How many more soldiers will needlessly die before Obama makes up his mind on Afghan strategy.
President Obama’s announced decision this week to remain undecided on new troops in Afghanistan for weeks, or even months, rejects his top commander’s determination that without urgent reinforcements the war may be lost.
At yesterday’s White House press briefing, presidential spokesman Robert Gibbs reconfirmed that President Obama had not decided when a decision on a possible troop surge for Afghanistan would be reached. At issue was the forthcoming runoff election in which incumbent Hamid Karzai will compete again, after an earlier polling was apparently tainted by voting fraud.
“The UN, NATO, the US stand ready to assist the Afghans in conducting the second round,” Gibbs said. He added, “Whether or not the president makes a decision before that I don’t think has been determined.
John Kerry Whispering Advice into Karzai's Ear
Ausonius Wednesday, October 21st at 4:32PM EDT (link)That was the picture on the front page of today’s Wall Street Journal.
To have Scary Kerry whispering in your ear: Halloween is close, is it not?
MAObama wants nothing to do with victory - as he said so - or even containment: the goal is to empower the downtrodden against the evil racist imperialist Americans.
The strategy is to do nothing for as long as possible, and then declare the War On Terror over: it becomes an international police problem then, a la Clinton.
Except that MAObama will do even less than Clinton.
what was the advice?
kyle8 Wednesday, October 21st at 4:34PM EDT (link)Betray your country, Marry an airhead heiress, and become a huge expensive tool?
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
This is no longer a war to defeat terrorism,
billg Wednesday, October 21st at 4:54PM EDT (link)this is now a POLITICAL ACTION and the POLITICIANS in CHARGE have no willingness or desire to WIN. THEREFORE, NOT ANOTHER DROP OF OUR PRECIOUS MILITARY MEMBERS’ BLOOD OR INTELLIGENT OFFICERS’ BLOOD SHOULD BE SHED IN THAT GOD FORSAKEN LAND! Our troops and intelligence folks need to come home. THE USA CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO BORROW MONEY FROM THE CHINESE OR OTHERS to finance a war which there is no political will nor desire to wink! We have larger and more important issues to tackle at home in the USA. The first of which is to restore the role of the Constitution as the governing document in this land and some “czar removal” and “red cleaning” in our governments! God Bless the USA.
Bring our military and intelligence forces home to the good ole USA. We need them here and now to remove the communists which have infiltrated our Federal government.
Carter
Thomas_Hauber Wednesday, October 21st at 4:58PM EDT (link)Obama appears to be more and more like Carter every day.
God help us.
what an awful thing to say
kyle8 Wednesday, October 21st at 5:06PM EDT (link)but I am not disagreeing, it is just awful. Carter is certainly the most worthless American leader ever.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Carter did indeed suck
BlueLandRed Wednesday, October 21st at 5:14PM EDT (link)but to say he was the worst ever is hard to take when he’s competing with candidates like James Buchanan allowed the country to side into a Civil War and the infamous Millard Fillmore.
How about we just say that Carter was the worst President of the 20th Century?
oh I stand by that
kyle8 Wednesday, October 21st at 5:22PM EDT (link)Thing is, Millard Fillmore and James Buchanan are far enough removed that we can only base our views on what historians have written and old records taken out of their milieu.
But Carter, I can be sure of. His unique blend of radical politics, scolding puritanical attitude, narcissistic insistence on his own certitude, traitorous adulation of all left wing dictators and revolting anti-semitism are fresh in my mind.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Carter outdoes Buchanan in suckitude.
Third Street Wednesday, October 21st at 5:23PM EDT (link)Buchanan, one of the most worthless, ineffectual, incompetent leaders we ever had, just sat there as the Union dissolved and did nothing, that’s true. But at least he sat and did nothing because he considered himself constrained against taking action by the limits of his constitutional authority. There hasn’t been a Democrat in the last century who worried in the slightest about such things.
