Brian on MSNBC Talking ACORN

Leopard1996

Would have let Brian finish a point instead of anytime Brian was making the point of the links between ACORN and this administration and the PTBs right now, just did his best to shout him down.

My man has the patience of a saint. I think there would have been a few STFU’s coming out of my mouth toward him and the Huffingdunce.

NeoKong

because Brian just burned their house down.

Haliburton…..?
That was the best that Zsa Zsa could come up with ?
What was the other guys point ?
If we don’t stop crime everywhere first then we can’t go after ACORN…?

Leopard1996

That the libs had for the Iraq war. Until we have stopped the genocide in Rawanda, or caught Osama, we should not have gone into Iraq.

Always press to fight the war that we are not currently in, seems to be their motto.

http://www.thediscerningconservative.com discerningconservative

Brian was proving himself intellectually superior, and his only way to save face was to toss to Ms. Huffington to make him seem intelligent to his 5 viewers (assuming his mother, father and spouse were watching). Great job Brian!!

MacAoidh

…and even if MSNBC’s audience might be only slightly larger than Get Fit With Guido on the local cable access channel I can understand its utility as a vehicle to promote the site.

That said, he wasted his time. He’s on there talking about ACORN and whoever this host is uses his brief and accurate opening comment as a launchpad for a Marxist screed against banks and insurance companies without whom his overgenerous salary wouldn’t be possible. From there the segment devolves into further stupidity when Arianna Eurotrash begins spewing her own brand of sludge.

Brian clearly finds the spectacle painful, for which he cannot be blamed. I don’t begrudge him the appearance, but it’s difficult to defend that use of his time.

My only specific complaint is that Brian didn’t use the opportunity to demand an investigation into the misuse of federal monies on the part of the General Electric Company. I wonder if such a statement wouldn’t cause you and your Redstate colleagues to be removed from MSNBC’s list of acceptable guest personalities.

scoot1965

We need to stop all the corruption and crime going on inside our government, banks and corporations. If the taxpayers are getting the shaft from anyone, they need to be prosecuted to the fullest.

marshmom

when Mr. Hair Club For Men wouldn’t shut his pie hole for 5 seconds and let Brian make a point? How bout the fact that not only did Acorn defraud taxpayers, but also had no problem with illegal immigration or child prostitution??? Is that not also a valid concern?? Of course not!! Not to a “progressive”.

How bout the fact that Acorn received something to the tune of fifty million dollars in the past 15 years, but now that their Dear Leader is in charge of screwing up our country, the “stimulus” package awarded them 8 Billion (with a B!) dollars??????? That’s an awful large increase. Any concerns??? No, all I hear is crickets.

Jeff Weimer

ACORN has been caught in illegal acts, repeatedly over a long period of time.

Halliburton and the “Wall Street” entities haven’t (yet).

Halliburton is a transparent canard, and in this instance used to burn valuable time in the segment by Ariana – they’ve been doing business with the government since the Bill Clinton presidency. Anything and everything bad about them has been aired and dealt with. They have been remarkably above-board, and the only reason they have been brought up is Dick Cheney, who was once the CEO.

TARP and “bonuses”? I’m sorry, we brought that on ourselves, and you Ariana were one of the voices saying we had to “do something” RIGHT NOW. We handed them a pile of cash with almost no strings attached. There is no criminal statute we can prosecute, therefore it is not illegal We saw that here at REDSTATE, and raised the alarm a year ago.

God, I wish Brian could have been given enough time to explain that.

Raven

He couldn’t get his point across and was forced to fall back and agree with Miss Huffington person and her pet media boy.

In answer to their “Well, why not Haliburton, then?”
How about, “Haliburton is not a criminal organization. They haven’t been indicted, let alone found guilty, on any charges. They were fined for regulatory issues. You want to go after everyone like that, then feel free. We’re after the criminals first. ACORN is today’s ENRON. ACORN is today’s MCI. THAT’s why we’re after ACORN, specifically. We’re after the guys who have been indicted and found GUILTY of Numerous CRIMES in several different states. And that’s BEFORE the so-called ‘Stimulus’ gave them all that money.
“You go ahead and go after Haliburton and the VA and Welfare and Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid and let’s not forget Congress for defrauding the taxpayer. Maybe you’ll even get something done. In the meantime, we’re starting with the blatant lawbreakers. We’ll catch up with you when we’ve gotten these people jailed.”

Aaron Gardner

Brian would have gotten done with the first sentence of your reply and then had his mic cut, or the would have just talked over him. Pretty much exactly what happened.

blooch

“If the taxpayers are getting the shaft from anyone, they need to be prosecuted to the fullest.”

Lemme make a deal with you:

You get you a hot chick and go after the banks, Bonnie and Clyde style, and I’ll get me a hot chick and take down a Wal-Mart…for the people!

Achance

Halliburton has had allowability and allocabilty disputes with the US; every company or government that does business with the US (or any government) does. That is not the same as fraud and other criminal activity.

