Sorry, that’s the truth.

Coats is a fine man and has the name ID, stature, and experience to topple Bayh while people like Hostettler have virtually no chance of winning. Pence has already said he’s got his support if he runs.

Ban me if you wish but I’m tired of you going after good conservatives that have a real chance of winning and supporting wackjobs that have either no hope of winning or no business of winning.

Hope you have fun hanging out with Rand Paul.

I didn’t SAY you went after Coats for his conservatism or lack thereof.

I said you attacked a fellow conservative because he didn’t fit your idea of who we should be running for no good reason. Sorry, the mere fact that he left the Senate and wants back in is one of the dumbest reason to throw a seat to Democrats I’ve ever heard.

Who’d have thunk it?

He’s respectful. I wasn’t. I guess I apologize for that. But your rants on issues like this have gotten the better of me.

NOT having my kids have to pay off Obama’s mistakes for their entire lives.

That requires beating as many Democrats as possible with center-right candidates.

There is zero plausible rational for saying Coats is a recruiting failure other then bitterness. He’s clearly the only candidate with a realistic chance of winning, is a solid conservative, and isn’t even that old, he’s only 66 for God’s sake.

Hayworth, on the other hand, is a perfect example of a blowhard that can’t deliver. His run can ONLY hurt our chances of holding the seat, and you simply cannot credible argue that McCain supports Obama’s reckless spending or foreign policy. I also think some of the corruption allegations were credible and I don’t trust him.

Good job.

But thanks for playing.

If I’ve said anything idiotic, I’d like to know what it is.

BTW, Mike Pence agrees with me on the principles and Charlie Cook on the politics.

He should stop endorsing unelectable, anti-war extremist lunatics and other assorted unelectable candidates, and trashing their non-lunatic, viable counterparts then.

Yes, I’m probably being a douchbag. But sometimes you need to fight fire with fire, or, as Rush might say, demonstrating douchbaggery by being a douchbag.

Attacking a man who indisputably is a good conservative for the “sin” of wanting back in, with no other good reason whatsoever, when we just put another seat in play that we by rights have no business putting into play, serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

If you actually want an answer to your question.

Daniels obviously isn’t getting in.

Pence is out.

Other then them, Coats is BY FAR the most electable candidate in the state, ESPECIALLY on such short notice when the filing deadline is only a little over two weeks away and the candidate will need to raise money in a gigantic hurry to be competitive with Bayh’s $13 MILLION.

Anyhow, feel free to remove me. I’m sick of this crap. I 100% agree with Hoosierteacher.

Attacking the campaign of a man and the men who recruited him with no other good reason whatsoever, when we just put another seat in play that we by rights have no business putting into play, serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

Here’s a fact: Us retaking the Senate this cycle REQUIRES us to get several “retreds” to run that have not yet said they are going to run. This late in the game, you need name ID and money and an organization. That means we realistically need Thommy Thompson in Wisconsin, George Pataki in New York and Dino Rossi in Washington.

They aren’t going to jump in if the base is trashing them for being “retreds”.

And we could win one or all of those seats if things go right if they get in. We have no realistic chance at any of them without them.

You wouldn’t think so, would you?

Thanks.

And allows the Democrat to spread his $13 million to other people and win other difficult races, yes.

And frankly, I prefer graybeards with actual life experiences and perspective then young hotshots in many, if not most situations.

I make an exception for Marco Rubio. But he had a lot of experience very young.

It boggles the mind.

That, btw, is why I lost my temper on this one.

It would be one thing if there were another realistic candidate. Their isn’t.

non sequitur means?

B. I am sick of this crap. And I’m standing up to it. I did it in a hotheaded way, and I apologize for that (although not for the substance of what I said). If he wants to ban me for pointing out his madness, that says a lot more about him then it does me.

Just FYI.

At least unless you count his barely-hit-the-radar Presidential campaign in ’00, which I certainly wouldn’t.

And heck, no, that doesn’t even work, because Coats served as Ambassador to Germany very recently.

NOBODY thought Bayh was vulnerable as early as ONE MONTH ago. Should whomever tried to get someone else anyway? Yes, but it wasn’t likely to be fruitful.

Pence has already said no, clearly and unambiguously.

What are people suppose to do? Sit around for two weeks following Pence around like a puppy, asking “Will you change your mind?”

Obviously not. They are suppose to go to the next most viable option and try to get him to run.

That man, is CLEARLY, Dan Coats. And they succeeded.

One month ago, NOBODY WAS SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING CONTESTING THIS RACE. Today, the Cook Report moved it fro Solid D all the way to Lean D BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN HAS EVEN STARTED.

This is excellent news, a huge recruiting coup, and a cause for celebration among conservatives, moderates, and pretty much anybody who doesn’t believe in socialism.

Yet, for some reason, EE wants to depress the base and attack people who did a good job because Coats is “a retred.”

Do you want to make any more meaningless distinctions? Coats wasn’t a movie star. Maybe that matters too!

So, out of curiosity, was Terry Brandstad’s recruitment a “recruiting failure” too?

How about frm. Rep. Steve Chabot? frm. Rep. Steve Pierce?

Lt. Gov Jane Norton didn’t run for Governor in ’06 because she’d probably lose. Is she a “recruiting failure” for Senate?

