….shall set us FREE!

Serve(r)s them right!

Can we finally tell Al Gore to SHUT UP now?

I’m new here at RedState and I’m wondering whether it means that I did something wrong if comments were closed on a thread of mine.

I don’t think I did, but just wanted to make sure.

“Sarah Doesn’t Owe Johnny Mac Jack”

Thanks in advance for your guidance.

Russ

Some of these scientists are Americans.

How’s THAT for motivation to vote Republican!

show up to explain to us why none of this matters in the least.

over source code and data sets and discovering what has been done under the guise of science. Per Steve McIntyre of climateaudit.org:

“The emails are only the start of this. The zip includes data and code…”.

http://camirror.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/these-will-be-artificially-adjusted/

Government, the economy, science, politics, media, careers, the IPCC. It staggers the mind.

to me is that the vast majority of the folks there come across as true believers, rather than fraudsters. Folks who actually believe that they’re on the right side of this on the science, and who are uncomfortable with deception. I’ve read probably a third of the emails at this point. This is a good thing, because as the science actually changes these people are reachable.

Now a few of the folks, Phil Jones and Michael Mann especially, come across as the unethical con-men they seem to be. But most of the others don’t.

This is going to be interesting, though, especially if a la Breitbart, there are more revelations to come.

See the following from http://www.climateaudit.org/

From: Phil Jones
To: ray bradley ,mann@xxxxx.xxx, mhughes@xxxx.xxx
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa@xxx.xx.xx,t.osborn@xxxx.xxx

Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or
first thing tomorrow.
I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from
1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual
land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land
N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999
for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with
data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
Thanks for the comments, Ray.

Cheers
Phil

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) xxxxx
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) xxxx
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxx.xxx
NR4 7TJ
UK

Also see globalwarminghoax.com and a great video of an interview with Dr. Tim Ball at:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/22/video-dr-tim-ball-on-the-cru-emails/#more-13062

Including Al “Internet” Gore

I have said, FROM DAY ONE of any discussion regarding the AGW Hoax that I participated in, that

(a) not only could they not demonstrate conclusively that MAN had caused global warming, they had not even established that in fact global warming was occurring.

(b) the first rule of any kind of evidence in any setting is, is the source trustworthy? IPCC, a UN-funded bunch of scientists on various government doles, was miles and miles from passing the objectivity smell test. If a warehouse full of putrid, rotting mackerels passes the smell test, then so does the IPCC.

Every conservative that gave ground without knowing for sure whether the lefties had solid data, that said “well, OK, there’s global warming, but there’s no evidence that it’s man-caused” acted the fool.

That’s right, a bunch of people, including here at RedState, acted the fool.

So here’s the lesson. You DO NOT take the word of lefties for anything. Get the facts yourself. That means you, Doug Hoffman.

From here via IceCap.us. Just a few:

# Letter to The Times from climate scientists was drafted with the help of Greenpeace.(0872202064)
# Mann thinks he will contact BBC’s Richard Black to find out why another BBC journalist was allowed to publish a vaguely sceptical article.(1255352257)
# Kevin Trenberth says they can’t account for the lack of recent warming and that it is a travesty that they can’t.(1255352257)

From the blog entry on IceCap titled “The Death Blow to Climate Science” (Scroll down to the second entry As of today dated Nov. 21 by Tim Ball:

Professor Wegman showed how this “community of scientists” published together and peer reviewed each other’s work. I was always suspicious about why peer review was such a big deal. Now all my suspicions are confirmed. The emails reveal how they controlled the process, including manipulating some of the major journals like Science and Nature. We know the editor of the Journal of Climate, Andrew Weaver, was one of the “community”. They organized lists of reviewers when required making sure they gave the editor only favorable names. They threatened to isolate and marginalize one editor who they believed was recalcitrant.

The gun, smoking it is.

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“The most dangerous special interest is big government, and President Obama is its lobbyist.” -Thaddeus McCotter R-MI
You think people are mad… We passed mad several exits ago. -Rush Limbaugh

When the Vietnam War and the draft faded as an organizing issue for the communists, they turned to environmentalism. Same people, same tactics, same purpose.

conclusion first and then look for the proof to back it up. When you invest so much time, effort and reputation into a cause you can’t admit you’re wrong, even if you have to manufacture the evidence.
We’ve seen this with the Kennedy conspiracy, cold fusion, UFOs and the Truthers. In a few years GW will be lumped together with that group.

