No kidding. The feds want “all baby boys born in the United States” circumcised.
Experts are also considering whether the surgery should be offered to adult heterosexual men whose sexual practices put them at high risk of infection. But they acknowledge that a circumcision drive in the United States would be unlikely to have a drastic impact: the procedure does not seem to protect those at greatest risk here, men who have sex with men.
Recently, studies showed that in African countries hit hard by AIDS, men who were circumcised reduced their infection risk by half. But the clinical trials in Africa focused on heterosexual men who are at risk of getting H.I.V. from infected female partners.
Health wise, it does make sense for more than just HIV/AIDS. I’ve always found the groups out there who feel somehow abused because mom and dad circumcised them to be very bizarre. Andrew Sullivan calls it “male genital mutilation.” Sullivan is against parents doing the God ordained act. Sullivan has HIV, by the way, and I don’t know whether he is or is not . . . let’s just not go there.
In any event, this got me thinking about Obamacare. The government already denies children access to schooling if the children do not have certain vaccines. If we are all on government healthcare — an eventuality if the Democrats have anything to do about it — think about what else they can do to us.
The government could conceivably deny you health coverage unless you alter your diet to fit the whim of a bureaucrat. The government could refuse to pay for your hip replacement if you don’t stop smoking or drinking. The government can do whatever the government wants once you are enslaved to it.
Just look at how the government manipulates individual actions via the tax code. Now add to that mandatory health insurance run by the government.
This isn’t just about saving money and having choices. This is about liberty.
HIV/AIDS can be eradicated within 2 generations.
phxg Monday, August 24th at 4:09PM EDT (link)Of course the methods to complete that feat is unacceptable to the free love leftys.
Besides, the spread of this disease is a direct result of entirely controllable behaviors, not some small piece of penile skin.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle
You Expect Self-Control
Ausonius Monday, August 24th at 4:49PM EDT (link)from 21st Century Americans, the over-eaters, over-drivers, over-polluters, over-sexed, over-bearing Americans????
How unrealistic!
Anyway: Don’t you know the Leftists are trying to free you from self-control?
By having the FedGov control you?
Everybody gets to keep their tonsils
LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Monday, August 24th at 7:22PM EDT (link)But you have to pay for your tonsils with your foreskin.
Yea and it was made so, for the boy resident hath made it to be ordained. And so it was in the ninth year after the end of the reign of King Bill of the Dog of Horns had ended.
“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”
try facts instead of phobia
kewe65 Tuesday, August 25th at 7:48PM EDT (link)holy mackerel, you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.
the controllable behavior you’re talking about is not free love, its a) lack of access to prevention, made more difficult by the Bush administration, and b) reckless behavior by men of all age groups, all sexual orientations and - sorry to inform you - all political orientations too.
when dems and repubs alike flail around with your so-called free love, they are a microcosm of poor choices when it comes to sexual behavior
its simply moronic to suggest that what the CDC does is directed by the executive branch of the US government. yes, its part of the Dept of HHS, but has complete autonomy to organize, restructure, and make recommendations of risks to the general population, which is what is actually at work here.
If you did even the slightest bit of reading into the topic of circumcision, you’d see that this has been recommended for hygienic reasons for decades. to suggest otherwise is simply sophomoric.
the government will get
marcuscicero Monday, August 24th at 4:18PM EDT (link)my foreskin when they pry it from my cold dead hand.
You might want to rethink the visual on that statement -nt-
civil_truth Monday, August 24th at 4:29PM EDT (link)And Rightly So!
LOL -nt-
Lammo Monday, August 24th at 4:45PM EDT (link)ACORN: Association of Criminals Obama Represented in the Nineties. (jupitersuite)
Don’t be so open minded that your brains fall out. (Fr. John Corapi, SOLT)
Crime never takes a holiday. (Dennis J. O’Shea, R.I.P.)
Unlawful is against the law. Illegal is a sick bird. (Ooold joke)
Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read. (Groucho Marx)
Ewww....
blooch Monday, August 24th at 4:46PM EDT (link)If you’re going to Townhall meetings, dont’t put that on a sign.
lol
“I have to admit that Karl Marx (1818-1883) was a smart man. He was, in many ways, a psychologist.”–drealoth
blooch wins the thread. [nt]
Moe Lane Monday, August 24th at 4:52PM EDT (link)NT
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My (blogging-related) wish list.
Dude.
George Claghorn Monday, August 24th at 4:56PM EDT (link)That visual was not necessary. Thanks.
“Victory comes, though we know not when. We must be happy warriors until the end.
For those of you who struggle with what goes on, who see retreat and capitulation, and who feel like not just your political opponents, but those who hold dear all those things you hold as blasphemous — be cheerful. Be happy. Victory is already yours.
You must just have the courage to not get discouraged and have the will to fight on.” – Erick Erickson at RightOnline
Glad you like that quote
Erick Erickson Monday, August 24th at 5:23PM EDT (link)On occasion I can be profound.
Who will stand on either hand and keep this bridge with me?
Demolition Man
RJD Monday, August 24th at 4:42PM EDT (link)yes, the bad movie with Stallone, Snipes and Sandra Bullock. 1994, I think. but, the future “utopia” depicted in the movie makes me cringe every time I read about the details in these government bills.
