What do Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, mastermind of the September 11th terrorist attacks, and uninsured 20 year olds have in common?
In Barack Obama’s America, they both go to jail — but the terrorist has to be convicted first.
Consider this an open thread.

Soon as WalMart opens, I'm gonna invest in some more precious metal! nt
Achance Friday, November 13th at 10:15AM EST (link)In Vino Veritas
Doing that before the 1000+% LEAD tax, nt
djemi Friday, November 13th at 10:41AM EST (link)“If I can’t shoot rabbits,then I can’t shoot fascist”
“With age, comes Wisdom, but only if you are paying Attention, son” my ‘Old Man’
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I was
firstfreedom Friday, November 13th at 1:54PM EST (link)going to buy lead today!
Dear Nanny State Gub'mint,
locomotivebreath1901 Friday, November 13th at 10:28AM EST (link)EFF U, EFF U, EFF U!
Sincerely,
the out-of-work, over tax, micro-managed, buyer’s remorse electorate which EAGERLY awaits the 2010 mid-term elections.
(’scuse my french)
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Question on Bill Procedure
NDPhog Friday, November 13th at 10:40AM EST (link)My financial services company has a meeting with my local anti-abortion Democrat Congressman today. Because of the nature of the meeting/lunch, the questions, which are not limited in topic, must be asked diplomatically.
If I ask “Will you support the Health Care Bill when/if the Stupak Amendment is removed in conference?” is that the proper terminology? Is there any other wording that could be used to improve upon the thought? Thanks.
NDPhog
Question on Bill Procedure
NDPhog Friday, November 13th at 10:40AM EST (link)My financial services company has a meeting with my local anti-abortion Democrat Congressman today. Because of the nature of the meeting/lunch, the questions, which are not limited in topic, must be asked diplomatically.
If I ask “Will you support the Health Care Bill when/if the Stupak Amendment is removed in conference?” is that the proper terminology? Is there any other wording that could be used to improve upon the thought? Thanks.
NDPhog
Maybe this
Jack_Savage Friday, November 13th at 10:53AM EST (link)“What made you decide to support the Health Care Bill? When the Stupak Amendment was added? Really? Will you withdraw your support if the Amendment is removed in conference?”
Let him bring up the amendment, and if he doesn’t, *then* ask him about whether it had an effect. You won’t be accused of interjecting abortion politics into the meeting then.
How about this question, NDPhog?
civil_truth Friday, November 13th at 10:55AM EST (link)If you want the government to keep its “laws off our bodies” how can you suppport a health care law that will give the federal government the power to mandate anything it wants regarding health care and create unfunded mandates to carry these decisions out?
And Rightly So!
I'd lead a little.
Achance Friday, November 13th at 10:56AM EST (link)Since he’s a Democrat and thus a weasel, he can obfuscate about just what the “Stupak Amendment” is or means. I’d say something like, “Since the Stupak Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds for abortion, should that Amendment or a similar provision not be included in the Conference Report, would you support the Health Care Bill absent such a provision? It’s a little clunky, but it has some foundation.
In Vino Veritas
So what does this Gallup Poll mean to the DEMS?
djemi Friday, November 13th at 10:43AM EST (link)http://www.gallup.com/poll/124253/Say-Health-Coverage-Not-Gov-Responsibility.aspx
“If I can’t shoot rabbits,then I can’t shoot fascist”
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Obama on Economy: "Let's Have a Meeting!"
Spartan4Life Friday, November 13th at 10:43AM EST (link)I can only imagine who he is going to invite in for one of his little seminars….
“Governor Granholm, how did you crate the economic miracle that is Michigan?”
“Well, we used our Obama stimulus money to bribe some battery company to locate a plant in our state. They will be building batteries for the next generation of cars that nobody wants. As a result, we will be creating 40,000 high paying union “green jobs” over the next 10 years. We are well on our way to replacing the one million jobs that have been lost during my tenure as Governor!”
“How about you, Mark Zandi, what have you been up to?”
