While Americans are fixated on the weekend blizzard and the health care debate, the rest of the world is fixated on the disastrous “climate change” talks in Copenhagen.
More importantly, though world leaders could not agree on much of anything significant, they could all agree on one thing: Barack Obama screwed up a delicate situation and unintentionally sunk the deal.
For a man who is supposed to be a brilliant speaker and skilled diplomat, leaders from London to Beijing are openly blaming Obama for screwing up Copenhagen. About the only thing good anyone can say about his performance is that he left early.
Seriously.
Former British Deputy Prime Minister and current Member of Parliament John Prescott wrote in the Observer, “President Obama’s speech blaming China didn’t help.”
What was that? It appears Obama tried to bully China into accepting Obama’s vision that nation-states are meaningless and every nation should act in the interests of one world.
“For the Chinese, this was our sovereignty and our national interest,” said Xie Zhenhua, head of China’s delegation.
Oops.
Then there was Obama’s “commitment” to help the third world with $10 billion. That made even his friend Hugo Chavez mad. It also made a lot of other third world nations mad.
Obama miscalculated like the amateur he is.
Vladimir
Aaron Gardner
Neil Stevens
Leon Wolf
Jeff Emanuel
Chinese were insulted at Obama's
redneck_hippie Saturday, December 19th at 9:37PM EST (link)insistence on international verification of emissions cuts.
PS typo in headline - speechifying.
“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
Remember NY-23; translation: RINOs Have No Base.
He forgot his TOTUS at home
honorable Saturday, December 19th at 9:40PM EST (link)He forgot his Teleprompter of the US (TOTUS) at home.
Obama Admin Lets Go 12 Gitmo Detainees To Their Home
louesc Monday, December 21st at 4:07AM EST (link)The Obama administration has transferred 12 Guantanamo Bay detainees to their home countries in Yemen, Afghanistan and the Somaliland region, despite concerns that many former prisoners are returning to terrorism. What a great Christmas gift to the terrorist who want to get back in the field to Kill our Brave Men and Women. I can’t wait for 2010 and 2012. Check out this video and pass it on.
https://www.americanpatriotsprevail.com/Obama_Lets_Go12_Terroist.html
Reject Tyranny and Defend Liberty!
I try not...
lunarmanathome Saturday, December 19th at 9:41PM EST (link)to listen to the Amateur-In-Chief as his speeches are about delivery, not content. I actually caught his DopenHagen one though - and I’m glad that I did as it confirmed, to at least me, that his speeches of late have degraded in terms of positive impact.
He was angry and his speech came across as such. I also didn’t “feel” his commitment to what he spoke, just as the disaster of his speech at West Point wrt Afghanistan.
He somehow thought that his election to office here conveyed something special on the world stage. Without some actual principle and achievement - the empty suit that he really does represent - he is nothing. That bodes ill for us as a nation, until we vote him out.
According to AP, the one was also an uninvited co-conspirator
SoFiMil Saturday, December 19th at 9:45PM EST (link)He.Has.A.Gift. …Of.Arrogance.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ge2OqwkoIhobJajPjIvUmAToARJgD9CMLVD00
http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
He may have been one helluva community organizer...
Vladimir Saturday, December 19th at 9:54PM EST (link)…but our rookie president hasn’t shown the sense to make a decent middle manager for an average American corporation.
He’s never made a payroll. He never made an investment & had to be accountable for the results.
His negotiating skills didn’t even have to be too sharp because he was backed up by one of the most corrupt and thuggish political machines in the country.
But he can read a mean TelePrompTer.
There is no opinion, however absurd, which men will not readily embrace as soon as they can be brought to the conviction that it is generally adopted. - Arthur Schopenhauer
Only an imbecile would believe the Chinese
redneck_hippie Saturday, December 19th at 10:03PM EST (link)would act against their national interest. This is where ideology is failing TTDP. He thinks it’s 1900 and that global communism will ensue due to the failure of capitalism. Or he doesn’t believe his own bs and is just having fun pretending.
“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
Remember NY-23; translation: RINOs Have No Base.
It's also because the Chinese know
anotherindyfilmguy Saturday, December 19th at 10:41PM EST (link)what a fraud the whole deal is and are upset to not be using it to cripple the West economically instead. If they were as smart as given credit for they’d say “yes” to get everyone else on board and then do as they please…
They would, except Obama insisted on
redneck_hippie Saturday, December 19th at 10:46PM EST (link)international verification of the emissions cuts (no cheating).
“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
Remember NY-23; translation: RINOs Have No Base.
And the Chinese reaction wasn't limited to Copenhagen
Jeffrey Malbis (malbis) Saturday, December 19th at 11:10PM EST (link)I wonder what China’s Premier was talking privately about with the leaders of Brazil and India before Obama and Clinton brust in unannounced and uninvited to that private meeting (as Reuters reported)? Ways to get around the verification issue, perhaps?
I also think it isn’t a coincidence that a Chinese Central Bank official yesterday said that China was not going to continue to buy American debt because our deficit was too high and we weren’t buying as much from China anymore.
