Clay Land is a Federal Judge in the Middle District of Georgia, Columbus Division.
He is a Bush appointee and a solid guy. When I was a lawyer we has some interaction.
Today, he threw out Connie Rhodes’s lawsuit. That lawsuit is the one filed claiming Rhodes cannot be deployed to Iraq because Barack Obama is “not constitutionally eligible to act as Commander in Chief of the United States armed forces.”
According to Judge Land, “After conducting a hearing on Plaintiff’s motion, the Court finds that Plaintiff’s claims are frivolous. Accordingly, her application for a temporary restraining order (Doc. 3) is denied, and her Complaint is dismissed in its entirety. Furthermore, Plaintiff’s counsel is hereby notified that the filing of any future actions in this Court, which are similarly frivolous, shall subject counsel to sanctions.”
Also, Judge Land notes, “Plaintiff’s counsel is a self-proclaimed leader in what has
become known as ‘the birther movement.’”
I love that he called it the Birther movement and I love that he said he’d impose sanctions if the lawyer even attempts to bring this back up in his court.
Clay Land is a great American hero.
Right on (nt)
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bs Wednesday, September 16th at 1:16PM EDT (link)Decorum is fo’ suckas
Nah, Bush appointee, remember?
Neil Stevens Wednesday, September 16th at 1:24PM EDT (link)It all makes sense to them: Obama is a neocon plot to destroy the White race and ensure supremacy for the Elders of Zion.
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Point, set, match. nt
aesthete Wednesday, September 16th at 2:05PM EDT (link)Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
-Ayn Rand
“I am a freeman in a free state!”
-Last words of Dumnorix, chieftan of the Aedui, 54 BC
But, c'mon
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 2:14PM EDT (link)We really don’t know, do we.
Why did he spend so much money fighting it?
Why doesn’t he just show the cert (real one, not the fake) once and for all?
And what about his college transcripts?
He’s sneaky and is hiding something.
Kenya? Indonesian? Pakistani? Muslim?
I don’t know. But he does.
And he’s not telling. Why not?
Is he really American?
"Is he really American?"
aesthete Wednesday, September 16th at 2:25PM EDT (link)Not really, but his birth certificate says that he is, as reported by the Honolulu Times back when he was born, so the point is moot.
As to the other Qs, I have no idea, but none of those should be considered in a legal argument, as Obama is perfectly within his rights to commit to all of the actions that you mentioned, even if he is hiding something (which he undoubtedly is).
Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
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then he should "not really" be in office
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 3:20PM EDT (link)should he?
Nope, but he was put there
aesthete Wednesday, September 16th at 11:52PM EDT (link)by the electoral college and is legally a US citizen, so there’s no point in bemoaning what has already happened.
Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
-Ayn Rand
“I am a freeman in a free state!”
-Last words of Dumnorix, chieftan of the Aedui, 54 BC
I'm telling you, he's secretly Jewish (nt)
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we *know* he's not a Christian
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 3:25PM EDT (link)and he talked about his Muslim faith.
He must be either Kenyan or Indonesian. Not sure what we can do about it since the courts are in tank for him. Can’t trust them any more than the “official” 9/12 march count when we know it at least 1.7 million like Beck said, proven by the university count.
But are the Trilateral Commission and the Elders of Zion in the tank for Obama too?
civil_truth Wednesday, September 16th at 3:31PM EDT (link)Inquriing minds want to know.
And Rightly So!
sigh. the courts know he'll do to them
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 3:39PM EDT (link)what he did to the auto and bank CEOs if they don’t play ball. After all, it’s the “Chicago way.”
Why do you think the Obamedia and the DC “officials” are lying about the march count?
Wow, the Trilaterals hold the courts?
Neil Stevens Wednesday, September 16th at 3:41PM EDT (link)I thought the Bilderbergers had those.
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if they can lie about the 9/12 march number
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 3:45PM EDT (link)saying it was only “tens of thousands” when we know it’s been proven by university count that it was at least 1.7 million, they can lie about his nationality and religion.
Better watch out though
Neil Stevens Wednesday, September 16th at 5:12PM EDT (link)If they can do all that, they can get you for speaking out.
