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Barbara Boxer Imploding

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  December 3rd, 2009 at 04:27 PM  | 

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Matt Lewis has post up at Townhall about the implosion of Barbara Boxer, perhaps the most detestable of all United States Senators.

Boxer, who ironically has a five letter last name that starts with a “B” just like the word that most accurately describes her, wants to use congressional power to harass the people who leaked the climategate emails. She does not, however, want to review just how damaging those emails are to the Church of Global Warming.

Likewise, Boxer has been screwing up talking points on health care in ways not helpful to her own cause.

The woman is a dolt. Her last remaining claim to fame is being a High Priestess of the Church of the Butchered Baby, but even her pro-abortion stance is not saving her.

As Lewis notes, “Boxer has been incapable, thus far, of garnering more than 50% support for her re-election in major polls. The two main figures vying for a chance to replace her, ex-Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina and Assemblyman Chuck DeVore, have been doing plenty to put a dent in Boxer’s odds of winning a fourth term. ”

Good riddance.

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  • bk

    but it’s certainly close.

  • Old_Crow

    But I expect nothing less from a pol who is a slave to his union masters.

  • RedBeard

    While I would agree that Chuckie the Camera Whore is lower on the Scum Scale, it would be difficult to find any member of the Senate ranking lower than Boxer on the Dumber Than A Box of Rocks Scale.

  • Old_Crow

    a simpleton slave to his union masters.
    Heck the NYPD Sargent who unfortunately ticketed his mother for a parking violation found himself reassigned and his career ruined.

    He’s a big fish who needs to fry.

  • smagar

    In the past, we Republicans have sometimes been too dignified for our own good. We try to rise above it all. See McCain, John.

    Not this time. Wallow in it, Chuck and Carly.

    Tell Californians that you’re running for the Senate because California shouldn’t have a stupid Senator.

    Come out and say it. Use more polite words, if you have to. But say it.

    Make it clear that you think Barbara Boxer is too dumb for the US Senate. You have lots of evidence to show the CA electorate, to justify your assessment.

    Let her prove you wrong. Don’t let her use your civility, or any fear you might have of being branded as “meanies” by the Boxer-friendly CA media, as a shield. Make her do the work of getting out and convincing the CA voters that she deserves another term.

    You might want to remind the CA voters that, one reason your state’s farmland is turning into a desert, is the kind of enviro-nuttiness that Boxer espouses from her Chair of the Senate’s Environmental (Whatever) Commitee. Tell the voters, over and over again, that she chose the Delta Smelt over the people of CA.

    If you do this, fully and vigorously—and the people of CA STILL pick Boxer, then they deserve what they get.

  • Crowe

    I’m no fan of Boxer, but there’s no call for the personal insults. Beat her soundly, using her own horrid record and idiotic statements, without being downright mean.

    She’s not that smart, unprincipled, egotistical, preening, and all kinds of things that are unattractive in government officials (or in pretty much any walk of life, for that matter), but she is a U.S. Senator.

    Let the other side spew invective.

  • Leopard1996

    Part of the main reason why GOP is getting beaten like a redheaded stepchild, is that they have no decorum and make the GOP look stupid through mocking. The state of this country is way past the let’s be nice state of affairs, and maybe having folks showing how stupid this woman is, and making her the butt of jokes, like the left succeeded in doing to McCain, appear to try to do to Palin, etc. Maybe we can get our points across to the 52% of dummies that make up the electorate that gave us Obama.

  • Third Street
  • Third Street

    Sometimes you just gotta call ‘em as you see ‘em. And I can’t see that Erick said a single word about Babs that isn’t completely accurate.

  • Tbone

    The majority of Senators bring zero class to the position and I would include MANY Republicans in that group. Being elected a Senator does not bestow a title of respect, it has to be earned. Boxer is the lowest form of human life and I would gladly piss on her if she wasn’t on fire.

  • eburke

    Chuckie the Camera Whore and and Babs “No one’s lower than me on the Dumber Than A Box of Rocks Scale” Boxer.

    Nailed it buddy!

