Rep. Parker Griffith, an Alabama Democrat is switching to the GOP today.
That is a huge blow to Barack Obama. Griffith was an extremely endangered Democrat.
We should now hope him be an extremely endangered Republican in a primary. We will not fix the GOP’s problems if we keep allowing people who are not one of us to suddenly switch the letter next to their name and magically become one of us.
Being a Republican should be about more than just the letter next to a person’s name. We can improve that seat.
Here are Griffith’s earmark requests. He voted for Pelosi for Speaker. He’s actually been more regularly with Pelosi than Jim Marshall (D-GA). We can pick this guy off and get a real Republican in that seat.
Again, changing the letter next to your name does not magically make you one of us.
See the Club for Growth for more. They put it into perspective.
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One less seat to worry about
proudgop Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:13AM EST (link)Welcome aboard
I would welcome Gene Taylor too or Boren of OK at this point
They may not be far behind.
Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:24AM EST (link)Taylor’s MS-04 is the most heavily Republican congressional district represented by a Democrat. Boren’s the lone congressional Democrat in a state in which Obama lost every single county.
Or they may not switch at all. I don’t know how serious Boren’s opposition is next year, but Taylor is facing only a token GOP opponent. Griffith, on the other hand, was a first-termer with two strong GOP candidates vying to oppose him.
Still, both may want to consider whether they want to be in the majority party next year…
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I Don't Want Boren, or Bright, or Minnick To Switch - I Want Them GONE (nt)
IJB Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:37AM EST (link)Defeating them is preferable
SE-779 Tuesday, December 22nd at 7:08PM EST (link)But I was just stating the possibility that they might, might switch.
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Parker Griffith Can't Lose!
Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:15AM EST (link)Not anymore, anyway.
Welcome to the club, Parker. I was wondering just the other day why the heck you were still a Democrat.
To my knowledge this is the first D-to-R switch in Congress since Rodney Alexander (LA-05) changed his registration right before the GOP wave of 2004.
We will take the House.
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I anticipate even more D's abandoning ship...
Mary Beth Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:59AM EST (link)…and I welcome it. Whatever it takes to stymie and stall this administration’s agenda I’m all for it.
I am also for conservative primary challengers for not only any switchovers, but also for Republicans who’ve been there too long and who’ve forgotten who they work for.
We need challengers everywhere. Let them make the case to the people and let them decide whether to stick with the incumbent or go with the challenger. And then…when they choose…I’ll support whoever wins that primary.
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Heh, he must have read my post
izoneguy Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:20AM EST (link)That said: The democratic party has been hijacked by the socialists.
You cannot be a member of the democratic party and say that you
represent America.
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Hey...I might actually praise a RINO...for the time being anyway
AceInTX Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:26AM EST (link)we only need two more votes in the House than they got last time to kill this pig there…if this switch means one less Dem voting for health care…we only need to switch one more…
Only problem with that analysis is if Griffith was one of the Dem nos already….does anyone know how he voted on the House Bill?
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Matt In The Hook Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:31AM EST (link)This is a move to save his political career, so I’m not particularly interested in this switch except that it can be used to make hay against the bill, noting that it’s so unpopular and divisive even Dems who voted against it can’t stand being in the same party anymore.
Griffith is actually a decently conservative representative; certainly more conservative than guys like Kirk. I’ll welcome him into the fold… but that doesn’t mean he won’t get a strong primary challenge from the right, which he should. Just means that win or lose in that one, we have one more vote for our speaker come Jan 2011.
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I agree...he should...but for the time being at least...he's a pick up for our side
AceInTX Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:02PM EST (link)let’s hope he proves more loyal to the R beside his name than some who have paraded it a lot longer!
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He voted against the House HC bill.
Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:35AM EST (link)In fact, I’d heard he’d said he would vote against Pelosi for Speaker in the next Congress.
Still, it’s always nice to be sure which team everyone is on…
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All Dems retiring
proudgop Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:35AM EST (link)sadly all the dems retiring will vote for health care bill now too
Very likely
Matt In The Hook Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:49AM EST (link)I think the groundswell may have been too much, too soon. It gives Pelosi a few extra votes to play with.
With some Blue Dogs leaving for good, we’ll see exactly how much they’re all about representing their constituents or even voting their conscience and how much they’re about getting cushy jobs after their legislative careers end.
