group were waiting. Simultaneously, we whispered to each other: ?Hey, that?s Phil Gramm!? As he approached I was about to stick out my hand and say, ?Hello, Senator Gramm.? He beat me to it, stuck out his hand and said, ?Hi, I?m Phil.? Unlike one of the Queen Bees, his genuineness was sincere and heartfelt.

  • izoneguy

    n/t

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • Tbone

    b*tch that Ma’am is a show of respect”. I hope it was helpful to her.

  • greiner

    Well that is just the reason why you ought to give it up. You don’t “deserve” anything. Your a servent!!! I think more and more the Senate is just a school for idiots.

  • http://web.mac.com/mayo99/iWeb/Site/VladBlog/VladBlog.html Vladimir
  • mom2oneson

    this stuff is just unreal. That poor man trying to communicate his thought and he gets interrupted with that!

  • http://www.criterionchemical.com Chemical Sam

    who was a lowly enlisted man in both the Army and the Navy, with barely a high school education otherwise.

    The General earned his rank, and I have my Doctor of Philosophy, and I’m sure we’re both gentlemen, but my father didn’t cotton arrogance unto his dying breath.

    He would have told her the same thing Cheney told Leahy a couple years back, only over the microphone.

    OK, maybe I would have learned my father’s lesson too well, and would have have told her to “Kiss my ass”. I may still, if I get the opportunity. Over a microphone, and then ask the People to send me $1 by mail if they approve.
    (Yeah, I’ll take the yellow card on profanity for this one.)

    I hold the woman –if I may call her that– in no esteem whatsoever. I don’t care if every single illegal immigrant in California elected her. Her crowning achievements are that she won a popularity contest, rigged in her favor, and has a BS in Economics.

    I’m more qualified to be a Senator in the State of California.
    Carrie Prejean has better qualifications to run the state of California. (Can you believe she’s too young by almost a decade to run?) And she’s not even arrogant about it.

    That has to be the single most arrogant thing that I have ever heard come out of the mouth of a US Senator, and that’s a doozie. Still she doesn’t outshine our “President” on the count of arrogance, but…

  • http://web.mac.com/mayo99/iWeb/Site/VladBlog/VladBlog.html Vladimir
  • ocleverone

    Bwahahahaha!

  • Cheryl

    and that comes from a native Californian. I use to love it when my southern clients did the Yes ma’m thing! We’re completely aware this was part of the education and upbringing of our southern neighbors.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    That’ll make her blood boil. The iconic Al Bundy

    here

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  • lonebeagle

    About an hour ago I called the L.A. office and told the staffer that I thought that SENATOR boxer was extremely disrespectful of the General. I also said that it was obvious that the SENATOR was completely oblivious to the fact that being called “Ma’am” by someone in the military was a sign of respect.

    The young staffer was clueless and said that he would relay my comments to the SENATOR.

    Sometimes I just hate being a resident of California. It used to be a great state but now we’re just a broke third world nation relic.

  • http://www.the41stvote.org rcov092

    yes Maaaaaaam, your pretentiousness.

  • DONTREADONME

    This woman is completely drunk with power and corruption. This is a symptom of it, I am not kidding either. When a person starts acting like this it is time to strip them of power because they are dangerous.

  • http://brockwayfamily.spaces.live.com/ Erick Brockway

    Hmmmm. I mean really. Not one to make fun of a “sitting” Senator, but when she sits around the house…

  • Wing Zero

    dethrone her.

  • http://theadmiralsbridge.blogspot.com/ theadmiral

    about this Marxist shrew would surely get me ‘blammed’ by Moe.

  • Amy Miller

    This woman…ugh. So many words for this woman. First off…who does that? Who interrupts a General to fire her ~crap~ cannon over title semantics? Oh..that’s right…a LIBERAL who is so secure in her position that she feels the need to humiliate a man who has done a damn sight more with his life than she could ever hope to do with hers.

    Furthermore…I love being called ma’am, especially by men in uniform. Guys, don’t let vapid harpies like Boxer scare you away from being polite!

    Someone needs to put this woman in her place.

  • marshmom

    That’s too funny!! I haven’t thought about that in years! I’ll tell ya, I could’ve thought of LOTS of other words to call her besides “Ma’am”.
    Being from the south, Ma’am is the golden standard in titles for a woman.
    Feminism in this country hasn’t done anything but confuse the role of men and women in the family unit and send the wrong message to their children.
    Barbara Boxer is one of the worst offenders in Congress. I’ve dreamed about her getting the boot for years! Let’s all hope it happens soon.