Make sure to shield yourself from infrared and electromagnetic scanners. A thin layer of Aluminum will do the trick.
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It's the Stonecutters. Everybody knows that.
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Jackal4444 Wednesday, September 16th at 4:10PM EDT (link)you’re drifting into the realm of conspiracy theory. Hey, I like Glenn Beck too, but he’s not the most accurate of observers 100% of the time — you need to take him with a grain of salt. As I understand it, there is no statutory guidance for enforcement of the constitutional requirement of being a “natural born citizen” for presidential eligibility, and President Obama has met all the traditional requirements of being vetted by the media. Perhaps that will change in the future (I believe at least one Congressman has proposed requiring more detailed proof of citizenship), but for now, Judge Land ruled appropriately, refusing to substitute his ideology for that of the legislature. That said, I’d probably stop short of calling him a “great American hero”; doesn’t leave alot of room for Washington, Lincoln and the like.
Jackal4444 let's not conflate Glenn Beck with the Birther's ok...
Aaron Gardner Wednesday, September 16th at 4:15PM EDT (link)Beck is not a birther and hasn’t supported the birthers. No reason to drag him into this.
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conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Sorry, I just mentioned Beck...
Jackal4444 Wednesday, September 16th at 4:28PM EDT (link)because Red Dawn conflated his birther argument with Beck’s 1.7M 9/12 march count. Like I said, I like Beck, I watch him every day, and I’ve never heard Beck say anything in support of birthers (or the march count, for that matter) — but I do think Beck occasionally goes over the line rhetorically.
beck quoted the number
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 4:34PM EDT (link)on fox, referencing the university count proving the 1.7 mil figure.
not Beck's numbers
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 4:23PM EDT (link)Like he said, it was a university count that proved the 1.7 million figure.
Red, can you provide me with a link...
Jackal4444 Wednesday, September 16th at 4:34PM EDT (link)or source for this “university count”; I haven’t seen it? I have seen the Metro numbers released for that weekend, which if I recall correctly would point to a crowd size of 400-500K. I have no no problem believing as many as 700K, maybe even 1M, but a 1.7M number would seem wildly inflated.
unfortunately, no I can't
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 4:40PM EDT (link)Beck forgot which university. I expect that he’ll come out with the name and link to the source soon.
60-75k as per DC officials
nickinvirginia Wednesday, September 16th at 6:57PM EDT (link)Fire Dept said 60-75K…Beck couldn’t name the university, therefore the only reputable number would be that of the officials.
Why are DC officials reputable
Neil Stevens Wednesday, September 16th at 7:34PM EDT (link)Aren’t they pro-Obama?
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I'm calling BS, 60-70k in DC on Penn. Ave in one still shot...
DONTREADONME Wednesday, September 16th at 7:53PM EDT (link)I did the analysis of the still frame taken from the building overlooking PA Ave and 14th st NW. It is easy, from the capital building to that point can easily hold 60-70k. I haven’t even counted the side streets yet.
“The UN is right? you can’t be any more “un”; Than you are right now, the UN is undone, Another mushroom cloud, another smoking gun, The threat is real, the Locust King has come, Don’t tell me the truth; I don’t like what they’ve done, Just give me ammo for the United Abominations”-Megadeth
Tell you what red_dawn...
mbecker908 Wednesday, September 16th at 10:31PM EDT (link)save everybody a whole lot of trouble and do this:
1. Post a diary about why you think Obama isn’t Constitutionally qualified.
2. Please - and this is the major part of the diary - tell us, assuming you are right, exactly what should be done to right this wrong. Note WHO should do WHAT and by exactly what authority it should be done.
3. What would the result of “2″ be?
I don't have the answers to these questions
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 11:00PM EDT (link)or questions about his nationality and religion. Probably he’s American, although I’ll never believe he’s a true Christian.
But I just want him to answer the questions. It’s not impossible that the Obamedia could lie about this just like they’re lying about there not being 1.7 million at the 9/12 march.
