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we geezers are living longer and longer and longer. And told her that “your generation” will be taxed to the max to pay our benefits. I may have exaggerated by saying 90%, but I did get her attention. Heh.

Rudolph Guiliani
http://rudolphgiuliani.blogspot.com/

Mikey “The Huckster” Huckabee
http://mikeyhuckabee.blogspot.com/

Willard “Mitt” Romney
http://willardromney.blogspot.com/

John “Juan” McCain
http://juanmccain.blogspot.com/

Mikey “The Huckster” Huckabee
http://mikeyhuckabee.blogspot.com/

true measure of this man, then we have our answer about what that slick veneer of geniality really hides. There’s a mean spirit under that big old smile.

Were single issues social conservatives that were not likely to donate money to McCain. Yeah, he was running at that point because he loves the attention of the campaign and to launch his punditry career and trying to beat Romney in the delegate count for second. It was petty but to argue that it hurt McCain in a siginificant way is an overstatement.

You put in a stereotype.

preacher? I know quite a few in my area and they are nothing like Huck. They are people of faith who are there to help out families and others in times of trouble while keeping their flock together.

Huck would be lucky to have the depth of goodness and honesty of the small town preachers I have known here. Not to mention the lack of vanity.

Anteater

Here’s how to tell what Hucka Hucka is thinking.

Step One: Put finger in mouth, get it wet.
Step Two: Place finger in air and determine which way the political wind is blowing.

Support someone in the NY23 race or not, but take a stance one way or the other, that’s called leadership and that’s what I am looking for in 2012. I may disagree with the positions taken but I will know where people who want my vote stand.

He spent 10+ years in office and never found a problem that government shouldn’t or couldn’t solve and never met a tax increase he wouldn’t sign.

Huck personally wants all the power he can get his hands on. He’s nothing more than a modern version of Huey P Long.

Wallace is pro life, pro family, and is a three stooled conservative. I knew him personally and as an added bonus I might say, he’s also the only African-American candidate running. He is sensibly conservative, a la Blackwell (not a loon like Keyes) and would deserve our vote and the support of the grassroots. Better a D win than a RINO like Kirk, a McCainiac who is getting Johnny’s fundraising corps and personal support. Let’s stop McCain from mavericking the party in his liberal image.

And the fact that Mitt’s idea, whether good or bad, could be turned into Devalcare just underscores the fact that he doesn’t understand the limits of power.

“Giuliani lost the nomination because of his lack of ability in running a campaign”

That’ll doom ya, every time.

their high-school sweetheart and stay together for life any more. It is tough enough for people who aren’t in public life, but it is almost impossible to keep a marriage together for people who are highly visible except for those “marriage of convenience” political marriages that are so common with politicians.

You become amazingly attractive when you hold an elected or appointed office. Even if you can withstand the temptations that come with that fact, all the fraternization that you are required to do and the rumor mongering that goes with political life is very tough on a marriage. Some “helpful” person has whispered to my wife and or boss that I was sleeping with practically every woman I’ve ever worked with. She’s lent enough credence to some of those whispers to give us a few rough patches but she knows that while I’m no saint, I’m also no fool and women you work with are for fools. It just goes with the territory if you hold any position of power; the easiest way to assault your power is to assault your person. As much as they decry it, Democrats and especially their freinds in the unions and non-profits live on “the politics of personal destruction” as it applies to Republicans. An allegation of infidelity will not hurt a Democrat politician beyond perhaps sentencing him to the sofa and having to smile and hug a person that hates you; she’ll do it too for the cause. Republicans aren’t allowed that stuff. Likewise, no reporter is going to follow up on ANY allegation against a Democrat and they’ll follow up on EVERY allegation against a Republican. Along the way, before they have even a scintilla of evidence, they’ll whisper the allegation to the political gossip columnist and that columnist will run something along the lines of,” an just who was that nubile you thing so-and-so was with at insert most fashionable watering hole?” It’s lots of fun to start your Sunday morning with your wife having just read one of those! That’s a Sunday you’ll not want to miss Sunday School and Church; everybody will be staring and snickering but at least it’ll keep your wife from sounding like a chainsaw in your ear - for a little while.

