I’ve finally realized something — the left really is without any standards. When Clinton got his Lewinsky, all of a sudden it was fine for powerful men to compel young women to get on their knees. With Polanski, it is not rape-rape. With Obama, we are unpatriotic if we show the Office of the President any more respect that its occupant shows it.
Put another way — had it been Barack Obama’s war and not George Bush’s war, the left would be all about winning in Iraq. They cannot fathom the right’s disenchantment with George Bush over TARP, Harriet Meirs, etc., because they have no such standards.
In the cult of personality that is the left, if the object of the cult’s adoration does something, the left embraces the act without reservation.
Below, several letters to RedState that reflect this lack of standards.
From: Joey Fredrick joey_emap@yahoo.com
Subject: red
Date: October 2, 2009 5:25:54 PM EDT
To: contact@redstate.comAre you proud to align yourself with the dumbest America has to offer? Really? Still Red after 8 years of total sh*t? I hope you choke you d**k bag. I still think we should split this country in half. You can have all the religious right f**kers, high unemployment, illiteracy, and zero earning potential. Then you can all dance around and count down the days til you get to be with god. Do us all a favor and go now! California is only broke because we’re constantly paying the bills for the Red states…f**kin’ rednecks.
I feel better and you are still the dumbest numbnut on earth…
Letter 2:
From: Doug Smith dsmith54@rocketmail.com
Subject: Olympic bid
Date: October 2, 2009 5:31:36 PM EDT
To: contact@redstate.comEric Erickson,
Go screw yourself, you worthless S.O.B. You and your kind really showed who is anti-American on this topic.
Letter 3:
From: Dean Langadas dean@qualitymba.com
Subject: Your Olympic Moment
Date: October 2, 2009 5:17:39 PM EDT
To: contact@redstate.comErick:
Your comment regarding the President and the IOC’s choice not to bring the Olympics to Chicago was irrelevant, meaningless, mean spirited and stupid.
I am sure you have many moronic fans, but a majority of Americans are clear thinking, and would find you laughable if the kind of venom you spit wasn’t so hateful.
Got anything positive to contribute to America, other than noise?
Dean Langadas
Tucson, AZ
Letter 4:
From: Nikki Segall nfsegall@comcast.net
Subject:
Date: October 2, 2009 1:54:12 PM EDT
To: contact@redstate.comYou are UnAmerican a**holes
What is wrong with all of you.
Wah, wah wah
You lost an election
Get over it and start sounding like you love your country or get out.

There's meds for anger management
peg_c Saturday, October 3rd at 8:19AM EDT (link)These people could use some - or they’re not taking what’s been prescribed.
I guess this is what happens when the bloom comes off the rose so soon after victory…heh.
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
Ok so let's split the country the idiots elite leftist's...
JadedByPolitics Saturday, October 3rd at 8:20AM EDT (link)can have the coast and the hardworking Conservative American’s can have flyover and the south. Here is what I know about that split, it will take only one 4 year term for their Congress & President before they are BEGGING to become one again because their cities and states are dying under the weight of “shared” responsibility. I guess that particular tool doesn’t recognize that the states that are weathering this economic downturn the BEST would be REDSTATES! I really despise that the public schools and universities send out idiots such as these into the real world without any actual financial history or just some REAL history lessons.
I believe people like those who email you are just an example of a failed leftist ideology that is instilled in them from the public school systems and if we want to ever STAMP OUT that ideology we have to reclaim the school system first.
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IJB Saturday, October 3rd at 4:09PM EDT (link)These are always such a riot
bk Saturday, October 3rd at 8:25AM EDT (link)“California is only broke because we’re constantly paying the bills for the Red states…f**kin’ rednecks.”
This from someone who must believe anyone from Mexico or anywhere else should be able to come here and get free education, free health care, etc.
“You and your kind really showed who is anti-American on this topic.”
But the Olympics is for the world, and look how much poverty there is in Brazil (unless you have connections to Lula). Shouldn’t we be celebrating that this will lift the economy of a poor city of 6M people?