They want a world government, and they blew open a big hole in the line, and Barack Obama is running down the field, and most people are too stupid or busy or unconcerned to recognize it. It is both a pleasure and a horrible curse to be among the few who see it.

That’s about where challenging AGW is these days; just ask your kids. They’ll tell you the polar bears are drowning. We’ve reinvented the world lit only by fire and we are governed by ignorance, superstition, and fear of the priests.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydo2Mwnwpac

at leeast that is how they do it on sopranos or the wire when theyx are conspiring…they don’t send out a bunch of emails and leave a paper trail….

It really is appaling how arrogant they are to do it all by email.

Odd. This will undoubtedly get huge play today on Rush et al. I wonder what O’Reilly will make of this since he’s been a AGW supporter (albeit not a rabid one).

These are scientists?

The THEORY is surely wrong!

But there is tons of gov’t funding for Man-Made Global Warming “research”, and these “scientists” all want some.

really sad - so I guess there is some truth to the conspiracy theory…congrats…

Of course us humans can lie and connive, but the beauty of science is that really the data speaks for itself and if you really look deeply at the data (including those of skeptics), this doesn’t change much.

So, what it really marks is the beginning of a hacking war. I’m sure we’ll soon find the inboxes of NAM, the Heritage Foundation etc. open for all to read - how sad for everyone…

Maybe I see things diffrently than others. Ive never gone for this Global warming DUNG. now it seems its all about money.These lowlifes that think they are scientists are nothing but con artiststrying to run a scam on the whoe world. I believe it goes much deeper than the so called scientists.This new-communist party we have runnuing this country ,I believe is behind the whole thing.A grab at as much power as possible and to keep chiseling away till they are in controll.If we follow the dots backwards this all can and should be made public. We The People deserve better than what THEY are giving us which is DUNG by the bucket loads.Now lets keep exposing this tradgedy of our times so we can leave it a better place for the next Generation.

To the Hacks (your worldly title) To me, you all are TRUE AMERICAN HEROES. And I personally want to thank you for your extraordinary work in the field and off. I also would like to recomend you all for the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. Not the fake one gore and obama purchased ,But the REAL ONE that the people of the World recognize. We know what is rightous and what isnt.We know what the Truth is and what isnt. We seem to handle the truth very well. Why cant they why are they always trying to manipulate falshoods into truths. When will we say enough is enough. I say the time is now. Anyway to THE HEROES ,dont stop now, through you a prayer has been answerd. Can you see a world rid of tyrrany?

to get a real job. The exposing of these e-mails proves their lies once and for all. I did see an article earlier today that now CO2 are at their highest level ever, must be their emergency plan in case they were exposed. The Chicken Little version of “in case of emergency break glass.”

the EPA on the ‘CO2 is a pollutant’ nonsense?

I hope the normally hapless Republican leadership won’t drop the ball on this. They should be waiving this every day and demanding accountability on these ridiculous policies from Obama and his Czars AND the EPA.

Don’t screw this one up (R)’s.

If the liberals continue castigating us as “climate skeptics,” we should respond that they are “climate alarmists.”

The subtle name change of their position from “climate warming” to “climate change” shows just how foolish they truly are.

After all, another name for “climate change” is “weather.”

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10987

At what point does misrepresentation of facts become lies? A general definition of the word lie is “an intentionally false statement”, but this applies to a single statement and the key word is “intentional”. A single misunderstanding or a misstatement can occur, but what if there are a series of misstatements from an individual or group? What happens when many statements are proved incorrect, but they continue to repeat them or fail to acknowledge they were false?

There is a long and growing list of statements by promoters of human CO2 induced global warming that have proven incorrect. Yet they continue to push their claim by ignoring the evidence and diverting attention with new specious and spurious claims. Most politicians and mainstream media continue to believe because they don’t understand or don’t want to understand for political reasons. However, even they must understand when the predictions are consistently wrong. Science is simply defined as the ability to predict, so the failure invalidates the science even if you don’t understand the science. People who persist only have a blind belief and as the adage says, there are none so blind as those who will not see.

What a terrifying basis for devastating and totally unnecessary energy and economic policies.