Campbell Brown is Right and Hayworth is An Idiot if He Sticks to This

ColoradoRed

…he changes his tune, it’s over for him. Supporting him now would be like supporting Charlie Crist because he SAYS he’s a conservative. Hayworth just hung himself.

neum432

Hayworth lost his House seat in ’06 for a reason. Maybe we are figuring out why?

varia

yeah, maybe Obama’s really a closet conservative named Joe Schmoe who just stole the identity of a leftist chicago thug named Barack Hussein Obama to run for president just for the heck of it…I should try that sometime, thanks for blazing the trail Joe!

I was already having doubts about Hayworth, and this confirms it.

By the way, maybe the Redstate widget with Marco Rubio, Chuck DeVore, Pat Toomey and Michael Williams should now include Marlin Stutzman. I doubt KBH will resign her seat so maybe remove Michael for Marlin. Just a thought.

kevinaw2

THanks for the intellectual and political integrity! I’ve always thought he was a blowhard anyway. He clearly is trying to appeal to voters on the fringe without alienating main stream conservatives. What a dunce! Like many, I find much to disagree with McCain, but at least he has convictions I can honestly disagree.

E Pluribus Unum

In the 2008 election, we had a choice between a Marxist and the biggest party backstabber in history.

It was no fun, then or now, to speak a civil word about McCain. But the choice is clear. Again. Dammit.

JX12

Never thought I’d vote for John McCain in a primary (and I probably still won’t); but the fact that I’m forced to even consider it now is really disappointing. If JD keeps talking like this, then I’m going to have to think long and hard about whether or not I’m going to be a party to any attempt to send someone to the Senate who is effectively rendering himself the Al Franken of the GOP.

I figured JD was probably a long shot given Arizona’s open primary system, McCain’s huge war chest, and a general feeling of irritation a lot of people around here seem to have for JD anyway. Nevertheless, I was still planning to vote for him in order to do my part to unseat McCain.

Talk about letting the air out of the balloon….

I also have to think this probably takes some of the pressure off Sarah Palin for having endorsed McCain.

Adjoran

Hayworth is an idiot whether he “sticks to this” or not. The fact that most of his positions are conservative doesn’t mean he isn’t an idiot.

The big-mouthed goof couldn’t even hold his own congressional district. Nominating him would be a great way to not only turn a safe seat into a toss-up, but even to blow the chance to take the Senate, and with a self-inflicted wound.

I take a back seat to NO MAN in my disdain for John McCain’s apostasies and behavior towards conservatives. He is hardly a Chaffee, Collins, or Specter, though.

I would suggest once again to my friends in Arizona that they hold their noses and reelect McCain.

JX12

There are plenty of Republicans (and – for that matter – Independents) around here who will gladly vote for McCain without having to hold their noses at all.

Hayworth’s odds of winning the primary were relatively slim even before he uttered his birther comments. I suspect McCain will probably hold on to that Senate seat until he dies or chooses to retire, whichever happens first. What he will almost certainly not do is lose it in an election, unless Arizona closes it’s primary system to registered GOP only and a considerably more viable conservative candidate (like, maybe, John Shadegg) challenges him. Even then, it would probably be pretty stiff fight to unseat him.

http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com Conservative Phantom

wrong that makes us deserve McCain? Where is the Democrat party equivalent? I guess that they used to have Zell Miller but he never pretended to buy into the lib Democrat BS he just had a D next to his name. McCain is conservative for about a year or two before he comes up for re-election and the other four or five years he’s a (near) complete backstabber.

JD had better do a pretty damn quick save on this blunder but I don’t think he’s up to it. If he was all that clever the words never would have left his mouth in the first place. Idiot.

rfpzzzzz

JD sounded like a crack pot with Campbell Brown. Hopefully he is just a little rusty but it was a bad showing if you listen to him. I liked him in the old days but I liked Joe Scarborough back then too.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

They beat him in a primary but he STILL came back and won.

http://phxg.wordpress.com/ phxg

Arizona is odd and we tend to elect people who shouldn’t be serving hamburgers; Evan Mecham, Fife Symington and others. What tends to happen, from my perspective is that AZ has a large population of single issue voters and the birther topic will draw quite a few, especially since McCain has denounced it completely. An example is my own father, he is a birther and absolutely despises J.D., yet today, he has decided to vote JD on this single point. Certainly there are other reasons but this was just the last push over the cliff.