“Got anything positive to contribute to America, other than noise?”
This from the side who spent 8 years under BDS, contributing nothing except speeches about Bush being a loser, a traitor, a terrorist, etc.
“Get over it and start sounding like you love your country or get out.”
These were the folks who were going to leave the country if Bush got re-elected and see no problem with Obama’s apology tours about what a horrible country we had until January 2009.
5, bk, that was the comment that made me spit coffee.
janis Saturday, October 3rd at 8:46AM EDT (link)California’s only broke because they’re paying Tennessee’s bills? Indeed.
Wow, this is the level of hatred we get because Chicago didn’t get the Olympics, yet if we lose Afghanistan and see Iraq devolve into chaos, that’s just fine with them. Gotta love their sense of priorities.
Too bad all the state fairs are over with. We could enter Michelle and Barry in a “Cutest Couple” competition and watch the left really explode when they lose that, too.
What a minute
Richard Mullins Saturday, October 3rd at 8:51AM EDT (link)the State Fair of Texas hasn’t even begun. It’s held in Dallas every year in October so we can enter them in the contest. Also, as for California paying the stronger economic states like Texas’ bills, we know that’s not even close to true unless you live in a parallel universe.
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Raven Saturday, October 3rd at 11:43AM EDT (link)THAT has to be the real one!
“Unlike cruel liberty that requires you to stand and take responsibility for your choices, kind tyranny requires only that you kneel and surrender your choices.”
I disagree. The left does indeed have standards
RedBeard Saturday, October 3rd at 8:26AM EDT (link)They hold firm to the unwavering principle of situational ethics. Here are a few of the leftie “rules” currently in effect:
“That was then, this is now.
Our guy won, so screw you. Bow down.
Mandate wind farms, except where I can see them.
Rape and sodomy are not rape and sodomy when a leftie icon does them.
Posters showing George Bush as the Joker are high art, but ones showing Obama as the Joker are RA-A-A-A-CIST.”
Not fair. Lefties have it SO easy in following their iron-clad moral standards.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Excellent RedBeard, you're right, they do have "standards"
penguin2 Saturday, October 3rd at 8:39AM EDT (link)Just call them abnormal ones.
And I’m with Jaded up above. Would love to split the country and give us our half. I also would want to make sure that we had laws in place to keep them out.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
I smell fear in those letters.
ocleverone Saturday, October 3rd at 8:49AM EDT (link)Fear that the hope and change they bought into is nothing more than vapor.
I am smiling from ear to ear.
As far as I am concerned, let them rant. Let them think that we are knuckle draggers and morons. Let them insult, it makes them complacent.
Message to the left…we’re coming in 2010…hide and watch.
To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it. — Margaret Thatcher
Ace has the definitive post on this.
Socrates Saturday, October 3rd at 9:14AM EDT (link)Ace of Spades HQ is like Redstate, but without any language standards or intent to engage in serious action. And it’s run by a bunch of net addicts, so they’re always on.
As a result, they often get it right. Again, they swear there. A lot. But this post is really amazing. Read te whole thing.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
I read that last night, Socrates, and thought that Ace
janis Saturday, October 3rd at 9:26AM EDT (link)nailed it six ways from Sunday. That was a profoundly satisfying post from him! His comments that Obama’s followers have a crush on Obama, and we are sick and tired of hearing about it, could not have rung more true. That and the next conclusion as well: Not only are we sick of hearing about it, but we are completely fed up with his acolytes’ drooling devotion and now hate them as well as the object of their uncritical adoration.
Re-read letter #1 from Joey, I think it really came
throwback59 Saturday, October 3rd at 9:25AM EDT (link)from Bill Mahr.
It’s amazing that the left has discoverd “Patriotism.” Of course, they define it as “always supporting Obama.”
To quote Malkin
WarEagle01 Saturday, October 3rd at 9:31AM EDT (link)“What do [these people] have against people of color in a developing nation on a continent that has never hosted the Olympics?”