They have been buying less Treasuries for several months, but the timing of that announcement seemed to coincide both with the final push for the ObamaCare bill–and with Obama’s Copenhagen speech.. The U.S. economy is going to take a huge hit next year if China doesn’t continue to buy Treasury notes–we have about 4 trillion dollars in new spending and roll-over of notes that we need to sell at the lowest interest rate possible.
Obama might have done a lot more harm to our country in Copenhagen than any of us realize yet.
From the 1940 feature film Ghost Breakers, starring the late, great, Bob Hope and Paulette Goddard:
Scientist: “It’s worse than horrible, because a Zombie has no will of his own. You see them some times, walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring.”
Bob Hope: “You mean, like Democrats?”
Obama a "skilled diplomat"?? HAHAHAHAHAH!!!
scottbomb Saturday, December 19th at 9:58PM EST (link)He’s more diplomatic gaffes than any president I can remember in my relatively short (37 year) lifetime.
And he never was a good speaker. All the man can do is read a telepromter.
The man’s a puppet and it seems to me that he’s got too many puppeteers trying to control the strings.
By screwing up, Obama may have just done something GOOD for America - for a change!
http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Something good indeed.
LDahl752 Sunday, December 20th at 9:00AM EST (link)I was thinking the same thing. We finally have reason to applaud his ineptitude…. unless this leads to aggression from China, like towards Taiwan? Let’s hope that isn’t the next “international crisis.”
Linda D, Henderson NV
Look to the cookies.
shadowtax Saturday, December 19th at 10:02PM EST (link)What is it about Copenhagen that makes Barrack Obama fail? First it was the Olympics. Now it is the climate treaty.
There is only one possibility: Danish butter cookies are Obama kryptonite.
I think it’s time to throw a Danish Butter Cookie Party!
That’s all I got…
Or send him a can of Copenhagen
scottbomb Sunday, December 20th at 1:23PM EST (link)(The tobacco, that is.)
http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Ever see a school yard bully get his comeuppance?
USNJIMRET Saturday, December 19th at 10:31PM EST (link)Pity the poor fool that said bully next targets.
In this case, the bully is Nobama, who, until very recently (interestingly enough, in Copenhagen) had rarely tasted defeat, and certainly not on so public an International stage.
The comeuppance? Total diss by the Commie Chinese.
THe next target/victim?
The poor American taxpayer.
We are so very, VERY screwed.
Actually I don't mind
anotherindyfilmguy Saturday, December 19th at 10:39PM EST (link)seeing everyone in the world use the O as a scapegoat for failing to get a consensus through on one of the most massive frauds to be shoved onto mankind in the annals of history… it’s a double plus good thing…
“For the Chinese, this was our sovereignty and
joayn Saturday, December 19th at 10:41PM EST (link)our national interest,” said Xie Zhenhua, head of China’s delegation.
Does anyone else find this statement ironic? When the leader of the free world is advocating the destruction of his own nation, the COMMUNIST CHINESE make the absolutely correct decision in this matter.
I have never understood, nor will I ever understand, the complete admiration and slobbering love affair (best phrase I’ve ever heard, thanks Bernie) that the Europeans had for his “style”. All I see is the biggest fraud of the 21st century.
After all is said and done, his biggest accomplishment will be the complete destruction of the Democrat party and the progressive movement in America. And I honestly, honestly would not be surprised if he manages to get himself impeached.
When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
Ronald Reagan
Obama is an idiot.
snowshooze Saturday, December 19th at 10:49PM EST (link)Yep, he blew it big-time. Jacking Chinese Premier Wen was as stupid as it gets.
Of coarse…Wen just got done saying that there might be better places to invest money now…that didn’t take long to come home.
It’s ok, they are Commies anyhow, but we are so far in debt to them it’s crazy.
I guess if you run around talking Democracy and borrowing from Communists…it sort of waters down the legitimacy a bit..
Our country should not be allowed to go into debt at all.
Now we are so sunk that we might not even get out alive.
The good news is everyone kicks Obama’s tail.
Well, except us. He is a laughing stock…
Kinda reminds me of “Ted” on Mary Hartman…
Yeah, well, he just might get impeached as it is the easiest way to dispense with him…then we would have Biden? He would be easier to handle. Biden IS just one heart beat away from Presidency…
plans are being made now to move him out...
larryp Sunday, December 20th at 10:06AM EST (link)Obama was only a two year deal anyway. So the guys running the show will find a job for him/create a job like “Premier ofthe European Union” and off he will go. Biden will leave to “spend time wit his family” and the Speaker of the House will be named President.
Obama doesn’t wear well. He is literally a two-trick pony, to wit connive on race and talk fancy. He does not know anything and other than deep anger etc can offer nothing next.
larryp- Unless you have credible links proving that
Scope Sunday, December 20th at 10:27AM EST (link)they are working to move Obama out in 2 years, your idea is prepostrous. Pelosi would be even a bigger disaster than Obama. If Obama is doing so badly why would they replace him with someone worse, and just as if not more so hated by the public.
