links for 2010-01-26


  • When Chris Buckley uses his wit to mock the President he voted for, you have both a must read and warning sign for Obama.
  • Interesting post. However, while I have no problem with each state adopting a right of recall, there is no doubt in my mind that it would not apply to federally elected office holders. The same logic that applied to term limits would apply. Maybe we need a federal recall amendment.
  • The Heartland Institute will have a live blog of the State of the Union address, which interestingly enough you'll be able to embed into your own site, if you are interested. Very cool.
  • This post from Ed Fuelner at the Heritage Foundation is extremely well done. By the way, if you missed it, the U.S. dropped significantly on the Heritage Freedom index this past year.
  • Richard Cohen makes a lot of sense.
  • There is just one flaw in the reasoning — the constitution prohibits the President and Vice President from being from the same state.


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Romney/Brown 2012

Scope (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 12:16PM EDT (link)

is barf inducing. Obviously Mr. Bell is suffering from “leg tingling syndrome.” We just haven’t had the chance yet to see that Brown will probably will be to the left of McCain, his benefactor. Obamaromneycare will make Romney a non-starter.

not the same thing...

onyon43 Tuesday, January 26th at 1:16PM EDT (link)

Obamacare and Romneycare are not the same thing. And, the plan that Romney introduced as Governor in Massachusets ( a state that was going to have a plan like that anyway) is not the same as the plan currently (that has been significantly modified by Patrick and the state legislature). Sure, the Obama plan may have been modeled after the plan in Massachusetts, but they are not the same. Also, I hardly find the duo “barf inducing”, considering that last week this site was abuzz with Brown being the savior of country from the Socialists…

My socialized medicine is better than your socialized medicine

Return to Revolution (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 3:53PM EDT (link)

I can hear the campaign slogans already.

Romney/Brown is a lot like McCain/Palin, only less conservative.

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

 
 
 

the constitution prohibits the President and Vice President from being from the same state

Dave_in_Fla (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 12:30PM EDT (link)

Really? That is facinating, I never knew that little bit of trivia.

“If they were merely incompetent, then at least SOME of their actions would have been to the benefit of the country.” – Joe McCarthy

Dave in Fla- That's why Axelrod or Jarret are not the VP

Scope (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 12:34PM EDT (link)

Same-state myth debunked

MikeWas (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 12:35PM EDT (link)

As it turns out… Snopes debunked this:

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/vicepresident.asp

Kinda

jeffreywturner (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 1:10PM EDT (link)

The fact that the Constitution precludes the electors from a state COULD preclude a President and VP from being from the same state, assuming they won their home state, and the election was within the margin that their state’s electoral votes would provide.

Really though, in the case of a Romney-Brown ticket, this is irrelevant, because they probably wouldn’t win Mass. in a presidential election anyway, and if they did, it would mean that the election was such a landslide that they easily have enough electors without those from Mass.

If they are really worried about it though, there is still a fix. Just do what Dick Cheney did and change your legal residence before being added to the ticket.

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Cheney

Brian_Roastbeef (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 4:25PM EDT (link)

That’s the simple fix that keeps it around. Technically a Romney/Brown ticket could happen, with them both from the same state as they consistently try to knock down questions from the media arguing the Constitutionality and whether Mass. EVs matter to them, but why bother? It would be far more easier for Romney to just run out of Michigan or Utah, and that would have the added benefit of making it somewhat (MI) to far more likely (UT) that Romney would carry his “home state” in the election.

That’s not to say that this would ever happen, just that it won’t happen for different reasons. That is, the reason it would never happen is the same as why Romney/Snowe will never happen. By 2012, we will forget about Scott Brown the guy who saved us from Socialism, and instead think of Scott Brown the moderate who may be good on fiscal/national security issues but isn’t reliable on many other votes. Scott Brown the guy who voted for John Paul Stevens’ liberal replacement.

If Romney takes the nomination, he’ll then try to win over social conservatives, Southerners, and disgruntled former-Palinites. Romney/Jindal, Romney/Perry, Romney/Barbour, seems far more likely. Maybe Romney/Pence or Romney/Daniels if he tries to double-down on the Midwest over the South. If Romney wants Brown on his team, it will be somewhere else in the cabinet.

