Allah Pundit notes a new poll by Research 2000 on behalf of the DailyKos. The race has Owens at 33 and Hoffman at 32. Scozzafava is all the way back at 21%. Wow.
Gov. Rick Perry and Congressman Trent Franks endorsed Hoffman today. Also, country music sensation John Rich is headed up to NY-23 from Nashville to help turn out the vote for Hoffman.
With a race this close and Hoffman’s base profoundly fired up, he could realistically win this race.
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This is unacceptable.
Tbone Thursday, October 29th at 5:03PM EDT (link)The Republican leadership(oxymoron), should tell her to drop out of the race. It is obvious that Hoffman can win if she doesn’t suck away the ignorant Republican vote.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Maybe it is too late for that now
antisocial Thursday, October 29th at 5:10PM EDT (link)However I find the exit question interesting.
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Isn’t it true that the Democrats might not be unhappy to see Hoffman win this given the encouragement it would provide to third-party conservative challengers next year? And, conversely, that the GOP might not be sad to see Owens win, knowing what a stern cautionary tale this would be for right-wing independents mulling midterm runs of their own? Maybe that’s why the RNC is propping Scozzafava up, to keep bleeding Hoffman in hopes that Owens will eke it out. This way, even if they lose the battle to the Democrats in NY-23, they’re more likely to win the war next year.
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How about this lesson – Conservative base can bleed republicans to extinction if RNC does not choose conservative enough candidates. OR Republicans can not win elections without conservative candidates. For me personally, this is more of a fight between squishes(democrat lite) and conservatives.
PS: Even the democrat is accusing Republican of raising taxes in this case. So a democrat thinks republican is too far to the left. Imagine that!!!!!
What is to be done?
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No. You can’t - Moe Lane
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We shall fight in the air, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, we shall fight in the hills — for 18 months. Then we start packing for home. - Charles Krauthammer
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
Seems to me the Republican solution to that exit question would be making Hoffman a Republican?
AceInTX Thursday, October 29th at 6:39PM EDT (link)House Conservatives Fund
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If he wins they won't have a choice.
antisocial Thursday, October 29th at 9:23PM EDT (link)If he loses, I don’t know whether NRCC will learn the lesson.
What is to be done?
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No. You can’t - Moe Lane
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We shall fight in the air, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, we shall fight in the hills — for 18 months. Then we start packing for home. - Charles Krauthammer
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
That's funny ACE. Hoffman is "independent".
Rod_Patrick Friday, October 30th at 5:15AM EDT (link)Conservative Party members in NY are independent - independent of GOP’s instruction.
CP generally votes Republicans, if they find the candidates “conservative enough”. If not, they run with their own candidates.
So, asking Hoffman to be a GOP means asking “too much”, i.e., giving up his principle of independence.
Not so in this instance Rod...
AceInTX Friday, October 30th at 4:22PM EDT (link)Hoffman sought the nomination as a Republican and decided to run on the Conservative Party ticket only after the party bosses hand picked Dede. He has said win or lose…he will be running for this seat in 2010 as a Republican.
My question was a rhetorical one aimed at the argument above that by engineering a Hoffman win we;d be encouraging third party runs across the country…
What I was driving at specifically was that if the Republican Party had any brains…it would dump Dede, get Hoffman elected and make it clear the party is backing him because he represents the best of the Republican Party and what it stands for…and it would encourage him to switch his party affiliation from the CPNY to the NYGOP as soon after the election is over as possible.
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The NRCC has pulled their anti Hoffman ad as well Here's their ad against Owens
AceInTX Thursday, October 29th at 6:31PM EDT (link)Kind of lame…but at least they’re attacking the Democrat this time!
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This one's better
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Or this
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We can definitely win this
SirGladiator Thursday, October 29th at 6:37PM EDT (link)This isnt about parties, its about principle. If neither major party nominates a Conservative, we’ll still run one, and he will win, that is the message we’re sending. Quite frankly, after the way both parties have screwed things up in Washington it might actually be easier for Hoffman to be elected as a Conservative Party guy than if he were the Republican. Also worth noting is Dede’s number, 21 percent. This is from the group that ENDORSED her, the DailyKos, and if THEY’RE saying she only has 21%, she might really be in the low teens right now. I definitely like our chances to win this!