Should note that Griffith did vote against cap and trade too, which makes him more conservative than a few members of our own caucus. Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be challenged from the right, but it’s still a point that should be made.
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Griffith switch akin to those by Reagan, Gramm and gamecock and if we vilify converts, we will never regain the majority
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:46PM EST (link)There is a fine black conservative already announced in that district, but I will now support this convert because they are often the most zealous. He has shown great courage in being the only house dem to vote against the stimulus, cap and trade and health care reform.
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I too was a convert which is why I have so little patience for compromise...
AceInTX Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:51PM EST (link)if this guy is more conservative than Mark Kirk as someone points out above…whom we are currently promoting for Senate….then why jump on this guy with both feet first jump out of the shoot?
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Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:57PM EST (link)“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
Agree with Mike.
joayn Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:21PM EST (link)This might be a toe in the water to other Dems thinking of changing. We must welcome him with open arms FOR NOW - this is a major blow to Obama.
Gradgov.com grades him a C-, btw. If you read Griffith’s statement on health care at his website, he’s way closer to Republican thinking and proposals. And he was a doctor for more than 30 years.
So, I say, for now, welcome Rep. Griffith.
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Griffith has sent out two letters to constitutents since the HCR debate began, touting his support
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:41PM EST (link)for GOP bills/amendments to have no HCR until we end state monopolies and have fed tort reform. Can’t get more conservative than that.
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55555!
redneck_hippie Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:04PM EST (link)If Nasty Nancy is agin it I’m for it.
“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
Remember NY-23; translation: RINOs Have No Base.
Parker was already a no on HCR and is the ONLY House Dem that voted against the stimulus, cap and trade and health care, and months ago said he would never vote for Pelosi as speaker again, which is why I wrote this, 2 days ago-link
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:43PM EST (link)http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/12/20/when-did-conservatives-lose-america/
The only true blue dawgs are Parker Griffith (D-AL) in the U.S. House of Representatives, who voted against the Stimulus, Cap and Trade and ObamaCare and who vows to vote against Nancy Pelosi as Speaker if he wins re-election in 2010; and Huckleberry Hound in the Dog House. (My apologies to Hound for the past use of his image to represent such a sorry lot. This will be his last appearance in columns related to that mythical creature called the moderate Democrat.)
Gamecock is well informed about Griffith thx to all my relatives in Northern Alabama.
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Thanks for the info GC on Griffith nt
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Gmac Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:30PM EST (link)Well, not sure what happened there BUT
Gmac Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:46PM EST (link)PG is a weezil who consistently showed that he would vote against illegal immigration reform, voted for pay raises and always gave the back of his hand to conservatives while he was in the Alabama legislature.
He voted WITH Nancy Pelosi 80% of the time.
He will have to face off against Mo Brooks and Les Philips for the Republican nomination and I can tell you right now it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for him.
I suspect more spineless switchers
clement Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:27AM EST (link)They see the writing on the wall. I don’t think switching parties is going to be of much help.
Like rats fleeing a burning ship
MNConservative Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:09PM EST (link)n/t
For now, I'll take the vote.
Bill S Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:29AM EST (link)Unless, of course, this is a fiendish Democrat plan to make the House vote on healthcare appear to be “bipartisan”. Which wouldn’t surprise me.
Decorum is fo’ suckas - unless it’s one of the good guys
A genuinely machiavellian suspicion
redneck_hippie Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:36AM EST (link)My question is the same as Ace’s. Will he help KILL THE BILL???!!!!!
From day one, I have said nobody would defect on health care without having to R themselves. Think of it as a ceremony of knighthood. You can’t slay the dragon without submitting to the sword.
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Oh, and I'm sending all my rednecks Ray Stevens'
redneck_hippie Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:38AM EST (link)We The People vid. I can’t stand C&W music, but that is my favorite anti-Obama song & lyric.
Merry Christmas, bs!
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Well with a name like redneck_hippie I figuring on you being a David Allen Coe fan
Richard Mullins Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:49AM EST (link)Of course I wrong now. I hope you don’t continuing in given the idiots that make so called “rock and pop music” any money. They don’t need my money and I hope the never get yours.