I think the Brown 2012 talk is just hype, too. Sending a recently unknown one-time dark horse candidate to the White House is a Democrat thing. Republicans prefer the guys that have been around for a while – sometimes to our advantage, other times to our detriment. I can’t speak for Brown, but my best guess is that after last week, he’s expecting he can win a full term back in the Senate in ’12. I don’t think that its such a given that he won’t. If ’12 is a Republican year that puts Romney (or another Republican) in the Presidency, I’m inclined to think that an incumbent Republican Senator with a knack for witty comebacks would have more than a fair chance at keeping his seat, even in Mass.

 
 
 
 

The other problem with Romney/Brown 2012

MikeWas (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 12:30PM EDT (link)

Not that they’re both from the same state, but that the state is Massachusetts.

Brown’s a great, unexpected improvement over everyone who’s held that seat for the last 50 years, but don’t fool yourself into thinking he’ll be a reliable conservative vote more than half the time.

Let’s work hard to keep Scott Brown in his Senate seat, where he can do us worlds of good, and far away from the Executive Branch, where he’ll be a constant source of disappointment.

 

Richard Cohen Fails

ofsneocon (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 12:48PM EDT (link)

Sarah Palin was horribly unqualified for the presidency, (which she was not running for) yet Obama is? The hardest he goes on Obama is that he doesn’t “know” him. Apparently he still doesn’t.

Spare me the obligatory jabs on Palin and I’d say this was an excellent article.

 

Almost

Neil Stevens (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 1:04PM EDT (link)

It just means that we couldn’t get the Massachusetts electoral votes, since the electors are barred from voting for someone of their state for President and Vice.

But we’re not getting those EVs anyway, heh.

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No offense, E

SteveM (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 1:40PM EDT (link)

…but Christopher Buckley is in my penalty box. I see no reason to read either him or Peggy Noonan for a while. Same goes for listening to Colin Powell or David Brooks…these guys all sold out the red team for the “cool” Barack Obama, and called us all morons in the process.

They should have seen what the rest of us saw in 2008 – an empty suit. A microwaved version of the worst of FDR and LBJ in one speechified package. Instead, they crapped on our candidates, told us we were a part of the wilderness, and said we needed to get with the program.

So now, one by one, they’re crawling back. No thanks. Peggy no doubt flipped over to Obama to maintain her place on the list of D.C.’s best cocktail parties. Who knows with the others. In any case, columnists derive their relevance from the number of people dropping by to read their words. Count me out.

555. (nt)

Third Street (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 2:49PM EDT (link)

“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”

 

I agree. Who cares anymore

garbear Tuesday, January 26th at 3:00PM EDT (link)

what Buckley has to say? Buckley’s support of Obama–a true believing Leftist to anyone paying any attention–doesn’t just put him in the “penalty box” but bans him from the league for life.

 

Buckley unlike Powell or Brooks did NOT insult us

JSobieski (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 3:06PM EDT (link)

doesn’t mean we should listen to him, but his endorsement of Obama was not analogous to the endorsements by Powell and Brooks, each of whom should have been overjoyed that we nominated such a moderate candidate

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Buckley's new name is

Return to Revolution (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 4:02PM EDT (link)

Blister for showing up after the work is done – the work of the tea partiers and grassroots activists who knew BEFORE the election who Obama is and who always championed freedom, not just when it is popular to do so.

Its not that he can’t come back to our side, just that his refusal to take responsibility for his actions indicates that he hasn’t.

Out of hand Constitutional fetishist

 

I'm with you

gawntrail1 (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 8:19PM EDT (link)

Hiding behind this obvious jab at Obama is an ‘I regret my vote’ type of apology sometime coming. Buckley is a crisp clean writer………. He’s also an elitist. Talking down to the rest of us during the 2008 campaign was nasally nauseating.