  • Leopard1996

    It can work for us to take back this country and put the liberals in the dustbin of history.

  • eburke
  • Crowe

    In fact, I pretty clearly point out some of them. But saying she’s a “bitch” in every way but using the word is a tactic of the Left.

    Attack her for how awful she is as a senator, absolutely. There’s plenty of ammo. There’s no need to resort to school yard name calling, and it pretty much plays against you, especially when a man is calling a woman a bitch.

    Is that clear enough? Am I gonna get in trouble for merely typing out in a comment what was all-but-typed-out in the original front-page post?

    So be it.

  • Third Street

    No need to shoot the messenger. :-)

  • Old_Crow

    They public employees.
    Accountable to us, the taxpayers.
    For every action, every vote.
    The time for ‘decorum” has gone by
    It is now time for action.

  • Crowe

    You’re right: they’re mostly classless.

    Doesn’t give you or me license to be classless.

    The position, even when not the person, is due respect. That the holders of positions frequently forget this and conflate the two doesn’t change that fact.

  • gawntrail1

    I’m all for whatever works.

    a> Pitchforks and Torches
    b> Tar and Feathers
    c> Issues based debate
    d> Calling a spade a spade
    e> All of the above

    Boxer is an embarrassment and she is corrupt……..not forgeting the fact(s) she is on the wrong side of the argument most of the time.

  • Crowe

    …I may have failed to make clear my meaning.

    Point out that she’s a horrid senator, that she says some pretty stupid things that she doesn’t have a principled bone in her body, that she’s a hypocrite, and all sorts of other really bad stuff that will result in her losing next year. Play rough and tumble politics in every way supported by the copious material she provides.

    But calling her that in a public forum is over the line.

  • Third Street

    Warning: Potentially NSFW.

    And we’re supposed to throttle back on calling Babs Boxer something that is not only comparatively mild, but, as I said, factually correct?

    Politics ain’t beanbag. It’s because our party hasn’t quite figured that out, that we have only 40 senators and a government about to take over decisions on which of us as individuals get to live or die.

  • gawntrail1

    I respectfully disagree. The electorate today is not made wholly of people looking for or participating in civil debate or much of anything rooted in facts and proof. Most could care less and only understand the one liner, the cheap shot, the gotcha moment, and only seem to learn lessons after having their noses rearranged. Too long Conservatives and GOPers have shosen to not drop the gloves.

    Well, we on the Right understand that Foriegn Policy needs to be backed up not only with a strong military, but, the will to apply it. Why do we continue to ignore this time-tested truth and not do a little (or a lot) of application ourselves? Are we above it? Are we better than it? Or, do we simply not have the stomach or the stones to do it?

    Considering the recent past, it seems dropping the gloves and throwing a few punches is certainly in order. Sorry if this rattles some cages or grates on some sensibilities, but sometimes enough is enough. Bullies need to be confronted and the last I checked they aren’t on the debate team.

  • Crowe

    Your whole post is about how your disdain for a respectful approach, so why take one with regard to me? Call me a chickensh-t if you think I am one.

    But you’re still off the mark, illiterate moron.

    A man calling a woman a bitch is not appropriate, and it’s not going to impress a single voter. So you’ve still lost, and she’s won, even if her nose is a bit bloody.

  • Crowe

    I forgot that bit of analysis.

  • bs

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  • Third Street

    Scram, idiot.

  • bs

    Decorum should be applied to our fellow Republicans and conservatives. For example, the episode with Huckabee earlier this week was inappropriate.

    This is not. They’re the bad guys. We beat them like rented mules.

    Screw the Dems.

  • Achance

    I don’t agree with him on this; I think it is time for us to tune up lefties, but there is a long tradition here of not tolerating calling the distinguished gentlewoman a bitch, whether she is or not. So, upholding that tradition is not a reason for him to scram or for you to call him an idiot.

  • mdyou

    …isn’t that the first step? I don’t feel better yet.

    But Erick, “…perhaps the most detestable…”???

    The woman is a moron. A narcissist. Without any value to the rest of the human race. I apologize, I have just slimed morons and narcissists.