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Don't know who he is, even.
redneck_hippie Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:02PM EST (link)I do like some pop and rock, but I also like almost all the other genres as well. Like I said I can’t stand C&W, the other 2 that I don’t like are rap and most opera.
Redneck is my shorthand for Kansas freesoiler and hippie is shortand for naturelover. Both categories are stereotypically fringe elements. What’s in a name, anyway? I basically stick with it because I won’t be confused with anybody else. I’ve used it since the early days of the FDT campaign, because there were these t-shirts about punching hippies, and the kleptocrats labelled all conservatives as rednecks. So I wear it proudly.
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That's why I've said that I was wrong
Richard Mullins Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:27PM EST (link)I knew that you weren’t going to get it so I just drop it. When it comes to music, I have a fond appreciation for many genres(rap is excluded). My dad has man albums that I want to make .mp3’s out of them. When it comes to Opera, it hit me on 2 sides. First, the basis of it is very nortic and touches my nortic side(1/8 Norwegian). Second, it’s sung mostly by Italians and that pulls against my Italian side(1/4 Italian). Nice stuff but the music stays on classical side(I like but I’m not going to ohh and ahh over it). As for David Allen Coe, he called himself a long hair hippie(that was redneck). Pop doesn’t have a lot of satisfaction for me.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Sometimes a cow is just a cow
AKSteveB Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:24PM EST (link)The guy is in a one time yellow dog Dem state, he is a doctor who is probably scared by the Dems HCR and he already had broken with the party leadership. We have two good candidates in his district now, there really are worse things!
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Amen, bs. I posted this comment in one of Dan
TNJim Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:57AM EST (link)Perrin’s diaries the other day. It was referring to Senators who might switch parties but it applies equally to Representatives as well.
I’ll call Griffith a plant until he proves me wrong. It will take more than one vote with the Republicans to do that, too.
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So Griffith wants to join Shelby as example of former Democrats turned Republicans
Richard Mullins Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:33PM EST (link)NOT!!!!! I don’t think that this should work since only now he seems to have a Revelation from Heaven. If he’s really changed, then we might give him the benefit of the doubt, but until then we promote the non-swaping Republican. We’ll work on Primaring him until then.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
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RM, Griffith voted against the budget, stimulus, cap and trade and HCR - nt
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But why would he stay Democrat unless he claimed ignorance .-nt-
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ignorance of what? - Richard, party switches is one of the main goals of conservatives - celebrate for 5 seconds - smile - nt
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It Ain't Where Your From Or Where Your At ...
Swamp_Yankee Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:15PM EST (link)… It’s where your headed that counts.
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amen SY, and this type of switch is how the Reagan Revolution started - the difference now is that there are more seemingly irreversible
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:24PM EST (link)big govt obstacles and is about to be the big cahuna of health care socialism, which is why I think we need to be (and needed to be months ago) running ads against 11 dems in their districts to trya nd shame them into voting against the bill and at least against cloture.
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I'm sure he, like Zell Miller was a life-long Dem that got to DC and saw the difference between grass roots dems in 'Bama/Georgia, and got disgusted - look Richard, any Dem that has switched since
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:14PM EST (link)the 70s had enough info that should have caused them to switch earlier. I didn’t switch until 2000.
rejoice
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I have several friends around my age in GA that remain Ds.
Achance Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:27PM EST (link)They were born Democrats, their friends are all Democrats, so they stay Democrats. They probably voted for GWB and McCain, but locally and in state elections their allegiances and alliances are with Democrats.
I too was born a Democrat, but I came to live in a state where the McGovernite wing of the Party took over very early, dominating the State Legislature by the mid-seventies. They became so radical that by the early ’80s they’d pretty much lost everything - including me. The last Democrat I voted for was Bill Sheffield for Governor in ‘82 and he was a conservative as Democrats went. ‘Course, the “radicals” of the ’70s look pretty tame by the standards of Comrade Obama’s administration.
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I know many of these blue/yellow dawgs and most are in Griffith's district - nt
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I live here...
Gmac Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:55PM EST (link)The free hint is that this clown is a weezil. He consistently voted against or suppressed votes on immigration reform, voted for pay raises and better insurance plans while in the Alabama legislature.
He is *NOT* a conservative..