 
 

Appears Romney moved out of MA

BrendanW Tuesday, January 26th at 2:16PM EDT (link)

According to this article about his role in the Brown campaign:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-01-17/mitt-romneys-man/full/

Quote:

“Wrentham is best known for its shopping outlets. Romney, before recently decamping for New Hampshire, lived in Belmont, a tony Boston suburb, home to Harvard professors and families who send their kids to local private schools.”

Fled MA to Live Free or Die.

what's he doing now?

streiff (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 2:47PM EDT (link)

destroying the Republican party in another state?

“What keeps me here is the reek of beer, the ladies and the craic”

Was that a serious comment?

onyon43 Tuesday, January 26th at 2:59PM EDT (link)

We do understand that a Republican just won the People’s Seat aka “Teddy’s Seat” in Massachusetts…

 
 
 

On the subject of recall

RedBeard Tuesday, January 26th at 3:19PM EDT (link)

Good discussion subject.

Does the Constitutionally authorized power of Congress to expel a member necessarily rerstrict a state from doing the same thing under the reserved rights of the 10th Amendment? Seems as though the wording would have granted Congress the exclusive power to do so, if that was what the Founders meant.

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"The Right of Recall" is a horrible idea.

Third Street (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 3:34PM EDT (link)

I am totally against anything that would allow for the recall of federal officeholders. This “ACRU”, in calling for a “Right of Recall” for every state, is advocating something very dangerous.

The reason Senate terms are staggered, so that only a third of the chamber comes up for re-election every two years, is that the Founders wisely foresaw the rise of a figure like Obama; understood the danger of the entire government being thrown out in a single election cycle; and wrote staggered Senate terms into the Constitution as a safeguard to prevent that from happening. If all congressmen and senators were subject to recall at any point in their terms it would throw the country into chaos. (I know, as opposed to what we have now, right?) Control of the government could shift wildly back and forth as senators and congressmen of both parties were targeted for recall by the opposition on an as-needed basis. Harry Reid having trouble getting 60 votes for health-care? The Democrats just have to find a state with a Republican senator and launch a recall drive. If getting enough names on the petition is a worry, the Dems just make sure the state they’ve targeted also has a Democrat Secretary of State to help “ensure” a recall election makes it onto the ballot. Then just recruit a popular former governor or senator or what-have-you to run against the Republican senator, pair him or her with a massive propaganda blitz against the recall target, and voila. Repeat wherever and whenever necessary. The Republicans, in turn, counterattack in the same fashion. There would be no end to it, and no end to the ways in which the procedure would be abused.

The reason we “suffer” Senators like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu is that we keep re-electing them. In Louisiana, a conservative state in which Obama was soundly defeated and had zero coattails, and where Landrieu’s history was well-established, we re-elected her anyway. Louisianians have no right to demand a “do-over” to rescue ourselves from our own stupid decision. The solution is not to recall the Landrieus, the Nelsons, the Lincolns, the Bayhs; but for the citizens of these states to pay close attention to what’s now happening, take a lesson from the health-care nightmare about how their vote for Congress affects everything, and take steps to correct the situation at election time. That’s called “taking responsibility”, something of which the respective promoters of recall in these states are seeking to absolve themselves.

“Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.” –Wilkins Micawber, “David Copperfield”

I'm Totally FOR a Right of Recall for Federal Offices (Excluding Pres & Vice-Pres.)

IJB Tuesday, January 26th at 3:44PM EDT (link)

That, and Term Limits (for both Federal & Judicial offices), are pretty much my dream Amendments to the Constitution.

 
 

Actually, you are wrong Erick. It is not prevented by our Constitution

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Tuesday, January 26th at 3:50PM EDT (link)

This is a very common misconception about the 12th Amendment. What it says is that :electors” can not vote for “of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of their own state”. This was a very deliberate way of not allowing the larger states to obfuscate the electoral process.

My read is it is still possible to elect a President and Vice President from the same state- even though some still believe it is unconstitutional- which I would challenge.

Remember this came up initially with Bush-Cheney and to avoid it Cheney changed his legal state of residence back to Wyoming from Texas. However, it was done to avoid any potential distraction caused by a challenge, not because it was believed to be unconstitutional.

By the way, who wants Romney anyway.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson