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Tim Gill’s Merry Band Failed in New York.

And the New York Senate Has a New Media Director With Some Explaining to Do.

You may remember Tim Gill from this Atlantic Monthly profile. Gill is the multi-millionaire gay man who helped fund the left’s take over of Colorado.

Gill is playing for keeps and gay marriage. He funds local races and state legislative races to get legislatures to pass gay marriage without the consent of the voters. He keeps a low profile, bundles with lots of donors to obfuscate what is happening, and tries to elect people who sound conservative in their races, but then push the gay agenda once in office.

He hit a brick wall in New York last week.

It seems clear the gay rights crowd had paid off several state legislators for their votes, but were then betrayed by those legislators.

On the email list, Lane Hudson (the guy who held on to and then blew up right before the election, the Mark Foley story) emailed out this:


Folks:

I’m pasting below a message sent to another list serve from the online outreach director from the NY State Senate. I thought each of you would appreciate the intelligence.

Best,
Lane

Forwarded Message:

Hey, folks.

Big news. The long stalled NY Senate bill (it’s passed the Assembly twice and the Gov is eager to sign) extending full marriage rights to same sex couples will be brought to the floor today, debated extensively and almost certainly passed (with a handful of GOP votes.) At the NYS Senate, we’ve been working through the holiday to get ready for this and will be streaming the entire debate live at NYSenate.gov. (We’ll be doing live commentary at the albany project as well for those outside of NY who may want to know what all that debating actually means.)

The long and the short of it is that we’ve been told that they have the votes to pass the the thing and, unlike CA and ME, there ain’t gonna be a round two in NY.

Some helpful links:

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/api/html/bill/S4401 (link to the actual bill on our spiffy new Open Legislation site, comments enabled, btw.)

http://www.nysenate.gov/initiative/marriage-equality (special page for all things marriage equality, will become the actual front page of the site when the trigger gets pulled. Will be live shortly.)

http://www.nysenate.gov/blogs/2009/nov/30/watch-senate-debate-marriage-equality (blog with a video viewer and comments. will be live shortly.)

thealbanyproject.com (your source for all the commentary and analysis I can’t do on the Senate site.)

http://www.thealbanyproject.com/diary/7641/marriage-equality-debate-and-vote-tonight-will-it-pass (A whip count of where we are )

We’re going all out on this one. We’ve got multiple video streams of the debate, multiple places to comment on the bill and the proceedings and I’ll be livetweeting the debate for the Senate as @NYSenate. (We’ll be using the #NYMarriageDebate hashtag)

They are going to allow the full four hours of debate on the bill and then each member (there are 62) will be allowed 2 minutes each to explain their vote. I imagine that most of not all will take advantage of that. TAP will be doing a running tally of votes during this time so we should know pretty close to the exact count before the vote is actually taken.

It’s going to be a big day here in NY. Hope you all will tune in.

Fingers crossed,

-phillip [Anderson]

Sounds like the online outreach director for the New York State Senate, who is supposed to work for the Senate, not just the Democrat Senators, was more than a little invested in this. Note that he was supposed to no longer be writing at the left-wing “Albany Project”, but admits in the email that he is still writing there.

But then there is this email from Lane:

I’m sure most of you already know that we lost in the NY Senate 24-38. Not even close. Only one ‘undecided’ vote picked up. I’m not good at math, but it seems as if 7 Democrats voted no and 0 Republicans voted yes.

Lane

And then this very interesting one from Jeff Campagna of a gay rights activists group called “The Power”:

8 voted no and from what I’m hearing Gill and HRC backed two of them with the assurance they would vote with us. Can Gill or HRC confirm whether or not they were given such assurances?

Jeff Campagna
www.ThePowerOnline.org

In fact, it looks like Gill had funded several of the legislators and saw some of them betray him.

I wonder if New York voters, along with voters in Virginia and elsewhere that have seen Gill’s money leverage leftists in the legislature, are paying attention. A gaggle of gay men and lesbians are funneling money into state legislative races in attempts to impose gay marriage on citizens without their vote, either through bought and paid for legislators or, more troubling, judges.

COMMENTS

  • fisk2521

    As a New York State resident I am personally offended by a very small minority completely altering EVERYONE’S way of life in order to justify their own. It doesn’t matter that an overwhelming majority of people in NY and in the world for that matter support marriage between a man and a woman,based not just on the Bible, but on science and nature.

    Personal lifestyle is one’s own busines, and that includes those that oppose gay marriage.

    I support and am grateful to those like Mike Nozzolio who voted NO.