He’s going to have to make it past to conservative Republicans in the primary and as far as I’m concerned he’s not going to get my vote.
Recruit Hoeven!
earlgrey Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:38AM EST (link)Ok this is unrelated to Erick’s post, but I wanted it to be read!
Hoeven ND Rep considering going against Dorgan for Senate in 2010. Has 22 point lead in Rasmussen. I called the Hoeven committee today.
The person that answered the phone asked me to email her why I wanted to governor to run. She said the Governor wants to hear from the people that want him to run.
The number for his committee is 701-323-7660. If you have some time, I would suggest calling or emailing to encourage the governor. I did and asked to be on the mailing list to make donations to his campaign if he decides to run.
Communicate openly, freely and tell it like it is. Don’t dodge the uncomfortable subject. Be up front. Tell people what you are doing and why.
North Dakota politics
MNConservative Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:15PM EST (link)have always seemed very selfish to me. They send Republicans to their statehouse and governors mansion to provide responsible government at a state level, but they send Democrat leeches to Washington to bring home the bacon. This is a prime example of the attitude which has led to such insanity in our federal budget. Grow up, North Dakota. (spoken as a former ND resident)
Just one seat, but this is a PR victory.
Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:39AM EST (link)The message to America (or at least the America who hears about it, as this won’t get a tenth of the coverage Specter’s defection got) is that the Obama agenda, particularly the health care bill, is so hateful, obnoxious and destructive that at least one Democrat congressman no longer wants to be in the same party as the people pushing it.
That can only help us.
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Parker Griffith is a PR Coup
Swamp_Yankee Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:06PM EST (link)Just flipping through talk radio news stations to see how it was being reported outiside of partisan sources and two things stand out in every news report I’ve heard:
1. Sign Dems are in trouble
2. Parker is a doctor
I like the fact that he is a doctor. Right now my primary concern is beating health care. I know he voted no. But if he feels compelled to move Right, maybe its a sign that are drifting Right since the first vote. HE may also have some sway over some fence-sitting Blue Dogs.
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Who's Running Against Griffith in the Primary?
IJB Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:40AM EST (link)I think we should help those guy(s?) out - none of the current Dems in Congress are really worth keeping around, even as Republican-switchers.
Besides, the record on party switchers is not all that great (see: Shelby of AL)…
Les Phillips is running in this GOP primary AL-05
pilgrim Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:50AM EST (link)Les Phillip is a candidate for U.S. Congress from the fifth district of Alabama. Believing that our great nation needs to return to its Constitutional roots, Phillip believes that the time has come to take the fight to Washington D.C. to restore our freedoms.
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Mo Brooks
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Before we pass judgement, let's wait and see...
neutron21sc Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:48AM EST (link)…considering he’s a first termer that won in an open seat election. And, considering the following:
“He has bucked the Democratic leadership on nearly all of its major domestic initiatives, including the stimulus package, health care legislation, the cap-and trade energy bill and financial regulatory reform.
He was one of only 11 House Democrats to vote against the stimulus.”
…there are quite a few true RINOs that have worse qualifications for our side than these…so let’s withhold fire until we determine intent…
Exactly
Matt In The Hook Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:52AM EST (link)He likely ran as a Dem since his district is heavily Democratic… but in a West Virginia way. Very much an artifcat of a different time; genuinely conservative democrats live in Alabama and vote for GOP presidential candidates while voting for the guy with a (D) next to his name for other offices out of tradition.
As you pointed out and I did as well above, he’s more conservative than some in our own caucus and now we’ve got a firm grip on one more vote against Pelosi in Jan. 2011.
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Arkansas is the same
DerKrieger Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:24PM EST (link)Very conservative but very few Republicans in elected office outside John Boozman’s district at either the federal or state level.
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I wondered a few weeks ago how long until the party switching starts
Dave_in_Fla Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:56AM EST (link)I suspect that before it is over, we will see 10 or so come over. I really expect Al Boyd in FL-02 to be one to switch in the next few months.
As pointed out though, this doesn’t help us much. Most of these folks already voted against HC last time around.
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"We will not fix the GOP’s problems if we keep allowing people who are not one of us to suddenly switch the letter next to their name and magically become one of us."
Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:58AM EST (link)You mean people like Ronald Reagan?