I believe JD will gain quite a few more votes for his position than he will lose, if for nothing more then what I so kindly refer to the “Blue Hair Block” out in Sun City. They love McCain for his military service, but many see his stance on global warming to be stupid. McCain does interviews on KFYI with Barry Young and just the other day was 100% in support of the global warming is man made line (looking for audio now, I listened live).

Also, don’t discount the Sheriff Arpaio endorsement. The Sun City crowd loves Arpaio and that will swing many a voter. So no, I don;t think the birther issue will harm JD to much extent*.

* Although it should.

http://www.dirkworld.com dirkbelig

…the candidate of Stupid Party will either be the…

1. Vichy, glad-handing, aisle-crossing, RINO who counts amongst things needing doing amnesty for invaders and crippling our economy in the name of preventing fictitious enviro-hoaxing, or…

B. Jack Abramoff-stained, birther clown who couldn’t hold his own House gig.

All those people and that’s the best the Grand Canyon State can offer up? No Sarah Palin or Scott Brown types?

At least with McLame, we know how unreliable and desperate to cuddle with the Dems he is; craven in his need for love from those who despise him. Knowing your backstabbing pal is gonna backstab you means you can keep an eye out for the knives. JD is looking to be the bomb-throwing poster boy for the liberals stereotype of what ALL conservatives are like.

Oy vey.

reaganiterepublicanresistance

- and he’s hurting the entire right now… playing the part of the fringe character the Left works so hard to paint Obama’s opponents as being… thanks stoopid

Now libs can lecture us on how TEA party candidates are kooks and we need to stick with the RINO we know.. is Hayworth a DNC double agent, or what?

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com

bk

RedBeard

Good grief.

Y’know, this isn’t difficult, even for the most oblivious couch potato to grasp. Just watch Survivor, and note that the first person voted out is usually the one with the mouth that runneth over.

saltlick

Ack! I was on the verge of sending this goof a donation, mainly because of my loathing for McCain.

Red State once again serves as a targeting mechanism for the precise application of monetary force on the political future of our country. Thanks!

Raven

McCain counts among things needing doing things that will advance McCain’s career. He doesn’t care about any other issues and merely uses them when he thinks they might be to his advantage.

Raven

He has made his principles clear and stands by them regardless of where his party goes.

McCain, not so much.

http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

…but the right call.
VB

RedBeard

But consider the greater evil, allowing a Dem to have that seat.

John “Loose Cannon” McCain is infinitely better. Or infinitely less worse, if that tortured English can be allowed.

daendda

Granted he should have known better than to mention the words “Birth Certificate”, but the guy says he is not a birther. McCain says he is a conservative and no one here believes that either. I don’t know much about AZ politics but to me this is Hayworth’s “properly inflate your tires” moment. Something like “prove you are who you say you are” should go without saying in elections. Is this a formal position of his or just some random question of his opinion by Campbell Brown. I’m not a birther, but if I lived in AZ, I would never again hold my nose for McCain after 2008.

mbecker908

I told ya so. And folks, this is just the beginning. It’s not going to get any better. JD Hayworth’s biggest problem is JD Hayworth.

First of all, I disagree with my neighbor phxg, this will not buy JD a single vote. Everybody in Arizona who would be swayed by this crap has already donated their dollar to JD’s campaign.

The most dangerous place around is standing between JD and a news camera. The newsies love the guy because not only is he always available, he always says something really stupid. This – not this issue, but this attitude – is why Harry Mitchell beat JD.

JD’s problem with his mouth is going to just get bigger. The national media just plays with him (even Fox) because he’s predictable and it’s easy. Kinda like pushing around the little kid in the school yard in fourth grade. His real problem is the Arizona media. They hate him. And they will go after him with a vengeance. And when they get up to speed JD will start whining about how unnnfairrrrrrrrrr they are to him and the death spiral will go into high gear.

As I’ve noted repeatedly, Arizona is not a “red” state. It’s purple at best. There are some solidly conservative pockets, notably in our “Sun City” retirement communities and around the military bases. The only endorsement of note that JD’s gotten is from Joe Arpaio who is viewed as something of a god in Sun City. In most of the rest of metro Phoenix he’s either tolerated or hated. Outside of Maricopa County, Arpaio is Hitler incarnate. JD’s problem is that in Sun City, John McCain is viewed as a bonafide American Hero and one of them. Pretty much the same around the military bases. JD whining about McCain’s honor and integrity will lose him just about every vote in those communities whether the charges are true or not.

