Why We Must Hold the Line


Call your Senator right now. Use this link to bypass the congressional switchboard.

Tell your Senator to vote NO on cloture for the motion to proceed to debate.

If the health care legislation goes to debate, Harry Reid will start offering amendments to pick off votes.

Call your Senator right now. Tell them both that a yes vote on cloture is a vote for the health care bill. The Congressional Research Service’s latest study proves that.

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Done, and done

RedBeard Friday, November 20th at 2:20PM EST (link)

Poor “Crist Lite” Le Mieux’s office is swamped. Finally got a frazzled but polite lady on the phone, and left my message. She’ll go home exhausted tonight.

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

 

Calling my CA Senators is useless, who should I call instead?

Tbone Friday, November 20th at 2:32PM EST (link)

NT

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Call them all

Freedoms Truth Friday, November 20th at 4:55PM EST (link)

It’s never ‘useless’ to call the Dimwit Senators, for this reason:

If even the Dimwit Senators are getting 9 to 1 against calls on an issue … THEN THEY KNOW TO KEEP THEIR HEADS DOWN ON IT. Which makes it harder for the leaders to shame the ‘holdouts’ to go along.

It helps ’shape the battlefield’

 
 

LIST OF ALL SENATE CONTACT INFO

danielbdp Friday, November 20th at 2:33PM EST (link)

COURTESY OF ONE NATION PAC:

http://www.onenationpac.org/takeaction/healthcare/callfaxemail.html

HERE ARE A FEW KEY “SWING VOTE” SENATORS:

ARKANSAS
Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D)
D.C. Phone: (202)224-4843
D.C. Fax: (202)228-1371
Little Rock Phone: (501) 375-2993
Little Rock Fax: (501) 375-7064

Staff Emails:
elizabeth_burks@lincoln.senate.gov
anna_taylor@lincoln.senate.gov
ashley_ridlon@lincoln.senate.gov
roger_fisher@lincoln.senate.gov
ed_french@lincoln.senate.gov
jim_stowers@lincoln.senate.gov
katie_laning@lincoln.senate.gov

INDIANA

Sen. Evan Bayh (D)
D.C. Phone: (202) 224-5623
D.C. Fax: (202) 228-1377
Indianapolis Phone: (317) 554-0750
Indianapolis Fax: (317) 554-0760

Staff Emails:
tom_sugar@bayh.senate.gov
josh_sargen@bayh.senate.gov
chris_murray@bayh.senate.gov
eric_kleiman@bayh.senate.gov
sarah_rozensky@bayh.senate.gov
charlie_salem@bayh.senate.gov
martha_pabon@bayh.senate.gov
cynthia_walker@Bayh.senate.gov
meghan_keck@bayh.senate.gov
brian_weiss@bayh.senate.gov
marie_francis@Bayh.senate.gov

LOUISIANA
Sen. Mary Landrieu (D)
D.C. Phone: (202) 224-5824
D.C. Fax: (202) 224-9735
Baton Rouge Phone: (225) 389-0395
Baton Rouge Fax: (225) 389-0660

Staff Emails:
jane_campbell@landrieu.senate.gov
kate_nicolai@landrieu.senate.gov
sarada_peri@landrieu.senate.gov
scheduler_landrieu@landrieu.senate.gov
adam_sharp@landrieu.senate.gov
jason_matthews@landrieu.senate.gov
laverne_saulny@landrieu.senate.gov
Stephanie_allen@landrieu.senate.gov
aaron_saunders@landrieu.senate.gov

MAINE
Sen. Susan Collins (R)
D.C. Phone: (202) 224-2523
D.C. Fax: (202) 224-2693
Augusta Phone: (207) 622-8414
Augusta Fax: (207) 622-5884

Staff Emails:
steve_abbott@collins.senate.gov
holly_nesbit@collins.senate.gov

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R)
D.C. Phone: (202) 224-5344
D.C. Fax: (202) 224-1946
Boston Phone: (207) 622-8292
Boston Fax: (207) 622-7295