I absolutely see H. Clinton running in 2012 either against him, or fto fill his seat if he steps down. Obama said himself that he would step aside in 2012 if the people were not happy with the job he’s doing. Duhhh! You can only prop up a fraud for so long, and, with Obama it took less than a year. He is imploding, but, so is the Liberal majority in Congress. Their approval rating is much lower than even the fearless leaders.
And You'd Believe Obama?
damron Monday, December 21st at 8:56AM EST (link)He hasn’t told the truth yet, he’s still campaigning and lieing everyday! That’s part of the job description of a community organizer, or did someone fail to tell you that? I always loathed the Clintons but I think she wouldn’t have been nearly as bad as this clown! He really is buying all this socialist crap and thinks we are going to sit back and let him do it. The Ameican people are a lotta things but we are not dumb! We will fight to protect our Freedom, bring it on!
Damright
I think this is silliness
streiff Sunday, December 20th at 11:12AM EST (link)Absent a Vietnam like revolt in the Democrat party, Obama will run again in 2012.
Want to let us in on who “the guys running the show” are?
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
Your tense is wrong, streiff.
Socrates Monday, December 21st at 7:11AM EST (link)He never stopped running in 2008.
His numbers among Democrats are still sky high. They like him. No one could beat him in the primaries, or even get the money to try.
He’s counting on the economy coming back by 2012, but I don’t see how it can.
In the end, he’s going to get walloped. But there’s a ton of damage he can do as a lame duck who doesn’t give a cluck.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
I should have added 'in my opinion'...
larryp Monday, December 21st at 12:33PM EST (link)and not gone off speechifyin’
I find it ironic. The Chinese spoke of nationalism...
Veronica Estrada Saturday, December 19th at 11:29PM EST (link).. and we have people in the WH who have shiown nothing but disdain for this country and its founding principles.
I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.
- John Adams
You get what you vote for
kmacwayne Saturday, December 19th at 10:47PM EST (link)Thank you to all my friends who voted for this man - will you please take your bag of peanuts and join us in the gallery now?
I no longer have any friends who voted for Obama...
MacAoidh Saturday, December 19th at 10:57PM EST (link)…I got rid of everyone I could find who did.
I won’t even be civil to them when I find one. And it’s everything I can do not to run over the ones I see on the road who have Obama bumper stickers.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
Mac, who needs friends anyway?
proudmarinemom Saturday, December 19th at 11:54PM EST (link)I cannot even speak to people who have old “DEM” stickers on their cars. The ones with Obama stickers — well, the old potato-in-the-tailpipe trick provides a little poetic justice.
The Dead To Me list includes family members and former close friends. Their intellectual laziness, their refusal to read anything other than the WaPo/HuffPo daily excrement, their snobbery, their superiority over anyone connected to the military and their fabulous selfishness is more than I can take. One of them sat at my Thanksgiving table (couldn’t avoid it — my idiot relative married him) and told me I better get my passport ready if I don’t want to live in a socialist country.
He went on with more enlightening conversation about the evil insurance companies or something, but my eyes had glazed over as I fantasized as to how far I could get a turkey leg down his throat before the police could get there to restrain me. When I snapped out of it, he was asking for more pie.
I am quite proud of the fact that I resisted the urge to kill him. Go me.
“Some moms spend their entire lives wondering if smacking their sons up the side of the head ever made a difference. Marine Moms don’t have that problem.”
Sounds like he..
audax Sunday, December 20th at 8:10AM EST (link)..needed a marinemom smack upside the head AND A BOOT OUT THE DOOR ALONG WITH THE RELATIVE WHO MARRIED HIM….? Imagine…AT YOUR THANKSGIVING TABLE???? No Manners…typical LIB.
Killing him wouldn't help
LDahl752 Sunday, December 20th at 9:09AM EST (link)but I’m proud of you, too, proudmarinemom.
Is there a way to torture him without being detected? LOL!
Can we devise some ideas to make his life as miserable as we all will be soon?
Seriously, I’m beginning to feel the same way. I don’t want to be around anyone who voted for this moron — especially those I tried to educate last year. There are the uninformed, inattentive, celebrity-focused dimwits that I had no opportunity to influence; but, my friends and family who heard it and chose to ignore it are pretty much gone from my circle. So be it. I just cannot be civil any longer.
Linda D, Henderson NV
I have a suggestion for how to handle that...
MacAoidh Sunday, December 20th at 9:39AM EST (link)…you very calmly explain to him, or someone like him, that the American people will never tolerate the kind of government he’s talking about and if they get what they want, they’ll preside over a bloodbath.
Then ask him if he’s willing to die for socialism - because our side, when push comes to shove, is willing to kill and die for freedom.
When you tell them this, they will call you a nut - but they will know you’re not someone to be trifled with. It tends to shut down conversations like the one you had to deal with.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
A great hand for MacAoidh!!
damron Monday, December 21st at 9:09AM EST (link)You are right on Mr. Hayride! Liberals talk a good game mostly BS but when it comes to backing most of their suff up they cannot! Most are ashamed and probably squint when they look in the mirror. I have no use for them period!