OR he's American (nt)
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nah -- he's just embarrassed
Lord_Vegas Wednesday, September 16th at 6:01PM EDT (link)He shouldn’t be, We’ve gotten over the stigma of a bast*rd president with President Clinton.
President Obama is ashamed of the fact that his real father was Frank Marshall Davis…and so he tried to hide it.
We got over it, so should he.
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Complete conspiracy theory.
naraht Wednesday, September 16th at 4:32PM EDT (link)Once it got to the point where the Birthers were indicating that Hawaii *Republican Governor Laura Lingle had to be in on the conspiracy because she wouldn’t allow the “real” birth certificate to be shown, I completely walked away.
Besides, the best comment I’ve heard about the Birthers is “Success doesn’t get you President McCain, it gets you President Biden or even President Pelosi”.
I’m not really sure who the Birthers want to work down to in the order of Succession: It goes Biden, Pelosi, Byrd, Hillary, Geithner, Gates, Holder…
The Vast Bipartisan Conspiracy, as I call it (nt)
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Yup
naraht Thursday, September 17th at 2:35PM EDT (link)Sometimes I really think some of the Birthers believe that *McCain* was part of the conspiracy.
OTOH, can you imagine what the results of the election would have looked like if McCain had started stating Birther beliefs during the debates?
Biden is not legitimate either
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 4:38PM EDT (link)because he got elected with the fraudulent Obama. All his appointees are also fraudulent so the election would revert to the person with the next most votes, McCain.
If he has any class about it, he’ll defer it to Palin and we can start cleaning out the stalls.
sorry, meant to reply to naraht
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 4:39PM EDT (link)n/t
Try reading the Constitution
Neil Stevens Wednesday, September 16th at 5:14PM EDT (link)Now you’re just looking ignorant.
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well, I guess I don't know what would happen
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 5:22PM EDT (link)exactly. But wouldn’t the SCOTUS be able to declare Biden and all Obama’s appointees as frauds?
Maybe we should wait till after we retake the House so Pelosi doesn’t get elevated even farther above where she would be in any correctly run society.
No, really, read the Constitution
Neil Stevens Wednesday, September 16th at 5:30PM EDT (link)Come back when you’ve done so, and be prepared to tell us where it says the election of the Vice President is connected to the election of the President. Also, read the Constitutional provisions for succession, and related portions of the US Code.
You’re just embarassing yourself here.
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my god..
nickinvirginia Wednesday, September 16th at 7:00PM EDT (link)This dude just keeps coming back for more abuse. Maybe President Obama was born on Mars and his real parents are intergalactic space people, who sent their son here on a secret mission to destroy America, by fluoride-ing the water. Quick, build your tinfoil ship, so that you and your tin-foiled hat buddies can sail away to a safe place where “they” can’t get you!
nickinvirgina you'll just have to trust me on this one...
mbecker908 Wednesday, September 16th at 10:33PM EDT (link)we haven’t EVEN BEGUN to heap abuse on this pinhead.
You're an embarrassment! nt
Achance Wednesday, September 16th at 6:38PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
That's not how it works.
BlueLandRed Wednesday, September 16th at 7:10PM EDT (link)Obama is the President because he won the vote in the Electoral College. Period. Every thing he’s done as President is legit because he the guy that got the most Electoral votes and then took the oath of office. If SCOTUS declares him illegible to be President, the order isn’t retroactive and doesn’t undo anything he’s done as President. All that would happen is that Obama would cease to be President and we’d follow the 25th amendment… so Biden gets promoted.
And the odds that SCOTUS would even agree to hear the case is remote as finding breathable oxygen in space and that’s not even considering the complete lack of evidence the Brithers have. They are a complete embarrassment to themselves and I wish they’d just shut up.
OK, now I get your point
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 5:49PM EDT (link)So let’s wait till we retake the House, get Obama thrown out, and impeach Biden.
I’d personally like it if we elected Palin into the House, maybe an Alaskan rep can take one for the team and resign. Then she could be elected majority leader and brought in as the new, rightful President.
But I’d support almost any Republican over the Faker-in-Chief.