What about frm. State Senator Joe Heck? He dropped out of the Governor’s race because he was going to lose. He’s now tied with freshman Rep. Diana Titus in the polls.

What about Snohomish County Councilman John Koster? He lost to Rep. Rick Larsen in ’00 and hasn’t run against him since. He’s running again this year. Maybe he’s a “retred” and a “recruiting failure” too.

What about Henry Hyde? He lost for House twice before he won. Served in the State legislature for a while between his losses, didn’t run for that seat sometimes because he thought he might lose.

Rob Simmons. He refused to run for re-election to his House seat in ’08 because he thought he’d lose. Obviously we can’t have him as a Senate candidate (or even a candidate for his old House seat).

What about Attorney General Bill McCollum? He could have run for Governor in ’06 but didn’t because he thought he’d lose.

What about frm. Rep. Scott McInnis? He retired and it cost the Republicans the seat. John Salazar is still sitting in it. Should he be excommunicated for not running again and now wanting to run for Governor?

Maybe we should just say that anybody who ever retires or loses ever shouldn’t be allowed to run again.

Do you have a better idea?

Provided that your idea is better then “we shoulda somehow forced Pence to run,” I’d like to know what it is.

Doesn’t seem likely.

The guy isn’t quite a Ron Paul moonbat, but he’s close.

Or, let me rephrase: I think he would have LESS of a chance then (local politician/businessman) Joe Smith (R), Anytown, would have, although if the year is good enough, you never know.

I think Stutzman actually could have, actually. He seems like a promising young candidate. But him actually catching fire is about a million to one, a WHOLE lot harder then, say, Scott Brown catching fire, because there will be a lot of other races up at the same time for people to focus on, so he’d have serious trouble getting exposure and money, and because there’s and incumbent, unlike the Massachusetts seat.

But he would have been a million to one, and Coats is close to 50/50.

And in 6 -12 years, maybe Pence or Bayh or Rokita can run for the seat when Coats retires.

In any event, even if Coats loses, he’ll force Bayh to play defense, not spend his money on other races, and keep him from meddling in the competitive house races in Indiana. That’s a WORST case scenario.

Best case, we actually have a chance at vanquishing Bayh during a landslide year instead of waiting around for 18 more years when he retires.

I’m pointing out why your criticism is moronic.

And if you had reading comprehension you’d already know why.

solid candidates aren’t going to run unless they think they have an actual shot at winning and sometimes that just takes time.

In any event, it hardly makes Coats’ run a “recruiting failure.”

where we find the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, and a truly conservative Democrat holding elective office.

the ball was passed to them, it bounced out of their hands, the bobbled it, but eventually caught it at the last second and made the touchdown.

Once Pence said no, and Daniels is clearly not interested (although I’m hoping he’s a Presidential contender), this is the next best choice.

Big thumbs up.

He was NOT “last seen” shepherding Harriet Myers. He was seen after that shepherding SAM ALITO through the process. He was doing thankless, good work for the President dealing with Judicial nominees. That’s to be attacked?

You also failed to mention he served as Ambassador to Germany for 4 years.

He hasn’t been out of the game since ’98, he’s been out since late ’05. That’s one year difference then Hostettler.

His facts were incorrect. I pointed it out.

Either show where my facts are wrong or shut up.

If you tell me that the Island of Yap’s militia could defeat the US Military, you’re just a fool.

If you disagree with me that, say, Roy Blunt will have the hardest time holding an R held seat, and you instead think it’ll be whomever gets the nomination in the New Hampshire seat, that’s different. You might be right.

And you have yet to show me not reading “plain English” once. You have failed to see the logical implications of some of your own positions and my responses to such, however.

CAPITALIZE a word HERE OR THERE and swear like a f$%king loser for no g$dd$#m reason?

While I’m at it, maybe I could ask you to contemplate suicide.

Would that make you happy?

Would I be less of an a$$ then?

……

That doesn’t mean I was wrong.

Rand Paul and John Hostettler are wackjobs.

I don’t think you’ll find that an uncommon opinion around here, nor one that lacks a logical basis. And apparently he supports one for sure and suggested he might chose the other.

Anyhow, my opinion of his ego should have been kept to myself. But it isn’t based on this one instance.

I have an ego too, sometimes. But I usually don’t randomly criticize people for doing the best job they reasonably could be doing while simultaneously hurting my own cause.. I thought someone should stand up for them.

FYI.

I’ll take my criticism seriously if the person actually has the guts to, you know, make a point as opposed to saying, “Well obviously you are wrong because I say so.”

And frankly, why I said he had a big ego, which I admit, I should have kept to myself.

This post was so bad, and so ill thought out, I couldn’t help it.

But I’m probably worsening the problem. So laters!

Stutzman, I think you could come up with “young, outsider” sort of narrative that could, in theory, catch fire, although that’s virtually impossible and not the sort of way you should go about winning elections except when you absolutely need to.

But Hostettler? A guy who lost a House seat more Republican then the state as a whole, by 20pts, and never won it with more then 55% of the vote? A guy who’s thrown in with the Ron Paul crowd on foreign policy and free trade?

I honestly thing Joe Smith, Mayor of Anytown (population 10,000), IN (R) would have a better shot of winning then Hostettler.