Keep in mind that this race hasn’t even begun to heat up yet, nobody is paying a whole lot of attention and there’s more discussion about the weather than “the race”. The Arizona Republic hasn’t even started looking for their long knives, let alone started to sharpen them. With that caveat, here are links to a selection of rather benign entries at the Republic. Check out the comments. Even I’m surprised at the tilt and while I’m trying to say this is any kind of a “poll”, the general tone of the comments pretty well represents how people in Phoenix “feel” about JD.

1. On the subject of this diary…
2. Starting to whine about McCain’s campaign…
3. Grover Norquist takes a whack at JD…
4. Dick Armey takes a whack at JD…

Again, it’s not the content of the articles, it’s the tone of the comments, and FWIW, the comments to AZR stories and blog entries are usually about 50/50 to 60/40 with the extremes on both sides making 90% of the comments. Any time the comments are tracking much beyond 60/40 in either direction something is going on.

For anybody who was thinking about sending JD money, don’t. We have three House races where we can send liberal Dems packing and we’ve got good candidates in two of them, the third still needs to be sorted out.

David Schweikert is running for JD’s old seat against Harry Mitchell. Mitchell beat him last time, mostly do to some internecine warfare in the Republican Party. All the “red-on-red” fire this time will be in Mitchell’s direction and David is a solid guy.

Jesse Kelly in CD08, running against Giffords.

We here in Arizona will be updating you on these races, they are winnable and will make a big difference. All the top R House candidates are in the John Shadegg mold and Erick if you’ve got any pull out here, see if you can get Shadegg into the Senate race. He’d have a really good shot at beating McCain and I’d invest in him.

mbecker908

JD doesn’t have a “platform” beyond “I’m NOT John McCain, nhaaa nhaaa nhaaa”. This is no where the depths to which JD will sink – along with his polling numbers.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

and heard JD make a fool of himself along with the other 4-5 viewers that pay to watch CNN.

The fact is that the birth certificate matter does raise an issue of credibility about Obama, which was settled when the Electoral College voted him in.

But given that only 6% beleive Obama on the stimulus, JD would do better to focus on ObamaDem theft of our money rather than identity theft.

This makes it hard to support JD, but I have no doubt that he would vote better on issues than McCain.

daendda

Vote for the Idiot or the Liberal. I’m glad I don’t have to make that decision.

reggie1

Why not try that first, and then comment.

I watched it. Campbell was shameless in steering the questions that way. JD tried to avoid it like the plague. No way can you watch the exchange and believe he is a birther.

The article isn’t surprising, probably hand-written by McCain’s own crew.

If anyone can think of a better way to avoid insulting the anti-McCain right without refusing to be interviewed by media who will drill down on that topic… well, suggest it.

Reacting to a headline and myopic account of an otherwise well-handled appearance by JD… well, get over yourself.

And by the way, does anyone here really think the birther issue will go any further than has trying Bush/Cheney for “war crimes”?

Grow the F up.

gekster

http://www.neoavatara.com/blog neoavatara

But I cannot support anyone that lives in a fantasy world. Look, I don’t care anyome about Obama’s birth certificate. He is the president, for better or (mostly) worse.

Hayworth needs to get a brain.

walter

There’s no such thing as a silly question. Just silly replies, a little bit of ridicule, and laughter to avoid the question.

So . . . . Answer the question! Please?

And if they don’t – tell the world THEY NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTION!

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

I don’t disagree with your assessment of JD and think it is politically idiotic to bring up the BCert issue (see my comment above to VB), but, I don’t think JD’s idiocy is in the same league with McCain’s even if JD spints to cameras quicker than McCain. McCain doesn’t have to race to the cameras since his Maverickness in attacking fellow Republicans and conservatives has garnered him a permanent co-starring role on the Sunday Shows with free access to cameras.

What is more harmful to you, me and America, JD’s demand for a BC or McCain’s:

Ongoing drive to attack the poor and middle class with high cap and trade energy prices based on a hoax;

Refusal to raise issues of credibility about Obama not related to his BC, as in Ayers, Rev Wright, etc

Desire to grant amnesty to 1/10 of Mexico living in the US

Refusal to attack his “honorable” senate pals when they launched the Bushlied Era and then takes credit for the success of the surge that would not have been possibble but for Bush

etc ad infinitum

The list is long and you helped write it ‘Becker.