    Every six years, I wake up to nausea the day after her re-election. wondering WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS STUPID, BANKRUPT STATE?

    My female canine is vastly superior to this dried up relic. Don’t be calling Boxer that name. Too good for her.

  • The_Gadfly

    pine for Andrew Jackson and Aaron Burr as a politicians in the current climate. A couple of honor duels and things would quickly become a bit more polite.

  • Third Street

    And I’ll have to leave it at that ’cause at this point words fail me.

  • Crowe

    Takes more than short-sighted goons like you to scare me off.

    Point is, those Palin shirts didn’t alter the outcome of the election. They wee worn by ideologues, likely to events filled with radicals who were set to vote for Obama anyhow. If anything, undecideds may have reacted against the shirt and given Palin a little more benefit of the doubt. Which is one of the reasons not to start calling Boxer a bitch.

    Apart from that it makes you look like you don’t have any actually good arguments.

    And, for what it’s worth, the Left gets away with bad behavior because they don’t claim any sort of higher reason to behave well, while the Right is expected to behave well because we are the side that talks about the importance of chivalry and behaving ourselves. The public knows this: it’s just part of the landscape. When we start acting badly it reflects harder on us than the same behavior reflects on them. Just the way it is.

    She, and many other liberals, can be beaten without stooping to that level. Really.

  • Crowe
  • WarEagle01

    Please. Stop inflicting this odious harpy on the rest of the country. Please. Just stop.

  • Crowe

    It may well be true that she is a bitch. I don’t know her personally. What’ I’ve seen in the media is that she is clearly about as dumb as a box of hair and has an ego almost as large as Obama’s, but lacks his sincerity.

    Maybe I jsut have a gut reaction against calling a woman a bitch in a public setting, even if warranted.

  • mschmitt

    … but I also sympathize (strongly) with Third’s frustration.

    Still, we have to try to live by a different set of rules.

  • bs

    should be ejected from the Union for their deplorable choice of Senators.

    Well, at least the western coast of California. We’ll keep the Inland Empire and Neil in the Union for now… But MN must go. Franken is inexcusable.

  • Achance

    but site rules and all.

    Back when I dealt with them most every day, my usual method of dealing with them was to be more vile than they could imagine, but I always did it in private and if I did it well enough, they couldn’t even complain because they didn’t want to admit that anyone talked to them that way.

  • redtillimdead

    It looks good. They are both going after her. Fiorina on her ineffectiveness and her “call me Senator!” along with California’s economy, and Devore on “Call me senator” and other issues with Babs. The one thing I wish they would attack her more on is her racism with Harry Alford. Both of these should be able to do very good with black voters if they play that issue. Both should be able to do good with women, especially Fiorina, if they hammer her on “call me senator”

  • Crowe

    …of a wizened (grizzled?) veteran.

    Besides, the private conversations, to their face, is far more fun and fulfilling.

  • gawntrail1

    Awfully testy.

    My point was there is nothing wrong with rolling in the dirt when its called for. I do find it interesting that you don’t think taking the gloves off with our opponents is a good idea, yet, you got no problem spraying around some friendly fire.

  • Achance

    haven’t been in a formal hearing or other “dress up” affair in a couple of months so I could use a shave and a haircut. I have been batheing regularly though, SWMBO insists on that unless I’m down on the boat.

  • gawntrail1

    Hear Hear.

    Like the rented mules they are………..

  • Leopard1996

    But ridicule her stupidity, absolutely. Make sure the mem is out there that states that she is a dumb, out of touch, northern CA elitist, absolutly.

    My issue is that the GOP in general, has a tendancy to stand there and point out policy points, while they are getting carictured as KKK sympathizers, theocrats, and wanting to make grandma die a slow protracted death while she is eating catfood. It is obvious that this hasn’t been winning elections for us for a while, and the main reason for that is that the voting generation is looking for the witty oneliners, and the contentiousness even if all of it is a WWE work.

    Again, I wouldn’t call her a bitch, but we do need to show that we are willing to tear her down the same way most leftys want to tear our people down.