They are not even second class citizens, they are worse! Want something for nothing, want a handout, redistribute welfare (that’s a nice way of saying taking my money!) I have a hard time with my temper and lots of times I have to be held back (have a little military in me) or I’d knock a few teeth out of these stupid AHs. Thank goodness for a few friends that calm me down at times!We need to get our conservative/Republican issues straightened out so we can go about kicking them out in 2010 and 2012. Most folks think Obama cannot be beat but I think he can. He has screwed up so much in the first year he cannot possibly get it all straightened out by 2012. God Bless Our Country.
Damright
Next time just think of
anotherindyfilmguy Sunday, December 20th at 11:15AM EST (link)how he’ll be (if) when the majority is gone from the house and senate and the rollbacks begin against our current brush with tyranny. His head will be imploding and all mushy and ripe for answers as to “why” his side failed…
I am happy he failed in Copenhagen
antisocial Saturday, December 19th at 11:50PM EST (link)I am curious if there was any groundwork. How did it fail? Did the President know the reality of negotiations? If he did why did he go? If he did not know why is the incompetent staff being tolerated? Either ways that is EPIC FAIL.
I was reading a book authored by John Bolton “Surrender Is Not An Option” for the last 1 week. He describes in detail how negotiations work out in UN. And how they are lost and won. I gather there is lot of hard work behind the scenes. From what we witness, I don’t see any indication of that going on here.
You know what Harry Reid’s campaign slogan is? Vote for me or my wife gets beat up. - Rush Limbaugh
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What is to be done?
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No. You can’t - Moe Lane
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We shall fight in the air, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, we shall fight in the hills — for 18 months. Then we start packing for home. - Charles Krauthammer
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
Also China may have done US a BIG favor
antisocial Saturday, December 19th at 11:57PM EST (link)by throwing this in garbage can.
You know what Harry Reid’s campaign slogan is? Vote for me or my wife gets beat up. - Rush Limbaugh
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What is to be done?
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No. You can’t - Moe Lane
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We shall fight in the air, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, we shall fight in the hills — for 18 months. Then we start packing for home. - Charles Krauthammer
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
Apparently the Chinese believe in American
throwback59 Sunday, December 20th at 12:23AM EST (link)sovereignty more than Obama does.
Ashen
ashen Sunday, December 20th at 12:39AM EST (link)National strike 20 JAN 2010. Pass it on.
why???? <nt>
gekster Sunday, December 20th at 12:48AM EST (link)A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan
Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.
ashan. if you are
gekster Sunday, December 20th at 2:02AM EST (link)1.telling us: or
2.calling for:
A National strike 20 JAN 2010.
Why are we going to do this, and what are we going to do?
A political party cannot be all things to all people.
It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.
Ronald Reagan
Every deer hunter in Michigan still likes to take a shot at a squirrel, rabbit, or even a troll every now and then.
Troll alert nt
proudmarinemom Sunday, December 20th at 7:17AM EST (link)“Some moms spend their entire lives wondering if smacking their sons up the side of the head ever made a difference. Marine Moms don’t have that problem.”
Being President is Hard...
HokiePundit Sunday, December 20th at 2:07AM EST (link)And with this, President Obama falls to one-for-three in getting what he came for in Scandinavian countries.
BREAKING: Healthcare passed...
OccamsRazor Sunday, December 20th at 3:03AM EST (link)No 2nd term, BO. Muhahhaha.
They knew he was a one termer
Karina Sunday, December 20th at 5:49AM EST (link)That’s why they HAVE to get as much legislation passed as they can to get the progressive/socialist structure set up inside the system. Collapse the system and who is pres doesn’t matter. They must pass it all before the mid term elections though.
Obama has his sights on bigger global things. The US presidency is just a stepping stone.
Don’t look at O, look at the people around him.
“Let me give you my vision: A man’s right to work as he will, to spend what he earns, to own property, to have the state as servant and not as master. These are the British inheritance. They are the essence of a free country, and on that freedom all of our other freedoms depend.” -Margaret Thatcher
If "O" is so hot...
audax Sunday, December 20th at 8:18AM EST (link)..on the International Stage…why is he such a failure at everything he does Internationally??
That is the key
partyof1 Sunday, December 20th at 9:10AM EST (link)Because on the international stage, people don’t like Obama, they like what he represents. First black president. One-worlder, apologizer for America, Not Bush, proponent of American un-exceptionalism, ect.
They are only just now looking past the facade to see a babe in the woods who is arrogant and petty to boot. Look at what he’s done. Sarkozy: snubbed, Merkel: snubbed, Brown: snubbed, Chinese president: insulted.
Obama has nothing except to throw a fit when he doesn’t get his way. He’s been spoiled by the kid glove treatment from the US media.
Haven’t we all seen the pursed lips, furrowed brow, and my PERSONAL favorite, the “now I’ve had just about enough” tone of voice that seeks to cow us with it’s terseness, but is really just a means to hide his own fear. China threw that right back in his face and damn good for them.
That's true for the international stage, but
aelie Sunday, December 20th at 11:30AM EST (link)Looking from the polls, the number of people who blindly support Obama really isn’t going down. Rest of the nation is now waking up, but those hardcore supporters will cheer for him while he drags down our nation. I believe that’s because they are blind to everything and can’t think on their own. But the cynic in me says that’s the real purpose of hardcore Obama supporters.