Life is about choices and God knows I wish JD were smarter than this, but I guess I would support a yellow dawg after enduring McCain for a decade.

Just venting brother…

reggie1

I just criticized this board for basing their judgements on an article about the interview, instead of bothering to read the interview.

i.e. The article is a third-party’s remarks.

And the first reply I get is copy&pasted quotes.

Well, par for the course I suppose.

Watch.The. Interview. JD is not a birther.

saltlick

Watch –

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i38PkajypGM

streiff

I think most Dems view Lieberman the same way we view McCain and they think of McCain as going against his party based on principle.

gekster

First you call the commenters “humps”,
tell them they didn’t read the article or watch the vid,
(like you can tell,) then tell them to “grow the F up.

Seems like something went wrong for you this morning.
Just saying.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

The greater evil is having a RINO screw up the next tme the GOP is a Senate majority. McCain has done enough damage to the GOP brand and the GOP majority. His fellow RINOs destroyed the Senate majority in 06 and his feeble 08 campaign delivered the worst President in our lifetime. He needs to be retired.

Defeating John McCain, even with a flawed replacement, would send a HUGE shot across the bow of the establishment Republicans and would vastly re-invigorate conservatives. It would mean:
- No to McCain-Feingold
- No to cap-n-tax
- No to immigration amnesty
- No to bipartisan games and giveaways and bills co-written with Kennedy
- No to TARP

Any ONE of these is enough to defeat McCain… but all of them and more is what we face.

“John ?Loose Cannon? McCain is infinitely better. ” No, not really. We will have 48 GOP Senators next year. If we have 8 moderates that waffle and let Dems get 1/2 of a very bad agenda in the name of ‘bipartisanship’ we will have set ourselves up for continued minority status.

It’s time to retire McCain.

reggie1

Yes, sir. I can tell that no one here actually watched the interview.

That is, no one here who is posting, parroting the article’s slant.

I don’t live in Arizona. So perhaps I’m a little excessively responsive to seeing so many seemingly bright people (by virtue of their gathering place, here) being so superfically dismissive. And wrongly so, I might add.

Don’t think for a second that the WH isn’t keen to the anti-birther sentiment on the right, and preparing to play that fiddle til the cows come home. Divide and conquer.

Q: What do you call someone who wants to see Obama’s birth certificate?
A: “Voter.”

Q: What do you call a Republican candidate who doesn’t hesitate to criticize birthers, instead of trying to steer clear of the topic altogether?
A: Hint: not “”Congressman.”

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

” what have we done wrong that makes us deserve McCain?”

WE RE-ELECT HIM.

The mistake we make as conservatives is blind loyalty to elected Republicans. WE are the ones who hired them – they owe US loyalty, to our principles and views, not the other way round.

McCain has snubbed his nose at conservatives long enough.

I am sorry, but there is only solution to someone who is embedded like that is to take him out and vote against him in the primary. Send a message.

Apparently JD is a blowhard. Well, so is McCain. I’ll take the conservative blowhard and the risks attendant over the RINO blowhard and the history of backstab wounds in our backs.

The more we oppose McCain with a more conservative opponent, the more effort he will make convincing people he is actually a conservative. IT’S A WIN/WIN, even if JD doesnt beat him. the very act of JD running is a service to the conservative cause to keep RINOs on notice that we will NOT engage in blind loyalty towards RINOs.

Vote against RINO pols in the primaries and you create a more conservative Congress. Isn’t that what we all want?

Credo

is that if anyone could prove Obama was not a naturalized citizen, it would have been Hillary Clinton.

Birtherism is a red herring that tars those who do have legitimate questions about Obama’s past. There’s plenty “not there” that should preclude wading into the Birth Certificate cesspool. Let’s talk Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers etc – the birther issue throws a cloud over all these issues.

gekster

every one has a few off mornings

Credo

Make that “natural born” nor naturalized.

reggie1

…for posting this link to the interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i38PkajypGM

Watch. Run from McCain.

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

In other words, the above characterizations of JD as a birther is due to media spin/bias …

The ELEPHANT in the room here is that McCain, like a lot of RINOs *CANNOT RUN A POSITIVE CAMPAIGN*! He offers NOTHING to Arizona conservatives except more heartache.