  • smagar

    What tack will they take?

    Will they call her an embattled feminist? A victim of vicious right-wing smears?

    IMO, the only reason Boxer has stayed in office so long is that the CA MSM likes her.

    Perhaps, over the next few months, we should ask the California MSM why they think so highly of Barbara Boxer that they are willing to shield her.

  • RedBeard

    …that we shouldn’t cross. The difficulty is determining where that line lies. In my view, it is somewhere between “Dumb” and “Bitch.” The former term is descriptive and accurate, while the latter is just invective for invective’s sake.

    Respect is something not proffered, but earned. Barbara “Call Me Senator” Boxer has done nothing to earn it.

  • azaeroprof

    I agree with you about using the b*tch word publicly about Boxer.

    However, the morons wearing the “Palin is a c***” shirts were not at Obama events, they were showing up outside of Palin events. Right there in plain sight for Sarah’s kids to see them as the bus pulled in. Real classy, those lefties.

    We are definitely better than that. Hardball is great; dirty ball is not.

  • Scope

    need to take some lessons from the McDonnell campaign. He ran on “ISSUES” rather than trying to bash, and name call his opponent. He handled the thesis upheaval brilliantly, he spoke briefy about it, brought his wife and daughters out to prove he was not against women in the workfield, and, moved on to talking about his plans for the Commonwealth. It was a truley winning campaign tactic. I promise you his opponent Deeds was ready for fire, but, McDonnell stopped his fire at every opportunity.

    To get into the gutter, calling another candidate names like “bitch” or anything else is not helpful. They use the Alinsky rules, and, those rules are becoming more and more shuned, especially for the Independents. If you don’t have any plans, ideas, or visions for the state, you don’t need to run period. This will get me in trouble here, but, Palin talks to the issues, not the person, even Obama.

  • Scope

    need to take some lessons from the McDonnell campaign. He ran on “ISSUES” rather than trying to bash, and name call his opponent. He handled the thesis upheaval brilliantly, he spoke briefy about it, brought his wife and daughters out to prove he was not against women in the workfield, and, moved on to talking about his plans for the Commonwealth. It was a truley winning campaign tactic. I promise you his opponent Deeds was ready for fire, but, McDonnell stopped his fire at every opportunity.

    To get into the gutter, calling another candidate names like “bitch” or anything else is not helpful. They use the Alinsky rules, and, those rules are becoming more and more shuned, especially for the Independents. If you don’t have any plans, ideas, or visions for the state, you don’t need to run period. This will get me in trouble here, but, Palin talks to the issues, not the person, even Obama.

  • SteveLA

    First up, Matt Lewis is a writer and commentator based in Alexandria, VA ., might want to spend some time out in CA instead of living and reporting from the echo chamber that is Washington DC if he actually wants to understand the state and the politics of the state.

    Babs has tons of Liberal support in the state, and she just about can’t do much wrong with that crowd. Throw in that CA is a pretty blue state and it’s going to take some real punches thrown from the R side to get voters in the Golden state to throw her out and this is wishful thinking at best…at least for now.

    Over on the Republican side, we’ve got Carlie and Chuck DeVore slugging it out leading up to the R primary with Carlie slowly imploding with miss-step after miss-statement. DeVore is gaining, but has not been able to capitalize his record as a real leader on tax and spending control in the Assembly which for me is one heck of a good reason to vote for him.

    The RP faction is strong here, as are the Tea Party folks, and ordinary people getting taxed and spent to the poorhouse by the fools in Sacramento and the fools in the Senate. There is real anger there and real opportunity to throw Babs out on her liberal Tukis. But first, some how DeVore has to connect with the anger that is real in CA over out of control spending, and get those who are angry to vote for him, then we’ll all be able to sing.

    “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead”

    Inside the beltway group think, not so much.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • smagar

    Something tells me that Boxer has benefited from the CA MSM’s affinity for the Democratic Party. Doesn’t the CA MSM provide most, if not all, of the moderators/questioners for Senate debates?

