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“We renew our pledge … to work to support candidates who will do everything in their power to someday bring about the day when Roe v. Wade joins Scott v. Sandford as an aberrant footnote to our nation’s great history.

On this day 37 years ago, seven unelected lawyers (all male) spat on centuries of Western tradition, the plain text of the Constitution, and decades of precedent and declared that there existed in the Constitution a heretofore undiscovered right for women to kill their children in utero. In one fell swoop, one of society’s burning moral questions was removed completely from the democratic process and placed in the hands of a black-robed oligarchy, jealous of protecting its own prerogative and manifestly afraid of “appearing weak” above all things; on at least one occasion it would refuse to reverse itself in order to teach the lowly population to be “tested by following” so that they might know the truth of the unelected Court above all other pedestrian concerns.

Almost four decades later, somewhere around 50 million unborn children have been victimized by the breathtaking arrogance of the Court. They committed no crimes, were afforded no due process or trials at all, and every appeal made on their behalf has fallen on deaf ears. They have been killed in the most brutal ways imaginable, unceremoniously sucked from their mother’s wombs, and carelessly discarded without even the dignity of an unmarked grave. Every reasonable effort to curb the abuses of the system that has produced these gruesome results has been summarily rejected by society’s robed masters. And so the carnage marches on.

The truth that these children are biologically human and biologically distinct from their mothers is beyond question to anyone who believes in the most basic tenets of science. Why, then, are they declared so totally bereft of rights in our society? The fact that a woman can, with the protection of the law, kill her child on the day of its planned full-term delivery, indicates clearly that the only answer to this question is “physical location within their mother’s womb.” If a child is in this place, it may be killed with impunity; if it is in another, to kill it is murder. Even the more generous (but less accurate) characterization of the Court’s jurisprudence as respecting “stages of development” rather than physical location provides us no more satisfactory answer. If a child can be kllled with impunity because it has not reached 24 weeks’ gestational age, why may it not be killed because it hasn’t reached its first birthday? Or puberty? Logic and reason provide no defensible answer to these questions, because in the legalized abortion regime, logic and reason – like science and law – have been sacrificed on the altar of self-aggrandizement and convenience at any cost.

The evil Roe v. Wade has wrought has cheapened and weakened our society. It has decimated minority population growth, especially among African-Americans. It has caused us to devalue the handicapped and less fortunate, as mothers who carry these precious children to full term are now somehow thought to be less responsible for the decision. The damage to the fabric of the family itself – the most basic building block of our society – has been incalculable.

And so today, hundreds of thousands of Americans will march on our nation’s capital to continue our peaceful protest against this policy which has been foisted upon us. And though most of us cannot be physically present with them, we stand with them in solidarity and in spirit, saying a silent prayer together on behalf of the fallen, and in the hope that the guilt of the blood spilt on our land might somehow be purged.

At RedState, we stand in solidarity with them. The question does not and should not divide us along conservative/libertarian lines, for even the most libertarian among us must recognize the right of the state to prevent and punish the killing of innocent humans. And we renew our pledge today and every day to work to support candidates who will do everything in their power to someday bring about the day when Roe v. Wade joins Scott v. Sandford as an aberrant footnote to our nation’s great history.

On this day, we remember the nameless and the forgotten, and we lament our inability to even grasp the sorrow or the extent of their loss. Requiescat in pace.

COMMENTS

  • JadedByPolitics

    and the GENOCIDE that is occurring in the black community because of this Supreme Court decision in which the “progressives” in the Court KNEW it would destroy that community and continue to kill off the poor blacks as Justice Ginsberg noted just this year It was finally admitted out loud that was how she saw the law.

    in the year 2010 when sonograms show that they are NOT just cells but actually humans with beating hearts that Doctors who take the OATH to save lives would actually continue to KILL is insane. A society that would KILL its most defenseless is a society that will not last the test of time!

  • http://vbushmills.blogtownhall.com/ vassar

    VB

  • jcincy

    Forgive us Lord and have mercy on us.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/solemnoath Veronica Estrada
  • Aaron Gardner
  • Repair_Man_Jack
  • Darin_H

    I’ll be 37 in exactly 10 months

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/solemnoath Veronica Estrada
  • janis

    to pay for this Lefty sacrament would do so to make us all complicit in this evil practice. Once having forced that upon us, they would then sneer that we had no right to criticize anyone for taking part in it.

  • throwback59

    This is why I am proud to be a member of Red State.

  • Brian Hibbert
  • Feddie

    This post demonstrates why I hold RedState in such high esteem. Kudos to the directors and of all of RS’s current contributors for fighting the good fight and working to build a culture of life in this country.

    God Bless,

    Steve Dillard

  • charpaddy

    A nation is judged by how they treat the innocents among them.

    Please forgive our great nation, Lord. Such a horrible thing. The fact that the Dem party makes this a sacrament defies logic.

    Thanks for the commentary. We must never forget this horrible travesty of the law, and must keep fighting the good fight for the innocents.

    God bless all the people who are marching. Our hearts and prayers are with you.

  • penguin2

    for they are our infants; a genocide “a civilized” society has visited upon its’ people. No words, only tears….

  • JadedByPolitics

    and whenever they try to do so WE SHALL RISE UP and deny them that final indignation on our Great Nation!

  • mtnrunner2

    I am an advocate of limited government, but I part ways with conservatives on this one.

    Conservatives need to learn that America is not a theocracy, and that freedom can only be preserved by advocating reason, not trying to slip Christian beliefs into the Constitution. That’s one reason why the GOP has lost scads of independent voters, and things like 2008 happen.

    An ideology of blind, mystical obedience to a man in the sky cannot be used to support a politics of rationally thinking, freely acting individuals (capitalism). Anti-reason and obedience cannot defend freedom. On the contrary, it will lead to an authoritarian theocracy, i.e. fascism, if put into practice. What makes you think obedience to a supreme being can lead to anything other than obedience in politics?

    And if you think the Founders wanted to push Christianity, you are totally dropping the historical context. The first Americans were escaping the enforcement of religion by England. The Founders did not want that to happen again. In their view, religion was a private matter to be protected, but not promoted actively.

    Jeff Montgomery

  • mtnrunner2

    I am an advocate of limited government, but I part ways with conservatives on this one.

    Conservatives need to learn that America is not a theocracy, and that freedom can only be preserved by advocating reason, not trying to slip Christian beliefs into the Constitution. That’s one reason why the GOP has lost scads of independent voters, and things like 2008 happen.

    An ideology of blind, mystical obedience to a man in the sky cannot be used to support a politics of rationally thinking, freely acting individuals (capitalism). Anti-reason and obedience cannot defend freedom. On the contrary, it will lead to an authoritarian theocracy, i.e. fascism, if put into practice. What makes you think obedience to a supreme being can lead to anything other than obedience in politics?

    And if you think the Founders wanted to push Christianity, you are totally dropping the historical context. The first Americans were escaping the enforcement of religion by England. The Founders did not want that to happen again. In their view, religion was a private matter to be protected, but not promoted actively.

    Jeff Montgomery

  • AngryMatt

    I have a son who was born at 25 weeks gestation. He was less than two pounds at birth. We saw many kids in the NICU over the course of the 4.5 months he spent in the hospital who were born at similar times and even a couple that were born a bit earlier.

    It sickens me to think that these little babies would, at that age, still even be vulnerable to murder if a woman simply thought they were a nuisance! These kids were tiny, they needed help from machines to eat and breathe, as did my son, but they were alive! And if they were alive at less than two pounds, they were alive from the moment of conception. They’re either living human beings who have unalienable rights at conception or they never have those rights, even after birth.

    Abortion is not only the murder of an individual, but the murder of the collective identity of humanity. Just as slavery here in early America, the Holocaust in Nazi Germany, and the purges of the Soviet Union not only cheapened the meaning of life for those who were the victims but also cheapened the lives of those who committed those great crimes, so does abortion today. If the lives and the inherent rights of innocents are not worth defending, then neither are the rights of the already born worth defending.