The only way McCain will win is by spending his millions trashing JD and getting the media to back him up with interviews designed to get JD’s big mouth into trouble. So conservatives will fall for trashy campaign and reluctantly vote for the lead RINO because the other guy is deemed too … whatever.

Sad and pathetic way to win if you ask me.

A comment on AZ central says it all:

“I can no longer reward McCain. You shouldn’t either. What has he done to deserve it? NOTHING! I don’t care if Mickey Mouse was running against him. I will vote for whoever has the best chance to send Mr. Keating Five to Cornville. Right now, that looks like JD.”

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

That should be good enough for any AZ conservative to support the other guy.

ABM! (Anyone But McCain!)

As I said earlier, defeating RINOs in primaries does wonders for making the Congress more conservative. The other guy could be a hood ornament and the Congress would end up more conservative…. RINO-ism has been that bad and that deadly to conservative principles, and our cause and agenda.

RedBeard

That doesn’t compute. Why would you prefer someone who is wrong all the time over someone who is wrong half the time?

deevee

How many times do I allow McCain to stab me in the back?

Amnesty
TARP
Not fighting to win the Presidential election.
Not standing up for Sarah.
the list goes on.

He has to go – I do not trust him with my freedom.

RedBeard

I always enjoy being called a “hump” because my opinion differs. Being told to “Grow the F up” is just a bonus.

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

Huh? The Dems dont even have a credible candidate in AZ senate race. A year when the GOP leads the generic ballot and is poised to pick up the Senate seat in *Delaware*?!?!
The next senator from AZ will be a Republican. It’s either a conservative blowhard who will vote right or a back-stabbing RINO who supports amnesty, campaign finance rules, many Kennedy ‘birpartisan’ cr*p bills, and loves to backstab and attack conservatives. oh, and his family is now running around advocating for gay marriage.

As I have said, just the act of *running* for Senator by JD is a great public service, forcing McCain to the right and keeping his RINO instincts in check.

But 6 years is a Looong time, and McCain is getting older and more cranky and unpredictable.. It’s a risky scheme to leave this seat in the hands of a RINO who is past retirement age.

konstantine

McCain is our nation’s greatest threat to freedom.

Why, he’s the republicans greatest monster.

Yes sir nt nt nt nt

gekster

given a few more cups of coffee, he would have opined his words much better.

conservativemusician

The birfer issue is Hayworth’s “macacca” moment and the media is going to pound him into submission on this. Hayworth was evasive in this interview and he never really answered Brown’s questions, instead deflecting onto economic issues. Now if JD had stuck to economic issues in the first place without hinting at the birfer issue via the silly indentity theft argument, he’d probably find himself on much steadier ground. Like mbecker908, I never really thought Hayworth has a chance to unseat McCain, and this interview certainly does not help his cause.

Common_Cents

The interview clearly showed brown trying to bait Hayworth. Whatever you think about him he got railroaded in that interview and Erick made a mistake in falling for some biased 3rd party take. Erick should probably abstain from these types of diaries since he appears on CNN. This diary makes Erick look like a suckup to CNN. I know he isn’t but ya gotta be careful.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

will “pound” JD on this and other made up by them issues. Much like they pounded McCain and Palin in 2008; Bush in 2004 and Reagan every year of his public life.

Republicans must pound back, rather than settling for the Drive-Bys to define the field and force us to settle for McCains.

RedBeard

I know that after my 6th or 7th mug, I can get testy.

conservativemusician

But JD has to be smarter and get off the birfer thing pronto. That’s all I’m saying. Personally, I’d like to see JD win the primary, but it is an uphill climb, especially since he doesn’t have much money.

gekster

done that.

streiff

Mike, if you truly believe what you just posted then you’ve also got to come to the defense of Debra Medina and her statement about not having enough evidence to make a judgment on whether or not the US Government knocked down the WTC.

JD’s response is just soft-birferism. He’s given multiple opportunities to hit the argument head on and the best he can do is “I have no doubt about who he is and who he says he is.” Really. What does that mean?

As others have said, he lost his House seat for a reason. Erick calls this one right.

reggie1

I have not had my coffee today. Not making that up, just thought you deserved the validation. Good call.

togaman

to steer him into a corner by telling her clearly that the whole issue is silly and non productive, and that we as a country have real problems to deal with that are much more important that the birth certificate nonsense. THATS how you get taken seriously.

conservativemusician

Of Hayworth’s current position, and a pretty transparent attempt to question Obama’s citizenship without really saying it outright. Like I told gamecock above, JD just needs to drop the subject and move on to more fertile ground, like attacking McCain’s very liberal voting record, for starters.