And as to your last point, more than anything else, the Republican Party needs someone who has demonstrated that s/he can actually run a government. Guiliani has far and away the best resume on that count. Romney comes in second but I don’t see how he ever gets around his obvious superficiality and opportunism on issues; I really don’t think there’s a there there. Huckabee’s experience is with a small, mostly rural state with a reputation for corruption. And don’t even get me started on She Who Was Once Governor of Alaska.

Three wives doesn’t speak to the kind of character that counts in a leader, it speaks to a bad love life. Apples and oranges. A lot of “virtuous” well-married men would have folded under 9/11. Jimmy Carter had a good marriage–and was a lousy president. Ditto Obama. The times call for a true leader, not somebody with a pristine marital record.

in a Rudy pick. As a social conservative, I certainly can accept what you say. Perhaps I’m being more a realist here about his past. What Achance said below is absolutely true for those in public, heck even private life. I know Rudy is not the conservative in our way of thinking. But as a native New Yorker, I see him a bit differently. I read somewhere that Giuliani would not step all over the social conservatives and I think that is a critical point. I think he has enough character strengths to accept where we stand on issues and to work with us, not try to destroy us.

Besides, I believe two things: men/women can change in a genuine heartfelt manner and, we as conservatives are going to be nudging the country in the same direction, so our leaders will have to move with us, or find another job.

As a matter of fact, he was the first and only President to be divorced. That’s not something that ever bothered me, and evidently it didn’t matter to the vast majority of the electorate either. And no one has ever even tried to suggest that Reagan suffered from a deficit of character.

Marriage is no more permanent a thing than anything else in American life anymore. Enduring marriages are as rare now as working for the same company for one’s entire career. That’s a sad, ugly comment on society, but it’s a reality: Half of all marriages in this country end in divorce. If anything, I think that the kind of bold, aggressive personality that makes for successful leadership in the Reagan/Giuliani mold makes one more prone to marital difficulties and divorce.

But I don’t see irreconcilable differences at the most personal level between two people as evidence of a character deficit. What most of us are starved for at this point is basic competence from a President, something that has been sorely missing from the office for close to 20 years. That’s why Rudy, while hardly perfect, is by far my favorite of all the potential choices out there now.

Guliiani can be excused for one mistake, however, he seemed to not learn the lesson of morality, even as a Catholic. Divorce is so prevalent now, it’s almost as though with marriage you get the easy oportunity to change marriage partners, as you change your underware. I am once divorced, and, I made sure that my dissolution was acknowledged by the Catholic church for good cause. That was when I still believed in the Catholic religion. It cost me mucho bucks to get that annulement.

Guiliani, a pro-choice Catholic (can that even exist, yes it can, look at Pelosi and Biden) has no strong bearings in a religious set of principles. How strong can he be with other principles?

I thought Guiliani was interested in becimng Governor of New York. Maybe he doesn’t have the big bucks that Bloomberg has (the biggest political spender in history, over and above Obama) but, he does have a great history with doing alot of good things for NY, 9/11 comes to mind. Stay in NY Mr. Guiliani, that is where you can do the most good.

How many evangelical votes in NY or NJ? OF COURSE Huckabee did well in such places. The system assured him a good result. Let’s change the system–THEN find out how well Rudy would do. Start with the bigger blue states–which is where the fight should be anyway. We should be taking the fight to the enemy–not courting evangelical southerners.

I understand that it is not 1955: my problem with the second divorce is the dishonesty involved. Please read my comments carefully: and I agree that a NY Conservative is not the same as one from Ohio or the South.

And that is one reason why, as TBone states above, Giuliani received 1% of the primary votes. Conservatives were willing to accept Reagan as a divorced president because he was seen as honest and someone true to his principles, and…

Reagan’s first marriage to Jane Wyman was not undone by adultery.

I will reiterate: Giuliani might have been better accepted with some sort of “mea maxima culpa” on this aspect of his personal life. But the pro-abortion position remained.

Also agreed: any recycling of Huckabee, Romney, Giuliani, etc. from 2008 dooms us. I know there is great enthusiasm for Sara Palin, but the resignation does not help her.

Thaddeus McCotter, J.C. Watts (remember him?), Michele Bachmann, David Petraeus (?), somebody else please!