No, of course I’m not comparing Griffith to Reagan. I’m just pointing out that even though party-switchers are usually opportunists (Ben Nighthorse Campbell comes to mind), sometimes Democrats truly do figure out they’re simply in the wrong party. Especially southern Democrats.
Since Parker Griffith was already more conservative than a lot of Republicans I could mention, and since I wouldn’t take for granted that another Democrat couldn’t win back AL-05 in an open-seat situation (remember, it was supposed to go to us after Bud Cramer retired last year), I think this could be one of those situations in which we make the perfect the enemy of the good. Right now, I see no reason why Griffith won’t be a reliable conservative vote at least 90% of the time, and so I see no reason to endanger that seat in the quest for 100%.
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You Glossed Over Erick's Key Points About Griffith...
IJB Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:05PM EST (link)Here are Griffith’s earmark requests.[link removed] He voted for Pelosi for Speaker. He’s actually been more regularly with Pelosi than Jim Marshall (D-GA). We can pick this guy off and get a real Republican in that seat.
If he’s been with Pelosi more than Jim Marshall, that’s hardly a good indicator for future votes.
I’d rather replace him with a *real* Republican. Some of us learned our lessons after the mixed record of the 1995 party switchers…
Of COURSE he voted Pelosi for Speaker...
Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:14PM EST (link)…you think a newly-elected freshman Democrat’s very first act in Congress would be to vote against the leader of his own party?
Don’t get me wrong — I’d prefer to see Les Philip or Mo Brooks in this seat. If no serious Democrat steps up to try to reclaim the seat, I’ll back one of them as a primary challenger. But the way I see it, we’ve got a conservative Republican in that seat as of today.
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Parker Grifith is
Gmac Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:58PM EST (link)not a conservative as much as he would like for you to believe he is.
the "key" points about Griffith are not puny pork votes - He got it right in all the big 4 votes: budget, stimulus, HCR and C&T - nt
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Reagan said, "I didn't leave the Democrat Party,
guyaverage Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:13PM EST (link)the Democrat party left me”.
BIG difference.
I was once a Democrat and I marched in Solidarity Day during Reagan’s first term. Then once my brain engaged I saw that what I believed in my heart and mind was Conservatism, and what the Democrats believed was a danger to me and to my country, I left the Democrat Party, but I hadn’t changed, I had just become aware of which party my beliefs truly lined up with.
This turncoat politician from from Alabama has nothing but his own political survival in mind.
We need STATESMEN (like Reagan), NOT politicians.
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Okay, so how do you know that's not what happened with Parker Griffith?
Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:27PM EST (link)In his single term of office he certainly hasn’t been acting like a Democrat. Not even a so-called “conservative” Democrat — because there aren’t any.
A truly conservative Democrat eventually leaves the Democrat Party. You did. Most of the people on my mother’s side of the family in Louisiana did. And now Parker Griffith just did.
“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
While we're cleaning up Alabama,
wolfeman Tuesday, December 22nd at 11:59AM EST (link)Could we maybe get Richard Shelby to go away too? I hope a true conservative will step up and run against him in the primary next year.
I read that Griffin is a Doctor.
Mary Beth Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:02PM EST (link)If that’s the case, then the timing of his announcement…right before the Senate dems link arms and plunge into the abyss…should send a pretty strong message to all of the so-called blue dogs.
The GOP would do well to highlight the fact he’s a Doctor.
“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States when men were free.” ~ Ronald Reagan
I meant Griffith. DOH!
Mary Beth Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:02PM EST (link)n/t
“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States when men were free.” ~ Ronald Reagan
Sure ya did...
Third Street Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:08PM EST (link)“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”
this is a political and PR coup...
martellus Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:23PM EST (link)God must love us because this is magnificent. In 1994 with the all of the retirements and the fact that the GOP ran a full slate of candidates coast to coast we forced the dims to defend every seat.
We need to welcome Griffith with open arms. This can grease the skids for other defections. They will defect if they see they are welcomed.
Let’s not blow this. We can force the dims to defend the entire map. They do not have enough money to do that. All we have to do is concentrate our resources in those Red districts held by blue dogs.