I guess the only sensible answer is: they’re racists.
I suppose that shouldn’t surprise me considering these people do come from the party of Bull Connor. Democrats did, after all, create the Ku Klux Klan, Black Codes, and Segregation.
Poor silly Kluckers.
“A wise, doughy leg with rich tingly experiences will always reach better conclusions than will a more tanned, muscular leg that hasn’t felt those thrills.” –Chris Matthews’ Leg
Lest we forget Robert KKK Byrd
jeffreywturner Saturday, October 3rd at 11:33AM EDT (link)Correct me if I am wrong, but Robert KKK Byrd is still the President Pro Tempore of the Senate right? In other words third in the line of succession to be President?
And which party was it again, that was the pro-slavery party?
And which party was it again, that filibustered AGAINST the Civil Rights Act & Voting Rights Act?
Just checking.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
To the letter from Miss Nikki
Leopard1996 Saturday, October 3rd at 9:32AM EDT (link)Yeah, we should get over a lost election, kinda like how you “Got over” the Bush election both times (Bush stole FL., Folks in Cleveland got disenfranchised, Diebold machines were set to give votes to Bush). Well, sorry, I am not going to get over ACORN having fraudulent voter registration. I am not going to get over the dough from unexplained sources that flowed into the Bambi campaign, and I am definitely not going to get over the fact that you use this election to be my parent. I have two parents, I don’t need one who wouldn’t know me from from a number on a spreadsheet.
“The accumluated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, “Save Us!”….and I’ll look down and whisper, “No”…The Watchmen
Not only wouldn't "know you from a number on a spreadsheet", but
janis Saturday, October 3rd at 10:07AM EDT (link)would be more than happy to see dead so they could allocate your resources to someone more deserving. Some parent!
Exactly
wennejunk Saturday, October 3rd at 9:33AM EDT (link)When I hear folks complain about the left and double standards it amazes me that many on the right really do not understand this. Certainly most of the GOP leadership doesn’t understand it either: There are two completely different cultural and moral frameworks involved.
The Conservative side has a concrete rule structure, which, when our members break one or more of the rules, they are subject to punitive action. Most of the time. There are failures at times, of course, to correct an issue altogether while at other times (all too often) the punishment exceeds the crime. However, at root, there is a well known set of standards and a process for enforcing them.
The Left delights in roasting us over failures because a) we have rules which we follow, making it more difficult to win (i.e. we are stupid in their eyes) and b) we’re not perfect in following those rules, thus making ourselves hypocrites in their eyes.
The Left’s only rule structure is Machiavellian in nature; anything goes as long as it leads to their desired outcome; anyone’s personal ethics/behavior are acceptable to the extent they do not damage the cause. This is the practical outcome of relativistic thinking.
If a politician/entertainer (of any stripe) is seen as useful to the left’s cause then their personal conduct/activities are of no import - until those activities create a political liability and then they are jettisoned (or more likely simply moved to a less visible - but still effective- role in the shadows.)
Those who are caught are usually cheered and admired, much as a high school prankster is cheered when suspended for his/her daring activities. When they are not cheered, it is because they damaged the cause and not because their behavior was reprehensible or violated any kind of moral code or standard.
Examples:
The prankster slashes the Principle’s tires or key’s the paint: Good. He’s a hero.
The prankster gets caught selling the test answer key the other students were counting on to pass the test and they all fail Bad, he’s a loser.
There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, ‘Thy will be done,’ and those to whom God says, in the end, ‘Thy will be done.’ -C. S. Lewis
The Hate flows from exposure
jimmuy8 Saturday, October 3rd at 9:39AM EDT (link)Obama’s whole reason for being was that he wins. Only by shifting from victory to victory (no matter how phony, fraudulent or manufactured) was he able to build up to and finally win the Presidency.
And you could sense that throughout the primaries–he had to win, not because he needed the votes, it was to keep the aura of “winner” unblemished. Every win by Clinton didn’t matter ’cause he won something else at the same time (and it didn’t matter that he was getting beat in all the states he couldn’t rig–he won.)