You clearly don't
Neil Stevens Wednesday, September 16th at 6:35PM EDT (link)I’m not aware of any impeachable offenses commtted by Biden, nor what Sarah Palin has to do with any of this.
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Your kind response has made me laugh hard
Jack_Savage Wednesday, September 16th at 8:50PM EDT (link)It just did.
I ask all of you to read it in a Foghorn Leghorn voice, then a Monty Python voice.
(Full disclosure - I have had nothing to drink).
"Reply To This" is your friend
civil_truth Wednesday, September 16th at 6:42PM EDT (link)…and the way you’re going, you need all the friends you can get…
And Rightly So!
....geeeesus..
nickinvirginia Wednesday, September 16th at 7:13PM EDT (link)So, your lunatic thoery has several steps:
1. Obama would get thrown out. Doubtful, seeing as how he was, you know, born in Hawaii and all. Not to mention the fact that the state of Hawaii has confirmed - twice - that his original BC states that fact. Also, not to mention that the copy of his BC that has been online for over a year, is the same copy any Hawaii resident would get when requesting a BC, because all BCs have been computerized.
- But reality doesn’t matter - moving on!
2. Biden would then get impeached, although he has committed 0 impeachable offenses. Good luck there.
3. Then Alaska congressman Young (there is only 1 Alaska rep, but its ok, keep following along) would decide to resign. lol..yea ok, Young should think about resigning as we speak considering how tainted he is.
4. Palin would then have to win election a state wide election for his seat. This, is by far, the most reality based contention that you have made.
5. Then, this freshman congresswoman would become majority leader, even though the Democrats have the majority and the majority leader in the house (and the Senate for that matter) are not in the line of succession. So, scratch that, she would need to become Speaker of the House, and obviously the Democrats with their huge majority in the House would not only elect a Republican to be Speaker, would not only elect a Freshman congresswoman, would not only elect a Republican, but would also elect Palin; a figure despised by the left.
- Oh, I made a mistake, you want to wait til the Republicans take back the house. Ok, yes, it is logical, of course, that the Republican leadership in the house, members who have been jockeying for their positions and have that Speakership in the back of their minds would allow freshman congresswoman Palin to leap frog them all…of course…its almost as likely as the prior situation happening.
- Again reality doesnt matter -
6. Finally, she is appointed the “rightful” president. Unfortunately, because your timeline puts her getting elected after Biden is impeached, the Speaker of the House at the time would actually be President and Palin would still be a freshman congresswoman.
I’m glad I explained that all to you. I hope the words were not too big for you to understand. Now, go read the Constitution; its easy to find. Try Google.
You did use one word too big for him
naraht Thursday, September 17th at 2:41PM EDT (link)Constitution
What Erick Said
AndrewHyman Wednesday, September 16th at 6:11PM EDT (link)Seems like a reasonable decision by Judge Land. It’s virtually certain that Obama was born in Hawaii. Nonetheless, President Obama should still release a copy of the birth certificate printed in 1961, to clear the air.
He could
BlueLandRed Wednesday, September 16th at 7:11PM EDT (link)but honestly, I think he’s enjoying the show the Birthers are putting on.
and politically enjoying it too.
naraht Thursday, September 17th at 3:07PM EDT (link)Obama’s dream in 2012 is that the Republican Nominee for President at least partially buys in to the Birther beliefs.
The only major likely candidate that I can imagine doing that is Palin. I just can’t see any of the other likely candidates doing so, especially Romney.
I just happen to think the more of the 2012 Campaign that talks about whether Obama is legally able to be president, the *worse* it is for the Republican Party.
This of course assumes that the Birthers can’t find anything more useful than they have so far.
Geez, read the Constitution
tankertodd Wednesday, September 16th at 6:42PM EDT (link)Obama’s the President. Done. End of story.
But not for long…
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Judge Clay Land is not my hero
Just_Saying Wednesday, September 16th at 7:34PM EDT (link)He had the opportunity to put the whole deal to rest. Instead, he dismissed it, like all the other cases have been dismissed. Without just cause.
Awful judicial decision.
.