    May God forgive us of the evil of abortion, an evil which even those who support it take great strides to keep hidden from everyday life, and may He help us in the struggle to defend all life from conception to natural death. And may He accept my thanks for saving my little boy, healing him and allowing him to grow up to be the beautiful, smart, talkative, hilarious and mobile little 20 month old he is today.

  • LisaDe

    From someone who is unable to concieve and unable to afford the 30,000+ dollars needed to adopt a child from a foriegn country, it kills me to think that a beautiful child is thrown in the trash every second of the day.

  • LisaDe

    From someone who is unable to concieve and unable to afford the 30,000+ dollars needed to adopt a child from a foriegn country, it kills me to think that a beautiful child is thrown in the trash every second of the day.

  • AngryMatt

    Human beings have inherent rights, regardless of whether you believe in God or not. We are all born with the right to life, liberty and ownership of property. Our Constitution codified those rights, but those rights are self-evident as the Declaration said.

    When a child is conceived, he has unique DNA and as we all know, it is that genetic code that makes us identifiable as human and as unique persons. That child has the right to life, there can be no mistaking that. That child has a beating heart just weeks after conception, many times even before a woman really knows she is pregnant. You know, as well as I do, that a woman is not carrying a little mass of cells. She’s carrying a child and that child has the same rights as the already born. If that unborn child has no right to life, then neither do we.

    I totally agree that we should not turn this nation into a theocracy. Even as a devout Catholic I think that would be terrible; theocracies corrupt both civil government and the religious institutions. That perspective is one of the reasons I’m strongly anti-Huckabee. But this is about preserving the lives of children, children who have the right to live just as we all do, but whose lives are snuffed out because they are viewed as an inconvenience. And that is a terrible evil, even for those who do not believe in God.

  • gekster
  • AngryMatt

    We are all “created” with the right to life, liberty and personal ownership of property. Those rights do not come from birth, but from the moment we come into existence as unique human persons.

  • revolutionary

    What we must remember is that every day our Republican Representatives remain silent on this issue, is one more day towards the acceptance of this as a way of life. Things might not change and people would get tired of hearing it all the time, but there would be no mistake in knowing that we will not sit by while our country is hijacked. We have to show those for this that intimidation will not work and that we are not afraid. I used to think that this was none of my business until I saw the devastation it caused the mother afterwards. It is something she never forgets and has a hard time forgiving in herself. What a sad commentary on America that we have become so numb to that kind of destruction to the human soul. What a shame that many of us fear persecution for speaking out against the murdering of innocents. God have mercy on us…it is the best we can hope for.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/solemnoath Veronica Estrada
  • http://funworksfunzone.com Roger_Allan

    We’re supposed to be respectful to others on this site and God (yes I said God, get over it) knows we try to be but with you, my friend, it is going to be a challenge.

    This is not about a theocracy. It is about the basics of right and wrong. Murder in this country has been illegal from day one. 37 years ago, the Supreme Court made is legal to murder the most indefensible and innocent of all possible murder victims.

    We make laws to protect our society. You know, things like you can’t steal and annoying stuff like that. We make those laws to maintain order. If we were to tear up all those laws we would have anarchy. Protecting life is the most basic of our responsibilities and the fact that we don’t protect the life yet to be born is inexcusable and beyond tragic.

    This is not about pushing Christianity, this is about protecting life itself. This is about restoring our countries respect for life. How sad is it that we put more value on the life of a terrorist that wants to destroy us than we do an innocent unborn child that has yet to even see the light of day?

    Now this is where I risk the wrath of the Directors…

    Take you dribble to Huffington Post. They will welcome you there with open arms.

  • gekster

    “The evidence of [the] natural right [of expatriation], like that
    of our right to life, liberty, the use of our faculties, the
    pursuit of happiness, is not left to the feeble and sophistical
    investigations of reason, but is impressed on the sense of every
    man. We do not claim these under the charters of kings or
    legislators, but under the King of Kings.” –Thomas Jefferson to
    John Manners, 1817.

  • Slightly_Askew

    One does not have to be a Christian, or religious whatsoever, to recognize that destroying an infant is barbaric. You speak of reason, yet you support the illogical notion that killing a child is acceptable so long as the child is of a certain age, when that age is completely arbitrary.

    I know, don’t feed the trolls, but I tire of people assuming that because I think killing babies is wrong, I must be some bible-thumping zealot.

  • jcincy

    Forgetting the religious point of view for a moment, Jeff.

    The child inside of the mother’s womb is still a human. Killing a human is wrong. There is no justification for this.

    Some states even have laws that will give a murderer two counts murder if he kills a woman with child.

    It defies logic and science to attempt to suggest an unborn child is not afforded the right to life. Not to mention the right to life is found in the Declaration of Independence “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/solemnoath Veronica Estrada

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/6034949/Atheism-Is-Protected-As-a-Religion-says-Court-

    And it pushes atheism in it’s “secularity” over Christianity, picking one religion over another.

    Very interesting how you try to be adept at defining political freedom of thought..

    Yet you, in your absolutist ignorance, don’t mind defining Christianity — chaining her inside a thought-box for the rest of us — as a “blind, mystical obedience to a man in the sky.”

    Hypocrite.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/solemnoath Veronica Estrada
  • gekster

    “Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have
    removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the
    people that these liberties are of the gift of God?” –Thomas
    Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

    and I can go on and on,
    and just from Jefferson alone.

    This country was founded on Judo/Christian beliefs.
    And when we ignore and refuse to recognise that,
    well then we get what we have today.
    and when you said:
    “The first Americans were escaping the enforcement of religion by England.”
    That is very narrow minded. They were escaping for religious freedom.
    Not from religion.

  • Achance

    Just felt like you had to drop in and enlighten us? Do a little consciousness raising? Like most useful idiots, I don’t know if you’re really stupid, perhaps your synapses fire quickly, you may not even be ignorant, but most of what you do know is wrong. That whole diatribe is left wing cant that probably any one of us here could recite if we were inclined to look as foolish as you do.

    I for one am not a Christian and haven’t been inside a church in forty years for anything other than weddings and funerals. So, I’m not looking to either set up or live in a theocracy. None of us here are fascists. The fascists are on your side of the poltical ditch and Comrade Obama is working at a frenzied pace to incorporate American business to the will and in some cases the direct control and ownership of the Democrat Party and their allies. Go look up National Socialism and see both how the NSDAP came to power and how they got control of German industry. You’ll fiind it to be a familiar strategy if you’re smart enough to understand it. ‘Course, your professors didn’t teach any of that because they’re all either useful idiots like your or active fellow travellers like Ayers and his ilk.

    Now, go away, you’ll be much happier with the rest of the useful idiots over at Kos, HuffPo, or some similar lefty cesspool.

  • ultraconservative

    I have decided to quite lurking and finally post my first comment; primarily, because this subject always evokes such strong feelings in me. I find it incomprehensible that anyone with an iota of compassion and moral decency cannot recognize a fetus/embryo as a legitimate and viable living being. I have seen the horrendous images of abortion and as a Catholic and father of two wonderful children, I cannot express the overwhelming sense of joy and awe at hearing the child’s heartbeat at 10 weeks in the doctor’s office…that is a heartbeat!! The distinction between murder and legal abortion being whether or not a CHILD has traversed a 6- to 8-inch canal is a travesty. I pray for an end to all abortion.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • realskinny

    from the moment of conception is a unique individual. No one before, and no one after, will ever be exactly the same. When that individual dies, whether 3 months later or 80 years later, it is the death of an individual human being. Only someone extremely ignorant and oblivious or a psychopath could view the mass slaughter of 50 million Americans with equanimity.

  • Dave_in_Fla

    But let me relate a personal story.

    My wife grew up in California in the 60s. While she is no longer a Democrat, she is still pro-choice. My daughter is the typical college liberal, reliably pro-choice.

    I have never discussed my reasoning with being pro-life with them. They knew about it, but I have kept quiet on the topic, and most husbands do when they know they are in the minority among the women in their lives.

    One day, they both looks at me, and asked, “Why are you pro-life?” It was the first time they had ever come out straight and asked me.