  • DONTREADONME

    Most of us younger males (33) from the South or perceived South (grew up eastern shore of MD) will call older females ma’am or our superiors ma’am. I take my notes from the Marines when they call their superiors Sir etc. It is just an etiquette that is taught by the Armed Forces and my parents. Till this day Mom and Dad in-law are Mr. and Mrs “Wife maiden name”.

    I guess Ms. Boxer felt the need to embarrass herself because many people know that Military men tend to always use Sir or Ma’am or Madam as a term of respect. I do not think I have heard a General use the name of Senator in a sentence that didn’t have SOB or Bit6h in it. So, it looks like the mistress got her “justice”.

    BTW, it takes alot more to make Brigadier General then it does to become a hag senator from California.

  • marshmom
  • Amy Miller

    I feel like it’s absolutely, 100% respectful. I’m not the kind of anti-feminist who DEMANDS that sort of old-fashionedness at all times, but when it happens, it’s wonderful. You guys are a dying breed for sure.

  • DONTREADONME

    You know if I had met you I probably would be more likely to address you as Miss rather than ma’am. I think they are both respectful terms, I just think the age thing clicks and I do not want to assume your married, you can thank the feminist indoctrination for that. Anyway, all military men should address you as ma’am.

  • http://www.realityunwound.com realityunwound

    Correct? He’s running hard and consistent, working the grass roots & new media. Anyone in Cali know how he’s doing?

  • discerningconservative

    My father served proudly in Vietnam. My mother is very proud of his service, and even though I am 34 years old, I would never make a statement that would offend her. I have never heard my father call another woman that he did not know by another name than Ma’am. I call my mother Ma’am, I call my grandmother’s Ma’am, I call my aunt’s Ma’am… coming from a military family, I would get my ___ kicked if I didn’t! Our men in uniform respectfully show all women that they interact with that same respect, and ma’am Boxer (that’s right I said it, and I didn’t capitalize it, either) you do not deserve any respect from the men and women that protect your life and well being, (nor do you deserve to represent part of our Great Country!).

  • Amy Miller

    Feminist indoctrination?

    I DON’T NEED A MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! ~screech~

    Mwahaha.

    In all seriousness, modern feminism SUCKS. It’s AWFUL! When I was at Purdue there was this huge blowout about guys holding doors for girls (something else I love); women were coming out saying it was disrespectful and everything. It made me feel so ashamed, even though I vehemently disagreed, because the result was that all these poor guys who were just trying to be nice were suddenly branded with a scarlet F, and they didn’t know what to do anymore. All I could do was be extra friendly to the gun-shy ones.

  • redtillimdead

    Thats so true! It does look like something from SNL. Oh, and all those hoping for a good candidate, Carly Fiorina is just about in the race

  • Mike gamecock DeVine
  • redtillimdead

    We should all E-mail that to her!

  • discerningconservative

    As a male, my opinion of feminism should remain irrelevant. My sister attended Purdue from 96′ to 99′. I visited her very often (especially for Ohio State football games… Big fan of the Buckeye’s). It seems to me (a male, so what does it matter?) that the feminism movement only includes the far left ideology, and nothing else. Miss California is a perfect example… I cannot blame you for your contempt for feminism… It is hard to comment on femminism as a male, but if it was a non-partisan issue, it would be much, much, much easier to support.

  • DONTREADONME

    Yes, my wife finds the attitude of women that get huffy and puffy about holding the door too. I have decided that if any woman gives me a hard time, I will ask her for a do-over, and then I will let the door slam in her face… Nah, I am just kidding there…

    I just do not get this mentality of the feminists, I am a man of course, but my guess is these women that have a fit when a man treats a woman like well a woman it is somehow degrading, are very very insecure with their strengths as a woman. There are women like my wife, you and others here that are very confortable as females. Comfortable in your strengths as feminine and comfortable with the difference between men and women. Men that will hold the door for you are doing so our of a sign of respect or deference to you as a woman; however, that said when a women acts like what you expressed in your story it only serves to draw an amount of disrespect from men. That said, it is difficult for me to harden my attitude of the chivalrous man eventhough some women act this way, but the next generations will not be so instilled with these senses of honor and respect.

    I always have one question for the feminists who will you want coming to your aide when you find yourself in a situation of, God forbid rape, the man that held the door for you or the man that let the door slam in your face? I hope they are not waiting for the man that let the door slam in their face because unless you screem “free beer” or “naked women” or free lap dances you are going to be in a load of trouble.

    All of this BS from the feminists about how us men need to understand women, well it seems that maybe it is the feminists that need to understand men.

