For 42 years, the God and Country Rally in Idaho has started its rally with a military fly over.
The God and Country Rally is a non-denominational rally that supports American soldiers.
For 42 years the Pentagon has carried out the military fly over.
Not any more.
In Barack Obama’s America, the military is no longer allowed to do such things if the group requesting the fly over is Christian oriented.
That’s not an exaggeration.
Let’s roll the tape:
JadedByPolitics
Michael Becker
Ben Domenech
Erick Brockway
Simple. Just change the name to
blooch Friday, August 21st at 9:14AM EDT (link)Goddam Country Rally, and Obama will send a whole fighter wing over.
“The government has absolutely no right to keep *peaceful* individuals out of the U.S.”–mtnrunner2
“Far, far more money has been spent fighting and denying climate policy than has ever been spent funding it.”–muggedbyrealism
“Just because the govt. says they don’t export oil doesn’t mean they don’t, if they say that and it’s really them saying it.”–karenlee
Funny!!
itrytobenice Friday, August 21st at 12:09PM EDT (link)Of course the problem was, it had two things BO doesn’t like.
God and Country.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
This will get out into the Country
Section9 Friday, August 21st at 9:15AM EDT (link)This is the kind of dumbsh*t thing that Democratic apparatchiks do when they have The Power. It seeps down into the public conciousness and people think, “oh, well, okay, I’ll show them in November!”
Republicans did their own share of dumb, oafish things when we controlled all the levers. We will again. Look at this kind of thing as a cautionary tale of agnostic, statist ideology trying to trump the traditions of the country.
Let’s remember not to do this kind of thing when we get back on top. After all, stupid is as stupid does.
“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill
What Things?
erp Friday, August 21st at 10:04AM EDT (link)Refresh my memory, what oafish things did Republicans do to show their contempt for American traditions?
erp
James Watt banned the Beach Boys
blooch Friday, August 21st at 10:15AM EDT (link)from the National Mall, saying rock and roll concerts drew “an undesirable element”, and Ronald Reagan himself declared that Ketchup was a vegetable, when American tradition holds that it is a condiment.
“The government has absolutely no right to keep *peaceful* individuals out of the U.S.”–mtnrunner2
“Far, far more money has been spent fighting and denying climate policy than has ever been spent funding it.”–muggedbyrealism
“Just because the govt. says they don’t export oil doesn’t mean they don’t, if they say that and it’s really them saying it.”–karenlee
BB & KETCHUP
beanerecmo Friday, August 21st at 10:43AM EDT (link)Reagan overruled Watts. Ketchup as a vegetable; well, we do know that tomatoes are actually a fruit - http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutother/tomato.
I was a liberal until I learned to read, got a job and was mugged by willful tax and spend regressives (aka progressives) and naive acolytes.
I thought the only purpose for military planes
bk Friday, August 21st at 9:19AM EDT (link)was shuttling around members of Congress.
lol bk! 5!!! nt
mom2oneson Friday, August 21st at 9:56AM EDT (link)Obviously then, you forgot
itrytobenice Friday, August 21st at 12:04PM EDT (link)we also need them to shepherd AF1 around when BO buzzes NYC.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
It's official: Whatever Americans love, he hates
peg_c Friday, August 21st at 9:30AM EDT (link)Who other than a rabid lefty doesn’t love a flyover?
Never listened to Jeremiah “God D@MN America!!” Wright my asp.
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
We all knew Jeremiah Wright played major role in his life even those who denied it
avgamerican Saturday, August 22nd at 12:44AM EDT (link)What is it about human nature that prevents them from calling something what it is?
Easy to overcome. Just say they are escorting AF1 to NY again.
Marcus_Traianus Friday, August 21st at 9:37AM EDT (link)We wasted- what. a few $100k for some snazzy pictures of Air Force One?
This is easy to remedy, just say the FA-18’s are going to escort AF1 for some additional photos. Then just change the waypoints and have them go via Boise.
No. Really.
I still have a few friends in the 7th owe me favors
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B. Hussein is no Christian, this proves it
RedWhite_and_Truth Friday, August 21st at 9:47AM EDT (link)I am sick and tired of false believers who invoke the name of Jesus, but allow their actions to demonstrate that they wouldn’t know Him if He showed up right in front of them.
Odumba misquotes Jesus too, just like the subject of Saul Alinsky’s book dedication misquotes Jesus.
How is this different than Blue Angel shows?
mom2oneson Friday, August 21st at 10:08AM EDT (link)Can’t they say it’s for recruiting like they do with those?
OMG!!! You're right!
Paul_In_Houston Friday, August 21st at 12:42PM EDT (link)Obviously, we must also ban military planes from air shows if there’s a chance that more than 50% of the audience is Christian.
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Is this the same president
TNJim Friday, August 21st at 11:48AM EDT (link)who just recently appealed to some rabbis to support his health care scheme? Who said “We are God’s partners in matters of life and death”? He tries to appeal to religious leaders to promote his legislation then provides this slap in the face?