  • noufa

    They portray him as riding a wave of national discontent against “homophobic” Republicans. Not true.

    Here’s a better bio on Gill from Katherine Kersten of The Star-Tribune:

    http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentary/46495682.html

    Gill is a slimeball. Not because he supports gay marriage, reasonable people can disagree on that issue. But Gill won’t confront politicians directly about the marriage issue. He’s taking them out with dishonest personal attacks. And because he’s hiding behind 527 groups, he’ll never be held accountable for his lies.

    Thank you, John McCain.

  • seandparnell

    I’ve got to voice a dissenting view here on Gill and his donations. Frankly some of the language here is what I’d expect from the John McCain “money in politics is bad, let’s have reform!” crowd.

    Legislators “impose” things all the time without a direct vote of the people – that’s the whole purpose of a legislature, after all. And the people most assuredly did vote on whether or not to send those specific legislators off to Albany.

    And the money angle – well, Gill is a U.S. citizen, just like Bob Perry (major funder of the Swift Boat Vets group), and therefore entitled to give his money to any political candidate or cause he pleases, even those that some find noxious. The “bought and paid for” obviously isn’t true either – they took Gill’s money, they may indeed have said things that led him to believe they would support his agenda, but they clearly didn’t.

    I fear that this commentary is just more fuel for the fire of the “we have to get money out of politics” crowd.

    Sean Parnell
    President
    Center for Competitive Politics
    http://www.campaignfreedom.org

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    I am against Campaign Finance ‘reform’, but I am for calling out the money-men who are trying to buy votes and issues. Gill operates like Soros, and those who are bought by him need to be identified as such.

    As for losing those 8 Dems they thought they bought, Gill can get in line behind the 100 million other folks who got lied to by politicians.

  • seandparnell

    I think you underestimate. ;->

    You may not favor “reform” (good!), but your argument sure does support it – contributions to pols buy their votes, etc. Fortunately the bulk of academic research shows this not to be the case.

    Sean Parnell
    President
    Center for Competitive Politics
    http://www.campaignfreedom.org

  • Marcus_Traianus

    Well NY, you voted against so-called “Gay Marriage” how about you get rid of Nancy Pelosi’s right hand man John Hall? He does not represent NY-19 any more than Reid-Obama-Pelosi.

    These are the same forces that defeated Sue Kelly. Is this what you want for your family and future? Doubt it.

    Hall is vulnerable. Let’s make sure this does not go unnoticed.

  • Third Street

    Who would have guessed?

  • mostlygood

    and you’re right. he’s extremly passive aggressive – he uses politics as his own personal sociological experiment. in fact, he tracks huge numbers of gay voter’s info PERSONALLY using the connexion.org website. one has to wonder what he’s doing with all of that information!

    if it makes you feel any better, nobody in colorado takes him seriously anymore. he is the wrong kind of chickenhawk – you should ask the 60 year old’s 24 year old “husband”

  • JakePrime

    “attempts to impose gay marriage on citizens without their vote”

    We don’t do the proposition thing in NY. Legislators, who have all been elected by the people, represent our interests. If they had passed gay marriage in NY, it would have been as close to a reflection of the people’s will as it gets. They didn’t, and the same holds true.

    In addition, Gill has obviously failed to influence the outcome, whether by money (which is actually an argument in support of finance reform) or some other means. I don’t really see the issue here.

  • Leopard1996

    It appears that the Dems and Libs did a good job on us with that, by screaming haliburton, haliburton, haliburton over and over again. If a Soros, whose only goal is to destroy this country is throwing money at politician X, shouldn’t we hang that connection on Politician x’s neck.

  • seandparnell

    Just don’t be surprised when the “reformers” seize on your charges to further gut the First Amendment.

    Sean Parnell
    President
    Center for Competitive Politics
    http://www.campaignfreedom.org

  • dahlby

    The issue is that the NYS legislature is not suppose to use their office like Lane did to promote their agendas on the tax payer dime and that the lame stream media is not covering anything that might upset the looney left.

    It is good to see that the legislature of NYS was not intimidated by this group and that maybe, just maybe, the rest of the country can start having some faith that the people of New York aren’t a bunch of lemmings!

  • Marcus_Traianus
  • Leopard1996

    So you think calling out on the carpet that Candidate X is taking money from Corrupt Y, that is going to lead to people wanting to throw the baby out with the bathwater, instead of people thinking, “If this candidate is going to take money from Y, then he doesn’t get my vote.”

    I think we should shine the light huge on the bad money, especially considering that we are constantly demonized, as the party of the rich, even though dems represent the wealthiest districts in the U.S.