  • IJB
  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    is evidence of the success of the brain-washing goal of feminism.

    Any intelligent human being is competent to comment on feminism’s effects on society and whether they are preferable to a society not so influenced. What men do affects women and children and vice versa.

    Just as whites are just as competent to understand that slavery and Jim Crow were wrong….

  • DONTREADONME

    I am just one year short of you, my father served in Vietnam in the Marine Corps, and I would have had my rear end blistered if I disrespected a women. You do not want to know what my father did when I hit my 6 year older sister, not pretty.

    What are we the last of the dying breed? I suppose 1975 ,76, 77 were good years for boys to be born. What the hell happened?

  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    the senator need not address him by any honorific given that he suffered from no inferiority complexes?

  • Amy Miller

    The culture I find myself in is all about validation: getting it, giving it, and reinforcing it with bulls**t anecdotes about self-esteem and “empowerment.” From what I’ve seen, feminism is all about validation by way of rejecting the wonderful, natural differences between men and women.

    Women like Boxer wither without that constant, almost false validation. Normal people don’t need that. I don’t feel “empowered” by her insisting the General call her “Senator.” Man-hating does not make me feel “empowered.” Most importantly, I don’t need feminist doctrine to feel “empowered,” because I have GREAT things and people in my life that give me confidence!

    FWIW, I fully support you slamming the door on any woman who attempts to make you feel bad for being a man.

  • ocleverone

    raising their sons to be gentlemen. To respect women and men equally. To hold doors open, to come to the aid of the needful and to be true gentlemen.

    My sons stand when a woman comes in a room out of respect. They do not sit until the women (and their elders have been seated). They address people as sir and ma’am and they are polite.

    It is a matter of manners. We can give our children very few things to take with them in their lives – their names, integrity and a sense of honor, and manners.

    Trust me, there are plenty of strong women (and men) still raising their children this way. ;)

  • discerningconservative

    We, very well, might be the last of a dying breed…, but there many who agree with us. It is those who do not that we must take exception with. GOD bless those who served in Vietnam. My father made it out alive, but many, many brave patroits did not! You, Sir’s, are the true hero’s!!!!!! Thank’s DTOM, for your service, and support!!!

  • ocleverone

    Spot on post.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    Perhaps calling her “Your Royal Anus” would be more appropriate!

  • TNJim

    he was having to fight back a sarcastic tone. Amy, it’s kind of refreshing to hear a young lady say you don’t mind somene holding a door for you. Of course, here in the south there are still some women who consider it rudeness if a man doesn’t. All it is is an expression of politeness, but the feminist creed, as in all things liberal, tries to twist it into the exact opposite of how it’s meant.

    And yes, I would call you ma’am for 2 reasons even though you’re more than half my age because 1) the diaries you have written and your comments have earned you my respect and 2) it’s just simple politeness.

  • Amy Miller

    Thank you :o ) I’m always happy to be treated like a lady. It’s that something unexpected that makes all the difference.

  • ocleverone

    I temporarily worked with a couple of enlisted personnel and a doozy of an officer at one time. Throughout the two weeks, one of the enlisted guys would always refer to the officer by his rank – never “sir”. I finally asked him why he did that.

    He said he respected the uniform but had a problem with the man and he reserved saying “aye, aye sir” (or addressing them as “sir”) to those truly deserving.

  • TNJim
  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    It gives me hope that perhaps the angry anti-male feminists have overreached and that some in the upcoming generation are starting to see that the empress has no clothes and that this self-esteem/validation culture is just narcissistic self-deception.

    Of course there’s also a lot of indirect pressure on guys to buy in to the same set of lies.

    Hopefully enough will repent from starting at their reflections in the water before our enemies sneak up from behind and take us prisoner to make us slaves.

  • discerningconservative

    I do agree Mike… but, I stick by my comment, and you need to understand that, although your point is right… trying to take away from my point to make your’s is not always right!…

  • navychick1993

    This broad is a bonafide idiot! I could think of a few more words to call her, but I am really trying to behave. She deserves no respect since she never gives any repsect to other people. Remember the way she use to talk all crazy to Secretary Rice?

  • $peciallist

    Years ago, I held the door for a woman…she stopped and scowled at me, “I have Arms!!…..

    ugg

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    growing under each of them…

  • discerningconservative

    You are a true hero, and raising your children with such respect is admirable. Keep up the good work, and God bless you!!!!

  • http://cannedjam.com cannedjam

    …who has to abruptly remind a man that she has “worked hard” by insisting on the use of a title, must secretly think little of herself to be so caught up in labels.