Democrats blamed Bush for being a polarizing figure. The way things are going, Obama will split the country. My hope is that he ends up completely marginalizing those on the far-left before too much damage is done.
The good news about collapsing the system...
MacAoidh Sunday, December 20th at 9:42AM EST (link)…is that all sides may compete to install a new one. And there are no guarantees as to who wins that competition.
Check out MacAoidh’s commentary on Louisiana and national politics at TheHayride.com
No, there won't be any competiton
Karina Sunday, December 20th at 12:24PM EST (link)The new structure started with TARP, continued in the stimulus, strengthened by smaller bills slipped under the radar to be finished with healthcare and cap and trade. Parts of healthcare were in the stimulus written by SEIU. They have long term goals which are 100 years in the making. They see this as their time and won’t let anyone get in their way.
We must keep an eye on both of their hands. They are very adept at making people watch one while the other takes more of our freedoms. We need a czar check up. While everyone is focusing on healthcare (and I know it’s viital that we do) what else is going on?
“Let me give you my vision: A man’s right to work as he will, to spend what he earns, to own property, to have the state as servant and not as master. These are the British inheritance. They are the essence of a free country, and on that freedom all of our other freedoms depend.” -Margaret Thatcher
I am not a politician or political science Ph.D
Leopard1996 Sunday, December 20th at 7:37AM EST (link)But I realize that China is finally seeing themselves on the world stage as a power player, and Obama wants to attempt to tell them to give up their soverignty to have a bunch of Western round eyes monitor them. Of course China is going to tell Obama and others in the international community to go screw.
Wish our leaders had the same set of standards to ask why would we want some arabs, africans, frenchies, etc monitoring what the hell we do.
“The accumluated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, “Save Us!”….and I’ll look down and whisper, “No”…The Watchmen
they would probabaly be ok with it
kyle8 Sunday, December 20th at 8:16AM EST (link)This bunch in power now do not even like their own country and are all for giving away every dime of taxpayer money to people who hate us.
But I don’t just blame the lefties. We have also had plenty of republicans over the years who were too ready to bribe other nations with taxpayer money to be our friends.
After sixty years of such a policy I see no evidence that it has worked.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
You do have a point there.
Leopard1996 Sunday, December 20th at 10:35AM EST (link)I don’t know, I think I would rather have the president that the world hates, but would fear because that president was too much of a cowboy and actually do things in the interest of their country.
“The accumluated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, “Save Us!”….and I’ll look down and whisper, “No”…The Watchmen
Leopard1996- The Chinese don't just see themselves as power players
Scope Sunday, December 20th at 10:55AM EST (link)they are power players. They have bought so much American debt, they have a big say in what happens here in the US. What happens if they call in that debt now? Either we renage, or start handing them American assets, ones that have not already been used as collateral. If we renage, no one will ever buy any American debt for decades. If we give them assets, we will become the China of the West, with China leading this country. Obama’s insignificant and faltering role in Copenhagen was the Chinese way of saying to him- Where do you get the nerve and/or arrogance to demand that we do anything you tell us we must. Obama and the Liberals are still hell bent on spending massive amounts of money that we don’t have, with Healthcare being the most significant, to date. I would say that whatever time Obama had with any Chinese reps, or their leader privately, if that happened at all, the words from the Chinese were probably toxic. I think with Obama’s low approval ratings, the Liberal Congressional approval ratings, the majority of the public being against most if not all of his policies, and watching himself mocked on the international stage, worldwide it seems, he and his comrades will move in even more destructive ways. They know their time is short.
After the 2010 elections, if they are even allowed, hopefully new Republican majorities will move to impeach this fraud, and work to undue the damage done by the Communists.
I dont think it is possible to "call in the debt"
kyle8 Sunday, December 20th at 11:12AM EST (link)They own government securities that have a fixed redemption date. All they could do is sell the debt in the open market.
That would of course cause a lot of problems as it would flood the market and reduce the value of new government debt. But that is going to happen anyway because this debt is unsustainable.
You might say that it is we who have them over the barrel as our actions are resulting in the devaluing of their assets.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
It is possible that
anotherindyfilmguy Sunday, December 20th at 11:22AM EST (link)If China tries a move on Taiwan we could declare a state of war with them and declare all holdings owned by China forfeit and freeze all accounts here and nullify any scrap of paper they have regarding debt from the US. After the Navy has it out with whatever the Chinese throw at Taiwan we could negotiate a “lasting peace” where China leaves Taiwan alone and/or recognizes any referendum about rejoining (or more likely not) China as valid and then leaves them alone.
Comrade Obama won't lift a finger if China attacks Taiwan.
Achance Sunday, December 20th at 11:50AM EST (link)Maybe, just maybe, if the Chinese foolishly fire on a US ship or aircraft in the area and it defends itself, the situation will be too developed for his natural communist inclinations to take over. Otherwise, he’ll think it is just fine for Taiwan to be restored to its rightful owner and take its proper place in the World Socialist Order. I think Taiwan has at most weeks to live after Comrade Obama’s re-election in ‘12.
