Thanks to Neil, Steve, and Henry our site is now smoking fast and can handle significantly more traffic.
The other day I got an email from “DaveinBoca” who really went on a rather insulting tangent about site operations. I understand his frustration, but geez — while we hate 500 errors, let’s get serious — our traffic is fantastic these days. Growing pains are a good thing.
DaveinBoca said he’d never, ever, never come back before throwing in a few personal shots at me. Oh well.
For the rest of you, thanks for your continued support. And we really could not have done all this except for Neil and the gang at Eagle. We very much appreciate it.
Consider this an open thread.
UPDATED: I forgot to add Prashant who, I’m told, like Henry is now sleep deprived because of his dedication to helping us.
It's really the Eagle guys
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 11:07AM EDT (link)They buckled down, stayed up late, and got the servers going.
I helped, but that’s really it. I helped, I wasn’t in the lead on this.
I mean, I went to bed last night. The guy who really DID this, didn’t.
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Well then, take credit for all of the other times...
penguin2 Monday, August 17th at 11:20AM EDT (link)You all do a fantastic job and let us say thanks. It is one of the few things we can do, besides taking the messages and lessons learned here at RedState and putting them to work in the world.
As far as ‘DaveinBoca’ it annoys me that people cannot be patient and realize the good out weighs the ‘bad.’ I don’t know of any other site quite like this. People often note how they come back again and again for that very reason. Whenever, I’ve heard Rush mention RedState, which has been with increasing frequency lately,the site immediately slowed to a crawl, but I was thinking positive about it. Not annoyed. I knew that traffic was heavy and that was a good thing.
Well anyway, Neil, take a bow and accept our compliments.
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Thank you Neil and crew
SG_Lominac Monday, August 17th at 11:21AM EDT (link)I always enjoyed Dave in Boca’s posts, that’s a shame he decided to leave but for those of us who hated the 500 errors, it could be worse. We could be shutting down for the day like the city of Chicago. Here’s a call for Neil donation link. I missed the first round.
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There's a tip jar in my RS profile
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 2:12PM EDT (link)Thank you.
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Thank you Neil and crew
SG_Lominac Monday, August 17th at 11:21AM EDT (link)I always enjoyed Dave in Boca’s posts, that’s a shame he decided to leave but for those of us who hated the 500 errors, it could be worse. We could be shutting down for the day like the city of Chicago. Here’s a call for Neil donation link. I missed the first round.
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Thanks to all involved
peg_c Monday, August 17th at 11:09AM EDT (link)It is WAY better. I had to give up altogether, too often. Not anymore!
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
Great work, I just hope it doesn't go down again
Richard Mullins Monday, August 17th at 11:15AM EDT (link)those 500 errors were getting annoying but I’m sure it’s gone for now. Neil, I wonder what they went to in terms of new hardware, was a new Sun Solaris system powered by the new Six Core Opterons?
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From what I can tell ...
George Claghorn Monday, August 17th at 11:24AM EDT (link)… they’re using Ubuntu for an OS. Not sure about the hardware.
(According to BuiltWith)
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5 server cluster
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 11:26AM EDT (link)3 web servers, 2 db servers. Each one substantially more powerful than our old, single box.
And yes, Ubuntu. Fortunately not Solaris.
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For those like me who tend to think of servers
janis Monday, August 17th at 11:40AM EDT (link)as those folks who wear latex gloves while dishing up your food at a restaurant, I stand in awe of your technical skilz, Neil. You’ve managed to get us from Jurassic RedState to RedState Modern Era.
Sustained applause and many thanks to all who made it so!
But the Six core Opteron systems they have
Richard Mullins Monday, August 17th at 11:41AM EDT (link)are fairly powerful. If it wasn’t for the cost of one Six core Opteron at over $2000 a processor(That’s the 8 processor supported, 2 processor ones are cheap), I’d start building one.
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Checking what hardware the boxes have
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 12:32PM EDT (link)Looks like we have two quad core Xeons in.
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According to /proc/cpuinfo (nt)
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Yay for Linux!
Brian Johnson Monday, August 17th at 12:02PM EDT (link)Though my preferred server OS is CentOS….
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If I understood Linux like I do DOS,
Richard Mullins Monday, August 17th at 12:06PM EDT (link)I would be using it, but alas I don’t. The last time I tried to run a Linux distro, I had real problems.
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It's time to try again, Richard
diakrioi Monday, August 17th at 12:15PM EDT (link)My 14-year-old switched to Ubuntu more than a year ago and talked me into it when I bought a new computer a couple of months ago. I am very pleased with my decision. Most of the day-to-day things (word processing, spreadsheet, etc.) work very much like they do in Windows. If you have to go mucking around with settings or install software that is where things get very different.
