I expected better of Cantor. Thought he was a real up and comer. But, it turns out he’s just a House version of Grahamnesty.

The whole lot of them are idiots. How small they all seem compared to the likes of MIke Pence and Michelle Bachmann, or Jim DeMint over in the Senate. They scurry around like rats doing their job for the party - but to hell with America. Maybe Obama was right today when he said that Republicans just do what they are told. All they have to do is stand and fight, and land just one punch. Then they will never be men - then they will be free.

like Pavlov’s dogs responded to a ringing bell, but it won’t help them because they will fall with the rest of the shills. The real independent thinkers will make sure of that.

but, house cleaning (pun intended) has to be on the top of the list.

All the others are so predictable, especially Gingrich. He lost me after the Colin Powell debacle.

Love how your brain works, Erick

are concerned about conservative ascendancy? Conservative’s taking hold of the party organization. Pure speculation on my part since I have nothing to prove it. But looking at the campaign’s of Rubio, Hoffman, Toomey etc. I feel that just might be the case.

See…

This is what is needed… SIMPLE easy to follow reason, that helps over-intelligent people to see the subtle differences between lofty rhetoric and handshaking… and ‘Get the job done or you’re out you stupid jackass!”… or if you want to be nicer… “throw the bums out”…

Equivocate and die, or Do the job you were sent to do.

The GOP Establishment and everyone tied to it, DOES shake every time Rush or Beck or Hannity open their mouths. Every Single Time.

But the Conservatives don’t.
All we need now is a single Conservative with some leadership skills. A single Conservative to take charge and lead a coup of the GOP. If that can be arranged by June, I think we can really crash the party next November.

You couldn’t pick a more despicable outfit than (cough! cough!) politico. That said, the white house campaign highlights the truth of the matter: without our alternate media the GOP would be an empty tent right now. And the white house and politico know it. Keep it up, Barack, we are going to beat y’all pinkos like a pimp-lovin ho.

Are they so bad they deserve to be mentioned twice?

The way to get good leadership is to win elections with good conservative candidates. I just don’t understand how we do that by continuing to attack the GOP establishment. It’s getting old, at least for me.

I want to read more about the elections coming up in two weeks and less paranoid and frustrated posts regarding internecine conservative power struggles.

Less tea and crumpets. Less chicken and egg. Less wine and cheese. More cowbell.

But I’m just a useless idiot. Carry on.

Is that the NRCC and NRSC are trying to act in what they think is a pragmatic manner when what is most pragmatic today is to present clear and Conservative leadership. We throw our weight behind the likes of Hoffman, Toomey, Rubio, and yes, even Palin (I know she’s a lightning rod but I do believe in her so that’s it and let’s not get OT here), while the DC GOP “leadership” is staring in disbelief. They think that the inmates have escaped and are now running the asylum. A position is conferred upon leaders. It is not an end in and of itself, and I’m glad we’re here to remind them of that.

It makes sense, really. The current GOP leadership was part of the problem that put the GOP in the wilderness. Of course they are not part of the solution. They need to be stiffened or ejected. They are collectively part of the problem. Make no mistake that returning the GOP to the majority as it exists today would mean deficit spending for GOP priorities instead of Democratic ones. Instead of my grandchildren being put in hock for socialist giveaways they’ll be put in hock for Big Oil or Big Aggie or Big Defense giveaways. Same stuff, different day.

The Democrats should not be independent thinkers, they should be listening to their masters just as the Republicans should be.

However the master is not the party, the master is US!

Republicans should not fear the GOP, they should fear the ones who voted them in. What I would like to see is a bunch of true conservatives, already in office, who ran as Republicans because it was “close enough” and mainstream.

These true conservatives need to throw off the Republican name and run as Conservative party candidates rather than Incumbent Republicans. Let the GOP put that in their pipe and smoke it.

Maybe what we need is a party within a party. A Conservative Caucus if you will within the Republican party. We could elect officers, and be dedicated to supporting only conservatives in the primaries, and then either supporting or withholding support in the general elections.

That would be a clearing house for all donations. the money could go to the new caucus and not the RNC. In other words, by pass them completely.

I am not sure how you could manipulate the campaign finance laws but I believe that a candidate can represent more than one party.

I think it will take a few prominent republicans to begin something lie this.

A good number (not the majority) of the GOP view the conservative establishment as a joke. This comes from my college experience a few years ago working for the college Republicans. There were so many moderate leaders in that group trying to appeal to the conservative base it made me sick, and this was in a Midwestern state known for it’s corn and pork. They and the candidates the repubs have been running lately are the reason why I don’t identify myself as a Republican anymore – I am a conservative! IMO the GOP can go bugger off until they grow a pair and decide to establish a nationwide conservative movement. I don’t think they’ll do it – I think we’ll have to do it for them.