In Vino Veritas
China has been buying up other things
Karina Sunday, December 20th at 12:30PM EST (link)Tangible goods, mines, and gold while lowering the amount of dollars they own because they know this is coming. I think they are willing to risk a certain amount and still be able to sit pretty after a US crash.
I absolutely don’t believe it is us who have them over a barrel. It’s us instead. We are the ones about to lose our credit rating, not them.
“Let me give you my vision: A man’s right to work as he will, to spend what he earns, to own property, to have the state as servant and not as master. These are the British inheritance. They are the essence of a free country, and on that freedom all of our other freedoms depend.” -Margaret Thatcher
Karina- I also don't believe we have China over a barrel
Scope Sunday, December 20th at 1:47PM EST (link)We are not devaluing their assets. We are devaluing ours.
Karina- I also don't believe we have China over a barrel
Scope Sunday, December 20th at 1:47PM EST (link)We are not devaluing their assets. We are devaluing ours.
I'm puzzled
RedBeard Sunday, December 20th at 7:47AM EST (link)Weren’t we shown, in great detail during the campaign, that Obama was completely lacking in any sort of administrative experience, and therefore frighteningly unqualified for this job? I could have sworn we all knew that. And yet, more than half the voters seemed to be unaware of the fact. Very puzzling, indeed.
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the election was never about Obama
kyle8 Sunday, December 20th at 8:18AM EST (link)it was about repudiating Bush, and being “historical” by electing the first black president. Honestly that pretty much explains the vote of nearly all of the swing voters.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Yep
RedBeard Sunday, December 20th at 8:27AM EST (link)The middle-of-the-road doofusses earned my undying disgust for their incredible foolishness last November.
If they want to exercise their ignorance by standing in the middle of the road and getting run over, fine; but dragging the rest of the country out there in the path of that big Freightliner is not acceptable.
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The election was
anotherindyfilmguy Sunday, December 20th at 11:24AM EST (link)all about a “tingly legged media” showing off how far they could skew things to the detriment of everyone else despite any and all facts to the contrary. The only plus side is the MSM tanked their credibility in the eyes of many more than before falling over the O.
Half the Country Cannot Read!
damron Monday, December 21st at 9:50AM EST (link)More than half this Country cannot read or comprehend what they hear on TV, etc. They only want to hear what they want to anyway, most are brainwashed, a lot voted for $5.00 from Acorn and some of them got more than a five dollar bill. Lotta crookedry going on in this Country. Why do you think he is re-doing the Census and took it away from the other cabinet department and it’s being done now in the White House by Chicago politicians? We have a lot of Patriots in this Country but we all have a lotta DAs that cannot think for themselves. They are like sheep that can be herded to the voting booth and you know the rest of the story. Do you think the election in Minnesota was done fairly is a good example. They have a plan and so far it’s worked. They have ACORN, the Unions, the Media, and wait, pretty soon they will have all the illegals voting for them to because that’s their next big trick, Amnesty!
Damright
Defending Obama at Copenhagen. Too bad the Euros are upset.
archer52 Sunday, December 20th at 8:12AM EST (link)As much as I think Obama is a dangerous President.- as much as I think he is a cardboard cutout propped up by those even more dangerous to America- as much as I think he is a walking, talking, basketball shooting bundle of ego and radical leftist agendas- I’m going to not get excited about the left in Europe being upset at his “failure” to do something in Copenhagen. Do what exactly? Give away our economy to some third world sh**hole? Send trillions of our dollars to someone else? Cripple our way of life to enrich Soros and Gore?
No. If GWB had gone to Copenhagen and said basically the same thing the left here would have went blind scratching their own eyes out from madness. Yet, blaming China is correct. Not spending our money is correct. Realizing that it is politically impossible to further cripple our nation economically is correct. (Although if he could he would, but even Obama knows he would be the only one charging over that hill right now. Another example of our founding father’s genius in how they designed the government.).
The conference was not good men trying to find a way to stop a catastrophe, it was bad men trying to find a way to steal from one another. Remember it was already melting down when a group of third world leaders discovered the plot by some Europeans to keep money there and not give to the third world countries. Something to do with proving if the money actually was spent for global warming instead of whores and palaces and maybe a nuclear trigger device. You could see how that would offend people who have such a stellar track record, like Somalia, Iran, and some African nations.
So Obama went there and said, “Not as much money as you want, and you guys have to really mean it, and besides has anyone seen the e-mails? We’ve been caught with our hand in the cookie jar. Jigs up dudes.”
I hope and pray global warming continues to meltdown. It is one nail I’d like not to see pounded into our coffin by this administration. The camel’s nose of healthcare will destroy us enough as it is. Obama is a megalomaniac, truly convinced he is the second coming of something. But he’s not crazy, nor are the people around him. This is and has always been about crushing America. He’s not going to cripple himself over some squishy leftist in Europe. He’s has work to do right here.
And so do we.
I doubt he did any of his Copenhagen damage on purpose
RedBeard Sunday, December 20th at 9:27AM EST (link)Egomaniacal hedonists are not able to see themselves.