Staff Emails:
john_richter@snowe.senate.gov
anna_levin@snowe.senate.gov

NEBRASKA
Sen. Ben Nelson (D)
D.C. Phone: (202) 224-6551
D.C. Fax: (202) 228-0012
Omaha Phone: (402) 391-3411
Omaha Fax: (402) 391-4725

Staff Emails:
melanie_rogge@bennelson.senate.gov
tim_becker@bennelson.senate.gov
jonathan_coppess@bennelson.senate.gov
dayle_williamson@bennelson.senate.gov
kate_howard@bennelson.senate.gov
christiana_gallagher@bennelson.senate.gov

Here's Ben Nelson's statement on ...

joayn Friday, November 20th at 2:53PM EST (link)

the health care motion to proceed from his website. This guy’s a WEASLE and this statement is a joke. Talk about misleading people.

Wednesday, November 18, 2009

NELSON STATEMENT ON HEALTH CARE MOTION TO PROCEED
November 18, 2009 – Today, Nebraska’s Senator Ben Nelson issued this statement concerning a vote the Senate is expected to hold soon on a motion to proceed to debate health care reform legislation:

“Once Senator Reid releases his merged health care bill and the Congressional Budget Office fiscal analysis I and my colleagues will need adequate time—over several days—to review both. Later this week, the Senate is expected to vote on a motion to proceed, which needs 60 votes to pass. As I’ve said many times before I won’t decide how I’ll vote on the motion to proceed until I know what I’m voting on.

But I would like to explain what that vote means because there’s been a lot of commentary in the media, by special interest groups and in Congress offering definitions.

Some who define it as a vote in favor of the Reid bill are misinformed, or are intentionally trying to mislead people. I remember that some in my party said the same thing—equating this procedural vote with a vote for a bill—when the Republicans were in charge. If your goal is to obstruct, that’s a convenient argument.

But it didn’t stop me from reaching across the aisle and working with a Republican majority and a Republican president for bipartisan improvements to legislation.

Some who define it as supporting or opposing President Obama and his agenda do so because they either want him to succeed or fail. And some who define it as the last chance to stop bad legislation have a political agenda: They want to kill any health care bill Congress considers this year for leverage in next year’s congressional elections.

That’s more of the old Washington political gamesmanship people are fed up with. It’s not about working together on a bipartisan basis for the good of the American people. It’s not about taking time to get the right health care bill.

In reality, the meaning of the motion to proceed is very simple:

It’s a motion to commence debate and an opportunity to make changes.

Let me say it again: it is a motion to start debate on a bill and to try to improve it.

If you don’t like the bill, then why would you block your own opportunity to amend it? Why would you stop senators from doing the job they’re elected to do—debate, consider amendments, and take action on an issue affecting every American?

But before I say yes or no on that motion to proceed, I believe Nebraskans want me to have adequate time to read the bill and to study its costs. That’s just common sense.

To do otherwise would be like deciding before the opening kickoff of a football game to punt on first down. Once I have the ball—or the bill—and can assess the situation, I’ll be ready to call a play.”

When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan

If Ben Nelson Can't see that this bill will sink........

DavidS1787 Friday, November 20th at 4:38PM EST (link)

the United States then he has had blinders on! The Good people of Nebraska will remember come time for re -election!

If you think amendments matter, then

GregInFla Friday, November 20th at 5:04PM EST (link)

meet the Stupak Amendment. And still tell me that amendments matter. They are the closest thing to vapor known in legislation.


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Hagan (D-NC)

Trelaina Friday, November 20th at 2:50PM EST (link)

Even the direct line was busy, at 2:30pm. Will try again later.

“I would be a poor Commander in Chief”
– Barack Obama, July 3 2008

 

Hagan (D-NC)

Trelaina Friday, November 20th at 2:50PM EST (link)

Even the direct line was busy, at 2:30pm. Will try again later.

“I would be a poor Commander in Chief”
– Barack Obama, July 3 2008

 

Emailed Snowe and Collins

zaxour Friday, November 20th at 2:54PM EST (link)

They better not sell us out.