If you have a contract with the US and you bill them for something that they don’t want to pay, you appeal and duke it out, or you just accept their opinion that they don’t have to pay for it. Halliburton and every other big outfit that has done business with the US has been through this. It is a lot different from being charged with fraud or other crimes.

6eorge Jetson

Nah, nothing to worry about there.

E Pluribus Unum

Brian scores another win. That Ratigan idiot kept treating ACORN like a hot potato – every time the word came out, it was scream, rant, hog the mic.

Halliburton!

Look! Fuzzy bunnies!

6eorge Jetson

of GM & Chrysler debt-holders?

bcmoney82

Just another example of how the left is addicted to controlling what can and can’t be said.
If someone wants to devote energy towards pointing out ACORN crimes, that is their right! They do not have to pass some fairness test. The condescension is amazing. Who does this guy think he is to police freedom of expression?
What’s even more hypocritical is the host (don’t even know who he is) getting on his high horse and spouting that politics should not play a part when it comes to pointing out government defrauding taxpayers, and yet spends the whole show shouting about every target of the left that he could think of to overpower the ACORN issue.
If you want to spend all your time bringing attention to Halliburton, so be it. Nobody should be required to meet some arbitrary requirements in order to voice a concern.

scoot1965

When I say go after all the corruption, I mean all of it. Be it Obama or any other politician that is stealing from us taxpayers by using corporations or the banks to do it with. Why only go after Democrats when the Republicans are just as guilty?

Or, do you all just want another corrupt Republican in office when we kick this corrupt Fascist Democrat out? We’d be in the same boat as we’re in today.

MacAoidh

…so none of these villains are getting our tax dollars and are instead keeping more of their own money, and there will be nothing to investigate.

scoot1965

…all go after Goldman Sachs first? They are in bed with the Federal Reserve, stealing us blind. Believe me, I think the ACORN people deserve to be behind bars, but Goldman Sachs needs to have bars put up around their building for what they have been able to pull off with the Fed’s help, along with the politicians who are collecting some extra paychecks on the side.

scoot1965

95% of our elected officials are corrupt and need to be replaced.

6eorge Jetson

Because that’s…

MacAoidh

…it’s not that the politicians are corrupt. Of course they are. The real issue is that government is far too pervasive in our lives, has far too much power, impinges far too much on individual liberty and interferes far too much in our economic life. In any situation such as that you will have corruption.

MacAoidh

…if a conservative activist wishes to call attention to the abuses of ACORN, it makes those abuses no less scandalous if in fact some other entity is also guilty of crimes or misuse of public funds.

The MSNBC host’s attempt to change or broaden the subject is nothing more than moral equivalence and obfuscation. One wishes Brian would have drawn the line and declared his only interest in making that appearance was to discuss ACORN’s abuses and that he would refuse to participate in other accusations because they were not of interest to him at this time. He would have been well within his rights to take such a position.

redpens

on MSDNC can’t take it when a far-left criminal organization like ACORN is being exposed for what it is. So then he starts w/the Halliburton thing. If Halliburton committed a crime, OK. But ACORN is well known for their crimes. Halliburton hasn’t been put on trial.

nessa

Brian Faughnan

I wish I had thought to bring that up. Next time.

Brian Faughnan

This was exactly the problem. For better or worse, most of what Ratigan and Arianna were talking about is legal. You can oppose TARP, and the subsidies to corporations, unions, and others, but in Washington today they are both legal and unsurprising.

But with just a minute or so to speak, you face the choice of peeling the skin off that onion, or trying to focus on ACORN.

I chose the latter.

Brian Faughnan

Check out my response to Nessa above.

To my mind, Arianna and Ratigan would have been only too happy for me to use my one minute (or less) of talking time to get into a fight over Halliburton, et al. I had a choice of shouting over them, or not arguing their points and trying to focus back on ACORN. I judged that if I challenged them, then MSNBC’s viewers wouldn’t hear a thing about ACORN.

YMMV

http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

First they equated ACORN with Haliburton, a corporation that engaged in criminal activity and political shenanigans. The simple answer to that is vote out the bastages that supported Haliburton and the others named.

ACORN, on the other hand engages in criminal activity and interferes with the voting process that allows us to vote out the bastages. Supporting ACORN is like supporting the death of free and fair elections.

Yet, it’s all the same to people of Huffington’s ilk and then they rationalize it in the same way. Haliburton did this so… Bush did it so why can’t Obama? Same, same?

http://www.meetup.com/dcworksforus Kenny Solomon

Yep, they done did it and Senator Vitter went off…..

I can either go with my usual snark, or get incredibly and dangerously inciting, or both.

I’ll choose neither.

Like a certain detective once said, “Just the facts, ma’am.”?

http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/29/fema-grant-to-acorn-is-offensive

Earlier this month and despite the public scrutiny over the voter fraud and felony criminal activity associated with ACORN, the Department of Homeland Security went ahead and granted $997,402 to ACORN under the FY 2008 Fire Prevention and Safety Program.

To most people, the timing and the amount of the grant would seem off base, but when you take into account the fact that DHS awarded ACORN ? an organization with no clear expertise in fire safety and prevention ? a fire prevention and safety grant, it?s just plain offensive.