We can take the house back. Come on over boys and girls the water’s fine over here and the beer is cold. Welcome
The Hammer
the problem with conservatives is that we don't think like liberals
louisiana Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:39PM EST (link)As distasteful as this might be, we must start thinking like liberals in order to defeat them. I might be paranoid, but what if this is a strategy by the Dems to get their own reelected again? The Dems see the writing on the wall in 2010, and will do anything to minimize their losses. As a side note, Rodney Alexander is my rep., & I have completely satisfied with him. I’m going to withhold my support of Griffith until I know more.
If Blue Dogs are gigilos, then let's play "Deal!"
Section9 Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:40PM EST (link)The problem is giving them these choice committee assignments when we retake the House. Long serving Republicans are going to be pissed, but if we can kill NancyCare, they will have to be convinced that the price was worth it.
Get your Pimp Shoes on!
Reagan weeps at this. He does.
“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill
If Gene Taylor was going to switch
TxCon Tuesday, December 22nd at 12:56PM EST (link)he would have done so in 1994 with Shelby, Tauzin, et al.
Minnick votes with the GOP more than he does the Dems. No point in blasting the guy.
Are You Serious?! He's a*DEM*. Reason Enough To Blast Minnick To Kingdom Come. (nt)
IJB Tuesday, December 22nd at 5:59PM EST (link)Minnick should be hit hard until he changes parties
Richard Mullins Tuesday, December 22nd at 7:50PM EST (link)Then we should make sure the change on his part is genuine. For Griffith and anyone else, a Trust but Verify routine needs to used.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
Regardless...
redohio Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:22PM EST (link)of where you stand on his switch. It is good for the GOP. This will more than likely force the DCCC to spend money on the research to explore Democratic candidates. Money they didn’t expect to spend because they had an incumbent in the race.
Eric: Don't wear Clown Shoes-The Fix is In!
Section9 Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:38PM EST (link)Obviously, Boehner and Cantor have promised this spineless gigilo no primary oppo and a decent set of committee slots as an enticement to other Blue Dog Pimp Daddies to come over to our side.
That’s how the Beltway GOP works. If they can get enough Blue Dogs to come over to our side, things suddenly darken for NancyCare. The price for a Republican sinecure? Vote with Leadership.
Blue Dogs don’t have princples. It’s all about their Bride Price.
You didn’t think that the difference between Harry Reid and John Boehner was one of princple did you? Silly activist, you!
“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill
Erick- I'm thinking of your diary about noun and adjective conservatives
Scope Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:53PM EST (link)and the noun conservatives have it deep in their bones and souls. It is a way of looking at policy issues and governing from a deeply withheld set of beliefs. I would be leary of anyone who was a Democrat, and ran as one last year. There may come a time when you have converted, and proven to be what you say you are, but, I don’t see it happening overnight. Ace, how long did it take you to go from being a Democrat to becoming a total convert to conservatism? I do understand his revulsion with the current Progressives, enough to switch, but, is he swithching to Dem Lite? But hey, for now we won’t argue with his votes against Pelosi’s path to putrid.
A message to President Obama, and Progressives everywhere-
“I won’t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.” Wm. F. Buckley, Jr.
“You lie.” Joe Wilson
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Erick- I'm thinking of your diary about noun and adjective conservatives
Scope Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:53PM EST (link)and the noun conservatives have it deep in their bones and souls. It is a way of looking at policy issues and governing from a deeply withheld set of beliefs. I would be leary of anyone who was a Democrat, and ran as one last year. There may come a time when you have converted, and proven to be what you say you are, but, I don’t see it happening overnight. Ace, how long did it take you to go from being a Democrat to becoming a total convert to conservatism? I do understand his revulsion with the current Progressives, enough to switch, but, is he swithching to Dem Lite? But hey, for now we won’t argue with his votes against Pelosi’s path to putrid.
A message to President Obama, and Progressives everywhere-
“I won’t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.” Wm. F. Buckley, Jr.
“You lie.” Joe Wilson
Proud member of the Achance YAADI (you are a dumb idiot) Club since 2008.
So he switches parties to get re-elected?
guyaverage Tuesday, December 22nd at 1:59PM EST (link)This is the kind of “R” that starts the word RINO. This gentleman has no convictions, he just simply will do what needs to be done to get re-elected.