Mary Beth

…and while I wish JD would focus on other things… it’s not nearly as toxic to me as all the issues you listed.

One is an annoyance…the others threaten my liberty and my pocketbook.

streiff

of David Duke?

Mary Beth

I’m not sure I could ever categorize racism as just an annoyance.

streiff

his little eccentricity was just an annoyance.

Sorry, you can’t pick and choose your pathologies. At best Hayworth is pandering to loonies. At worst, he is a looney. I don’t see how his positions overcome this defect.

bilmar

support for McCain is support for the same old thing. I admire McCain but he is part of the problem we have in Washington. He has shown that he is a Rhino, why would anyone want to support the problem. It is time to vote them all out. It is the establishment that is the problem. True conservatives are the answer to the problems we have.

Mary Beth

I don’t think that birtherism equates with racism on any level so I don’t think that your comparison is apt.

pilgrim

I would like to ask this question to Erick. What if Campbell had asked JD this…have you stopped beating your wife? It is exactly the same kind of leading question to bait someone and put that person in a very bad light as how she brought up the question about obama’s birth. Maybe the only thing someone can do is follow the example George HW Bush provided of simply walking out of his interview with Dan Rather. Of course people who hate JD are going to pounce on him for doing that as well.

streiff

and the way you would answer the question you pose is “I have never beaten my wife and I’m shocked that you could say such a thing.”

If he’d said that about the birth certificate we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Let’s not sugar coat it, he was pwned by a former cheerleader.

lenguado

I would much rather have a “bomb throwing blowhard” who is and votes reliably conservative, than returning a known backstabbing CINO (RINO is not appropriate here) traitor who grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory during his FAILED presidential run….

McShame must go.

Mary Beth

I’m less concerned about this than I am about McCain’s penchant for “reaching across the aisle.”

I would prefer if we had a candidate going against McCain who didn’t bring this issue up…but for me at least, it’s not enough to support the Maverick getting yet another 6 years in the Senate to screw us over on policy issues.

pilgrim

Campbell simply replies… “Why are are you shocked? There are many indications and signs that you beat your wife. You avoid answering either yes I have stopped beating her or no I have not stopped beating her. Why is that?

If you read my previous post, I am not agreeing with the answer that JD gave. I suggest he should have said nothing like George HW did to Dan Rather.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

He lost a primary, he created his own Bull Moose party (but literally had his name in it, unlike Roosevelt’s party which was formally the Progressive Party), and beat the Democrat.

If McCain went Bull Moose after being beaten by a conservative, we’d be all over him for it.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

just simply disagree with you guys.

Cheers.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

http://www.werushdaily.com Rightshift

I hear DeceptiCons rattling on with attacks about the “Birther” issue and never even addressing the meat of the “Birther” suspicions?

“Birther” or no… Has it ever occurred to anyone WHY Obama fights tooth & nail in court to prevent any and all personal records from being released to the tune of over $1M in legal fees to date?

Has it occurred to anyone that with his disparaging view of the Constitution, that the best way to undermine said cornerstone document of “negative liberties” would be by placing someone who is not qualified by the document in that position where any and all laws put into effect would probably never be rescinded? Thus more than likely doing the job of rendering moot the Constitution since those laws would be illegitimate? Just what kind of crisis might that bring forth?

As conspiratorial as that sounds, its no secret that the Democrats see the document as an impediment to any of their agenda ideas… Chucky Schumer has been heard saying “If it wasn’t for the Constitution we could get a lot of things done”… really now? I’d say that if you were going to bring down the Constitution, electing someone to the presidency who isn’t supposed to be there would certainly do more damage to it and the country than can possibly be wrought by any other means.

So again… before you dismiss the notion… the idea that its a ‘non-starter’ certainly is a brilliant vector as an attack on the foundation of this nation since no one dare question.

If it is a “non-starter” as a question , then certainly the WRONG people are in charge since they don’t have the stones to force the tough questions, nor have balls to get the tough answers.

Obama may be legit no argument there, but the underlying question is why the secrecy regarding ALL his records?