“Well, after getting my Republican bona fides as a top economic advisor to the (disasterous)McCain campaign, I turned my attention to Congress, where I have become the chief architect of Porkulus, I mean, Stimulus 1. I am sure after my last two endeavors that people will be anxious to hear what I have to say about the additional Stimulus I think this economy might be needing! Pay no attention to that statue of John Maynard Keynes in my briefcase.”
“And, let’s hear from the SEIU…..”
“Healthcare for everybody and green jobs or we bust your kneecaps. Got it?”
Go to Schauers meeting and ask him
djemi Friday, November 13th at 10:45AM EST (link)http://mitcot.ning.com/events/calling-michigan-patriots-mark
“If I can’t shoot rabbits,then I can’t shoot fascist”
“With age, comes Wisdom, but only if you are paying Attention, son” my ‘Old Man’
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It gets a lot worse
tankertodd Friday, November 13th at 10:45AM EST (link)Once at trial it will be easier for the court to throw out the case against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed because he was tortured. In a few years we’ll settle out of court with him and he’ll be amassing wealth from us in order to use it against us. Call it the Soros Strategy.
Our federal court system will get guilty pleas on the balloon boy parents but not on the worst single incident mass murderer of our era.
I’m starting to dread Fridays, when Obama drops his turds in the punchbowl. I’m REALLY dreading the Friday after Thanksgiving, which is probably an extremely slow media day. Who knows what he’ll drop then.
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Schuaer MI07 reasons for voting for HRC
djemi Friday, November 13th at 10:52AM EST (link)“If I can’t shoot rabbits,then I can’t shoot fascist”
“With age, comes Wisdom, but only if you are paying Attention, son” my ‘Old Man’
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Q: Anyone really think Abortions won't be funded in Oba<i>mao</i>care?
JLenardDetroit Friday, November 13th at 3:25PM EST (link)ABORTION: Democrats don’t follow the Laws they pass (Abortions, as promised to PP - WILL BE COVERED)
HR3296, even with Stupak Amendment — the HHS Secretary is the one that will have the sole discretion and is tasked with setting up the criteria of what is minimum coverage as a qualified HC plan under these Laws. They can and will use this alone, if they feel they need to, and if you want to step up and call out that as a conflict with Stupak they’ll just refer you to the LIBERAL ACTIVIST JUDICIAL system (lower Federal courts before it would ever get to SCOTUS) where they’ll tie it all up in the mean-time.
Regardless of what Final Bill comes out of all their wheeling and dealing to get any old Liberal Incremental-ism BS passed so they can bury (read:hide and pass) more that the Nation doesn’t want in some other Bill (like they already had passed the “Health Panel Oversight” in the Stimulus Bill prior to all the official Obamaocare debate)…
As if they are going to actually care what the final Laws say, they WILL be funding Abortions anyway REGARDLESS…. The LINE ITEM CHARGES that will be paid WON’T SAY: “ABORTION” THEY WILL BE “BIRTHING SERVICES” but there just won’t be any LIVE BABY DELIVERY in those “Services” ….. I mean really…. We gonna wake up from this usual “RE-Define the Terms” dodges/scams the Democrats are allowed to get away with?!?!?! Or Planned Parenthood will begin the new “Get 5 visits, get FREE Abortion” Program - so they can inflate costs of visits for any reasons and basically just pre-pay Abortions!
THERE CAN BE NO COMPROMISE WITH THESE PEOPLE! and these The Senate HC “Gang Of Sicks” ARE STILL the most dangerous in DC right now!!!! They may still waver — pressure cannot be let up!!!!
Kathy Ireland: best anti-abortion comments ever made and more on her words here
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Isn't the AARP a Whore?
Spartan4Life Friday, November 13th at 10:57AM EST (link)The best I can tell it is an insurance company that sells Medicare supplemental insurance to cover all the stuff that Medicare doesn’t.
Is it any wonder that they are salivating at the House Bill that purports(it will never happen) to cut $400-$500 Billion from Medicare over the next 10 years? Sounds like a windfall for the good old AARP.
AARP, taking advantage of Seniors since 1958!