    This is especially evident in the fact that she took offense to being called “ma’am”, a term many woman take as a sign of respect and would welcome. But I guess to her “Senator” outranks “Ma’am”.

    I wonder what Sen. Boxer thinks of those women who are delighted to be called ma’am.

  • navychick1993

    I was the same way when I served. You would be hard pressed to get me to refer to an officer as “Sir” or “Ma’am” if I didn’t respect them as a person. I always respected the uniform, but some of the people wearing it were less than desirable.

  • ocleverone

    In essence, she diminished her position by insisting he call her by her rank instead of a term of respect.

  • TNJim
  • itrytobenice

    And I just want it known, that I very much appreciate it any time a guy holds a door open for me. And I always make a point to say thank you and smile, just to make up for the stupid harpy he may run into some day that gives feminism a bad name.

  • furious

    …back when she was (D-Larskpur) and kiting checks at the House Bank. Unfortunately it never took. 400+ kited checks, if reports were to be believed.

    We came THIS close to “Sen. Herschenson” back in ’92, but an ill-advised strip-club visit and sympathy for Anita Hill got her a fat sinecure in the Senate. Seventeen years and counting.

    I have some Huggies “L’il Swimmers” that our l’il swimmer no longer needs. What was that Senate office address, again?

  • furious

    …back when she was (D-Larskpur) and kiting checks at the House Bank. Unfortunately it never took. 400+ kited checks, if reports were to be believed.

    We came THIS close to “Sen. Herschenson” back in ’92, but an ill-advised strip-club visit and sympathy for Anita Hill got her a fat sinecure in the Senate. Seventeen years and counting.

    I have some Huggies “L’il Swimmers” that our l’il swimmer no longer needs. What was that Senate office address, again?

  • navychick1993

    I just don’t think she does. (smile)

  • redtillimdead

    Did you seriously tell a General not to call you ma’am and call you Senator? You think YOU worked hard to become a Senator? Do you know how HARD he WORKED to get the title of General? Are you aware that in the military ma’am is a sign of respect? It is FOOLS like you that give the US Congress a bad rep. You are a good excuse for term limits.
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    Oh and by the way, Carly Fiorina 2010! Screw you!

  • jfpurdue01

    He should have responded by saying “Yes, Madam Senator.” :-)

  • USNJIMRET

    Portraying fictional Senator Charles F. Meachum, declaring that “I am a United States Senator”, to excuse a truly deplorable belief that his point of view was vastly superior to all others just because of the Senator part.
    As many have noted, the military refers to a superior officer by the term “Sir” or “Ma’am” rather then the constant reference to their specific rank.
    Boxer was/is just being prissy.
    Which, while nothing new, is all to typical of folks like her.

  • izoneguy

    and if you saw the film you know what happened to the Ned Beatty character.

  • Mike gamecock DeVine

    we can both be right unless you are very young or from another country and claim incompetence based on those factors.

  • mom2oneson
  • mom2oneson

    you hit the nail on the head with insecurity. You see this when they have their first baby or they are faced with a caretaking role for a spouse or parent. They basically freak out instead of stepping up. On the surface it appears they are self centered but I think it’s fear, they have no confidence in their skill as a caretaker.

  • noufa

    He looks good, though.

    Problem is that Boxer has sort of developed a cult following. She’s an embarrassment to the BlueDogs. But she’s working the Ted Kennedy “Liberal Lion of the Senate” angle & national Dems seem willing to rally around her. What’d they say about Washington being Hollywood for ugly people? Name recognition is such a big deal in CA. Too big a deal.

    Good news is that Boxer doesn’t enjoy the same good vibes that the Kennedy family does in MA.

    The CA R party needs to develop a bench & stop treating state contests like a stepping stone for wannabe national leaders. It hasn’t worked since 1980. So that old liberal saw that “Republicans need to get over Reagan” is sort of correct. Though they’re wrong when they say we should abandon Reagan’s policies.

    Even if we lose with DeVore, he’ll build on the experience. At least that’s how I justified my vote for McClintock.

  • CSUFBomb

    …is Larry Elder. Excellent name recognition and never afraid to fight for his principles. If Sweetie (to borrow Obama’s favorite title for women) Boxer is ever vulnerable, it’s right now when there’s an emerging grassroots movement in CA against confiscatory taxes and reckless spending.

    Chuck DeVore is my representative, but I’m afraid he’s virtually invisible outside of O.C.

  • $peciallist

    but, he needs to decide if he’s running..