————–

I have two questions and that question is for senator Vitter:

Sir, you are in a position of actual power and influence.? Why in God’s name haven’t you been shouting this from the rooftops, or better yet, already brought charges against every single person in FEMA/DHS connected with this ‘transaction’ ?

Also, we’re in latter part of 2009 and monies from 2008 are still being disbursed ?

blooch

Ratigan: Everybody else is just green, have you seen the news?
It’s a helluva start, we could sting Halliburton
if we all pull together as a team.
And did we tell you the name of the game, Brian,
we call it Riding the Gravy Train.

Well I’ve always had a deep respect, and I mean that most sincerely.
The the sting was just fantastic, that is really what I think.
Oh by the way, can you bring Hannah?
I’ve got this pimp costume from last Halloween….

Huffington: Dylan, fronkly that is so sayxist. I could do the hooker part jost as gut as…

Ratigan: Frankly, Arianna, nobody likes an old whore. Brian, call me. Let’s do this.

bcmoney82

It’s the tired old argument of justifying bad behavior with bad behavior. The reason the left has to point out Halliburton, etc, is because the ACORN problems are an attack on one of their mascots. Sowell gives a great explanation of mascots and targets in Vision of the Anointed.
Not to say that the right is not guilty of this as well. The test of whether you are a corrupt ideologue or not is whether you take your medicine and fess up to the problems, or try to mask them by deflecting attention.

Andy W.

You want to know the best way to remove corruption in government when it concerns our tax dollars?

Give them less tax dollars.

Duh.

The amounts of money being talked about are mind boggling to anyone that doesn’t see $150k a year.

If it wasn’t there to be handed around, it wouldn’t be handed around.

AceInTX

and it?s easy to armchair quarterback?but they kept interrupting Brain and binging up Hiliburtan and the bank and insurance companies?and I?d have liked to have seen Brian respond by asking if they could point to any instances where Hiliburtan or any of the institutions they presented had actual convictions for wrong doing?and could they point to any instance where he or Red State condoned turning a blind eye to any of their corruption?

Leopard1996

Where do you find the time to do these pics. these are awesome.

Brian Faughnan

Not surprisingly, I was not aware before my appearance that the Obama White House apparently decided not to prosecute Halliburton. I mentioned it over here:

http://theconservatives.com/2009/09/30/theconservativescom-on-msnbc.html

Accountability is a cruel mistress.

Common_Cents

Ratigan was pretty good on the CNBC show for traders but his true colors are coming out on PMSBC.

I debate whether conservatives should even give these radical idiots on PMSBC any legitimacy by showing up or whether we take every opportunity to scalp a few converts. The problem is conservatives on those shows do not get a fair shake.

jupitersuite

Going Nuts

ACORN: Alien Children Offered Regularly Nationwide
ACORN: Authorities Caught One Registering ?Napoleon?
ACORN: Assembly of the Complacent: Organized, Registered & Non-productive!
ACORN: Association of Criminals Obama Represented in the Nineties
ACORN: Assorted Crazies, Oddballs, Reprobates, and Nincompoops
ACORN: ?Audacity? and ?Change? that Obama Represents Nationally
ACORN: A Crooked, Offensive, Repulsive Nut
ACORN: Agitators, Cheats, Offenders, and Repugnant Nonentities
ACORN: Association of Crooks O?Keefe Revealed in a Nanosecond
ACORN: Advising Criminals, Organizing Radical Nutjobs
ACORN: Assisting Call-girls, Obama, Reid & Nancy
ACORN: Advancing Collectivism, Obamamania, Reparations Now!
ACORN: After Clinton, Obama Retards a Nation
ACORN: Alike Carter, Obama is Regretful and Negative
ACORN: America, Could Obama Resign Now??
ACORN: Against Conservatives, Order, Republicans, and the Nation
ACORN: American Cash Outflows to Rathke?s ?Nonprofits?
ACORN: Apparently ?Community Organizing? Really is Nefarious
ACORN: Awarding Capital to Objectionable Rent-seeking Noncontributors
ACORN: Apathetic, Crybaby, Odiferous, Rejected Nothings
ACORN: Andrew Clearly Outplayed the Resentful NYT
ACORN: Anyone Can Observe that this is Rank Nonsense
ACORN: Ascent by Creepy Operation / Resented in the Nation
ACORN: Almost as Commendable as an Outflow of Rectal Necrosis
ACORN: Associated Congressmen Ought to be Replaced in November 2010
ACORN: Always Cheating, Often Ruining Neighborhoods
ACORN: Addled Crack-heads and Obnoxious Race-baiting Neurotics
ACORN: Appalling Cesspool; Obscene Revolting Nightmare
ACORN: A Clan of Odious, Ridiculed Nitwits
ACORN: Another Corrupt Obama Run Network

Others? Please suggest!

6eorge Jetson

I’ve built up a small photo album for “reruns” ever since I joined RedState a little less than a year ago.

Thanks

Leopard1996

Also for the Pic of the Punchout strawman round , the next round shoud show Mr. Reality knocking Obama out in one punch.

RS

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