I should add that I am comfortable working with UNIX since I do that in my job. It also probably helps that I’ve moved a lot of things that I do off of the desktop. For example, I get all of my email thru Gmail now and it never gets downloaded to a client computer.
The last linux disto I used was SuSe 9.0
Richard Mullins Monday, August 17th at 12:23PM EDT (link)but that was on a much different system than now. I’m not sure how it would support it(using mostly onboard except for Video and Wireless) but I really need a 64bit distro(using Vista ultimate on a AMD Athlon x2 4850e based system with 8GB of RAM).
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For average windoz user current Ubuntu is just as easy to run
olsmithie Monday, August 17th at 12:44PM EDT (link)You can run it from the CD without installing to see if you like it before making any changes to your system.
Take a chance!
Regards
Most linux distros have the CD/DVD trial option now.
George Claghorn Monday, August 17th at 12:47PM EDT (link)At least Ubuntu, Fedora, and Debian do.
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You must just have the courage to not get discouraged and have the will to fight on.” – Erick Erickson at RightOnline
5 on the Solaris crack :-) [nt]
bs Monday, August 17th at 12:14PM EDT (link)Decorum is fo’ suckas
Hold onto your hat, bs
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 12:57PM EDT (link)Inside, we’re actually using… gasp.. NFS.
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As long as it ain't Microsoft. [nt]
bs Monday, August 17th at 7:15PM EDT (link)Decorum is fo’ suckas
That old box deserves an honored place
TNJim Monday, August 17th at 12:20PM EDT (link)in a RedState museum of sorts. You could rig it up with a fog effect to simulate smoke coming out of the vents.
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It's actually still in use
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 12:24PM EDT (link)It’s driving the web half of archive.redstate.com
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...
StandardCandle Monday, August 17th at 2:16PM EDT (link)requesting more specs…
Virtualized Host config? or “your very own hardware”?
Quad/Dual core Procs? AMD/Intel? model #?
Memory? DDR3? DIMM capacity/bus speed? #/server?
RAID config?
SAN…? iSCSI or Fiber?
I’m an Enterprise Tech Support Analyst for Dell…
Just curious cause you know… i’m a hardware geek.
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StandardCandle
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 2:32PM EDT (link)Our own boxes hosted by ThePlanet.
2x Quad Core Xeon E5405.
Looks like 20G RAM on the DB servers, 10G on the web servers. Not aware of the physical layout of the RAM as all I know is what I can read from /proc
Looks like no RAID at this time. Just a pair of SCSI drives. A disk for /, and a disk for /var.
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Scratch that
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 2:42PM EDT (link)The real answer: It’s all ball bearings these days.
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...actually quantum nano-bearings...
StandardCandle Monday, August 17th at 5:55PM EDT (link)with a flux hydro-capacitor and bio-metric TPM scan…
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...
StandardCandle Monday, August 17th at 6:06PM EDT (link)I like cari.net for these types of hosting…
They can build a custom cluster for you and their prices are hard to beat.
For the web farm I could see single drives, but the database servers ought to be running a redundancy… on each server… otherwise load balancing is out the window in a drive failure(3 year mean time to fail)… could really bog the system down in that event,
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I always thought Dave_In_Boca was a nice guy.
Vladimir Monday, August 17th at 11:17AM EDT (link)After all, look at his progeny: Dave_in_Fla, Dave_in_ATL, Dave_in_MI to name a few.
My apologies to any of the second generation of Daves who I left out.
I guess there comes a time when we all have to move on. You lose one Dave & two more sprout up to take his place…
Seriously, thanks to Erick, Neil, the Eagle IT guys and whoever else was instrumental in recognizing the necessity of this change & effecting it in a timely way.
There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted. - Arthur Schopenhauer
LOL over the "I'm not coming back" Rant.
phxg Monday, August 17th at 11:32AM EDT (link)Just imagine if all this new traffic showed up on RS 3.0.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle
Thanks for the upgrade!
Uma Richie Monday, August 17th at 11:34AM EDT (link)The difference is amazing!
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Great job, Neil and the folks at Eagle!
TNJim Monday, August 17th at 11:56AM EDT (link)First time in a few weeks I’ve been able to get on the site at this time of day and have it be so fast to load! From what I can tell so far it’s all working great! Let’s see what happens now when Rush mentions us again. That’ll be the real test!.
As I mentioned yesterday now would be a good time to hit the contribute button. Bandwidth costs money, as do high capacity servers as well as the maintenance thereof. Neil, you may have went to bed last night but I know there are times that you haven’t. Caleb wrote a piece a few days ago called Support Independent Conservative Journalism where a couple of links to donate to Neil can be found.