Dear Mr. Erickson:

I have been a Republican for my whole life. I have also been a conservative. Here in NY we are a vanishing species. I too have been frustrated with the NY elite picking RINOs and DIABLs for these special elections. I chose to work within the party to pull it further to the right and to have priniciples and ideas to run on.

There is no other way. There is no such thing as a Dem conservative. Look at Sen Gillibrand. She was elected to the House by pretending to be conservative. She is not and is showing her true colors now. Third Partys do not work. Conservativism is a movement, the GOP is its vehicle. We must work to make the GOP true to its roots.

However, in NY-23 the Conservative party and the GOP rank and file refused to accept the designation of Dede and are backing and working for Hoffman. There is nothing worng with that. If circumstances were different, we would be working for Hoffman in a primary. Since this is a special election, we must take this route.

Please note this basic history lesson. I am sure that if you think about it, you will see its true. The GOP was formed from the remnants of the Federalist Party and Whig Party. The Federalists were free-market types, rich and elite. They were social conservatives only as far as agreeing with America’s class structure. They were antislavery. They opposed Jefferson’s Democratic Republicans who maskeraded as a party of the people while they enforced a plantation system on the areas they controlled. They too were elites. But unlike the Federalists, there were against free markets.

Eventually, the Federalists ceased to be a politcal party. Out of the craziness of the Jackson Administration, the Whig Party was born. Henry Clay was a self-made man. He rose to prominence by advocating that everyone could rise above his station and be a success. Whigs beleived in freedom, The gov’t, state or federal should not hold a man back. Whigs beleived in free enterprise and the right of a person to better himself. The remenants of the elite Federalists were wary of the Whigs but hated the slaveholding Democrats that extended their plantation system to the big cities where the recent immigrants were made to work for the party boses. And thus the big city political machine was born. A person was allowed to advance only if his boss let him.

The whigs were antislavery but not abolitionists. The Federalist elite had become moralistic abolitionists. Eventually, the Whigs collapsed as a party.

In the 1850s, the Federalist elite, free market abolitionists and the self-made, freedom loving, individualistic Whigs merged in oppositon to the Dems who were extending their plantatiion and planned economy system to the Southwest and West.

Ever since then, the GOP is internally divided by the Federalist elites who believe that they know better than everyone else and that they shoudl run the party and the self-made econimic freedom loving Whigs who believe that gov’t should not get in the way of a person’s economic progress.

In todays GOP the Federalist elite tend to get elected to the Senate and the self-made Whigs get elected to the House.

I don’t have time for more right now. But if you think about it, you’ll see its true.

We need to work in the GOP to make it more conservative, there is no alternative.

Why not? -the lbs have the Progressive caucus! I also think Hoffman is good because his district is naturally conservative so he can win w/or w/o the GOP–at least ideologically. And w/backing from some heavy-hitters like Palin, Armey, et. al., he should be able to pull this off. Then he can caucus w/Rep or Conserv. if they form one; if he switches to GOP like Jumpin Jim Jeffords switched parties, he could then be an incumbent next election w/perks of that status. I agree that 3rd party = Ohole forever, but in this case, this special election, which is immediately upon us, it is a bellwether and could affect the attitufes of many going into the 2010 elections, just as the governor races are. Altho the Hoffman scenario is even more striking because it is NY which has virtually no Rep. and no Conservatives. I sent Hoffman money I hope everyone will—also got a call about helping out his campaign by the Susan B Anthony list, so if you are in NY please volunteer!

The GOP establishment has never like conservatives…ever. They hated Goldwater and tolerated Reagan because he won.

When in history has the GOP been a welcome refuge for conservatives?

The only way to go is a third party, I think. The two major parties will always tend torwards the center in the search for an electoral majority.

Interersting history essay, Vanishing. The actual beginnings of the Republican party came from Abolitionists and Free Soilers (from New York!) in 1854; they surpasseed and then absorbed the Whigs and Federalists.

This is like deja-vu all over again. I was a neophyte in 1994, during the Contract with America and the Gingrich Revolution. Hell, I even asked the doctor to schedule my C-section for early morning so I could be closed up and back in the room by the time Rush’s TV show came on. However by 1996 the establishment got their undies in a wad and told us to “move to the center”. We had to choke down Dull Bob for our nominee, and then face further losses in 1998.

Fast forward to 2008. We did what the “elites” told us to, didn’t we. And WHERE was all the “moderate” support for McCain…from Powell??? from that supposedly “enlightened” idiot columnist Kathleen Parker??? No. They all jumped aboard the Obama Express.

I say we win when we put forth sound, sensible apologetics for CONSERVATIVE causes..including the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage.