    Well…it must make Boxer feel good to know that she’s being questioned by fellow Democrats, all of whom want to see her win.

    I suspect that Babs has benefited from a lot of softball questions, and less-than-aggressive followups to Babs’ dodging of said softballs…er, questions, in years past.

    Any chance of changing that in 2010?

  • Leopard1996

    Where there are folks there that have a level of intelligence, and knew the issues. My personal feeling about CA, is that there is strong majority of folks that need to have someone mocked and somewhat disrespected because they either don’t know the issues or don’t care about the issues, but would vote for the person that would entertain them.

    I do agree that we need to campaign on the issues, but once in while you need to throw the shot to make the person look like they are dumber than a box of rocks (in this case Boxer), because in the end for that voting public that is what they are looking for. I don’t think you win CA by just going over why Democrap/Libtard policies failed them and that our way is better, you also got to personalize it a little bit at the opponent, God knows Boxer and her gang are either going to try and paint Devore as some sort of Theocratic, archaic white man, or they are going to try and paint Fiorina as an out of touch rich CEO, who doesn’t give a damn about poor people.

  • smagar

    But first, some how DeVore has to connect with the anger that is real in CA over out of control spending,

    The CA MSM and unions will never permit this. The MSM will starve DeVore of the PR he needs to connect with CA voters. The unions will help.

    Besides wishful thinking, is there any way around this?

  • SteveLA

    Forgot about the GOV machine of the SEIU, the Teachers Union, the Supermarket clerk Union, the Union for having a Union. You are quite right about that point Neil.

    Thing is, and you and I have spared a couple of times, Chuck DeVore making the primary about social issues like abortion only feeds the ability of Liberals in the state to vote for Babs in the General. What I keep waiting for DeVore to do is come out swinging hard at Babs and the Donks in the state on fiscal matter, illegal immigration, and no he does not need to go all Tom Tancredo, just speak the truth and people will get it and agree and vote for him based on real issues confronting voters in the state. I’m not suggesting ignoring social issues, but in the same way the Governor’s race was run and won in VA; focus on issues that people are confronting and solutions being offered by the nominee that makes folks want to vote for real change based on competent leadership.

    All Carlie can point to is her time running HP, and that ain’t all that great a record if you really look at it and her ouster for incompetency.

  • smagar

    Maybe, if we ask loudly and often why the California MSM is so taken with Barbara Boxer…perhaps we can shame them?

    If we can make the case to CA voters that someone as stupid as Boxer could ONLY keep high Federal elective office for thid long IF the state media were covering up her many faults…perhaps we can tar the CA MSM with guilt by association?

    Then, to save their own spineless hides, they might turn on Boxer?

  • SteveLA

    Ignore Carlie and start punching the heck out of Babs and Donks on spending, on not coming up with a sensible policy to do something, anything about illegal immigration, and against giving government health care to illegal immigrants.

    Make the primary and the general about the Liberal out touch positions that Babs holds, which are further to the left in the state anywhere other than Berkley, San Fran.

    Carlie will self destruct trying to sound like she knows a darn thing about anything real. The CA MSM wants to turn the primary into a side show of the hair shirt social conservative guy beating up the poor woman, who we really like because she is really one of us. Ignore the game the media wants to play and there is nothing to report and to spin the fight the MSM wants to make up.

    Beat on Babs for the next n months, every day in every way.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Travelling constantly to speak directly to the voters.

  • SteveLA

    Neil

    How about a shot a day at Babs?

    Every day, the question: “How liberal and out of touch is Babs with the voters of CA?, let me tell you”. A new one every day, collect them all….LOL

    Fred can have his old Red truck, DeVore can have his daily Babs shot….

  • eburke

    It’s only been, ya know, like an hour since I was last reminded that my fellow Minnesota Morons elected *the* most vile, obscene, moronic, pathetic waste of human flesh to ever step into the U.S. Senate chamber. The one, the only (thank God) Senator Al “I’m a total douchebag” Franken.

    It’s embarassing.

    Oh, and did I mention that Al would have to be twice as smart as he is just to be an idiot?