 

VA is poorly represented

johnCV Friday, November 20th at 2:55PM EST (link)

Warner’s office (1 of 5 that I could get thru to), said he was voting for cloture. When I asked the aide why the Senator supported the health care bill, he said Warner did not, but wanted a debate to ‘modify’ it. I then explained that we understand the process and how after debate, passage is nearly gauranteed, The Senator would be remebered for his vote - the miffed aide thanked me for my opinion.

Finally got one of Webb’s offices. As usual he ‘has not made up his mind’. This is the answer they always give. If he truly doesn’t have hos mind made up on these important votes this close to the actual deed, he’s either a vacuous boob or totally devoid of any priniples.
He’s up in 2010 - a yes vote for this abonination and he will be toast. Hopefully toast anyway….

Webb's term is up in 2012

Illinicon Friday, November 20th at 4:11PM EST (link)

the race bewteen him and Allen was in 06. Given that he was largerly a single issue candidate (Iraq) and that issue will be resolved in 2012, I doubt he runs again especially if Barry is still radioactive in Virginia as he was this year because it will be hard for Webb or any dem to win with him on top of the ticket.

Support the best reform candidate for IL Gov:

http://www.adamforillinois.com/

 
 

faxed both Cornyn and Hutchison

irishgirl Friday, November 20th at 3:24PM EST (link)

Faxed both this morning, because hard to make calls. Besides switchboard was tied up. I heard Cornyn on Am Family Radio and he said he would absolutely not be voting for cloture and anyone that did was voting for the healthcare bill.

 

RESIST, REJECT AND REPEAL!

danielbdp Friday, November 20th at 3:30PM EST (link)

AND…REMEMBER!!!

THE 2010 VOTING SEASON IS ONLY MONTHS AWAY…THEN WE’LL START TO SEE CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!

 

Please call Tom Coburn's office

TxCon Friday, November 20th at 3:36PM EST (link)

I just read two stories about how he changed his mind about reading the bill. That bill needs to be read.

202-224-5754

I called and hope .............

DavidS1787 Friday, November 20th at 4:28PM EST (link)

others did also. The thing we need to know who got to him last night and made him change his mind!!!!!! In other words tell him to name names! Also ask him to Fillibuster!

 
 

SENT E-FAXES LAST NIGHT TO ALL SENATORS

danielbdp Friday, November 20th at 3:37PM EST (link)

Below are all the Senators’ e-faxes - hopefully those voting NO on motion to proceed, can also influence at least one of the “undecided”:

2022241152@myfax.com; 2022282186@myfax.com; 2022281229@myfax.com; 4159566701@myfax.com; 2022248858@myfax.com; 2022280012@myfax.com; 2022241651@myfax.com; 2022280776@myfax.com; 2022282183@myfax.com; 2022281371@myfax.com; 2022281264@myfax.com; 2022241193@myfax.com; 2022241388@myfax.com; 2022283027@myfax.com; 2022241083@myfax.com; 2022246020@myfax.com; 2022286326@myfax.com; 2022242126@myfax.com; 2022246747@myfax.com; 2022280325@myfax.com; 2022283954@myfax.com; 2022280400@myfax.com; 2022242417@myfax.com; 2022281377@myfax.com; 2022284054@myfax.com; 2022281382@myfax.com; 2022247327@myfax.com; 2022249787@myfax.com; 2022244680@myfax.com; 2022280380@myfax.com; 2022281067@myfax.com; 2022284131@myfax.com; 2022242852@myfax.com; 2022283997@myfax.com; 2022243149@myfax.com; 2022281373@myfax.com; 2022285143@myfax.com; 2022286363@myfax.com; 2022241724@myfax.com; 2022282856@myfax.com; 2022247665@myfax.com; 2022282193@myfax.com; 2022248525@myfax.com; 2022282862@myfax.com; 2022285429@myfax.com; 2022282090@myfax.com; 2022242207@myfax.com; 2022248594@myfax.com; 2022249750@myfax.com; 2022244952@myfax.com; 2022240776@myfax.com; 2022241100@myfax.com; 2022247776@myfax.com; 2022280282@myfax.com; 2022248149@myfax.com; 2022283398@myfax.com; 2022243808@myfax.com; 2022245301@myfax.com; 2022280514@myfax.com; 2022242354@myfax.com; 2022280908@myfax.com; 2022246471@myfax.com; 2022246295@myfax.com; 2022249735@myfax.com; 2022249412@myfax.com; 2022242237@myfax.com; 2022241933@myfax.com; 2022281375@myfax.com; 2022280359@myfax.com; 2022245213@myfax.com; 2022242499@myfax.com; 2022241946@myfax.com; 2022246331@myfax.com; 2022243514@myfax.com; 2022243479@myfax.com; 2022240238@myfax.com; 2022282981@myfax.com; 2022243416@myfax.com; 2022280360@myfax.com; 2022280002@myfax.com; 2022280604@myfax.com; 2022281168@myfax.com; 2022282197@myfax.com; 2022280378@myfax.com; 2022285417@myfax.com; 2022282717@myfax.com; 2022242725@myfax.com; 2022281265@myfax.com; 2022240103@myfax.com; 2022282853@myfax.com; 2022246519@myfax.com; 2022242693@myfax.com; 2022249450@myfax.com; 2022285765@myfax.com; 2022282190@myfax.com; 2022246008@myfax.com; 2022249369@myfax.com; 2022283261@myfax.com; 2022282577@myfax.com