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The prominence (and absence) of certain individuals on Hoffman’s home page is telling:

http://www.doughoffmanforcongress.com/home.html

Huckabee’s tacit approval of Hoffman is the top item. Does this suggest that Huckabee’s subtle nod is worth far more to Hoffman than the very public endorsements of other maverick individuals?

that some perceive him to be a “fool”. But given his current trajectory, he will be a happy one come 2012.

And Doug Hoffman is all to happy to post on his front page that this “fool” has said very nice things about him:
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/24/mike-huckabee-wont-endorse-hoffman-i-know-why/#comment-37531

Imagine that! Hoffman thinks that a subtle positive nod from this “fool” would be able to sway undecided voters in NY!

Until our schools are safe and properly teaching facts and reasoning, stuff like that is a luxury we literally cannot afford.

Here in Metro Phoenix there is a school in Mesa called East Valley Institute Technology.

My youngest (now 22) attended there when he was in HS. It’s open to all Metro HS students. They take half day academics at their “home” HS and are bussed to EVIT for a half day of their chosen program. Ethan was in the culinary arts program - it’s a two year program. At the time they had world class chefs teaching in the program.

Ethan has been working full time as a line cook and a chef since he was 15. He’s been offered every job he’s ever tried out for (in the culinary business the “interview” consists of cooking). He’s worked in 5-Star resorts, world recognized private restaurants and done high-end catering (like for Rolling Stones private parties on tour).

EVIT is the model for technical/career education at the HS level. Frankly, the education Ethan got at EVIT is comparable to virtually every culinary arts “college” (and I’ve looked at most of them with Ethan). Those are post HS programs, certificate not degree, and will cost you around $60K for an 18 month program. If you don’t have significant kitchen experience when you graduate, you’re qualified for an $8.00 an hour job. (The two exceptions, which are “real” universities, are Johnson & Wales in RI and CIA in NYC. Both are 4 year degree programs and are the Harvard/Yale of the culinary industry.)

Hannity will bring “liberals” on with a gang of conservatives so that they can just bash on them. He needs the others to validate what he says. He is a me-too kinda guy.

Someone disagreeing with Beck on his show, ya right.

I like O’Reilly. He tries to bring in those who oppose his thinking, but usually only to rip them apart.

Huckabee is the only one who actually has a conversation with those he doesn’t agree with, without shouting over them (O’Reilly) or cutting them off with a change of direction (Hannity)

And I do not respect the way you go calling people “liars” when you have no evidence to back it up.

Nowhere in the interview did Huckabee say that ALL OF FOX IS COMMENTARY. Here is a direct quote: “I don’t pretend to be (impartial). Honestly, this (the Huckabee show) is a point of view show…That’s the whole point. Fox News COMMENTARY SHOWS are just that, commentary shows. Nobody who watches me has any delusion that I am somehow objective.” END QUOTE.

He states straight up that his show and the other commentary shows (ie: Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly) (NOTE: not all of Fox in general) do have a point of view. All the rest of the shows on Fox are genuine news shows.

If you weren’t offended by Huck’s attacks on Mormonism during the primaries, it’s too late to get worked up now.

First off, Huck and I disagree on a couple of issues. I was one of the first ones to come out against him for not endorsing Hoffman. As time has gone on, I can see why he is not OFFICIALLY endorsing him. (Notice how he has spoken very favorably, and that Hoffman features Mike’s so-called non-endorsement on the front page of his website.

And as for Beck. I do not dislike him. A lot of what he says I agree with. Some I do not. What I was saying is that Beck preaches to the choir, while Huckabee preaches (pardon the pun) to those who really need it. Everyone has their role.

Christianity and socialism are two different things some Christiand think the two are compatible with one another, some think they are diametrically opposed…some are somewhere in between…

what I object to however is the painting of everything Huckabee has done as being what you can expect from all Christians…

Ive gone from being a Huckabee Supporter as the lesser of a bunch of evils…to being opposed to him as an apologist to Jeremiah Wright…to having second thoughts and keeping an open mind because of his being the single prominent Republican out there opposing the bailouts to now seeing him as a Hypocrite and an opportuinist because he is playing both ends against the middle in a race where the difference between the candidates couldn’t be more stark where Abortion and traditional marriage are concerned…(this is the area where I have agreed with him most by the way)…so…he’s climbed out on a limb and sawed it off with me…but his/my faith has nothing to do with it…

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in Washington—Fred Thompson

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