    I told them, “Back in 1960, my mother was unmarried and pregnant. She was living by herself at the Naval Station in Newport, RI. She gave birth to me in the Naval Hospital there, and put me up for private adoption to my parents. I am 100% convinced that if abortion were legal in 1960, I would not be alive.”

    This story really hit them hard in a way they had never before considered. They now completely respect my position, and I do feel my wife is starting to move toward the pro-life position.

  • itrytobenice

    It is sad to think of all the children who have been killed by uncaring or deceived parents, but it is also terribly heartbreaking to think of all the people yearning to raise a baby who have been denied the chance.

    May you yet be blessed with the desires of your heart.

  • revolutionary

    Something like that hits home with the people you love. My mother was in much the same situation…only it was 1973 and the option was too late for her (I was born in April). By the grace of God she decided to keep me and 37 years later we are the best of friends. My mother was/is fiercly independent and is much more liberal than I care to admit, but I am confident that had she had an abortion…she would be a shell of her former self. Lucky for you that your mother knew enough to give you to loving parents that provided you a chance in life! If only we could get that message to these scared young girls who think abortion is the only option for them.

  • Richard Mullins

    To be Pro-choice is to accept part of the Progressive agenda. You can’t be Pro-choice and limited government at the same time. It has bearing in Christianity but it is murder in purest form and the denial of it is very weak. I take it you seem to be a recovering progressive or maybe you’re just minions send to tell why were wrong. I really don’t think understand the constitution at all and you aligned with those that want to get rid of it.

  • MrMosis

    With a double post. We all derive our values from somewhere. Some from Divine Revelation. Some from tingles and emotions. At least recognize (from your point of view) that your values are necessarily as arbitrarily arrived at as those with an obedience to the sky man.

    But as for the issue at hand, how do YOU decide when a life begins and warrants protection? And why is YOUR answer the “right” answer? How is it that you arrived at this [what you believe to be] non-arbitrary position? Why ought the rest of us hold to the same value?

    Really though, please keep your theocratic ideas to yourself. I don’t think you should be pushing the culture and religion of death on the whole lot of us.

  • JadedByPolitics

    a VALUABLE MEMBER of society is taken away from US :)

  • freedomfighterforliberty

    IF NOT FOR THE MERCY AND LONG SUFFERING OF GOD I’M SURE HE WOULD STRIKE US DOWN FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING BY MURDERING THE INNOCENT. OUR NATION HAS BEEN DIVIDED BY THE VERY PEOPLE THAT ARE TO PROTECT LIFE, THE ELECTED LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY, IT’S JUDGES, COURTS, VARIOUS CHURCH DENOMINATIONS AND IT’S LEADERS.

    TO USE AN EXAMPLE LETS TAKE A LOOK AT NOTRE DAME. THEY INVITED PRESIDENT OBAMA TO SPEAK AT GRADUATION AND RECEIVE A DEGREE. HOW WRONG WAS THIS? AS STRONG AS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND MOST OF IT’S BISHOPS AND LEADERS FEEL ABOUT THE MURDER OF THE INNOCENT, THEIR PRESIDENT FATHER JOHN JENKINS REMAINS IN HIS JOB AND DEFIANTLY WENT AGAINST THE WILL OF THE CHURCH,IT’S LEADERS AND PARISHIONERS.

    UNTIL THE PEOPLE RISE AND STAND UP AS THEY DID IN MASSACHUSETTS THIS PAST TUESDAY ELECTION DAY, THE MURDER OF THE INNOCENT WILL CONTINUE.

    WHEN YOU VOTE THIS NOVEMBER YOU NEED TO REMEMBER ALL THE INNOCENT LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN AWAY.

    GOD HAVE MERCY ON US AS A PEOPLE AND AS A NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!PRAY THAT GOD WILL CONVICT THE HARDENED HEARTS OF THE DOCTORS AND WORKERS THAT PERFORM ABORTIONS AND THE ELECTED LEADERS AND OFFICIALS IN OUR COUNTRY TO REVERSE THEIR ACTIONS AND MOVE OVER ON THE SIDE WHERE LIFE LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bob_Frazier

    I remember the day this decision was announced. I remember thinking “today its now legal to kill a baby in the womb in the United States of America”. I was 13 years old and immediately began an intense life long interest in politics with the goal of helping turn this decision around. As long as I live I will fight this evil, and I hope I live to see the day that it is ended.

  • JadedByPolitics

    it is RELIGION that makes a person against abortion. I say again you being an IDIOT makes youWRONG! it is MURDER straight up all you need to see is that image of the baby in his mom’s stomach on sonogram to KNOW that it is a HUMAN BEING who is being slaughtered.

    WE on the RIGHT are going to win this battle one person at a time and then you LEFTISTS will just have to hit your murderous states on the coasts to KILL YOUR BABIES!

    OBTW keep off the LIFE threads you TOOL!

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    We don’t need to reach for the I word right away.

  • Warrior

    First of all, no “right” to abortion existed in the Constitution for nearly two hundred years. If anything was “slipped into the Constitution” it was an unmentioned, unintentioned decree, based on the religion of secular humanism, that somehow killing babies in the womb was O.K. It took the ridiculous citation of “emanations and penumbras” to create such a monstrosity in the first place.

    So, again I say, Nonsense. The Declaration of Independence suggested that,

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. ? That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,…”

    Got that? “Life”. Not “Death”.

    As far as gubmint’s relationship to religion, the Founders simply didn’t want anyone FORCED to follow and contribute to a State religion. Indeed, many states did endorse state religions. And make no mistake, most of the Founders of this country were Christians or at least believed in God (a “supreme being.”)

    These were Honorable men. They didn’t pledge, and often lose, their Lives, Fortunes and Sacred Honor in order to secure a right to murder inconvenient life in the womb.

    And I imagine, the loss of “scads of independent voters” had very little to do with the GOP’s platform on abortion.

    And this from you:
    “An ideology of blind, mystical obedience to a man in the sky cannot be used to support a politics of rationally thinking, …”

    First of all, that is not a description of any religion with which I am familiar. Secondly, you think killing babies in the womb for convenience sake is rational? Sorry, you’ll have to explain that one to me.

    Next, you opine:
    “Anti-reason and obedience cannot defend freedom. On the contrary, it will lead to an authoritarian theocracy i.e. fascism, if put into practice.”

    No, what leads people to believe in giant lies like fascism is NOT believing in God. As G.K.Chesterton put it so well, “When men stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in ANYTHING.” Like the idea that bloody abortions are somehow “rational.”

    Finally, you say this:
    “What makes you think obedience to a supreme being can lead to anything other than obedience in politics?”

    Actually, it’s the other way around. Rejection of a supreme being leads to the things you fear. Hitler opposed Christianity with a vigor. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a leading Christian opponent of the Nazis, was clapped into concentration camps and finally executed at Flossenburg in April of ’45. Stalin brutally suppressed religion.

    Today, statist tyrannies throughout the globe persecute Christians and other religions (e.g. Viet Nam, China, Myanmar etc.). Why? Because dictators and statists fear nothing so much as folks who believe in a power greater than the state.

    I thought this “wall of separation” thing had been beaten to death on RS by now, but I guess not. Jefferson was responding to a letter from the (numerical minority) Danbury Baptists of Connecticut about their religious rights being squeezed by a state which favored another religion more. Quoting www.free2pray.info:

    “Jefferson simply quotes the First Amendment then uses a metaphor, the “wall”, to separate the government from interfering with religious practice. Notice that the First Amendment puts Restrictions only on the Government, not the People! The Warren Court re-interpreted the First Amendment thus putting the restrictions on the People! Today the government can stop you from Praying in school, reading the Bible in school, showing the Ten Commandments in school, or have religious displays at Christmas.

    This is quite different from the wall Jefferson envisioned, protecting the people from government interference with Religious practice. When Thomas Jefferson wrote his letter to the Danbury Baptist Association he never intended the words “Separation of Church and State” to be taken out of context and used as a substitute for the First Amendment, but for all practical purposes is what the courts have done.”