…all we have to do is consider the source;

Mike Allen: Reveals exactly who he is at the end of this interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2HhJ_AsqH8

AND the overwhelming evidence Allen publicly refused to even look at;

Sonia Sotomayor ‘La Raza member’
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99420

An Absolut Outrage
“A key player in the “Reconquista” movement is the National Council of La Raza. Its motto: “For the Race, everything. For those outside the Race, nothing.”"
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=292547767868120

Exclusive: The Truth About ‘La Raza’
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=13863

La Raza -Chicano Activism in California
http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc0904/article_766.shtml

La Voz De Aztlan
http://www.aztlan.net/

What is MECha
http://www.mayorno.com/WhoIsMecha.html

And here are the two idiots drooling at the same time;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp0wojRWrvk

The demand that the GOP run more conservatives is falling on deaf ears. while accepting the Tea party movement as their the GOP is not representing it by try to elect Democrat lite candidates. The anything it takes to win mentality is the highest priority in the Party. Until the GOP gets the message loud and clear we are going to see more of the NY race scenarios .

I simply return all my requests for contributions to the GOP with a note saying when I see some hard line action and conservative principles beiing applied I will donate until then..don’t call me I’ll call you. I’m not alone.As co-founder of a local Tea Party group the whole movemnet feels the same. No more Rinos just to fill in seats with R’s after their name.

with the GOP voters from throughout the country.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/34_of_republicans_say_gop_cong.html

Per Rick Moran-

“That number won’t change anytime soon as long as the national GOP keeps the same people in leadership positions who caused this mess in the first place.”

Amen Amen Amen

Maybe just maybe, becker might be proven wrong with his opinion that McCain will not be going away anytime soon. Not that I want to prove becker wrong, but, the tide is a chagin’. And, so many think of McCain first as the ruiner of the party.

with the GOP voters from throughout the country.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/34_of_republicans_say_gop_cong.html

Per Rick Moran-

“That number won’t change anytime soon as long as the national GOP keeps the same people in leadership positions who caused this mess in the first place.”

Amen Amen Amen

Maybe just maybe, becker might be proven wrong with his opinion that McCain will not be going away anytime soon. Not that I want to prove becker wrong, but, the tide is a chagin’. And, so many think of McCain first as the ruiner of the party.

I completely agree with Maggie in Indiana; the GOP leadership is deaf, dumb and blind to reality, and will only respond to sticks, not carrots. More like brickbats.

I encourage everyone to go to http://www.LifeandLibertyPAC.com and/or http://www.MinutemanPAC.com — listen to the radio ads, and give a small donation to increase the Independent Expenditure ad buys being made in the NY 23 race to help Hoffman.

Even a little independent revolt goes a LONG way in provoking DC fear.

One thing that the GOP fat-cats track is “unruly” IE financial commitments made against their anointed candidates that they have foisted on the Party faithful — in contested primaries, or in specials like we see in the conservative revolt against the appalling Scozzafava.

They don’t like it, it worries them, it sometimes make a real difference in GOTV.

The only way that conservative principle is going to get reasserted again in the decisions and candidacies of the Republican Party is if the rank and file, the grassroots, THE DONORS enforce their will on the idiots in DC. These characters have become so corrupted by their power, prestige and wealth there that they haven’t a clue any more about the actual needs of the country. They will care only when it begins to affect them inside their Beltway bubble.

They STILL CAN”T HEAR US! Help run ads, and deliver VOTES! and by some time in 2010, some of them will begin to get the message. If we leave to them, nothing is going to get better. Nothing.

“Sen. Joe Lieberman, …chairman of the government affairs committee, asked the White House to provide a witness for Thursday’s hearing but it did not send one.” The White House Counsel (Craig) responds as below:

“In a letter last week to Miss (Sen) Collins, though, Mr. Craig explained that the White House is not trying to circumvent Congress. “We recognize that it is theoretically possible that a president could create new positions that inhibit transparency or undermine congressional oversight. That is simply not the case, however, in the current administration,” Mr. Craig wrote.”… the new positions Mr. Obama has created within the White House “are solely advisory in nature” and have no independent authority.”

In New Speak per G. Orwell (”1984′) “…theoretically possible…” must mean something like “…no way, Jose…” although the reality seems different to me.

They really do have contempt for us who live out here in the real world. I wish our own would stand up and defend us. Maybe we do need a new party, one dedicated to the proposition that all of those who represent us in Washington and our state houses, are required to be honest and their word is their bond. Further that they are recognized as full citizens of this country and are subject to the same laws and obligations of every citizen. And they have no rights or privileges not fully and obviously justified by their responsibilities and full information is freely available on REQUEST about all actions taken in our names or purporting to be for our benefit.

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