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Demand for energy worldwide
partyof1 Sunday, December 20th at 9:55AM EST (link)will grow by 30 percent to 50 percent over the next two decades. Thus, America and the rest of the world will need all the energy markets can deliver. According to Rattie, that means we’re going to need it all-oil, natural gas, coal, nuclear, wind, solar, geothermal and biofuels.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/so-wheres-that-global-cooling-alert/article1230773/
“green” energy cannot replace the baseload energy sources like coal, oil, natural gas. That is the impossible situation that the Left is in. They can make carbon more expensive but can’t make solar, wind, geothermal cheaper. Vastly reducing the number of people and/or their standard of living is the only ”answer” to this phony problem.
And we need to drop the hammer hard on all Republicans who support this asinine cap and tax, like Lindsey “you know the green economy is coming worldwide” Graham. No, it isn’t senator.
There is nothing redeeming about “climate legislation”. Spending trillions to MAYBE move the earth temperature .0001 degree? We do not control climate, the sun does. But you don’t have to take my word for it. Here is a paragraph, not from climategate, but from an openly published global warming paper.
“Because of the large and still uncertain level of natural
variability inherent in the climate record and the uncertainties in the
time histories of the various forcing agents (and particularly aerosols), a causal linkage between the build-up of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and the observed climate changes during the 20th century _cannot be unequivocally established_. The fact that the magnitude of the observed warming is large in comparison to natural variability as simulated in climate models is suggestive of such a linkage, but it does not constitute proof of one because the model simulations could be deficient in natural variability on the decadal to century time scale.”
National Academy of Sciences Committee on the Science of Climate Change, Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions (National Academy Press, Washington, DC, 2001).
Last minute Christams gift idea for Obama
SoFiMil Sunday, December 20th at 10:16AM EST (link)If Our Dear Leader hurries, he can still put a copy of his Copenhagen speech on the Queen’s iPod for Christmas.
http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
Kowalski on my spelling
SoFiMil Sunday, December 20th at 10:36AM EST (link)Christmas. Don’t know if there is an alternative meaning with my above spelling, but wanted to clarify I simply meant Christmas. At least I didn’t spell it with an “X”.
http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
X-Mas is just fine
oblio Sunday, December 20th at 11:22AM EST (link)with Eastern Orthodox Christians.
X is what you will find on Greek (and Russian) Orthodox icons to signify Christ.
IOYCOYC = Iousous
XPICTOC = Christos
The first and last letters are used to abbreviate thusly:
IC XC = Jesus Christ
Thanks. I didn't know this.
SoFiMil Sunday, December 20th at 11:28AM EST (link).
http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com
lost in the world of words
johnt Sunday, December 20th at 11:35AM EST (link)Does he still have the same sixteen yr old speechwriter? The child who got him through the campaign, does O read the stuff before prostrating himself before the teleprompter?
Is there any kind of reconciliation attempted between words and the realities, including that thing known as the US Senate?
This guy is so bad it borders on the unbelievable. And this is what the media and the Reality Based Community has given us. Even Soros should ask for a refund.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
narcissist
louisiana Sunday, December 20th at 11:36AM EST (link)O is a narcissist, so his sole goal is getting power & keeping that power. He will use any ideology, organization, or person that he feels will help him reach his
goal. Likewise, he will discard any of those if be believes they threaten his quest for power. Do some research on narcissism & you will know that Obama & narcissist are one & the same.
Sadly..
Bobcat51 Sunday, December 20th at 12:04PM EST (link)so true. I had a Mother in Law who was diagnosed with Chronic NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) and we had to watch her behave in a similar fashion. It was very disruptive to those around her.
I also noted during the week that after attending the WH Christmas party O’Reilly came on TV and was fawning all over the Obama’s even to the point of allegedly trying to broker a peace between Beck and the WH. I think he could be being used by the narcissist in chief?
It has always been, about HIM, I just pray that 2010 will see him neutered to a greater degree by the voters at the ballot box!
I thought you were kidding!
izoneguy Sunday, December 20th at 12:12PM EST (link)http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS00652/DSECTION=symptoms
Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:
Believing that you’re better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you’re special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
Our President seems to have many of these symptoms…..
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
exactly izoneguy! Now if you really want to scare
louisiana Sunday, December 20th at 12:36PM EST (link)yourself, do a web search of pathologial narcissism Obama. I’m not labeling him as such, but it seems that others have.
Heh, now that I think about it
izoneguy Sunday, December 20th at 12:43PM EST (link)Most of the libs I know have these same traits…..
We should re-name it NLD -
Narcissistic Liberalism Disorder
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
I just read about a Chinese
dwintnf Sunday, December 20th at 11:59AM EST (link)gold mining investment in the US that our treasury dept. wants to block. I wonder if the push back has already occurred. I live in the Northern mines area of California (Sierra County-a red county in a blue state) and there is still plenty of gold in these hills. If fact I sometimes wonder if the powers that be (Gov.-forest service/big mining company’s ) knows exactly how much gold is left here and are just waiting for the right time to start getting it out themselves. Of course they would have to suspend all the enviro regs that we are so blessed with ./s
The Marxist federal govt
izoneguy Sunday, December 20th at 12:07PM EST (link)will do the same thing with the oil industry. A national emergency will be declared and all oil & natual gas exploration will be controlled by the feds. They will own it all - lock stock and barrels….