    Other than that, I love the guy (how the hell Norm Coleman ever lost to this literal clown is beyond me)

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    But my RS time is split between posting, moderating, and backend stuff.

  • jrnlz

    This last presidential election will be known for many things, but amongst them, definitely the sexism toward Hillary and Palin. Many women, including myself, who don’t consider ourselves in the feminist camp are nonetheless more sensitized to these type of slights, including that word. There is plenty to criticize Boxer for policy wise. Her lack of intelligence should certainly be fair game as it so clearly has affected her work as a senator.

    I live in northern CA and have not heard or seen a single political ad by Devore or Fiorina, although I’ve heard and seen a lot by Whitman. I’m hoping that my fellow Californians will come to their senses and dump Boxer in 2010.

  • SteveLA

    Chuck DeVore needs to make something like a Shot ad Day at Babs his thing….DOH

  • Scope

    I am glad I don’t live in Calee-for–ni–ahh.

  • Scope

    I am glad I don’t live in Calee-for–ni–ahh.

  • IJB

    …And you’ll get your answer with what’s wrong with the state.

    The truly productive elements are now gone, and have been for a couple of decades now.

    CA’s electorate is now made up almost entirely of government bureaucrats, academics, showbiz and artistic types, “tech” workers, ex-hippies, low-income unionized workers, transplanted retirees (it’d be interesting to know how many current Palm Springs residents originally came from places like New England, NY & NJ…), and recent immigrants (both legal and illegal) with tenuous ties to American traditions. They more than overwhelm the few remaining farmer and rancher types in the Central Valley and the scattering of military folk at the ports and on the bases.

    With the former types, it’s relatively easy for Babs Boxer to win elections – after all, no matter how vain, arrogant and dumb she is, she’s still “one of them”.

  • throwback59

    Crises, she would want the U2 pilots prosecuted for violating Cuban air space.

  • nessa

    Republicans should be pushing the ethics issues that dem congress persons have. For two good reasons…

    1) This is THE MOST despicable congress america has ever had, there may have been times we had more numerous scumbags, but there has never been a time so many were give a pass by an “ethics committee”.

    2) The campaigning members should also be able to recognize that if they are going to run on requiring an ethical congress, they themselves will have to uphold that standard when they are in office. something entirely too many did NOT realize in 94.

  • Crowe

    The part about the DUMBBITCH continuum and where to draw the line (without, as what I just typed suggests, combining the two terms, yeesh.) I completely agree with. Descriptive, but not base invective.

    The part about respect, I see a two-level treatment. Barbara Boxer has not earned respect. Clearly. But a U.S. Senator ought to be afforded some respect, as should a woman by men. Since she is still both, until she loses an election and has surgery, I don’t believe it’s appropriate to withhold all respect.

    But now we’re splitting hairs. Point is, the junior senator from California does not deserve to remain in office because she is very bad as being a senator and doing what’s right for CA and the USA.

  • Crowe

    Two thngs.

    1) My descriptor was accurate, if “friendly fire,” since your post didn’t appear to follow from what I wrote. The point I was making with the “illiterate moron” bit was, make sure your insults are descriptive and based in reality. “Bitch” is so subjective as to be base invective with no hope of being objectively accepted.

    2) I wrote it in comments, about a fellow commenter; not on the front page about a woman and a U.S. Senator.

  • Crowe

    I look forward to taking part. On the copious merits of the case against her as a senator and official of government in general. There is no need to stoop to that level, especially considering the risk of alienating those sensitive to such an unnecessary term.

  • Crowe

    And I’m sure it worked against them electorally, though they may have gotten a great kick out of it, and folks at DKos likely howled with approving laughter. We’re not DKos. We’re better than that.

    And the thing is, everyone knows we expect better than that from others, as well as from ourselves, so if we can’t even meet our own standard why should they listen more?

  • Richard Mullins

    Even though I don’t live there, I do notice that the Zombie choice is voted it and now it coming back to bite everyone. I feel really sympathetic towards you guys because at least you can say “I told you so”. I’m still wondering how many jobs and people leaving your state is going to take for the majority to figure it out?

