this scares the bejesus out of me.

Rightfully so. “Discovery” will allow them access to and exploitation of classified and possibly compartmentalized material from over half a dozen Special Access Programs (SAPs) and Alternative Control Measures (ACCMs).

If you ever joked as a kid about something being “above top secret”; that’s what SAPs and ACCMs are. Compartments of information so sensitive or collected in a legally questionable way that a handful, and I mean no more than five, have access to them or even know the programs exist.

Let’s make sure the terrorist scumbag(s) aren’t (isn’t) number six, mmm?

why would we endanger our populace with such tom-foolery? GITMO is an isolated place and any terrorist moving in that direction would be detected and neutralized with collateral damage probably limited to a few fish.

Now we are talking about moving these clowns near major population centers. Combined with the very relaxed immigration laws that Obama, Napolitano and Democrats have pursued and the resulting chaos on our border- this is a pure recipe for disaster. All for for ideological pursuits?

The only thing this will prove is the pure stupidity of anyone believing that non-citizen, enemy non combatants should be tried in US courts. Any person can take a brief glimpse into history 20th century conflict and in about five minutes determine why no person has ever been tried in this manner.

Just stunning; one really has to ask what is the goal and who is this aimed at pleasing? Certainly not the majority of Americans- but we are becoming pretty used to that position under Obama and Co.

Last sentence of the second paragraph “out” instead of “our”

Remember that Obama is an academic, he’s a product of Hyde Park extreme liberalism, American self-hatred, and has deep ties with Muslims. I wouldn’t assume for a minute that if a trial resulted in releasing a terrorist that he wouldn’t bask in the glory of “doing the right thing” and the notion of “better 10 guilty men go free than an innocent man be imprisoned.” He could pin the whole thing on the whole torture thing, and make it Bush’s fault, thus extending the shelf-life of the Left’s favorite political excuse well.
Remember that Obama comes from a place far, far away from the mainstream. After all, he DID pal around with terrorists. Anything is possible. The only good argument is the political one, but given the events of this year one has to wonder if Obama is politically tone-deaf.

Given that if one of these guys did get released they’d probably be operationally marginalized (i.e. “did they plant a GPS tracker in you? Why don’t you go to Antigua for 5 years and not call us.”) Obama could rationalize that these guys won’t be linked to any attacks on Americans in the next 7 years.

Obama is not looking out for America - he’s looking out for his loony out-of-mainstream agenda and point of view. Releasing a terrorist is not only possible, but potentially desirable in his own perverted view.

Are you SURE about that? I’m not; this is a president who cares more about showing he is “different” and “better” than all 44 of his predecessors, who cares more about what “The World” thinks of HIM, than he does about pesky details like a few million American citizens’ lives at risk. This is a man who views the Presidency of the US as a mere stepping stone to bigger and better things on the world stage, an audition for UN Secretary General after surrendering US autonomy to that body. He’s a transnationalist to the core.

How could a man like that, say “well, yeah, our Justice System said he was innocent, but we ain’t lettin’ him go.”

And frankly, I have my doubts about the personal security of the jurors and their families in a case like this — never mind larger threats to NYC. The defense team — and thus KSM and confederates — will eventually know the names and addresses of those jurors (whether they SHOULD or not, legally, is immaterial. They will find out). And if that thought occurs to me, you can bet it will occur to the jurors — or be pointed out to them in a late night phone call.

No, I have doubts that Eric Holder, FALN-lover, even CARES whether he achieves a conviction. Never mind whether, in the scenario above, he is capable of getting one. And Obama won’t hold an “innocent” man in the face of protests from his most beloved constituency (foreigners who hate our country). And at root, this is all about appeasing the Euros, the hard left, and enabling worldwide persecution of the Bush team via “war crimes” trials in foreign countries.

See, we think releasing all this data in open court, or even “privately” to the defense team, is a PROBLEM. Eric Holder and Obama think it is a feature, not a bug.

Travelling overseas to Denmark to pimp the olympics for Chicago without certainty of it happening. That went over well didn’t it. This administration is rank with wllfull incompetance or he has some other agenda for this. The only thing I can see is it would be a chance to put the Bush Administration and the CIA on trial through the terrorist’s defense.

In recent history NYC courts have handled 170+ terrorism cases successfully, I still just think this may not be the best idea.

I see no way they will walk, but how did these past documents get out after trial? My guess would be because they went into a documented record because of it’s use as evidence and went into a databse that could be hacked as powers have proven they can break into our Internet protections as well as we can into theirs.

It’s already done now though, all we can do is watch the circus unfold. If we’d just tried them in the military court under bush during the last 8 years we would have been able to avoid all this!!!

How many times have we seen judges make completely irresponsible calls? I don’t even see how the civilian courts in NYC have the jurisdiction to try this case. So much relies on the choices of judge and jury. On top of that, I whole-heartedly distrust trial lawyers. Look at our Congress and it becomes pretty obvious why. There are so many ways for the defense to postpone trial and loopholes to avoid being judged by the intent of law. The effectiveness of this relies on so many different choices: judge, jury, prosecutor, and defense. I believe that the administration will do what they can to get a guilty verdict out of this, but my question is how much damage they will do in order to score political points.
More than likely this circus will be used as motivation to put Bush administration officials on trial after they publicly release classified information.

Number one on Al Qaeda’s target list. How cool is that, the best place to bomb, for their next 15 minutes of fame.

I doubt that Obama would allow for the possibility of KSM walking or getting a light slap on the wrist, if for no other reason than that he still isn’t done with his domestic agenda. OTOH, he’s already done several things that just don’t make any kind of sense (Olympics and the like), and I, unfortunately, have to consider the possibility that Obama might not care enough to keep a close eye on how the case develops, or worse, that he wants KSM to walk/serve a light sentence and will take action to make sure that it happens.

This trial is all about a stipulation as to the legal definition of torture. Both attorneys, because they are cut from the same cloth, will agree to a very weak definition. Then, with that in hand, Obama will hand it over to the unrecognized, pathetic, and paticularly inept international court which will then indict Bush and Cheney on crimes against humanity.

The world will issue a resounding cheer. Obama, the narcissist, will then get his oh so coveted world wide accolade and adornment (the true goal of all of this), and we, the people, will once again be the brunt of global scorn and ridicule………….great foreign policy O’bow-er.

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then by definition KSM won’t be getting a “fair trial”. Not that he deserves or has the right to one in my view, but Obama is the one making hay about staying true to “our values”, whatever that means.