    Also, in order to refute your idea that these were somehow irreligious people, from the same source:

    “If actions speak stronger then words, it is interesting to note that 3 days after Jefferson wrote those words, he attended church in the largest congregation in North America at the time. This church held its weekly worship services on government property, in the House Chambers of the U.S. Capital Building. The wall of separation applies everywhere in the country even on government property , without government interference. This is how it is written in the Constitution, this is how Thomas Jefferson understood it from his letter and actions, and this is how the men who wrote the Constitution practiced it.”

    AS if that weren’t enough, John Adams sealed it with:
    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

    Perhaps that is why you are having so much trouble with a realistic interpretation of the establishment clause…

  • E Pluribus Unum

    What we’ve done with respect to Iraq and Haiti will define us.

  • Dave_in_Fla

    But I do tend to avoid these threads. Abortion is a very personal and dark topic for me. I prefer not to think about it.

  • doublebarreled

    …and I don’t think it will be lifted until abortion is abolished.

    How many potential scholars, artists, doctors, actors, politicians, plumbers, electricians, carpenters, chefs, etc. have been sacrificed at the altar of someone’s “choice”?

    Which dead baby would have found the cure for Alzheimer’s? The key to faster than light travel? The breakthrough that harnesses 90% of the power of the sun in a solar panel to provide clean cheap power?

    The human potential that has been wasted because unelected judges decided that a man and a woman didn’t need to take responsibility for their action and behavior is staggering. I’m not necessarily against birth control, but when it fails, then you have to take responsibility for the consequences.

    Abortion is not settled law in my mind and we need to keep working to at least return the decision to make it legal or illegal to the States and let the people decide. I personally think abortion is unconstitutional and should be made illegal, but at least returning the decision to the States is a positive step towards eliminating it.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    As usual, your kind miss the whole point.

    The concept of ‘murder’ being societally and morally unacceptable, and the instinct toward protecting the young and innocent, are strongly defendable with or without relying on Christian tenets.

    And your conclusions about the intentions of the Founding Fathers are fatuous nonsense.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Thank you so much for putting this out here today.

  • 4life

    are somehow more valid than smaller humans is sick really.

  • mriggio

    But your post reeks of strawman and red herring.

    Current abortion policy in our country is blatantly morally wrong and quite legally indefensible, without regard to any religion. Policy regardng abortion is at best a matter for each state to decide.

    Pro-life beliefs are not unreasonable, nor evidence of ‘blind, mystical obedience to a man in the sky’. Simply because many pro-life advocates also possess strong religious convictions doesn’t prove one causes the other; correlation isn’t causation. Snark endears you to no one.

    I have neither the time nor the patience to explore your moral philosophy; I assume you ground your sense of right and wrong in something other than religion. Whatever that grounding might be, does it truly cause you to see those emanations and penumbras the rest of us cannot find in our Constitution?

    If you believe that life begins at conception, then abortion is murder. If you do not believe life begins at conception, your reasoning escapes me, and we simply must agree to disagree.

    This is logic; it has nothing whatsoever to do with slipping beliefs into the Constitution or pushing Christianity (or any other religion) on anyone.

  • lockedandloaded

    Homeostasis
    Organisation
    Metabolism
    Growth
    Adaption
    Response to Stimuli
    Reproduction

    The criteria for life – all of which are exhibited by a baby in the womb (except for reproduction of course, but even two-year-old born humans can’t do that yet).

    Also, there is no equal protection under the law where men are concerned. Women don’t get pregnant without the man playing a part, yet he has no rights when the mother decides to commit the act.

    One last point: It absolutely defies logic to believe that an unborn child could be legally extinguished as in abortion or illegally extinguished as in any other murder.

    There simply is no reasoning with evil.

    Science too is the Providence of Almighty God.

  • lockedandloaded

    Homeostasis
    Organisation
    Metabolism
    Growth
    Adaption
    Response to Stimuli
    Reproduction

    The criteria for life – all of which are exhibited by a baby in the womb (except for reproduction of course, but even two-year-old born humans can’t do that yet).

    Also, there is no equal protection under the law where men are concerned. Women don’t get pregnant without the man playing a part, yet he has no rights when the mother decides to commit the act.

    One last point: It absolutely defies logic to believe that an unborn child could be legally extinguished as in abortion or illegally extinguished as in any other murder.

    There simply is no reasoning with evil.

    Science too is the Providence of Almighty God.

  • 4life

    a program where people willing to adopt, who lack the financial resources, can receive donated funds to cover a large portion of the adoption. And, in fact there may be other options as well. There is a program called ‘snowflake adoption’ where frozen embryos can be adopted so the adoptive mother can give birth to her adopted child. I have no idea how expensive that is, though.

  • 4life

    So true, so true. It grieves me to see how the hearts and minds of many Americans are blind to the truth. I read Uncle Tom’s Cabin recently and thought of our current fight against abortion from the first page to the last. We need a Harriet Beecher Stowe!! Abortion, like slavery, must be made illegal. We cannot continue on in this way. We must put an end to it! Bravo, Directors, beautifully written.

  • penguin2

    shed tears when reading, is hard to swallow. BTW, what is the “I” word? I must be on brain freeze. I’ll accept Gandalf’s wisdom on this, but only because you note it.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    We just want to scale back the namecalling around here.

    if he persists in being an idiot we’ll gack him. It’s easier that way. :-)

  • Warrior

    to an unwed woman on welfare. I sho’ ’nuff would have been aborted had it been legal…

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com hugoestrada

    The Founding Fathers understood that certain Rights are unalienable, “among these being Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Hapiness.”

    They are given to us, not from any form of government, and must be seen as coming from man’s Creator, as defined in the Declaration of Independence, the founding document of this great nation.

    There has to be a higher form of authority aside from man or government, because whatever rights the government gives, the government can also take away.

    And without Life being the primary inalienable Rght, all other rights are meaningless and baseless and are subject to redefinition by the whims of any man or government.

    This is “reason” working in conjunction with morality based on faith in a higher authority than any man or form of government.

  • blooch

    there’s a either a Darwinfish on his car, or his mom complains about the one he put on hers.

  • jfindl2

    Personally, I am a fiscal conservative and frankly I don’t really care about the issue of abortion. With this being said, saying that conservatives are trying to make America into a theocracy by overturning Roe is BS. Roe v Wade is one of the most illogical and poorly ruled cases in the history of the Supreme Court. Where does it say there is a right to privacy in the Constitution? Oh wait, in 1972 the justices just wrote it into existence. Overturning Roe would be a victory for sane jurisprudence.
    Also, you seem to assume that those who are pro-life are automatically in favor of some sort of theocracy mixed with fascism. I don’t know where you get this idea, frankly its pretty offensive and totally misguided.

  • Warrior

    difficult and dangerous to adopt by returning adopted children to bio parents who pop up out of the woodwork and demand their “babies” back.

    No one wants to invest one, two, three or more years in a baby, financially, emotionally, socially, just to have some airhead judge hand him or her back to a stinking crackhead who has figured out they can “draw a check” for the kid.

    Also, we don’t have to go through the courts to stop abortion. The Congress can declare that such matters are not in the purview of the SCOTUS and simply pass a law saying that it is a decision rightfully belonging to the individual states.

    THAT’S WHY ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. And that’s why we need to elect people of intgrity, not weather vanes like Arlen Specter…

  • Icythus

    On this day, of all days, pro-abort drive-bys like yourself who raised their heads would summarily be banned, if I had my druthers. Since (for good reason) I’m not a moderator, and because your comment is so full of error as to boggle the mind, I will respond to one point only.

    There is no intrinsic good in the concept of limited government. The point of limited government is not to protect limited government, but to protect human dignity. When government action (such as egregious taxation or supression of political speech) infringes on human dignity, the power of government must be paired back and limited. When government inaction presents a direct assault on that same dignity (such as when murder, both in utero, and ex, or theft occur), then the people have a responsibility to compell the government to take action, or else find a new government.