 

Hope old Joe Lieberman

TxCon Friday, November 20th at 3:55PM EST (link)

holds firm.

Joe plans to vote yes on Saturday's vote

countessolenska Friday, November 20th at 4:07PM EST (link)

He will vote no on the cloture motion to end debate and vote for the actual bill, which probably will not come until December.

So, his vow to block the public option is admirable, but he still favors moving ahead on health care reform.

Sorry this was unclear

countessolenska Friday, November 20th at 4:15PM EST (link)

Lieberman opposes the public option. He favors allowing debate on the bill, so he will vote yes on Saturday.

If the public option is in the final Senate bill, Joe will vote no on cloture to stop debate and go to a vote.

I predict that they will remove the public option or change the “opt-out” provision to a “trigger” provision. The bill is still bad though.

Can states opt out of the taxes?

GregInFla Friday, November 20th at 5:09PM EST (link)

Too?


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Shouldn't that be switched

TxCon Friday, November 20th at 4:16PM EST (link)

yes tomorrow and no in December. If so, he is a weasel. He knows good and well it will pass the full Senate so he can easily vote no in December. Tomorrow’s vote is the real one.

Tomorrow is not the real one

jrhode2873 Friday, November 20th at 4:19PM EST (link)

There are other votes that will require 60 votes including to end debate on the bill before final passage.

97% of bills that get past this

redneck_hippie Friday, November 20th at 4:25PM EST (link)

“procedural” or aka “test” vote, become law. It Must Be Stopped Now.

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23; translation: RINOs Have No Base.

True but...

jrhode2873 Friday, November 20th at 4:29PM EST (link)

99.9% of bills aren’t as controversial and have as much riding on them as this one. That 3% probably represents the most difficult and divisive bills that ultimately don’t survive the politics of the Senate.

The elephant in the room is Obama's

redneck_hippie Friday, November 20th at 4:34PM EST (link)

big open purse whereby the King’s treasury is raided to convince “problematic” senators.

“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.

Remember NY-23; translation: RINOs Have No Base.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

This is not the final say on Health Care reform

jrhode2873 Friday, November 20th at 4:06PM EST (link)

Reading some of the posts on this website the last couple of days and browsing articles on the web about this vote coming up on Saturday, I can’t help but to wander if we’re getting a little too bent out of shape about what really is at the end of the day a procedural vote that isn’t in any sense gonna be the final say on health care reform. If you think about it, is there really a lot to be gained from a Democrat Senator by voting no to begin debate on the bill? There are still votes on very important amendments and the final passage of the bill that will all require 60 votes. Maybe debating this monstrosity for a couple more months and watching it die might not be such a bad thing.

Senate Democrats very unlikely to block debate

countessolenska Friday, November 20th at 4:08PM EST (link)

The Democratic base would absolutely revolt if some of their own wouldn’t even let this bill get to the floor.