He is a perfect RINO. Exactly the kind of weak-willed agent of compromise that has destroyed the credibility of the Republican Party.
I have not read the thread, so forgive me if someone has already mentioned this: Arlen Specter was a DEMOCRAT, then became a Republican, and now he’s a Democrat again.. More importanly, Arlen never left the Democrat party when it came to his core beliefs.
Somebody prove to me that this politician (spits) from Alabama is any different than Specter.
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doing waht is required to get re-elected in his 'bama district, means voting like we want him too, and he has, even as a democrat - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:19PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
specter voted against us on the big issues much more than Griffith - PG is 4 for 4 on the big ticket votes - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:20PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
For consideration of what makes tactical sense
oldgeezerguy Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:28PM EST (link)The party probably had to promise him no opponent this time to get him to cross over.
It is tactically stupid to jump right on his case out of the box and thus discourage others who many be considering similar switches.
Not a good kneejerk reaction in my opinion and reflection for a bit may show giving him a pass may pay off more than and immediate stab in the back.
Hey Pelosi is their no room for moderates in your big tent.
(she deserves that one sooooooooo much)
OT Dems Lose Top Recruit Today
proudgop Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:31PM EST (link)Via Hotline
Businessman Jack McDonald (D) will drop out of the race against Rep. Mike McCaul (R-TX) today, robbing Dems of a wealthy recruit in the race against what could be a vulnerable GOPer.
McDonald, the former CEO of information technology firm Perficient Inc., will cite business reasons in a statement. The Nasdaq-listed company reported last month that its profits had plummeted by some 95% during the economic downturn.
McDonald stepped down as CEO in Sept. but remained on board as the company’s chair while he began his run for Congress.
It is a blow to Dems who had hoped to give McCaul a top-notch challenger.
McDonald had raised a stunning $932K through the end of Sept., ending the quarter with $805K in the bank. McDonald is wealthy, but he lent his campaign just $26K, indicating he had real fundraising prowess.
Had he stayed in, McDonald would have faced the 3-term McCaul, who survived a closer-than-expected contest last year with atty Larry Joe Doherty (D). McCaul won the race by a narrow 54%-43% margin.
Interesting that he had 805,000 and he is dropping out??
Well with Mike McCaul's "No Earmarks" pledge that he's keep McDonald was going to get beat badly
Richard Mullins Tuesday, December 22nd at 7:44PM EST (link)McCaul was one of 2 Republican congressmen here in Texas that didn’t put any earmarks this year. That should go well with voters in NW Harris county like Cypress and Tomball. It should help on the wayward voters as well.
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Joe Biden is like a Decrepit Park owner with a Meth lab that happens to not only be a dealer but a user.
Let’s Bankrupt the Democratic paty. Make spend all the money to defend thier candidates.
I Doubt Anyone Can "Guarantee" Griffith No Primary Opponents
IJB Tuesday, December 22nd at 6:02PM EST (link)He already had two GOP opponents, and I doubt anyone in Washington can “force” them out, thank God.
Hopefully the locals won’t abandon those two, because every ‘party switcher’ should get a strong primary challenge out of the box, AFAIAC.
PG
Gmac Wednesday, December 23rd at 12:03AM EST (link)is despised by conservatives here…
Friend emailed me:
jccbin Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:29PM EST (link)“I don’t give a Damn about the letter next to his name…as long as he votes conservative.
The Red State powers-that-wanna-be may not like that, but it is exactly how MOST of America feels about their representatives.
They do not give a crap about your egalitarian agendas and machiavellian manipulations for power. They hear you talk about manipulating the speakership vote and think that THAT is part of what is WRONG with Washington and the various state governments: TOO MUCH POLITIKIN’.
YOU political types have made this problem by making things intentionally complicated because YOU like playing the game.
We don’t give a crap about the game. We want it simple and direct and that means driving every one of you into the ground: all you pretty web sites and 527s and lobbyists have got to go. You just get in the way of the people making simple decisions. You are as bad as the trial lawyers, who also must go.”
What do we say to that?