Now that the Won is losing, it’s all falling apart and they, love-sick fanboy, are lashing out in anger.
That is too funny.
NeoKong Saturday, October 3rd at 9:40AM EDT (link)Don’t you just love the irony of a leftie telling you what a hateful person you are by calling you every name in the book.
It’s like being called a bum by some homeless wino.
The opinion of a wise whitino male.
They aren't used to pulling for America
Jack_Savage Saturday, October 3rd at 10:03AM EDT (link)I mean, it’s only been since January 20th. Hopefully they will mature with time.
Naaah. They’re not pulling for America, just their messiah. Get the mailbag ready.
Erick needs one that's lined with asbestos.
janis Saturday, October 3rd at 10:13AM EDT (link)The longer this losing streak continues, the more rabid these weasels will become.
Disclaimer: I don’t hate real weasels.
I do
Raven Saturday, October 3rd at 11:55AM EDT (link)I hate everything about them except their pelts. They have nice pelts. Especially in the winter. I wonder if I’ll get the chance to go weasel hunting while I’m in Alaska…
“Unlike cruel liberty that requires you to stand and take responsibility for your choices, kind tyranny requires only that you kneel and surrender your choices.”
I'm fairly certain that the other kind of weasel doesn't have a nice pelt, Raven.
janis Saturday, October 3rd at 12:02PM EDT (link)But, hey, if you want to hunt them down, who am I to quibble?
Wow!
pauly1620 Saturday, October 3rd at 10:06AM EDT (link)Get over it and start sounding like you love your country or get out.
The irony and hypocrisy are utterly amazing. Less surprisingly, they probably have no clue what I am talking about.
Here’s an idea: instead of turning America into Europe, leave us alone and move there! If you truly love your country, you’d leave.
If you’re incompetent you have to be honest, and if you’re crooked you have to be clever.
“The Rule of the City” ~Sir Desmond Glazebrook
I'm kinda surprised to read that, Erick.
Vladimir Saturday, October 3rd at 10:16AM EDT (link)“I’ve finally realized something — the left really is without any standards.”
The degree to which standards and judgment have been sapped from our culture over the last 40 years is staggering, and if it’s not corrected it will be our undoing.
The ultimate worst thing in the world to be is a “hypocrite” - someone who espouses standards, then fails to live up to them.
Much better to be an amoral jellyfish from the get-go, such as half of the leading Democrats in Congress or 98% of high-profile celebrities.
There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted. - Arthur Schopenhauer
That was my first thought.
deadreckoning Saturday, October 3rd at 11:28AM EDT (link)I figured Erick would have discovered that a while ago.
I’ve only become politically engaged in the last 6 - 8 years but realized years ago the hypocisy of the left after debating with liberals and similarly minded people. I was quite naive and believed I could win most any argument by logical persuasion. How silly of me to believe that I could use facts and logic to make my point. I was always amazed that these people could change the subject on a dime and use imaginary claims to support their positions.
Of course, when all else failed to deter my argument, they would call me names, accuse me of ignorance and begin the name calling. This pattern is probably the only standard that liberals have.
Debating the left is like trying to push a rope.
TNJim Saturday, October 3rd at 12:31PM EDT (link)I’ve noticed the same thing. No matter what hard evidence you have to back up your arguments most of them are so adamant to make you look like the fool that, when all else fails, then the name-calling ensues. Which, of course, then that maks them look the fool but sadly they think they just scored major points by making slurs against your ancestry and personal habits. They really think that giving you a good cussin’ wins the argument, as the letters Erick has posted shows. God forbid you ask them to dial it back and try to continue the discussion without the vitriol.
That’s not all of them but sadly it does describe most that I’ve encountered.
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Achance Sunday, October 4th at 1:55PM EDT (link)Ask most any public school teacher if you don’t believe me.