  • olddog

    reactions be if headlines read,
    50 million plus, Americans, killed by terrorists as a result of a fundamental right wing extremist law.
    and another note : more than seventy percent of abortion clinics are in or adjacent to minority neighborhoods, where is the racism outcry? It should be a roar of outrage, by black and Hispanic American leaders! In their silence you find complicity,
    Didn’t Ginsburg state, she voted for Roe v Wade because certain types shouldn’t be allowed to breed, or to that effect , had a conservative, said that, they would have been pilloried.
    Support our Troops
    One Old Dog

  • angryred

    this was exceptional to read. I posted something similar on my facebook today and an getting flamed royally by my “friends”.

    It is painful at times to bear witness, but necessary.

    when you see that tiny hearbeat just a few weeks after conception, my God! how is that NOT a person.

    And when that heartbeat stops it is the most painful thing in the world.

    I thank God for my 3 children and pray for those lost.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    Jeff, if the life of a fetus has no legally protected value, why does yourrs or mine?

    We all of us walk through the Valley of The Shadow of Death, and one of those days, if we continue to cheapen the value of all other life, the only way we’ll make it out alive is to be the biggest $*$&#&#-&*&^er in that entire valley.

    I don’t know you aside from your snaky, obnoxious tripe, but I’m somehow doubting you qualify.

  • penguin2

    post above. I would not call him names, but when someone deliberately comes here and stabs a knife into a diary like this, it stabbed our hearts.

    It looks like he is anti-Republican, anti-conservative, anti-religion, and pro-abortion. I think he managed to hit us on everything.

  • MrMosis

    I would so love to see if his/her head explodes when he/she reads these many great comments. Particularly the 2nd paragraph above. But I guess that assumes there would be some level of comprehension, which his rigorous belief system may preclude.

  • JadedByPolitics

    Neil the IDIOT word comes out when it is so OBVIOUS to those of us who love LIFE recognize that he comes in to MOCK and BELITTLE and then I note that the first person to respond wanted to not get hard on the poster unfortunately I don’t have those social graces.

  • Aaron Gardner

    I think back to the pregnancy test that came up positive, and the joy it brought me. I think about the first day I heard his heartbeat, and the instantaneous affection I felt at that moment. I think about that first ultrasound, and the picture I have kept in my wallet since then. I think about all the kicks and punches, gently raising from my wifes belly. I think about the books I have read to my son in utero. I think about, in anticipation, that first moment when I can hear his voice, hold him in my arms, and welcome him to a world of endless possibilities.

    I think about these things and I weep.

    I weep for the millions of fathers and mothers who never had the chance to experience these moments because convenience has replaced long held convictions that life is a gift from God. I weep for the children who never saw life and never knew their mother and fathers love. I weep for my nation having become a place where killing children can be rationalized.

    I weep because my conscience would allow nothing less.

    I weep.

  • erod
  • erod
  • blooch

    but he’ll live on in my sig line for awhile.

  • http://www.patrickscartoons.com Patrick_Murdock

    1. Everyone alive today was at one time in their lives just one cell, then two…..
    2. If an abortion had been performed on any of us while in our mother’s womb, we would not be here today.
    3. No one who favors abortion (or any one at all for that matter) has any chance of having the procedure performed on them.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I’d say hit and run is grounds for a bad faith ban.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    You clearly had no intention of discussing and engaging our community. Rather, you dropped a bomb and bailed.

    That’s trolling and I won’t stand for it.

  • penguin2

    I almost should not post a reply and have it stand alone. Those of us here do indeed weep with the painful knowledge of what has transpired in the past 37yrs.

    May God Bless you and your wife and your children.

  • INC

    for sharing your story with us.

  • Aaron Gardner
  • aesthete

    I won’t go on about how opposition to abortion has nothing to do with religion or theocracy. What I will go on about is the historical context of anti-abortion laws, or more specifically, how their enactment in Great Britain and its 19th-century appendages (both former and current) had little to do with God, and much more to do with a recent scientific discovery asserting that a fetus was, in fact, alive. The Offenses Against Persons Act in Great Britain was the result of physicians and social reformers lobbying against the killing of something that was, indeed, alive and human (what else could it be?), and the law in Britain was largely emulated by its colonies (such as Canada, New Zealand, Australia, etc.). This sparked debate in the US and other former colonies of GB, and some variant of anti-abortion law was passed in many states. It wasn’t until the 80′s that the “pro-life” cause was defended using explicitly religious arguments (at least, in the US and the UK). In fact, abortion has more in common with slavery, not only in benign tolerance of institutional evil, but also in its opponents in the 19th century.

  • INC

    about the horror and tragedy of abortion.

  • aesthete

    This scientific discovery is far from disproven in the present; indeed, evidence such as the fact that a fetus has unique DNA at conception further corroborate pro-lifers’ case.

  • muffin

    First of all, congratulations to you and your wife for your blessed son to be born. I can feel your love for him through your powerful words.

    Second, your post brought tears to my eyes. If anyone even considering an abortion could read your post, they would have reason to pause and realize exactly what they were doing. Each child is precious.

    Last, my parents had a quick wedding because I was an unexpected surprise. If my Mom had decided to get an abortion, I wouldn’t be here today. I am thankful for my life.

    God Bless You and Your Family!

  • aesthete

    fulfilled by a fetus — cell production counts as scientific reproduction.

    Great post, btw.

  • Aaron Gardner
  • izoneguy

    My best friend from high school was married right after college.

    Mitch was about 23 when he married Lisa.
    I remember one night he called my up and wanted to talk.
    Lisa was pregnant but he said they did not feel “ready”.
    A few weeks later Lisa had an abortion.

    A few years went by and Mitch & Lisa had their first child, a girl.
    A few years later on they had a son.
    I visited when I could. Seems like when your friends have
    kids they get real busy and forget about their bachelor friends.

    Mitch would call on occasion and sometimes would talk about the
    regret of his wife having an abortion, wondering what that 14 year old child might have been doing with his/her brother & sister.

    I finally got married late in life and after my first son was born I sent
    Mitch a photo of my son and we had talked about getting together.
    Another year went by and about one month after my son’s first birthday, I received a call.

    It was about Mitch – he had committed suicide.

    I talked with his wife at the funeral. Anger – that was her only feeling that day. I talked with Mitch’s parents who I had know since I was 17 years old. No one saw it coming. Who knows if the abortion had played a role in the suicide. No notes – no nothing.

    Just an empty place where life once was.

  • Achance

    I can think of a pretty good list of abortions I’d like to perform in, say, the hundredth or so trimester

  • kyoufuu

    To not indicate such a fact would be deceptive and counter-productive. We are lucky to live in a country where everyone is entitled to hold different opinions, and yet still be civil. Because of my belief you can villify me is you must. But I am also not of the belief that those who are pro-life are bible-thumping theocrats.

    I applaud the efforts of those who are pro-life to defend the rights of those who cannot defend themselves.

    With that out of the way, let me say the following:

    I oppose partial birth abortion and live birth abortion.

    I oppose federal funding for abortions.

    I also believe that Roe v. Wade was an abomination of justice in every way imaginable. The court created a right out of thin air, a right not enumerated in the constitution, for the purpose of convenience to reach its result. The decision has always smacked of judicial laziness, that the justices first reached a decision, and then had to find ways to connect the dots to reach that decision. Their decision was painful blow against the 10th amendment. A law which should have been left to the individual states and their peoples, as the founders had imagined, was put into effect by a nonlegislating body that day Roe v. Wade was decided.

  • proudmarinemom

    play piano at age 5 years and tell me that we humans have the right and the wisdom and the foresight to decide which child should be born and which should be kept from this world:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpzQsJkC3u0

    Watch more videos of her. She may be the next W.A. Mozart.

  • janis

    When my first grandchild was on the way, at an inconvenient moment, several relatives of mine suggested that it would be much better to “do something about it.” And these were people who are supposedly devout Christians.

    Looking at my two young grandchildren today– who have learned to pray for those same relatives who considered them an inconvenience– I cannot imagine our lives without these precious children. What joy and laughter and love they bring into our days! For those who dispose of lives such as these, they will never know what potential for joy they have killed.