As far as DaveinBoca is concerned, well, some folks just don’t understand the internet. When you start out small and your traffic gets big temporary problems can occur. You guys just didn’t sit back and hope the site hits didn’t fall back to “normal”, you rolled up your sleeves and got to work to keep this level of traffic as the new “normal”. But such moves, especially to a 5 server system from a single box take time to prepare for and get it right. Neil dropped a few hints over the past few days that such a move was in the works, I guess Dave didn’t have the patience to wait for all that to come to fruition. Tsk, tsk. Personal attacks? Really? What a child!
Again, kudos to all involved, and RedState rocks!
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TNJim, I don't even have the knowledge on the tech,
penguin2 Monday, August 17th at 1:08PM EDT (link)but I got it. See antisocial below, Erick posted a warning early evening about proposed shut down; but even then I just wish people could be more appreciative of what we have. This site runs without income from all of us who use it. We are lucky.
And I was thinking about ‘wolfgang’ who asked about linking. Maybe he doesn’t know the’link’ does not show until After the post goes through. This stumped me at first. Thinking I didn’t have a link and then I would just delete it…
It’s okay about penguins and “even a…”I use penguin to deflect the more ‘cruel’ blows.
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Exactly right, penguin.
TNJim Monday, August 17th at 1:25PM EDT (link)When you type out your comments and diaries your links and hyperlinks just show as the code, YouTube embeds, images, that sort of thing. It’s only after you click reply to this or publish that the site software automatically translates it into something you can click on.
You mentioned yesterday about trying hyperlinks next. I use FireFox’s text formatting toolbar for that. You copy the link from your browser same as before, then in your comment you highlight the text you want to make a link out of, click the link button in the toolbar (each tool in the bar will have a small text box come up when you position your cursor over it that tells you what it does), then a small box will appear where you paste in your URL. Click OK and your highlighted text will have the hyperlink code wrapped around it. Click post comment when you’ve finished and when the page reloads there’s your nice, shiny hyperlink! Super easy and great for lazy people like me!
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Obviously
Brian Johnson Monday, August 17th at 12:21PM EDT (link)The upgrade is a result of our deep-pocketed insurance company backers and Rush Limbaugh’s own money to keep the angry mobs riled up (heck, let’s throw in “Big Oil” and “Big Tobacco” as well. Gotta keep the puppet masters happy, donchya know?). If not for them, just like the poor kids at DailyKos, we’d still be limping along on a 486 desktop with a gerbil in a wheel providing CPU power
Great big thank you to *all* the great folks who keep RedState running. You guys do an outstanding job. I’ve got a ton of feeds in my Google(tm) Reader, but time constraints mean that I only get to read a handful. RedState is the only one I make sure gets read regularly.
Seriously, thanks guys!
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You forgot Karl Rove... nt
TNJim Monday, August 17th at 12:24PM EDT (link)“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
Hey, I know I signed over all my astroturf payments
JustLeaveMeAlone Monday, August 17th at 9:25PM EDT (link)to RedState. Didn’t we all?
Many thanks to Neil, Erick, et al, who make this possible.
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Just a quick suggestion
antisocial Monday, August 17th at 12:24PM EDT (link)Maybe planned outages can be communicated in advance. For outages in my support operations I communicate well in advance and frequently enough. We (myself and my Team) send out an update once the activity is complete.
While 500 errors are frustrating regular users should be informed. Not that I support spamming…. We could have people opt in for maintenance updates.
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)
and btw... the response time is definitely better
antisocial Monday, August 17th at 12:28PM EDT (link)but then I never had serious problems with performance in the last 9-10 months I have been here.
No you can’t - Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)
Was it a hardship for you?
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 12:51PM EDT (link)We didn’t think being unable to diary or comment overnight would be a hardship.
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No it was not a hardship at all for me
antisocial Monday, August 17th at 12:59PM EDT (link)I was just pointing out a practice that works well in my support area and could work here. Just thinking from an operations perspective.
No you can’t - Moe Lane
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
Mary Bomo Mac (CA-45)
Mike Castle (DE)
Mark Kirk (IL-10)
Frank A. LoBiondo (NJ-02)
Chris Smith (NJ-04)
Leonard Lance (NJ-07)
John M. McHugh (NY-23)
Dave Reichert (WA-08)
Yeah
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 1:14PM EDT (link)Fair enough. Well, behind the scenes we knew that this was coming. Be assured of that. We just don’t pre-announce things to you guys in case there are delays.
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It was a severe hardship for me ;)
6eorge Jetson Monday, August 17th at 10:50PM EDT (link)Like the Ultra-man of my youth, if I don’t get my RedState new post fix, a light on my chest starts beeping.
I didn’t know if I was going to make it.
In all seriousness, GREAT JOB!!!
HTML help?
scottbomb Monday, August 17th at 1:13PM EDT (link)Speaking of Neil, what ever happened to his HTML for dummies link/instructions? Ever since you guys went to 2.0, I haven’t been able to figure out how to include proper links or pics in my postings.
As for the 500 errors, nothing tests Redstate’s server like Drudge linking to it so we shall see what the future brings.