In Vino Veritas
For a group that won the last two elections
andysmith Saturday, October 3rd at 10:38AM EDT (link)they sure are angry….and full of fear. Why is that?
“Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ”
“Government’s first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. ”
“Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them.”
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Probably because *they* didn't win them.
Moe Lane Saturday, October 3rd at 11:37AM EDT (link)*We* lost them.
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That last one is my favorite...
realityunwound Saturday, October 3rd at 10:56AM EDT (link)because it seems I remember refrains of that same sentiment for the past 8 years being met with screeches of how patriotic it was to debate and disagree with any administration.
I’m increasingly coming away with how incredibly short a view of history the left has.
“I know, let’s try socialism. I don’t think anyone’s even done that before. What could go wrong?”
http://www.realityunwound.com
What do you think?
Broomy Saturday, October 3rd at 11:04AM EDT (link)The letters that you posted talk about Un-American and get over losing the election…kind of sounds like the Left during W’s terms in office don’t you think?
Congratulations Rio…Epic Fail Chicago.
Sad
jjrakman Saturday, October 3rd at 1:55PM EDT (link)Expletives are the sign of an ignorant mind struggling to express itself.
http://www.cafepress.com/PalinReagan
Gotta love those open minded tolerant people on the left. nt
Common_Cents Saturday, October 3rd at 2:00PM EDT (link)“Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.” Napoleon - Well, unless he is ruining your country! Common Cents
A cult of personality arises when a country’s leader uses mass media to create a heroic public image, often through unquestioning flattery and praise.[1] Cults of personality are often found in dictatorships.
The bigger loser in this was the media
katesmith Saturday, October 3rd at 3:11PM EDT (link)National commentators have mentioned this and I agree. The larger danger is the US media. Obama is almost entirely their creation. Perhaps he believed what they built him up to be and hence misjudged his ability by setting up a White House Olympic office and the rest of it. When I was much younger, I would take the NY Times list of endorsements into a voting booth and pull the lever for whatever name they gave. I thought I was hip and smart to do so. Even this talking point about whether it’s mean to be happy Obama failed is a leftist creation-I read it in Newsweek.
Liberals spreading love and peace
jeannieology Saturday, October 3rd at 6:11PM EDT (link)When they call someone an Ahole do they mean Amnesty…what?
http://www.jeannie-ology.com
Thanks Erick
usrbinperl Saturday, October 3rd at 6:28PM EDT (link)For posting the email addresses.
These guys are now signed up for every NAMBLA mailing list in existance.
Enjoy, scumbags.
Leftists using words like "unpatroitic"
VinceP1974 Saturday, October 3rd at 6:54PM EDT (link)I think it’s hysterical when Leftists use words like unpatriotic or Un-American to describe right-wingers who are misbehaving.
Its like the words dont fit the speaker.. there is no credibility
Its like a little boy trying on his dad’s jockstrap and thinking he is filling it out.
Erick, more evidence you're doing good.
asleep06 Saturday, October 3rd at 10:44PM EDT (link)Keep it up!
Small is beautiful.
No time to read the above comments
Warrior Sunday, October 4th at 1:49PM EDT (link)so if I repeat, please forgive.
First, to Joey. For every agnostic or atheist who has made a significant contribution to humanity, I’ll cite you ten who are (were) Christian. Also, CA is broke because of confiscatory taxes and a crushing regulatory climate, not to mention enviro-whacko induced short-sightedness on energy development (CA buys much of its’ energy from us rednecks.)
Second, to Doug. We probably lost the Olymoic bid due to Obambi’s foolish and dangerous slight of Poland. Who exactly is un-American again?
Third, to Dean. Name ten positive contributions made to this country by Dems in the last ten years.
Four, to Nikki. “Get over it and start sounding like you love your country or get out.” Now where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, when you leftist clowns pulled your initially strong support for the war in Iraq and turned your back on our troopers so you could bash Bush and curry some short-term political gain. When we told you to “love it or leave it” you called us fascists and claimed that spirited debate was the soul of democracy.
Get a life, will ‘ya?
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