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    Those emails were hacked on a British server. How does she think the US Congress can investigate something that happened on foreign soil? And after the way Obama has dissed the UK from the very outset of his administration, starting with the return of Churchill’s bust, does she think she can possible influence the Parliament to conduct an investigation?

    Or does she think England is one of the extra seven states Obama mentioned once?

  • Richard Mullins

    That’s the only thing I can think of. Them stupids are always opening their mouths and letting all of us know what they.

  • nessa

    and was amazed at the number of conservatives I found there. Thats not to say they are a majority but they are there. I often wondered if they had gone the way of teh dodo bird. Granted, I work at Ft Irwin, the combination of Army post and High Desert artificially increase the number of conservatives (it requires so much effort to survive in the desert there isn’t enough gov’t support to live via gov’t handout).

    It is still frightening the way the entitlement mentality has zombiefied the populace. The work force there is amazing, once hired they expect everything on a silver platter, it’s “A Message To Garcia” in living color, day in and day out. Truly depressing and frightening at the same time. I would be ashamed to ask for the same things they expect from an employer. Earning loyalty from employees is an impossibility unless you can outbid the gov’t in benefits, if I wasn’t supporting Soldiers and units deploying to a combat zone it wouldn’t be worth it. Absolutely amazing. it has been an opportunity to see how the progressive’s policy’s have impacted those affected and I am thoroughly disgusted with the entitlement mentality.

    Personally its a draw between

    a) California sliding into the ocean

    b) California declaring bankruptcy and the Federal Government applying post-Civil War Reconstruction methods to see it reformed into a new state or two

    Sorry guys, it sucks.

  • nessa

    OMG! what a dangerous precedent we are setting here! What if crap-weasels emails were hacked and we all knew what they hid, covered-up, denied and lied about? And the bartering and pork that changed hands so that they could cover up for it? Gotta make sure that never happens. the congress-critters will only communicate with the American people, you know, the ones who consent to be governed?, through their press agents.

  • Richard Mullins

    Really, we do. South Bexar county is definably not a place run by conservatives but we still manage things well. See the dead votes is always high in counties run by the Zombies(that would like Zavala,Zapata and ohh yeah Duval), the Money always dries up and the electorate always more of the same failure. It’s can be fairly predictable. Military posts always have large amounts of conservatives and leftists tolerate them because of the jobs they bring. Well nessa, it going to take thousands of year to slide off in the Pacific ocean but it won’t take all that long to before California is bankrupt.

  • http://UnitedConservativesofVirginia Cargosquid

    Is there such a thing?

    I think the strategy would be funnier than hell, but she fits right in with the rest of the Democrats…….

  • smagar

    I would think that, in CA, he’d need ready access to, and plenty of visibility through, the media. How else is he going to reach enough people?

    If nothing else, Team Boxer and the unions will use THEIR easy access to the media to paint DeVore as some Neanderthal. Then, when DeVore tries to rebut, the media will starve him of the access he needs.

    SteveLA is right—-DeVore will have to attack, in such a way that the Boxer-friendly MSM can’t ignore it. He has to force a media showdown. He has to make the media pay real attention to him. Can he?

    I can’t see DeVore winning unless he can get his message out through the CA media. That’s true for Fiorina as well.

  • mdyou

    …where I live, used to be solid Red. The Star used to be a good, fair paper, now they want to be the LA Times (which is what everybody reads here, anyway).

    The left keeps running losers at Elton Gallegly, but I fear when he steps down. He wasn’t going to run a couple of terms ago, and the Dems would probably have taken the district. Than God he stayed on.

    And then we have the gerrymandered mess that gives us LOIS CAPPS IN PERPETUITY.

  • jrnlz

    … and you will see a majority of red in CA from a geographic perspective. There are many conservative counties in this state. Not all the producers have left. Many of us have chosen to stay and tough it out.

    The problem is that we are often out voted by the urban areas. The union influence is strong as Arnold found out in Nov. ’05. And the electorate is uninformed as evidenced by all the bond measures that passed in Nov. ’08 despite this state being beyond broke.