… and please before anyone throws it out there… “what about the birth announcements in the papers in HI at the time?” Anyone can place a birth announcement in a newspaper. My baby cousin was born in Canada and her father placed an announcement in a local NJ paper where the rest of the family lives, no mention of a Canadian birth. With respect to Obama, THAT is a non-starter as proof.

streiff

she played slowpitch with him and gave him the opportunity, much as Beck gave Medina last week, to answer a direct question.

Brown played the interview straight, it wasn’t hostile by any stretch of the imagination.

Your whole theory is really shot to hell by the fact that he didn’t even attempt to bat the question down. If anything he was baiting her by his non-answers.

streiff

I’m astonished by the comments I’m reading on this thread.

It is just hard to believe that the dislike of McCain goes so deep that we’d rather lose his seat than see him reelected.

http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

http://briansimpson.wordpress.com Brian Simpson

for the Transformers reference.

Nick Haynes

Yeah…unless you’re a in absolutely vague and non-conclusive terms, nobody’s going to “bait” you into an answer that in no way represents your true thoughts. Nobody of an average or higher intelligence is going to be baited into a hard answer that is 180-degrees out-of-phase with their beliefs.

For example, you’re not going to get me to somehow say or insinuate that I support single-payer health care or abortion on demand. Conversely, you’re not going to get Barney Frank to say that he supports the end of Medicare or Social Security (unless it is in conjunction with the aforementioned single-payer system).

So, the way I see it, either J.D. is a birther, or J.D. is stupid enough to have been baited into saying he’s a birther when he’s not. Either way, it pretty well sums up what I’ve thought all along: J.D. does not belong in the Senate.

Achance

and questions that assume facts not in evidence. I cannot fathom why seemingly otherwise intelligent Republican politicians think they have to answer biased questions just because some media weenie asked it. The GWB Administration used to just drive me nuts with their being suckered, especially by that weenie Gregory. The only one of GWB’s press people who would routinely stop and reframe the question, and stick in a nice jab from time to time, was the late Tony Snow.

The Party or the Leadership could easily put on a half-hour of training for candidates and officeholders that would dramatically improve their skills in dealing with reporters trying to play lawyer with the way they ask questions – ‘course lawyers know they can’t get away with it for long, reporters seem to be immune since nobody’s yelling “objection.”

http://phxg.wordpress.com/ phxg

He will decimate JD in the primary and there are no credible democrat challengers.

McCain, while facing a fight, is pretty well safe in AZ.

mbecker908

What part of “Arizona isn’t even remotely a red state” don’t you get. And Hayworth has lots of history with Arizona voters and pretty much none of it is good.

mbecker908

My dead white cat could beat the UnknownDemocrat who will get sacrificed for this election.

Nick Haynes

We need you on staff in Washington. It would suck for you, but it would make our party more effective at governance and messaging by a factor of 1000.

Nick Haynes

In 2003, the K.C. Chiefs drafted Larry Johnson. He was pretty good when he became the Chiefs #1 running back in 2005/2006. But that was about the same time that the Chiefs started sliding downwards. A lot of that can be put on the fact that, while Johnson was playing well, his character issues were wearing off on the team, and he was a cancer.

That’s the problem with Hayworth. He might vote the right way 90 to 95 percent of the time, but he also has a Schumer-esque propensity to find the camera, and a tendency to say something stupid that makes the Macaca moment look like Reagan at the Brandenburg Gate. That, in turn, gives the over-eager to embarrass media even easier targets, and targets which they don’t have to do overly imaginative mental gymnastics with in order to make rational people agree with their analysis.

We can contain McCain. We can’t contain Hayworth. End of story.

joebgardener

Huh??

Are you a birfer GC??

http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

The problem is that the GOP is afraid of the Drive-By media and must get over it.

streetwise

we have yet to be filled in on the exact circumstances of its demise.

As for the Unknown Democrat, given that a former one is sitting in the White House, let us pray that hope triumphs over experience.