  • kyoufuu

    That the sickening industry surrounding abortion is a result of failed Democratic policies, i.e. teaching promiscuity to kids through media, keeping minorities held captive to the state’s teat, pushing a culture of convenience rather than personal responsibility, etc.

  • blooch

    And while you’re at it, could you tell kto959 to dial it back on the Bachmann thread? He’s sounding mobyish.

  • audax

    What a distorted view of our founding history….They founders wanted the FREEDOM to PRACTICE their OWN religion FREE of the STATE!

    I am not a Christian but a FREE THINKER and even I can see the IMMORALITY of killing little babies! There was NO ambiguity about this when 25 years ago I watched my daughter take her first breathe of LIFE while standing there with my chemo on a pole wondering if I would wake up the next morning to enjoy this new gift, let alone watch her grow up! Grow up as a citizen of a nation whose founding document gave us all (Through Divine Providence -GOD) the right to “LIFE, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”.

    Why should any taxpayer in a FREE Society have to pay for someone elses poor decision making?? For their immorality? For the murder of the unborn?

    Grow a pair Jeff Montgomery! Life isn’t easy!

  • audax

    AMEN!

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    Ultrasound video from even the earliest weeks confirms the truth of their humanity in everyone’s heart. Check out You Tube’s countless examples. It all comes down to a matter of perceived immediate convenience weighed against the life of the most vulnerable and innocent. How can any issue in public policy today rise above this one?

  • Aaron Gardner
  • dellbabe68

    Thanks for posting this.

  • misterbill

    Many years ago, a young coworker–a friend–came to me and told me she was pregnant. She asked for help from me–not financial–she wanted to keep it secret and she needed someone to drive her to the hospital and pick her up two days later and take her home. (She had once date my kid brother.) I did it for her. I felt good that she trusted me. She told me it was a boy.

    It is thirty years later. Hardly a day goes by that I do not think of it. It is a sin against God and against man. I will carry it to my grave. I have lived a decent, Christian life. I wish I had not helped. Instead of being flattered by her trust in me, I wish I had asked her to not get the abortion.

    Some may not believe, but I will stand before God one day and pay for my sin.

    Mitch may have had the sorrow of knowing he helped to end a helpless human life. I know it well. May God have mercy on his soul and grant him forgiveness.
    P.S. I am not a bible thumper, nor do I try to proselytize others, but I am a believer.

  • INC

    and awful for his family and for you and his other friends.

    Are you familiar with the Silent No More Awareness Campaign?

    …an effort to make the public aware of the devastation abortion brings to women, men, and their families.

    Their site says they having speakers this afternoon.

    Famed actress Jennifer O?Neill, civil rights activist Dr. Alveda King, and 45 Silent No More women and men from across the country will testify to their abortion experiences this Friday at 3:00 pm in front of the Supreme Court Building.

    May their words bring some healing to people like your friend and his wife.

  • revolutionary

    If only we could somehow get that message across to these potential parents and let them know that we have all been in their shoes, one way or another. I was married for four years before having my first child and we were scared to death! I became pregnant at the most inconvenient of times and we were poor as church mice, but because of the love and support from everyone around us, we knew we would somehow make it. If only your message of the absolute joy that can come from parenting could be conveyed to these men and women making those decisions, there could possibly be a turn around. What a beautiful statement on the gifts we are given known as children.

  • muffin

    Have you seen the trailer for this movie? Here’s the link to the site:

    http://www.bloodmoneyfilm.com/

    This is gut wrenching.

  • jayburd

    Do you believe in individual rights? Then tell me, is that an individual, that little thumbsucker at the top of the page? Culture of inconvenience? Should we kill that little thumbsucker so we can have an extra Beemer and some personal watercraft in the driveway? It all comes down to money. Economic security. Oh what a grand way to place a value on human life! I prefer the death penalty for murderers myself. A far more exacting and effective way to place value on human life.!

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Who cares? What’s your point?

  • kyoufuu

    that there is common ground and common causes to be found even when there are differences in ideology. We can arrive at similar results even if we get there by different routes.

    What I’m saying is that I agree that Roe v. Wade was a poor decision, despite disagreeing about abortion itself. My point was simply to express my thoughts on the matter, as someone who is pro-choice, without saying “people who are pro-life are evil.”

    If nobody cares, fine. But there are bound to be many pro-choice Republicans out there, and I’m sure many of them share a similar opinion of Roe v. Wade that I do.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Don’t threadjack this one.

  • john_barry

    Thank you for a wonderful post on the slaughter of the innocents. There is no equivocation here. Just the blunt truth. 52 million American babies have been sentenced to death since Roe V Wade.

  • kyoufuu

    And I believe I did at some point in the past write a diary on this. It was awhile ago.

    You’ll have to forgive me. I thought this was a thread about Roe v. Wade and that it would be reasonable to post a comment about why I also disagree with the decision.

    Don’t worry. I won’t post a comment on this diary any more.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    I’m going to point something out though: If you think this post, titeld In Memoriam, is primarily about a Supreme Court case, and not about something more, you missed the entire point of the post.

    This post is occasioned by the Supreme Court case, but it is not about the case.

    It’s exactly like how on Veteran’s day we aren’t discussing the geopolitics of the Great War. We’re discussing something else.

  • oldphart

    UNNAMED

    My child never saw the sun in the sky.
    It never will laugh, it never will cry.
    Murdered before it could draw its first breath,
    Is there none on this earth who will mourn at this death?

    Like hope in the breast of a man condemned-
    Like an joyful flame dancing in the night-
    Like a flickering thought in an old fool’s head,
    So too was the life of my child.

    The long, long walk from cell to noose
    Trod ever so gently to hear the sound
    Of a saving pardon that never comes.
    The trap drops open, and hope falls through.

    The lamp burned brightly ’til darkened by hate,
    And the one charged by God with guarding the flame
    Abandoned her duty and snuffed out the light.
    Now He will be judging the worth of her life.

    The thought was conceived to awaken our love,
    But the love wasn’t hers, only mine.
    Now it lives in my heart; the thought, not the love,
    For my love has gone with the child.

    My child never saw the sun in the sky.
    It never will laugh, it never will cry.
    Murdered before it could draw its first breath,
    It only has me to mourn for its death.

    The “Unknown Father”
    Jan. 14, 1993

  • bs

    “In Memoriam” memorializes the slaughtered innocent children, not a court case.

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/solemnoath Veronica Estrada

    .. because I have never spoken to you directly and I lurk.

    It feels rather voyeur-ey and I don’t like it. Occassionally, I’ll chip in and say, thank you .. but this.

    So beautiful, so lovely. I’m so touched.

    We have 5 children, and with everyone, my fertility status was always checked by busy-bodies as though it were their business. “Are you sure”? was always the question, always asked -while- we were pregnant, as though we had a choice after conception, y’know?

    We started very young, too — at 20 — and we could have erased a soul and just ended everything, but didn’t. We loved and the family continued to grow.

    Thank you for your post. It makes me cry because we never, ever -still- get the confirmation that we did the right thing by having our babies. It’s always strangers who see what a happy, beautiful, vibrant little family we have.

    The world is made better by people like you, and I promise you, if you’re nervous or worried (because this might be your first, I’m not sure) you will be an excellent father who will nurture a wonderful famliy.

    The world is made better by people like you, and I promise you, you will be an excellent father and will nurture a wonderful famliy.

    God bless!

  • http://www.veronicaestrada.com/solemnoath Veronica Estrada

    when I was in college, my “virgin” roommate — who i thought I had many things in common with, being “virginal” (whatever) — was about the only person in our group who had a credit card.

    Early one week, she said she had plans to travel home over the weekend, to help her old school friend pay for an abortion, using her credit card.

    I didn’t say anything, I think I remember not wanting to obstruct the bond between us (being the only non-sexual ppl in our group), wanting to be loyal.

    But I was just thinking of myself.

    Not once did I think about chucking any discomfort I might have by telling her the truth I knew and what I felt in my heart. Not once did I think about telling her to go to hell if she helped murder a child.

    I was not courageous.

    So, now we speak. And if people decide my universal truth doesn’t suit them, so be it.