So many of YOU don't get it
MF Wednesday, September 16th at 7:49PM EDT (link)As quoted directly from WND:
// The “certification of live birth” posted online and widely touted as “Obama’s birth certificate” does not prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same “short-form” document is obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true “long-form” birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny. //
It’s quite likely that Obama was born in Hawaii. But no legitimate proof has been provided. All most of us “birthers” ask is that he present the official long form. That document is what would be required for so many other things today, such obtaining a passport.
And why has Obama spent $1M to keep from providing this information? That’s the other part that bothers so many of us. What is he hiding that he’s willing to spend such a huge sum?
I’m sure someone will offer the opinion that no matter how much evidence is provided, some won’t believe it. That’s not true for the majority of us “birthers”.
John 8:32
“Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
Sorry
BlueLandRed Wednesday, September 16th at 9:08PM EDT (link)but the birth certificate that Obama placed online is prima facie evidence in ANY court proceeding. And as far as the State of Hawaii is concerned, Obama was born there, because that’s what it sez on his certificate. You might not like it, but that’s ALL Obama needs. Seriously. That’s game, set, and match.
But beyond that, Snopes has posted a great deal more proof, including a quote from the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health that he’s personally verified the long form and that Obama was born in Hawaii. Of course, this isn’t good enough for you… why??? I don’t know… maybe you need some of that free socialized medicine or something.
the question isn't where he was born
angiec Wednesday, September 16th at 8:36PM EDT (link)the question is whether he is a natural born citizen. Look at naturalborncitizen blog for some information. It appears that one requires to have 2 citizen parents to be a natural born citizen which, of course, he doesn’t.
unfortunely he does
Lord_Vegas Wednesday, September 16th at 8:46PM EDT (link)the little bast*rd.
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Nice satire
Neil Stevens Wednesday, September 16th at 9:31PM EDT (link)Yes, I agree that these people are loons, way to make fun of them so well by citing a website, rather than the law and the Constitution, to determine the legality of an election.
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I don't know this site and wnd seems too obsessed with it
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 9:48PM EDT (link)but, why is he hiding the info? I don’t know that he’s a Muslim or basically an illegal immigrant but I don’t know that he isn’t.
Despite my comments on this thread I don’t consider myself a birther. I just want some simple answers to simple questions that every one of us here could provide about ourselves.
I know that’s a minority position, at least for those who post comments, but it isn’t as crazy as it sounds. And I think a lot of other people have similar questions about the enigma-in-chief but start/prolong infighting by mentioning them.
...but *don't want to* start/prolong...
red_dawn Wednesday, September 16th at 9:49PM EDT (link)nt
Redstate is NOT obsessed with "birtherism".
mbecker908 Wednesday, September 16th at 10:38PM EDT (link)We just keep getting brain-dead, tinfoil hat wearing mutants like you showing up here puking this crap on our parlor floor.
Why don’t you take MF and go to a Ron Paul rally. Or go play in heavy traffic.
I can't.
seandparnell Thursday, September 17th at 9:59AM EDT (link)Provide my birth certificate, that is. Amongst my multiple moves during and right after college, it was lost. So all I have is something called a “Certificate of Live Birth” from the state of Oregon, since they don’t give out duplicate birth certificates.
Fortunately for me, the vast conspiracy put in motion to ensure illegal-immigrant Obama could be elected President without a *real* birth certificate has been in place since at least 1995, when I began using the CoLB to get my replacement Social Security card (lost that too), drivers license, etc. So I’ve been able to vote and do all sorts of great citizen-only things since then, thanks to the conspiracy making sure the CoLB and similar documents were acceptable.
So that now brings to two the number of things I have in common with our President (the other involves dating women from Punahou, the high school he went to).
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Streiff Thursday, September 17th at 10:09AM EDT (link)this story just brightened my entire day. I’m sure it did the same for others.
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
This rhetoric does nobody any good
gator_hoo Wednesday, September 16th at 9:18PM EDT (link)The absolute obsession with “all things birther” is really not helpful; with all of the attacks to individual liberty that are being proposed by the administration and congress, anti-birther columns seem to come up as much as any other topic. It’s unhealthy. The birthers are a side show, keep your eyes on the real threats.