Of course all the environmental regs will be lifted. All the oil companies will be nationalized. The stock will become worthless.
All the billions in investments by the oil companies will now be owned by your federal government. What will they do with all the money? Of course - give it away for the Global Warming payoffs.
So - Americans will be left with few choices, in the way of jobs, security and survival.
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
more suggested reading . . .
denniswayne Sunday, December 20th at 1:11PM EST (link)There should be no misunderstanding about the real intentions - a one world government to “save” the planet. Once the oceans have receded, then the planetary elites will address all the other evils (so perfectly reassured by the standing ovation given Chavez). This sounds paranoid to many, perhaps even most, here in the U.S. But following the European press is scary and eye-opening:
From the Guardian (which elsewhere excoriated Obama for not doing much more):
“Copenhagen may mark a turning point in human nature, when the global village acquired a global mind . . . a new force is at work in international diplomacy . . . that force is science. All of this, and the policies, laws and taxes that will be needed to implement a real agreement, have been driven by the opinions of people of no specific race, creed or politics, and very little personal power – the scientists who have made the doomsday predictions . . . Even with its flaws, what Copenhagen suggests is that the rightful place of science is at the heart of policy for a threatened world. The oceans are already rising. Either we sink, separately, or swim, together.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/19/copenhagen-summit-colin-blakemore
Here in the Telegraph a piece which frankly acknowledges what this is really about::
“If the impact of our behaviour on humanity at large is much greater or more rapid than ever before then we shall have to find ways of dealing with that which do not involve sacrificing the most enlightened form of government ever devised. There is a whiff of totalitarianism about this new theology, in which the risks are described in such cosmic terms that everything else must give way.” And “The dangerous idea that the democratic accountability of national governments should simply be dispensed with in favour of “global agreements” reached after closed negotiations between world leaders never, so far as I recall, entered into the arena of public discussion. Except in the United States, where it became a very contentious talking point, the US still holding firmly to the 18th-century idea that power should lie with the will of the people.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/janetdaley/6845967/Therell-be-nowhere-to-run-from-the-new-world-government.html
Daley intimates - and I do not mean this in a condescending let alone welcoming sense - that it’s up to the U.S. with its antiquated notions of representative democracy to save Europe from itself. For sure, the mandarins of the “developing world” which apparently includes China (or defined otherwise, any country other than in the wicked West) are only interested in using this as a vehicle toward economic advantage beyond what the U.S. and Europe are already self-flagellating giving away.
What is convieniently avoided is any discussion of what the consequences would be following the global economic redistribution, and with it military collapse. After the polar bears are saved, “science” - i.e., “social science” can go about destroying the liberties and individual accomplishments that untold millions have died to achieve over the last several hundred years. The countries which “cheated” can prey on and subjigate the innocents who made the sacrifice. The world will have a hugely more equalized standard of living, which is to say, about on par with Africa.
Orwell had it pegged all along.
whoever....
diamonddave Sunday, December 20th at 7:42PM EST (link)thought obimbo was a brilliant speaker or diplomat or anything? i never have. if his i.q. is not in the double digits i’d be surprised. i mean there’s a reason he won’t release his transcripts from college. constitutional scholar my ass. he couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him the c and the a and the t.
No TOTUS, Lame POTUS! mmm mmm mmm.
jsbrodhead Monday, December 21st at 7:06AM EST (link)’nuff said.
"...supposed to be a brilliant speaker and skilled diplomat.."
tanarg Monday, December 21st at 7:27AM EST (link)“…supposed to be a brilliant speaker and skilled diplomat..”
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Oh, please!! It’s way to early on Monday morning for jokes, isn’t it? He’s just like a “newsreader” on TV; no brilliance is required.
And where in God’s good earth does one get “skilled diplomat” from the nonexistent experience of the Dolt-in-Chief.
Please, Erick, I luvs ‘ya, but this is just a bit much for me to take at this point.
"At least I didn’t spell it with an “X”."
tanarg Monday, December 21st at 8:49AM EST (link)That’s how the first Christians spelled it. They were being persecuted and had to conceal the true meaning of their communications.
Remember your anger
renny Monday, December 21st at 9:22AM EST (link)Big O probably did us a favor by dissing the Chinese, except that if Geithner keeps pumping out dollars and no debt is bought, inflation will sky rocket faster than med. ins. premiums under Obamacare when co.’s must accept sick patients with prior conditions or serious illness.
Go to WND and send pink slips to Congress. Don’t let them think they can get away with this nonsense easily.
Impeach???
jnoeagle Monday, December 21st at 12:33PM EST (link)Even if that were possible, we would have JoeBiden, the old Master Plagiarist! Am I the only one who remembers that old campaign? No one ever mentioned the Biden history during the 2008 campaign. Why not?
Maybe it would be better than O, at least Joe could copy the good ideas of some people who actually have good ideas. Pelosi only becomes Pres if she can get rid of O and Joe. Maybe not impossible but very tough. Maybe she would resolve the national problem of Bad Hair Days.