    Fight to the end.

    Ty, izone.

  • neyney

    The one child policy in China has resulted in an interesting dilemma. By limiting couples to only one child the abortion rate has skyrocked since the time of its inception. Why? Because China is largely an agregrarian and rural society and they need strong sons to help work the family farm and to perpetuate the family name. Therefore female fetus’ have been aborted at a rate of 3-1. This has had the inevitable result of creating a shortage of females in Chinese society. Now there are stories of kidnappings of females, murders over females, increasing homosexuality etc…Since men now outnumber women 3-1 the society is breaking down. Not to risk sounding all religious (I’m a Christian) but wouldn’t you call that reaping what has been sown? It stands to reason that abortion on it’s face is an evil practice and yes an immoral one as well.

  • revolutionary

    It broke my heart reading that poem. Somewhere someone felt that agony and was courageous enough to pen it. Tragic.

  • Aaron Gardner

    This is my second child. The first, my daughter Olivia will be 2 come March.

    Do not feel unworthy, your comment was a beautiful affirmation of your love for your family.

    One thing did strike me, and I would like to address it…

    Thank you for your post. It makes me cry because we never, ever -still- get the confirmation that we did the right thing by having our babies. It?s always strangers who see what a happy, beautiful, vibrant little family we have.

    When those babies look at you with nothing but love and joy in their eyes, that is the confirmation. You did, and continue to do the right thing, and you should be praised for that. These things do not go unnoticed by God.

    May He bless you and your family.

  • ctyankee44

    To anyone that chooses not to have an abortion… congratulations.
    To anyone that chooses to have an abortion… congratulations.

    To anyone that forces a person not wanting an abortion to have one… beware.

    To anyone that forces a person wanting an abortion to not have one… beware.

    What would overturning Roe v Wade accomplish? You’d make abortion a crime? Are you really that willing to restrict the rights of women? Would you prevent a pregnant woman from leaving the country? Would you ship her off to the pregnancy gulag to accomplish the ends? — That is frighteningly un-american!

  • eburke
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • eburke

    because they happen to be the result of the human reproductive process.

    Be glad your parents chose to give you life rather than to kill you.

  • eburke
  • muffin

    I’ve seen pics of the babies trying to escape from the vacuum. Horrible to see. I cried and vomited for a long time. More tears coming now.

  • neyney

    About 15 yrs ago a friend’s daughter need some cash for an abortion. I almost gave her the money and I’m glad that at the last minute I didn’t. I simply told my friend and her daughter that my conscience woudln’t let me aid in the killing of an unborn child. I didn’t hear back from them for a few weeks but out of the blue my friend called me and told me that between myself and several of her daughters friends she had decided not to have the abortion after all. Today her daughter is a beautiful young lady in high school and doing very well as is her mother. I’m sorry that your friend’s story didn’t end as well as my friend’s did.

  • neyney

    I know the argument has been made before but I’ll ask again. Why are pro-abortionists so ready to kill unborn children but will go to any length to protect the rights of terrorists and murderers. Cast in point Mumia Abu-Jamal.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu-Jamal

    How can anyone reconcile this?

  • neyney

    Meant to say agrerian.

    PIMF!

  • Leopard1996

    Because as I discussed on another thread with Mbecker, My opposition to Roe V. Wade was that this should have been an issue for the states and a community standard, not forced upon all of us. If you want to have the right to abortion under a Roe V. Wade overturn, move to Californina, NY, NJ, and a few other liberal states that would never tread on abortion and suffer the consequences of living in states wher businesses are leaving in droves, because with the “right” to abortion comes the high taxes and other liberal garbage that makes the producers go bye bye.

  • Richard Mullins

    for banning it. It seems to give leftists there best reason for raising taxes because they need to make up for lost taxpayers. Selling anti-abortion to those with no religious background, should consist of more abortions comes more taxes. It also doesn’t hurt to bring up the Progressive agenda as well. I’m sure the greatest way to kill abortions is to sully the idea of it.

  • fortcollins

    Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton were classic “bootstrap” rulings. Assuming that the Constitution included “unenumerated rights,” and assuming that such rights included the “right to privacy,” and assuming that privacy included “reproductive freedom,” the majority opinion concluded that reproductive freedom included the “right” to terminate another person’s life.

    Faced with the shallowness of that logic, the Court in Planned Parenthood v. Casey later appended this “right” to the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. That same clause has been the basis of Court rulings that guarantee directly or by “selective incorporation” extensive rights for persons accused of crimes.

    Thus it is the Court’s interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment that a serial pedophile who kidnaps, rapes, tortures, and dismembers a child is entitled to proper search warrants, clear charging instruments, a speedy trial, bail, defense counsel, an impartial jury, the right to call witnesses, the right to cross-examine witnesses, an impartial judge, proper jury instructions, fair argumentation, and an appeal, while a preborn child who legally is incapable of committing any crime is entitled to be burned alive, sliced into little pieces, sucked out by a vacuum cleaner, and thrown in a dumpster without any protection. This is judicial perversity.

    In 1898, the Supreme Court majority in Plessy v. Ferguson embraced segregation. The first Justice Harlan’s eloquent dissent took 56 years to become the majority in Brown v. Topeka Board of Education. In 1973, the Supreme Court majority in Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton embraced infanticide. Justice White’s eloquent dissent remains the cornerstone of legal argumentation for preservation of life. Let us hope and pray that it does not take 56 years for the late Justice White’s dissent to become the law of the land.

    Truth does not depend on belief. Truth is both absolute and independent of our beliefs. We can either believe truth or deny it, but truth remains unaltered by our response.

    Either a preborn child is a human being or is not a human being. Either life begins at conception or it does not. These are not difficult biological questions, despite Mr. Obama’s infamous plea that this determination is “above [his] pay grade.”

    Truth: every abortion very literally kills an actual human being. All the language about “choice” and “freedom” and “rights” masks the very real extinction of a very human life. Those babies are not “choices.” They are dead.

    I am a Christian, and will never apologize for my commitment to Christ. I am a conservative who unalterably embraces the sanctity of human life from conception to natural death. And I cannot morally justify supporting any candidate on any ticket who does not embrace the sanctity of life. The right to life is not merely a phrase; it is the conditio sine qua non of all other rights.

    Let us not rest until the sanctity of life is uneqivocally embraced in this land.

  • jeffreywturner

    You don’t have to be a Christian to look at an image of a child in the womb and see life.

    Also, you don’t have to be pro-life to see that Roe v. Wade is baseless and an abomination of judicial review.

  • pro_libertate

    Just a word of encouragement for the very eloquent post commemorating what is surely one of the darker chapters in the life of our republic. I have not read a better summary of why many of us are completely opposed to abortion and the fact that it is “legal” in this country.

    Thanks for writing it. Hopefully someday we will not have to mark this anniversary with each passing year, revising the body count ever higher. It is also yet another reason why it is so important to support and elect those that see the practice for the abhorrence that it is.

    May God have mercy on our nation.

  • AndrewHyman

    Here’s an ultrasound motion picture of a fetus 8 weeks and two days after conception. Such images were not available when Roe v. Wade was decided, and I am not aware that any U.S. Supreme Court Justice has ever seen such a motion picture. But I do know know that one U.S. Supreme Court Justice — who also happened to have signed the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution too — wrote the following:

    With consistency, beautiful and undeviating, human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law. In the contemplation of law, life begins when the infant is first able to stir in the womb. By the law, life is protected not only from immediate destruction, but from every degree of actual violence, and in some cases, from every degree of danger.

    James Wilson was right on. No line of court cases in human history has been so destructive and wrong, so foolish, and so mistaken.

  • Laura

    Your words are poignant, meaningful, and worth sharing with others outside the RedState “family.” I hope it’s OK with you…I pointed newbies here to read what you all have written.

    As an unmarried nonmother who delights in seeing the way in which you, the parents of the world, work together with God to bring life into the world, I thank you.

    And I hope and pray that millions more parents-to-be, of even the most “inconvenient” children, will provide those children with the most basic gift: life. Give them the right to be adopted by loving parents, if necesary, but give them life!