Achance

I used to have to use all sorts of people as witnesses in arbitrations and labor board hearings; custodians, maintenance guys, clerks, Correctional Officers, all sorts of production level employees most of whom had never seen the inside of a hearing room or a court except on TV. These are the kinds of people who are prone to forget even their own name as soon as they are sworn in, so you have to get pretty good with your witness prep. I always spent fifteen or twenty minutes just talking about question form and how to deal with the most common “lawyer tricks.” I think they must teach it at the Meany School or at some of the seminars that wannabe labor lawyers go to, but most of the union advocates, lawyers and lay people were about three trick ponies; leading if they could get away with it, questions that assumed facts not in evidence, and mischaracterizing prior testimony and asking the witness to agree to it. From what I’ve seen most of the MSM reporters went to the same schools. If I could pretty much make my ordinary witnesses immune to it with fifteen minutes of prep, you think that smart people holding public office should be able to handle it.

daendda

those of us that consider liberalism a pathology can say the same thing about McCain.

Flagstaff

a short vacation.

The answers they both gave were awful answers, IF they are not concerned about the BC issue. In that case, the answer should be, “He’s a lawful citizen, eligible to be President, plain and simple.” If pressed, they should affirm they don’t believe there’s anything being hidden.

By tap-dancing around they betray their own ambivalence at best, and hidden belief in the birfer stuff at worst. They both need to recognize that IT DOESN’T MATTER TO MANY OF US WHAT THEY SAY, OR WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THIS SUBJECT, AS LONG AS THEY DON’T SOUND LIKE HALF-WITS. And by dancing instead of answering, they sound like half-wits, and devious, deceptive, and dissembling ones at that.

If they need the birfers to get through the primaries, they shouldn’t get through it. As much as I like JD and dislike Johnny, in general. Period.

Richard Mullins

So both seem to have attitude problems. I don’t a person would think a question by Glenn Beck would a baiting one and why that person would have a hasty news conference not all that much later. JD seems to have a Deniable plausibility on things but it seems that he’s never going to get out of this one. As for Ms. Medina, we’ll know the damage after March 2(early voting started Tuesday). We don’t elect nuts and JD seems to be on the nut side.

Flagstaff

is being kept alive by the leftists in the media and in the White House. It’s pretty clearly a red herring being dragged across our trail, again and again, in an attempt to distract us into following it into a blind alley, where we can be mugged by the Campbell Browns of the world. Let’s not help them.

The only way Barack Obama could possibly NOT be a natural born citizen is if he were switched at birth by beings from another dimension. Hmmm. So maybe, in Area 51, where they have the alien corpses and the captured Bigfoots….

Flagstaff

don’t really stand a chance as the result of Hayworth entering it.

grey68

Palin supports those who question Obama’s Birth Certificate. They have the right to ask questions of those they vote for or vote against.

mbecker908

He was Mrs908′s cat. I figured out the chain-of-command a long time ago.

As for the UnkownDem, there is only one Dem still in AZ with any statewide name recognition and that would be Terry Goddard. McCain’s already beaten him once, he’s currently the AG and he’s running for governor with a pretty good chance of winning.

mbecker908

that JD was a TV CongressCritter for six terms. He’s probably got more face time on TV than McCain. Plus he was a sports reporter on TV before he was a Critter. And he had a radio talk show since he got thrown out on the street by the voters in CD5. He’s no newbie – an amateur maybe, but not a virgin when it comes to dealing with reporters.

Add to that that I would say he flat out lied to Erick – see Erick’s diary about the call to JD. He’s made dozens of statements referring to Obama’s BC on KFYI and you can bet somebody will dig them up. JD is simply a very loose cannon with no fuse.

joebgardener

n/t

mnexpatriate

mbecker908 – I respectfully disagree with you.

Schweikert lost because he was a weak candidate, and all the red-on-red fire is coming from his campaign this time around.

I follow this race really closely, and the only negative press releases I’ve seen come from David.

He may be conservative, but he’s unelectable.

streetwise

mbecker908

http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

We have conservative alternatives vs Medina in TX Gov race. She is just a spoiler at this point wrt to picking the GOP nominee.

In AZ, its either a conservative blowhard or a RINO blowhard.

Even if JD was a birther (he is not), that tooth-fairy myth is less dangerous to our wallets than the insane climate change- is-a-crisis myth … which McCain subscribes to.

peg_c

I saw the updated post to this re: Hayworth clearing up this birther issue. That said, were I living in Arizona and Hayworth WAS in fact a birther, I would have to do a DeMint and not support either one. I would not vote. I won’t ever support McCain again no matter who the opposition is.

I have and will again donate to Hayworth…

RS

EDITOR OF REDSTATE

Campbell Brown is Right and Hayworth is An Idiot if He Sticks to This

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