Plus, Jews didn’t fall over dead everywhere Buchanan went, so he had that over the other Jimmeh, too.
Well
BlueLandRed Wednesday, October 21st at 6:29PM EDT (link)Given the over all cost of the war and in hindsight, I’m not so sure that Bachanan’s strict interpretation of the Constitution should continued to be seen as a positive.
That has the makings of a great post Third Street!
nessa Wednesday, October 21st at 6:32PM EDT (link)Formalize the criteria for “Suckitude” and rate them all.
What I wouldn’t give for an ineffectual, incompetent leader again.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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Oh, You Forgot Your Guy Lyndon Johnson!
IJB Wednesday, October 21st at 11:37PM EDT (link)He was every bit as bad as Carter.
Filmore is not in the same league as the others.
Rush to"Stimulus", Health Care Reform"
johnt Wednesday, October 21st at 5:11PM EDT (link)Cap & Trade, power, domestic control, crush perceivrd enimies & annoying free speech. War, national defense, America’s ultimate safety, that can wait, and wait, until we slither out of there.
Trouble is, the terrorists will follow us. But liberal intellects don’t think that far ahead, if they think about it at all.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
Krauthammer summed it up pretty well
bk Wednesday, October 21st at 5:18PM EDT (link)You're asking the wrong question
anotherindyfilmguy Wednesday, October 21st at 5:54PM EDT (link)on the basis the “O” has any intention whatsoever of winning that, or any war…
Maybe the right question is:
“How many Troops have to die before the O blames Bush for leaving him with an ‘non-winnable’ situation and pulling out of Afghanistan?”
or maybe:
“How many Troops have to die before the O decides ‘America is humiliated enough” and declares the war over and pulls out?”
or maybe:
“How many ‘right wing voters’ can be taken out by not reinforcing them properly?”
Just a few thoughts…
Decided not to decide?
Socrates Wednesday, October 21st at 6:03PM EDT (link)Meaning that he didn’t decide anything.
That fellow was not the slightest bit ready to be President.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
Of course Obama's going to send the troops in.
Xasteius Wednesday, October 21st at 7:03PM EDT (link)Unfortunately, they’ll probably end up in front of Fox News headquarters.
Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
When I grow up, I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be Art Chance.
~Aaron Gardner
It's time for Generals McCrystal and Petraeus to......
DavidS1787 Wednesday, October 21st at 9:18PM EDT (link)leave this mess to Obama and retire………. They don’t need Obama’s indecisivenes…….
After all Obama Emanuel, Axelrod and Biden think they are the best generals ,so let them go to Afghanistan and fight .
Erick: You ought to put up a ticker with a message and how many
DavidS1787 Wednesday, October 21st at 9:26PM EDT (link)many more soldiers will die needlessly. Also put how many days it has been since Obama received the McChrystal Report and make sure it is self updated until Obama Responds.
Since the delivery of Gen. McChrystal's report, 70 Americans have died during the dithering.
ColdWarrior Thursday, October 22nd at 12:26AM EDT (link)Here’s a good blog with a good chronology. Says the General’s report was delivered to Obama on August 31, 2009.
http://www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/frugal-cafe-blogzone/2009/10/05/bluntness-speaking-plainly-speech-on-afghanistan-from-gen-mcchrystal-angers-obama-white-house/
This site has casualty figures for the coalition forces. It says the U.S. has suffered 40 fatalities in September and 30 so far in October. So, 70 Americans have died in Afghanistan during Teleprompter Boy’s dithering.
http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/ByMonth.aspx
Here’s what Wikipedia says about icasualties.org:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICasualties.org
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Here is a story to listen to........
DavidS1787 Wednesday, October 21st at 11:40PM EDT (link)This General is brave for giving his own comments...
DavidS1787 Thursday, October 22nd at 8:46PM EDT (link)because any General I remember that voiced an opinion was disciplined in some way publicly or in private.