That's what I believe (hope?) is happening. The mod

eburke Friday, November 20th at 4:27PM EST (link)

Dems are between a rock and a hard place - if they vote no on this pile of manure, the netroots will have a collective hemmorage; if they ultimately vote yes, they’re privileged Georgetown cocktail circuit careers are done.

I’m thinking that the ‘thread the needle’ position on this is everyone votes ‘yes’ on the Motion to proceed, we get a ton of ammendments that either pass or don’t pass which will make no difference whatsoever, one D senator whose career is in a world of hurt if they vote for cloture will not vote for cloture saving the others from political death.

My money’s on Lincoln or Nelson (my guess is Lincoln) to be the ’savior’ of the other mods for 2 reasons: 1) the net roots have little real impact in either NE or AR; and, 2) Lincoln, especially, will hit the endangered list *big time* if she votes for cloture so *if* there’s going to be a ‘fall on the sword’ moment, I’m thinking it’s one of those 2.

At least that’s what I’m praying for.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

Hard to imagine

jrhode2873 Friday, November 20th at 4:36PM EST (link)

that Mod Democrats would fire their bullets at this “early” stage in the Senate process. Nothing to gain really.

So much more succinctly put than I, jrhode :-) nt

eburke Friday, November 20th at 5:07PM EST (link)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

 
 
 
 
 

Ron Wyden appears to be bought off too

countessolenska Friday, November 20th at 4:10PM EST (link)

Reid and Baucus are co-sponsoring a milder version of Wyden’s Free Choice amendment. This is significant to many Senate Democrats, as Wyden is considered an expert on health care reform, spending many years on this issue.

Wyden's a leftist wacko so what ever the price was

eburke Friday, November 20th at 4:29PM EST (link)

to ‘buy him off’, I’m sure it wasn’t much more than a cheap bottle of wine and a box of cracker jacks.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

“Dead fish go with the flow” ~ izoneguy

“We have a Statue of Liberty not a Statue of Necessity” ~ ColdWarrior

 
 

Bill Nelson's Line is busy

muckraker Friday, November 20th at 4:14PM EST (link)

He’s a lost cause, but I tried anyway

I sent him email

GregInFla Friday, November 20th at 5:11PM EST (link)

He replies quickly (within a day recently) about the topic. My last one was on Hamilton confirmation. Here is webform. I am thinking about the free trial from myfax.com. Anyone else doing that?


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Sen Bill Nelson (D-FL)voicemail box is full

GregInFla Friday, November 20th at 9:45PM EST (link)

And I am sure it is not full of “Vote for Reidcare” messages either. I wonder if they really care. Just thought of it, if you rearrange Reid you get “dire”. How appropriate.


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PA senators

readmeat9 Friday, November 20th at 4:52PM EST (link)

Spector’s line was busy for 10 mins strait or I got a message saying all lines were busy. Casey’s mailbox was full.

I sent both emails, and faxes. I got delivery confirmation on the faxes but who knows if they were read. I believe they have both made up their minds to vote yes anyhow. I did remind Spector that he needed some votes from the good people of this state next year, but I don’t think he cares.

 

Tell Friends, Family, and Neighbors to Call, also

Spartan4Life Friday, November 20th at 5:46PM EST (link)

I have generally kept to a “No politics” rule with my family because there is no good to come from discussing. On this I made an exception. I sent my entire family an e-mail suggesting that if they don’t like what Congress is doing to let tthem know.

 

Still getting busy's all over at 6:30ET.

skicougar Friday, November 20th at 6:41PM EST (link)

In DC and the states(of those staff that haven’t had enough already and gone home).

So, keep calling ! I’m not quitting until the cloture vote passes.

BTW - Reid’s local # is: 702-388-5020 - f-702-388-5030.

I enjoyed telling his staff this is their last year and they’ll be part of the 2010 unemployed numbers.

Eat ‘em up Houston Cougars !

My message to Nelson if he voted Yea

GregInFla Friday, November 20th at 9:47PM EST (link)

was:

If you vote for this bill, be prepared for your government-run retirement home or hospice in 2013.


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