Anybody who would join this creepy organization to get a couple of bucks off at Motel 6 gets exactly what they deserve.
My reply to the AARP membership invitation...
RedBeard Friday, November 13th at 11:06AM EST (link)…involved… er… let’s just say it involved detailed insertion instructions.
Oddly enough, I now seem to be off their mailing list.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Hoping to become a very profitable "whore"
sharonmcp Saturday, November 14th at 6:37AM EST (link)From a Sept. 22nd article at The American Spectator
“Today, House Republicans have issued a report providing evidence that AARP is in a position to recieve tens of millions of dollars in ‘kickbacks’ if Democratic health care legislation becomes law.”
“…If the House Democrats health care bill becomes law, the report argues, it would be a boon to AARP, because while Medicare Advantage plans will be required to pay out 85 percent of the money collected in premiums to claims made by policy holders, the requirement would only be 65 percent for the kind
of Medigap policies sold by AARP.”
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/09/22/gop-report-charges-aarp-gettin
“Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.” ~ Ronald Reagan
Bum-tshhh.
reddwarf Friday, November 13th at 11:08AM EST (link)What do Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Barrack Hussein Obama have in common?
They’re both Muslim radicals that hate America.
(I’ll be here all week).
MMMMMMMM!!
hoohoohaa Sunday, November 15th at 6:30PM EST (link)BTW, the veal is excellent!
Today must be a government school holiday. The troll children are running loose. nt
Achance Friday, November 13th at 11:22AM EST (link)In Vino Veritas
I view it as using a salt block to hunt deer
Streiff Friday, November 13th at 11:26AM EST (link)not very sporting but very efficient
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
Art many are closed due to weather re Ida on the east coast nt
mom2oneson Friday, November 13th at 11:25AM EST (link)I have a question
scipio62 Friday, November 13th at 11:28AM EST (link)I’ve been looking for any information on a foreign enemy combatant being tried in the American civilian courts for committing an illegal act of war, such as what KSM and his band of terrorists did. I couldn’t find any and was wondering if anyone here knew of any of these trials?
It seems to me that Obama has decided all by himself to end the War on Terror and terrorists committing an illegal act of war will be considered no different than someone who commits a moving violation.
Except for those who don’t buy health insurance under ObamaPelosiCare. That “crime” will be considered a crime against humanity.
A just war leads to a just peace and freedom. An unjust peace leads to death.
Packers and Cowboys game
Cheetah772 Friday, November 13th at 11:49AM EST (link)I’m going to make a bold predication!
Packers is going to wake up from sleep and destroy Cowboys in the upcoming game this Sunday! Pretty soon, Packers will run all way to Super Bowl, steamrolling over teams like New Orleans or Steelers!
You heard it first here!
Nah, I was just kidding…..
Daniel 2:20 And he [God] changeth the times and seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding.
Happy birthday to me
Finrod Friday, November 13th at 11:52AM EST (link)Twenty-eight years ago, my thirteenth birthday was on Friday the 13th. You can do the math to figure out my age. (-:
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Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.
Oh, as a sidenote to anyone whose birthday is December 25
Finrod Friday, November 13th at 12:01PM EST (link)Robert Louis Stevenson, with whom I share a birthday, willed his birthday to Annie Ide, who had the misfortune of being born on Christmas Day. Hence, I now make the same offer to anyone born on December 25: please feel free to celebrate your birthday on November 13, six weeks before Christmas.
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Is it Allahu Akbar or God is Great?
4life Friday, November 13th at 12:57PM EST (link)Did anyone notice that the media was reporting that Nidal Hasan was yelling “God is Great” when he was shooting? Even on FOX they said something like ” He was shouting God is Great, or Allahu Akbar.” The use of “God is Great” was much more common in the media than “Allahu Akbar”. Now, Hasan was an American and English is his native language, so his intentional use of “Allahu Akbar” should mean something to people. Why did the news media feel the need to translate? As a Christian I am offended that “Allah” is translated as “God” because Allah is not the same God that I worship whose name is God. Why didn’t they translate it as “Allah is Great”? Is this a new angle on political correctness when talking about Islam? And really, do the Muslims even want it translated as “God” and not “Allah”? Don’t American Muslim’s refer to their god as Allah? So, if the Christians don’t like it and the Muslim’s don’t like it, then why are they doing it?