I can’t decide who he wants to diss the most, Christians or the military this flyover was supposed to honor. I’ll just compromise and say both, equally.
Most. duplicitous. President. ever!
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Change the name to Allah & Country??? nt
mbecker908 Friday, August 21st at 1:04PM EDT (link)If I could please have a moment alone with the Christians?
CincoSolas_del_Bronx Friday, August 21st at 4:01PM EDT (link)One category that has not surfaced yet in the comments will come into play if you answer the following questions (and of course references would be helpful, primarily the word of truth correctly handled, or creedal, confessional, catechismal and historical applications subject to the same).
In the light of the last line of The Mission of the God and Country Festival:
1) in what ways is the presence of a military display beneficial to the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ,
2) in what ways is the presence of a military display detrimental to the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ,
3) in what ways is the absence of a military display beneficial to the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and
4) in what ways is the absence of a military display detrimental to the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
Those dreading urbanization should remember that though the Kingdom of God first appeared in a temporal Garden, at the end of the book it is established in an eternal City. (paraphrase, James M. Boice)
soli Deo gloria
Tell the POTUS it's an Islam gathering..
smitch61 Friday, August 21st at 11:44PM EDT (link)I am sure he will okay it at that point.
He would secretly agree with you
avgamerican Saturday, August 22nd at 12:51AM EDT (link)He despises the thought of a Christian country fighting for right and good symbolized by American strength. No we don’t pretend to think God needs us to honor Him with a flyover. Just a demonstration of our appreciation of His grace and blessing to allow us to live in a free country. An appreciation of God in our heritage. POTUS however, believes in another god.
Except it's not...
SteveLA Saturday, August 22nd at 1:06PM EDT (link)Erick,
Respectfully you have a few of the facts wrong.
The God and Country Rally is a non-denominational rally that supports American soldiers.
For 42 years the Pentagon has carried out the military fly over.
From a press release on the festival’s site.
“The Pentagon decided to turn down our request for a military flyover to honor our veterans at the 43rd Annual Treasure Valley God and Country Festival that took place on July 1, 2009, even though we have had numerous flyovers in the past. We want to make it clear that although it is unashamedly a Christian event”
This is not a non-denominational event, and they have not had overflights for 43 contiguous years.
In some past years, especially during the Carter administration and probably during the Gulf Wars, overflights were severely restricted due to budget and air crews involved in combat actions. Open houses at AFB have also been canceled under these constraints too and those are major public relations events for and with the local community.
But still, this is a very stupid action on the part of the Obama White House, assuming that the decision reached it, and for sure the Secretary of the Air Force Michael Bruce Donley needs to investigate why this particular overflight was denied and is there a consistent standard for approval of overflights that does not discriminate against any group.
Overflights are as much a recruiting tool as an honor to veterans and the community and last time I checked being a Christian is not a reason to be excluded from service in the US Armed forces. Assuming that this Festival has a sufficiently large turn out, there should have been no reason for denial of this request, heck there are probably pilots who would have been very happy to get some training hours to do the overflight flight.
This was a very dumb move on the part of someone, that much is a fact.
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We'll see how long they continue to have flyovers at NASCAR
Achance Saturday, August 22nd at 1:19PM EDT (link)events as well. I thought the end had come last week at Michigan but the flyover was only late. Since a NASCAR race embodies just about everything the communists hate about America, I suspect we won’t see government “support” in the form of color guards and flyovers much longer.
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Art, I'm wondering the same thing after I read Erick's article.
TNJim Saturday, August 22nd at 2:30PM EDT (link)I live just 15 miles from Bristol Motor Speedway. As you know NASCAR is in town this weekend. Now at this time of day before the August night race you can occasionally hear them take off from the airport, which is only 4 miles from me for their practice run, but nothing yet. But they occasionally do fly in directly from another base without a practice run, so I’m not giving up on there being a flyover here yet. In light of what Erick talked about here, though, and the point you made, plus the fact NASCAR’s fan base is made of largely of (gasp!) freedom loving, patriotic, right leaning Americans (some of whom still fly the Confederate flag in the infields and campgrounds) I’m afraid I’m in agreement with you here.
We’ll see.
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TNJim Saturday, August 22nd at 2:31PM EDT (link)My fault, not the site’s
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If you want to know more
SteveLA Saturday, August 22nd at 3:48PM EDT (link)You can Google DoD Form 2535, which lays out how to apply for a fly over.
Your average NASCAR event attracts what in person 500K+ fans in person and another 2 to 3 Million on TV, I’d think as a recruiting tool, flyovers and presence of military color guards is pretty much a done deal. The event that this blog discusses attracted 12K folks by the way according to news reports.
I’d like to see the AF release a statement on why they rejected the application for a fly over and if there was any pressure brought by the Obama administration in the name of full disclosure.
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