Yeah, there were a few “cool” technological gadgets in the movie that might be fun, but everything else… I’d rather eat rat burgers in the sewers, ya know.
From your mouth to God's Partner's ear:
janis Monday, August 24th at 5:01PM EDT (link)He’ll be pleased to grant your request, RJD. Rat burgers in the sewer it is. Without buns. And no pickles or mustard.
And no singing catchy jingles from TV ads circa 1965-70 either.
1970 Oldsmobile 442
RJD Monday, August 24th at 5:35PM EDT (link)As long as this car or one similar is around, too.
My son got his hands on a 1965 Plymouth Fury
janis Monday, August 24th at 5:46PM EDT (link)which even his dad started drooling over. Everything’s original, just needs some work. You can have your car—but you don’t get any gas.
Bingo. ".. it has been deemed that everything that is not good for you is bad. Hence... illegal." (n/t)
Finrod Monday, August 24th at 5:26PM EDT (link).
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Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.
Has Obama actually gone on record about this?
mallcopsaysno Monday, August 24th at 5:27PM EDT (link)Didn’t see him quoted in the piece. A google search for “Obama” “circumcision” didn’t turn up anything relevant.
I refused to apologize for chickenhawking when told to.
Eisenhower was right.The 8-ball says.
blooch Monday, August 24th at 9:09PM EDT (link)“Try Again Later.”
“I have to admit that Karl Marx (1818-1883) was a smart man. He was, in many ways, a psychologist.”–drealoth
Let's pretend for just a moment that Obama is President
janis Monday, August 24th at 5:32PM EDT (link)and every policy that is issued by his administration is something that he is responsible for ultimately. Just like George W. Bush had to be responsible for every single thing that happened on his watch.
You know, that “The buck stops here” stuff?
This was a reply to mallcopsaysno just above.
janis Monday, August 24th at 5:33PM EDT (link)Could have sworn I hit “Reply to This”.
Interesting to note
mallcopsaysno Monday, August 24th at 6:08PM EDT (link)Georganne Chapin, who is referenced in the article as the leader of Intact America, is evidently <a href=”http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=Chapin&fname=Georganne+&search=Search”a Democrat.
I refused to apologize for chickenhawking when told to.
Eisenhower was right.Oops
mallcopsaysno Monday, August 24th at 6:09PM EDT (link)Link here.
I refused to apologize for chickenhawking when told to.
Eisenhower was right.We can make healthcare cheaper for everybody, we just need a little bit off the top...
tantytantalus Monday, August 24th at 6:18PM EDT (link)Cuttin’ willies to cut costs: The New American Way.
give it a break
spandrel Monday, August 24th at 7:05PM EDT (link)I’m sick of folks who claim to love democracy dissing government. If you love democracy, then you gotta get behind a government, which is, by construction, of the people, as long as everything is consititutional. If you don’t like circumcision, pass an amendment against it.
Sorry, usually I just lurk, but I had a couple of martinis.
cheers!
The colonists were told the same thing
JustLeaveMeAlone Monday, August 24th at 7:26PM EDT (link)and called traitors for questioning the government.
Patrick Henry said, “If this be treason, make the most of it!”
Thomas Jefferson wrote that government “derives its just powers from the consent of the governed”.
Key word: CONSENT. The rights and power belong to the People.
This isn’t about foreskins or even ice floes for the elderly. It’s about a power grab over our lives by the now dem- and lib-controlled Federal Government.
I do NOT consent. And I won’t give it a break or shut up about it.
BTW, that Constitution you mentions says, specifically, that all power resides with the People, then States, then the Federal Government. So unless the Constitution now states the Feds have these rights over our bodies (or we, by our silence, allow it), they do NOT, under our Constitution, have that right.
As for foreskins, I could not care less. That’s an individual choice. And that’s how it should remain. A CHOICE by an INDIVIDUAL.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
I'm sick of dorks who pretend that government and society are one and the same
LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Monday, August 24th at 7:26PM EDT (link)The government has exactly zero (0%) reason getting involved in whether people keep or clip their foreskins, or tonsils, or unibrows, or whatever. Where is circumcision in the list of enumerated powers the government has? Find it in the Constitution, and the general welfare doesn’t count because it is clearly a rhetorical phrase, not a prescription.
“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”
You definitely shouldn't drink before you comment, spandrel.
janis Monday, August 24th at 8:05PM EDT (link)Pass a constitutional amendment to prevent the gov. from forcing circumcision? And how would you phrase that particular amendment? Should we also include that the gov. doesn’t get to force female circumcision as well?
Perhaps lurking is, after all, your strong suite.
"as long as everything is consititutional"
Vegas_Rick Monday, August 24th at 7:15PM EDT (link)Very little of what this administration has done meets your own requirements.
Go back to lurking.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Nice article, but ...
preeder Tuesday, August 25th at 2:16AM EDT (link)… not entirely true everywhere. Here in AZ the government cannot deny schooling for children who have not received any vaccination. The government does reserve the right to ask parents of children without specific vaccinations to keep the children home during an outbreak. This seems like a great compromise between parental rights and public protection.
As a brand new father, I could be wrong on this, but I am positive this is exactly what our (brand new) pediatrician told us.