    Veronica, be strong! You might be 50 before that last child is born into your family…and you are one of many who face some rather impertinent questions about “knowing about birth control” or “other options.” I firmly believe God blesses your “choice!”

  • Laura

    It’s getting lost! If we can’t rec it, can you just auto-promote it? Thanks!

  • Achance

    could pin it to the top. Erick kinda gets front page, you know.

  • Ausonius

    reflects the left-wing’s inability in the 1970′s to defeat the argument that a human embryo is human.

    Humans do not give birth to chimpanzees: as the acorn contains a future oak tree, and not a walnut or maple tree, so does a fertilized human ovum contain a future man or woman.

    Unable to defeat that argument, the left-wing – successfully – switched the debate in the 1970′s to one of “choice” and “privacy,” and still claiming that one can debate the humanity of the unborn child, but that it was the mother’s “choice” to decide if the “whatever” would live.

    One must also wonder: why is it so important to the left-wing – who usually want to take away a freedom – that freedom for abortions be allowed?

    The answer lies at least partially in the Left’s hatred of Religion: because a good number of religions (traditional Buddhism, Orthodox Judaism, and Catholicism, certain Protestant religions) believe life begins at conception and condemn elective abortions.

    Religion to the Left is the opiate of the proletariat, an ancient, outmoded, unscientific superstition, and therefore its influence and opinions and precepts are to be ignored or at least considered suspect.

    Abortions, therefore, are to be fostered, so that the State may giveth Life, and taketh it away.

  • SusanAnne Hiller

    “On this day, we remember the nameless and the forgotten, and we lament our inability to even grasp the sorrow or the extent of their loss. Requiescat in pace.

    Not forgotten, for the conscience is too great to ignore.

  • oldphart

    In the past societies that became predominately male usually went to war and killed off their “imbalance.” China, with its huge overpopulation of men may go to other countries in an effort to acquire ‘breeding stock’ – though they wouldn’t state it in those terms. In the past they overran Korea repeatedly and in the future they may look there again and even to Japan, Taiwan, India and the Phillipine Islands. The way things are going now, there would be no U.S. to stop them.

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    Thank God for the resurection and for His gift of mercy and forgiveness as well.

  • suej

    “We renew our pledge ? to work to support candidates who will do everything in their power to someday bring about the day when Roe v. Wade joins Scott v. Sandford as an aberrant footnote to our nation?s great history.”

    Here is a candidate worth supporting…Bill Johnson is running for the U.S. Senate for Kentucky. After pushing back for over a year, I have come to recognize a genuine conservative when I see one. Please check out: http://www.kentuckybill.com to see his position on abortion. He has been endorsed by Dr. Alan Keyes, a strong anti-abortion activist.

    Thank you all!

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    And thanks to Erick and his wonderful family who make sacrifices for this incredible website.

    About 13 months ago, I had been searching for names of cats I was soon to adopt from a shelter, and was reading the Bible in Mark 5:39-41, when I came upon the beautiful name, Talitha, and immediately fell in love with the name. However, I ended up getting two male cats. If I ever get married and have the opportunity to get married, I hope to convince my wife to name any daughter we may have “Talitha.”

    And when he was come in, he saith unto them, Why make ye this ado, and weep? the damsel is not dead, but sleepeth.

    And they laughed him to scorn. But when he had put them all out, he taketh the father and the mother of the damsel, and them that were with him, and entereth in where the damsel was lying.

    And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is being, interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.

    May I add my witness as well, as indelibly preserved in the January 20, 2009 Washington Post’s inaugural tribute to Barack Obama. (It was also my first diary in RedState.)

    *Skip every-other line. H/T to the unknown RedState diarist who gave me the inspiration for this technique.

    http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com/

    The Times They Are a Changin?

    Our Dear Leader–Welcome home.
    Please know the miraculous feat
    and pride your presidency brings to
    us deserves the highest recognition.
    Thanks to eloquent leadership and
    because of the values you hold dear,
    hands of the old tremble with joy and
    newborn babes are tossed proudly in
    the air, dressed in the most exquisite
    linen. Closets, which were locked
    because of necessity, proudly open
    without shame. We call this infant I
    adore America. Equal, free, side by
    side. May God bless her ever more.

    Talitha Christiansen

  • edwlstr

    IF, indeed, America survive another 200 years, how will the future historians view this ugly era in our history? Is there no shame for liberals? They call themselves “progressives” but abortion is a brutal, backward, savage, and cruel procedure. People are not allowed to describe it due to the heinous nature of the procedure but 7 men once upon a time said that it was a right and that this “right” was an extension of a right to privacy. To that, I simply say “orchard muffins”. Do you suppose the millions of children who died in the abortion chambers will not be avenged?

  • voteindy

    Abortion is a horror. I do agree that one day history will look back at abortion and place it amongst the world’s great tragedies.

    But the word “holocaust” I feel should be reserved for the deaths of millions of Jews, Catholics, Gypsies, handicapped, people of color caused by the Nazi Regime.

    I think the word “abortion” is quite sufficient enough to evoke the horror involved. Hopefully one day it will carry the same weight that “holocaust” does, although for its’ own specific unique reasons.

  • JadedByPolitics

    NEED it DESIRE it and LIVE FOR IT are!

  • Leopard1996

    My thoughts on this go something like this,

    Repeal Roe V. Wade, decision goes back to the states.
    When states that are allowing abortion also seem to be the bankrupt liberal bastions, the majority of reasonable people begin to beat feet to more conservative states, that probably would not allow elective abortions, those states that have people beating feet probably wake up and elect people to stop the bleeding, and then those people after getting the house in order, elect to illegalize elective abortions.

    Or option B, the more liberal states can sink. Read my sig line.

  • voteindy

    But the RANDOM capitalization STILL MAKES your posts UNNECESSARILY DIFFICULT to read.

    What’s the POINT??

    :)

  • eburke

    voteindy: registered 15 days, 17 hours

    JadedByPolitics: 2 years 8 months

    Hitler Holocaust: 6 million innocent human beings

    Abortion Holocaust: 50 million innocent human beings

    JadedByPolitics: Pro-life

    voteindy: apparently pro-choice

    RedState: pro-life

    Yeah…that just about covers it.

  • eburke
  • hampa

    Jeff
    If you don’t consider killing a healthy baby in its mother’s womb simply because the baby is an inconvenience or the wrong sex then you will not have a problem when the government says that you will be covered by Medicare until you are age 75 and then Medicare will pay for your physician assisted suicide. Or maybe they will just knock Granny on the head. Not your Granny, Jeff but maybe your neighbor’s.
    I have this quote wrong I’m sure but it is close and you all know it
    “They came for the Jews and I did nothing and the they came for the Catholics and I did nothing and now they have come for me.
    When they come for me,Jeff, well, this 12 guage don’t shoot marshmallows.

  • voteindy

    Or even give that impression?

    I thought my pro-life stance was very clear.

    And why all the harping about time??
    The silly random capitalization in comments DOES MAKE IS HARDER TO READ THEM.

    Where have I ever attacked….or even disagreed with JBP statements….other than the STUPID RANDOM CAPITALIZATIONS??

    Geez….you folks are seriously insecure around here….

  • 4life

    assume that we waited to have children, and only had two, by choice. I wonder how many we would have had if having children had not been so difficult. When people say “two is a good number, isn’t it” I agree, because our two are more precious to us than anything, but it wasn’t a choice for us. So, please know that people with infertility issues suffer from insensitivity too. And that there are many who look at those blessed with large families with longing in their heart. Blessings to you and those precious little ones!

  • 4life

    sin is sin and no one sin is worse than another. I’m glad you are a believer. We are all sinners saved by grace. And what does God love more than anything? A repentant sinner. When God looks at you he sees the righteousness of Christ and not your sin.

    This is why abortion must be made illegal. All those involved in an abortion are victims of the violence.

  • simplyright4me

    Progressives and Liberals like to use the law when it can benefit them. If a pregnant mother is shot and killed they jump on the band wagon to pronounce it a double homicide.