  • Tbone

    BS. If you believe that then you should move to England and learn to say “My Lord”.

  • mom2oneson

    Like your supposed to give them respect no matter how your husband or wife treats you. I’ve always heard the “he is your husband” or “she is your children’s mother” lines whens the other party is upset about some serious offense they did and maybe using vulgar terms. Obviously the cursing party is just venting but still they are reacting to how the other person acted. So do officials and spouses get a can do anything they want while still getting respect? I don’t get it. If someone does wrong they do wrong, why should we give them an extra allowance for wrong doing because of their position.

  • Duke

    “Ah…, General, would you address me as ‘Senator.’ I’ve worked so hard to get that title.”

    There’s still a paint mark on my TV screen where I scrawled the “L” on her forehead. Bye-bye Babs!

  • Read Chesterton in New Improved Jersey

    Twenty-some years ago I took on a radio host, possibly Mike Gallagher, maybe someone else, I don’t recall, over his disrespectful tone and language towards Senator Bill Bradley (D) of NJ. My reasoning was as good-intentioned and straightforward as yours… “let’s keep the discourse civil.” Looking back now, twenty-some years older and looking into the gaping maw of radical socialist federal government telling me when and if I can get medical care for myself or a sick family member…. I say.. screw decorum. Bradley was a media hyped tool of the left and deserved ugly derision. Boxer is not simply an idiot, she’s an evil, corrupt, egotistical, Constitution hating idiot. And she’s ugly.

    They told us that decorum adds value to the debate. Two hundred and fifty years ago, they told the British military to wear bright red uniforms and march in straight lines, in the open, while the American revolutionaries wore camoulflage and hid behind trees. They are always around with good advice. They told us to put up McCain in 2008.

    They can kiss my… well, you get my drift.

  • larueladue

    I was raised to believe that we are all equals: no one, no matter what position they hold in government, or how rich they are, or how poor they are, is due more respect than you would give to anyone else; be they the President, a Senator, or the local school custodian. They are all to be accorded the same respect.

    We were supposed to have left this sort of behavior behind over 200 years ago.

    Arguments and discussions like this highlight the creeping return of some sort aristocracy to this country, and that is more disturbing to me than a lot of the turmoil going on right now. Some form of tyranny most always follows when a few are accorded more respect and power over others, solely due to family, money or position in government.

  • larueladue

    A short-term return of dueling and true recognition of honor would do this country some good… and might eliminate some plainly evil people….

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  • farstar99

    So it will come down to who has the most money, and support from the RNC, so they can win over the huge undecided block.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    DeVore isn’t going to win a media battle, attack or defense. He needs two things:

    1. Boxer needs to do poorly. She’s already gotten a start on that.

    2. DeVore needs a fired up base. That’s a big part of what his travel is about. These aren’t going to sway the undecided middle. They won’t decide for another 10 months. But he can start getting Republicans ready to fight for him.

    DeVore has a better chance to win than Fiorina simply because of #2. She’s never going to get anybody fired up for her, plus she won’t be able to play the poor widdle victim card in the general, so she’ll have no traction of any kind.

  • sharonmcp

    after all, they did give us Michele Bachmann in Congress.

    As for Senator Franken, the man literally makes me nauseous.

  • eburke

    Seriously, Norm blew this race when he decided to support the TARP package (it was surreal to watch Al “I’m a Commie” Franken actually run to Norm’s *right* on this and oppose it). Norm was already skating on thin ice with the base in MN for his decidedly moderate stance on many issues and this one pushed just enough conservatives over the edge that they decided to stay home or vote for the Independent. (that, and Norm’s refusal to get down and dirty while we watched ACORN lackey SOS Ritchie steal the election)

    I know one of Norm’s staffers quite well and he’s in Norm’s ‘moderate’ mold and *he* even admits that that’s what cost Coleman the election.

    Hmmm….I wonder if there’s a lesson in there for our Republican ‘leaders’ about the consequences of being ‘pale pastels’ instead of ‘bold colors.’

    Nah!