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HTML Help should still be around somewhere
Neil Stevens Monday, August 17th at 2:13PM EDT (link)Have you checked the Help link?
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The link provided in the Help section
George Claghorn Monday, August 17th at 2:14PM EDT (link)goes to a page that doesn’t exist.
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For those of you who struggle with what goes on, who see retreat and capitulation, and who feel like not just your political opponents, but those who hold dear all those things you hold as blasphemous — be cheerful. Be happy. Victory is already yours.
You must just have the courage to not get discouraged and have the will to fight on.” – Erick Erickson at RightOnline
OK I'll try to restore it soon (nt)
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Here's the link
6eorge Jetson Monday, August 17th at 10:51PM EDT (link)Html help
Cool.Thanks! (nt)
scottbomb Tuesday, August 18th at 6:13PM EDT (link)nt
http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com
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DaveinBoca still has better stories than you Neil
Marcus_Traianus Monday, August 17th at 1:13PM EDT (link)This stuff is boring and besides that I am telling the Solaris guys:-).
All kidding aside though, some of the past issues were very frustrating and can drive readers away. I won’t speak for Dave, but it sounds like his intent was well-meaning. Let’s hope the future is brighter for all you Unixee-techie types.
All this from a guy who runs/has run products which are financial backbones on Tandem and AS/400 (ahem, i-series):-). I guess that makes me an old timer.
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Erick wrote the stuff about DaveInBoca, not me (nt)
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Ah, yes the evil overlord, Erick the Red(stater)
Marcus_Traianus Monday, August 17th at 3:49PM EDT (link)The chains of serfdom and all that.
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
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Followup on the Glenn Beck losing advertisers story
Finrod Monday, August 17th at 2:05PM EDT (link)Here’s a Reuters article about it. I don’t see any mention of State Farm in there, but Geico and Progressive are mentioned:
—
Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.
Great job, Neil, et al.! nt
Achance Monday, August 17th at 2:41PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
Great job guys
WarEagle01 Monday, August 17th at 4:00PM EDT (link)Yes, I experienced the outages as well. The errors, the server down messages or whatever. But I took it for what is was: a heckuva lot more people were now trying to access the site and the existing servers couldn’t handle it. But that wasn’t just a good thing, that was great thing because it meant that thousands more people were tuning in to hear and see the truth about Government Rationed Health Care, Cap and Tax, etc. DaveinBoca is a pantload. Good riddance.
“A wise, doughy leg with rich tingly experiences will always reach better conclusions than will a more tanned, muscular leg that hasn’t felt those thrills.” –Chris Matthews’ Leg
Uh oh, what will Dave in Boca have to beach about now? nt
redneck_hippie Monday, August 17th at 7:10PM EDT (link)“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
Remember NY-23.
Maybe he'll take up Ronulanism (nt)
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OccamsRazor Monday, August 17th at 11:57PM EDT (link).
Best Analogy for Government Efficiency...
DONTREADONME Tuesday, August 18th at 12:27AM EDT (link)Government doing something efficiently is akin to the following little gem of a video…
BTW, I am still finding a few bugs with the site update, of course with the infinite bandwidth of a cable modem late at night, I can not tell a difference from a few days ago.
Then again it could be that IE 8 bites.
“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth
Ya think?
Fred Maidment Tuesday, August 18th at 12:48AM EDT (link)“Then again it could be that IE 8 bites.”
Um, no offense but, duh.
As for the Swedish Chef, he *is* a good analogy for government. He speaks a different language, he is hard to understand when he’s actually speaking English, he uses the wrong instruments to get the job done, makes a mess, and when he’s done it’s nothing like what you wanted.
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Fred, you get the gold star for...
DONTREADONME Tuesday, August 18th at 12:59AM EDT (link)your interpretation of what I thinking when I posted that clip.
BTW, when it comes to browsers I am a amateur, do not know what else to try as a browser. My beef with Microsoft is IE7 worked just find for me until they had to go all fancy with IE8. It seems they are reverting back to the issues we had with IE6.
“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth
DTOM, make FireFox your friend
TNJim Tuesday, August 18th at 1:11AM EDT (link)There’s so any add-ons for it you can customize it to your heart’s content. From the indispensable text formatting toolbar to one that even makes it behave like IE (why you’d want that I have no idea) plus they update security wise much more frequently than Microsnot does IE, especially security updates.
Try it, you’ll like it.
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oh, and...
DONTREADONME Tuesday, August 18th at 1:00AM EDT (link)one other point in the video I was trying to make, the Government (military)tends to blow things up rather well, i.e. perfect hole in the donutl.
“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth
While we're talkin site stuff...
6eorge Jetson Tuesday, August 18th at 12:50AM EDT (link)What’s up with the anti-insurance industry/free market ad at the top?