In the Land of Fringe Media...
Born Again Capitalist Friday, November 13th at 8:12PM EST (link).. Maj. Hasan is not an extremist, just misunderstood. Aww, he was picked on. The poor guy had to Overcome Adversity (TM). And, of course, he’s not caucasian. If a white conservative Christian bombs an abortion clinic, he’s the next Hitler (not that I would ever approve of that kind of terroristic attack, mind you). But when a radical Muslim extremist with a history of anti-American rhetoric plans out and carries a devastating attack - we just need to be more sensitive! It’s really the military’s fault for not giving enough diversity training! [/sarcasm off]
The “mainstream” media makes me sick.
Just happens to be Muslim
4life Sunday, November 15th at 6:13PM EST (link)This is what I heard another media person say, I think on NPR: “Hasan is a religious extremist who just happens to be Muslim.” Now this is just crazy! What other religion preaches ‘holy war’? None. What other religion has respected leaders with large followings preaching hate that must be carried out by suicidal terrorism? None! Yes, we can distinguish between Muslim Jihadists and Muslims who don’t believe in Jihad, but the fact that Muslim Jihadists are at war with the West is well established. Hasan’s Muslim Jihadist beliefs are the reason he did what he did and nothing else. So he’s not a crazy who ‘just happened to be Muslim’. So now we have a question that needs answering. If he doesn’t get the death penalty, does he still get the 70 virgins?
the Hasan-chop --- we look for more clues, Libs grasp for more excuses
JLenardDetroit Friday, November 13th at 3:09PM EST (link)We look for clues to prevent it ever happening again, Liberals look for excuses
Maj. Nidal Hasan was every bit the Military equivalent of the Robert Redford character in Liars For Losers (what I call “Lions For Lambs”), using a protected position and trying to convince them we are our own enemy, and should have been dishonorably discharged but instead was promoted. The message that “We Are The Evil” is not a question of “Diversity of Opinion” it is stupidly counter-intuitive to a Force that VOLUNTEERS to fight our Nations enemies. Sally Quinn, was on O’Reilly, still going on and on about how we cannot tell yet and must INVESTIGATE, which she really means time is needed by Liberals to investigate the best way to SPIN the situation rather than deal with REALITY! We Conservatives warned endlessly about the discrepancy of how the Liberals would rule (this yet another, treating Terrorism as Criminality like Bill Clinton did) over their conflicting Campaign rhetoric to lie their way into Office.
Liberals are trying to turn the FBI BA Division into the PC BS Division
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I have a different question...
throwback59 Friday, November 13th at 4:10PM EST (link)How do KSM and uninsured (and insured) 20 year olds differ?
In Barack Obama’s America they both get flu shots, but KSM (and his co-horts) get them first.
Did the Afghan get any reimbursement?
Alberta Friday, November 13th at 4:34PM EST (link)via: http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1227206/Nato-Labrador-Sabi-safe-YEAR-lost-fierce-Afghanistan-battle.html
So this dog is found, 14 months after it disapeared during a firefight, safe, happy, and healthy. Hurray. Im a sucker for stories like this. Its a black dog too, which is even better.
But what I would have done, had I been in charge of the PR? Pictures people! The story says they found the dog with an Afghan at an isolated post. Why wasnt the Afghan, the dogs handler, the guy who found the dog, and the dog, put in a group together and photo op? I think it would have looked great, been a good story, all that.
Are good stories not allowed about Afghanistan anymore? I mean, maybe I missed it, but Im linking to a British paper, not an American one. Was it not in an American one? I hope I missed it.
Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln
Sunday is recycle day
mom2oneson Friday, November 13th at 10:15PM EST (link)The lights out night was really fun on here. Can we have a use red plastic disposable cups for Sunday dinner day?