the Catholic Church actually tells the men that women can not speak at church or sing. You didn’t hear the Pope actually put out a fatwah against the women infidels that dare argue with their husbands or appear out in public without the escort of a male. Just utter bigotry coming from the Catholic church these days.

I know it is here somewhere…

First of I think you have a warped view of equality. Equality does not mean we all get to be pro football players or be beautiful women. Does the Bible set roles for Man and Woman? Why yes it does. Does it say one is better than the other or worth more than the other? Nope.

And I think you entirely missed the flip side of Paul’s message. For the man to act as Christ then he must lay down his whole self to serve his wife and family as Christ laid down his life for the church. This relationship model only works when Christ is in the mix and that is the context you are missing.

I can go on and on about chapter 14 but I do not want to start a religious debate.

are not used as the rule of law today. What western religions can make a claim on is the fact that, unlike Sharia, western religions now promote freedom and equality.

instances, that you don’t apparently understand beyond using them as proof texts, and claiming a major tu quoque victory.

All you’ve succeeded in doing is demonstrating your own profound ignorance.

Are you seriously contending that Catholics or Orthodox restricting their priesthood and deaconate to men, or for that matter the Armed Forces restricting women from being assigned to the combat arms, is somehow equivalent of making a woman’s testimony worth less than a man or governing a woman’s inheritance, or requiring the use of the hijab, or not allowing women to drive, or limiting the education of women?

The ordination of female/gay/lesbian/transgender/agnostic priests and bishops seems to be going just fine for the mainstream protestant denominations. Not. But going there would be tantamount to a threadjack. The subject is Sharia Law.

The bible passages you cite (out of context) have manifested in Western Culture via men living and dying, willingly and bravely, in the defense, security, and protection of women - not just their wives and daughters, but women..

Sharia Law, OTOH, no so much. See OP for reference.

I would appreciate it if you would reply to someone speaking to you rather than cowardly putting your having to have the last word elsewhere. BTW, we like our Bishops and Priests to be men and our nuns to be women, but of course to you you only see division and groups. Thats how a liberal and statist thinks.

No female priests in one denomination of many out of Christianity! The horror! (Esp. when you consider that there are several women among the canonized saints in the Catholic church.) Meanwhile, Iran’s religious police are hard at work stoning gays and drowning women who won’t “submit”–same difference, right?