This is great news
texasproud Tuesday, December 22nd at 2:45PM EST (link)Parker Griffith is an example of where the Blue Dog Democrat nominee ran as a truer conservative than the GOP candidate. When you factor in him questioning Pelosi’s sanity, and his votes against the leadership on the so-called stimulus, cap and tax, and the health care bill, I would say he can find a home here. Plus we have not had a GOP represent this district since 1869 (that’s longer than NY 23) and we have someone who can represent the physician view of this issue, I would say we have an excellent wedge to use against the Pelosicrats. We thought they key to a big wave was a series of retirements, when we just needed the handful of likeminded conservatives to join their real party. It will be interesting to watch and see what type of pressure Bobby Bright, who has a nearly identical record to Griffith, is brought to bear. The real question will be after November ‘10, especially if we retake the House, will the last remnants of Blue Dogs like Boren from OK, Taylor from MS, Marshall from GA try to abandon ship
$1.6 Trillion deficit, $800 million to Hamas to rebuild West Bank, kowtowing to the whims and demands of Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Raul Castro, and bowing before a Saudi Prince. I guess that’s ‘Change we can believe in’
impressive history ...
george_in_columbia Tuesday, December 22nd at 5:47PM EST (link)actually NY-23 was longer — 1850’s, but 1869 is still very impressive !
Well technically...
ltnowis Wednesday, December 23rd at 1:22AM EST (link)due to redistricting, it was 1850 for some parts of NY-23, but 1870, 1890, or even the mid to late 20th century for others.
http://www.thealbanyproject.com/diary/6516/amazing-political-history-of-ny23
One of us...
melanie Tuesday, December 22nd at 4:17PM EST (link)“Again, changing the letter next to your name does not magically make you one of us.”
Now more than ever, starting off with an “R” next to your name doesn’t magically make you one of us. The GOP needs to clean house before it’s too late, but in the meantime, I welcome anyone willing to try and help stop the socialization of America, regardless of the letter next to their name.
Oh yeah that's right after the damage is done
avgamerican Tuesday, December 22nd at 7:22PM EST (link)This guy makes me sick. Don’t let him in. Mr. Patrick do us all a favor. Go home and tell your constituents how you helped wreck the United States. You are just realizing that the dem party is communist and is pursuing massive gov’t intrusion? You don’t realize how angry real Americans are.
Its great news indeed!
SirGladiator Tuesday, December 22nd at 7:46PM EST (link)Its fantastic to see Dems jumping ship to the GOP in advance of the elections. I don’t know hardly anything about this fellow, or the GOP guy who was already running, but that Les Phillips fellow seems mighty cool. No doubt Griffith knew that Phillips was going to beat him in the general so he switched parties to try to keep his seat, kind’ve like how Specter up there in PA switched to avoid certain defeat. I’d like to know more about both candidates, but as far as Im concerned we should judge the Griffith-Phillips ‘primary’ race the same way we would have had they faced in the general, party labels are irrelevant, its all about where you stand on the issues. Whoever the better man is, thats who we should support. Either way we win. Of course the GOP Establishment will game the system in Griffith’s favor, and their talking points will be ‘If Griffith goes down in the primary it will discourage other Democrats from switching’, but that’s not entirely true, it will only discourage ‘inferior’ Democrats from switching. True Conservative Democrats will always have a welcome home in the Republican Party, as well they should. If Griffith can prove himself the better man, he should be welcomed. If he can’t, he should lose the primary the same way he would’ve definitely lost the general had he not switched in the first place. If Phillips is the better man, there is no reason on earth not to elect him, since this seat was already ours for the taking long before Griffith decided to switch parties. Whoever wins the GOP Primary will win the general, that was true yesterday and its still true today. We neither owe Grifith any hostility for formerly being a Democrat, especially since he was one of the most Conservative ones in Congress, nor do we owe him any loyalty for becoming a Republican, especially since he become one to avoid certain defeat next November. May the best man win!
Alabama democrats are an odd breed.
archer52 Tuesday, December 22nd at 9:26PM EST (link)I spend a lot of time up there hunting. The people are that socially conservative, somewhat moderate on funding type of democrat. Think Reagan democrats. I could see how a conservative democrat- anti-abortion, socially conservative, fiscally moderate, could get to the point where they would throw up in their mouths a little over what the Democratic party is like today. I don’t know this guy but he may not be as left as you think or a turncoat. Like Reagan said, I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, it left me.