We Need to Provide A Way Out For Newt.
americanmale Thursday, October 29th at 7:22PM EDT (link)He’s so close to the epicenter on all of this. He can’t help but get tunnelvision every once and a while. We need to figure out a way to get Newt out of this with his head still held high. He’s a good trooper and i like having him on our side.
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How about "I messed up and I'm sorry?" nt
Xasteius Thursday, October 29th at 7:30PM EDT (link)Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
Exactly,
Leopard1996 Thursday, October 29th at 7:46PM EDT (link)Instead,it does seem that he wants to play kingmaker to solidify his presence in the party. Either stand for conservatism all the time or get the hell out of the way.
“The accumluated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, “Save Us!”….and I’ll look down and whisper, “No”…The Watchmen
I don't.
Steph C Thursday, October 29th at 7:45PM EDT (link)He hasn’t been on ‘our’ side for awhile now. It’s just now becoming apparent because he wasn’t all that active but his betrayal is darn near complete now, too.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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We didn't get Newt into the position he's in, he did it himself.
janis Thursday, October 29th at 9:05PM EDT (link)Why should we have to provide him with an out? Let his good friend and respected colleague, old Madame Botox, do him a solid. Or let the NRCC guide him out of the maze he worked himself into.
Call it a reverse government plan. Think of it this way:
Give a politician an excuse and he’ll keep screwing you over. Show him how to quit screwing you over and he won’t need excuses. (But this only works if a politician doesn’t WANT to screw you over. There are very few.)
Newt's Way Out:
UpLateAgain Thursday, October 29th at 9:39PM EDT (link)http://www.tcotreport.com/wholiedtonewt.html
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
Anyone who, in so many words, says I'm stupid for supporting the conservative,
Vegas_Rick Thursday, October 29th at 9:21PM EDT (link)does not deserve my consideration.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
call me overly suspicious about a dkooks supported poll...
DONTREADONME Thursday, October 29th at 8:45PM EDT (link)but I am concerned this is an effort to divide and conquer. I could be way out in the LEFT field on this, but everything the left does seems to involve subversion. Than again, its just me.
I Could Buy That, If There Weren't Already *Two Other* Polls Showing Much the Same Thing
IJB Thursday, October 29th at 9:57PM EDT (link)It’s back to Ian Fleming (paraphrased):
Once is happenstance.
Twice is a coincidence.
Three times makes it a trend.
Three polls, if you include this one, in the last week have shown Hoffman either ahead, or nearly tied with Owens, with Scozzafava back an 20% or less.
These three results tell you all to need to know.
Newt - On the wrong side again
Jesse V Thursday, October 29th at 10:07PM EDT (link)I used to live in what was Newt’s district. I voted for him several times. When he ran from ran like a coward and resigned, I took it personally. I supported him. And when he made his comeback I thought he should be President.
Now - I think he’s just trying to save his own skin. He could care less about us. All he really cares about is what will get him power and prestige.
And that my friends is that. Sorry to say it. Sometimes the truth hurts.
So, no outs for Mr. Gingrich. He’ll just turn tail and run again!
Go Hoffman - Go NY-23!
Jesse V Thursday, October 29th at 10:20PM EDT (link)Its up to the Conservatives and fiscal conservatives in NY-23 now. They have the momentum, they have America’s support! Its their time to shine and its up to them. to be the beacon on which we all show a united front. All Americans have provided support, both monetarily and morally and now we leave it to NY-23.
Its the last stand before the big battle. This is the shot heard around the World! Come’on NY-23 makes us all proud. Lets start beating back the socialist scourge that has infiltrated our great land!
Let us stand proudly beside you as you claim the first victory in the battle to take back our America!!!!!!!! Let us stand triumphantly with you as you proudly proclaim that “We the People” still rule this land!
Let us stand hand in hand with you, as you, NY-23, make it known to the socialist/looters in Washington that they no longer rule us but that “We the People” are the sovereign rulers of America!
We’re behind you! Show the rest of the Country what we are all made of and what we all believe is best and right for America!
Make us all proud NY-23!