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Happy Warriors Still

By: Erick Erickson (Diary)  |  March 21st, 2010 at 10:56 PM  | 

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It is easy in the face of what happened tonight to sound or become defeatist. You mustn’t.

Freedom needs you now more than ever. The fight has only just begun. But we must be clear what the strategy is and what the battle plan looks like.

Tonight the Democrats voted to put people in jail who have no insurance, raise the costs of health care, destroy the federal government’s bond rating, keep unemployment high, and kill forever the mythological creature known as the pro-life Democrat.

On Friday, Rush Limbaugh said we should remember that there is a difference between the Democrats and Republicans. That is true. We see it tonight. But we need to be crystal clear on something — the Republican leadership remains accommodationist and fearful of being labeled the ‘party of no.’

Ladies and Gentlemen, I submit to you again that it is not enough to just throw out the Democrats in favor of Republicans. We must throw out the Democrats and replace them with the right kind of Republicans — conservatives who actually are conservative. And then we must insist that these newly elected Republicans not settle for the status quo in leadership. What is now need not be left in place.

Already we have a few Republicans positioning themselves in grand theatrics to call for full repeal of Obamacare. But these same Republicans in the past have talked about the good parts of the bill and how repeal should be measured. The only way to ensure today’s rhetoric turns into future consistent actions is to surround these Republicans with true conservative warriors.

Friends, if we are going to destroy the Democrats, we must first build up an army of real conservatives in Congress. Half measures, Democrat-lite, and men who compromise in favor of more government must be unacceptable.

Let me be blunt: any Republican who says we will repeal and replace will themselves be replaced. We want repeal period.

This is not to say we will not offer up our own ideas, of which there are many. This is to say that right now there is no consensus on what to replace this monstrosity with, so instead of nuancing just promise to repeal it. We don’t need cute and clever politicians right now, we need a commitment to repeal Obamacare.

Now, here is what we must do. The time for choosing is over. The time for fence sitting is at an end. If you are committed to the cause of freedom, if you are in it for the fight, if you want to win, you need to listen closely.

We need to support the conservative candidates I’ve listed below. We can shift the Senate to the right. We can put some of our more squishy Republicans in awkward positions by pairing them with another member of their state delegation who shines conservatively and brightly. This is our best chance to get real conservatives, not capitulators. This is our best chance to get men who will stand up with Jim DeMint and fight unapologetically for the American experiment. This is our time, but we must stand up and fight.

March

Mike Lee (UT)
If you live in Utah, show up Tuesday at your local caucus, become a delegate to the State Convention, and cast your vote for Mike Lee. Remember, Bob Bennett’s alternative health care plan is just as bad as Obamacare, complete with individual mandates, federal funding of abortion, etc.

May

Rand Paul (KY)
Marlin Stutzman (IN)
Pat Toomey (PA)

June

Chuck DeVore (CA)
Danny Tarkanian (NV)

August

Ken Buck (CO)
Marco Rubio (FL)

These candidates will deliver change we can believe in. I know a few of you have preferred candidates, but I trust this list. It is not comprehensive of all the races. But these are the races we can win if we rally now. Don’t hold off support either. Ken Buck needs your help this very day if he is to have what will get him through his race.

We can do it if we commit to it. I’ll give up Starbucks to fund these guys. I’ll get in my car and go help on the ground.

Once we have secured in the primaries an army of unapologetic conservative Republicans, we take the fight to the Democrats in every district. We preach the conservative gospel of individual liberty and choice and point out the only choice the Democrats want you to have is whether or not to kill a baby. We preach free markets, free people, and free voices. We remind the people that it is not the tyranny of big things that is going to get us, but the tyranny of small things done over time by the Democrats that destroy our bond rating, keep unemployment high, keep job growth low, and more and more bind Americans to the whim of the state.

There is a God, there is good, and there will be a last day. And on that last day we will win. Victory comes though we know not when. So we must be happy warriors until the end — warriors willing to fight with a smile and willingness to sacrifice for freedom.

We have not yet begun to fight.

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  • securitymom

    You betcha…

    This Grandma, Mother and Wife is now an offical female “senior” warrior…

  • E Pluribus Unum

    I’m in.

  • jonk

    I think we can all agree that the fewest people possible should have health care.

  • avgjo

    We cannot and will not allow the children and elderly of this country to be at the mercy of these pirates!

  • Swamp_Yankee

    People who preach repeal and don’t get the odds is one thing, but preaching repeal and ridding “RINOS” is conservative Narnia.

    About a hundred seats in the House. About twenty five seats in the Senate and a conservative POTUS all by 2012 or 2014.

    But lets fight solid Republicans in the name of purity. I feel sick.

  • Aaron Gardner
  • miconservative

    100% of the Republicans voted no. I agree we must repeal and hold everyone’s feet to the fire for repeal. But our fire must be trained at the other side. Starting with Stupak! Keep focused. Don’t let intermural crap divide us. United we stand and divided we fall.

  • tngal

    Now, we’re pi**ed.

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    your comment

  • grandma

    I’ve been fighting since ’86. Thought I was “retired.” NOT!

  • http://dezignworx-ae.com tsquare
  • ohiowill

    “There is a God, there is good, and there will be a last day. And on that last day we will win. Victory comes though we know not when. So we must be happy warriors until the end ? warriors willing to fight with a smile and willingness to sacrifice for freedom..”

    These words will be printed, placed in my wallet, and carried with me. Later, they will be taught to my children in 30-40 years when the Statists get another chance.

    I’m all in.

  • ocleverone

    I plan to make a trip down to work on his campaign. I just want to see when they would need me most.

    Tomorrow I am calling Keith Fimian’s office to volunteer immediately. Connolly has got to go and he is closest to home. I can work weekends for the Fimian’s campaign.

    http://keithfimian.com/

    Over the next couple of weeks, I am going to be looking at the conservative candidates nation wide and dropping checks into the mail for them.

    Whatever it takes.

  • rsexteriors

    and not let this defeat us.

    I emailed Carney last night and told him that his “yes” vote shows he is NOT pro life and that I will work tirelessly to defeat him. I will also help Pat Toomey in the Senate race.

  • http://todaysasbestos.wordpress.com scotteiland

    But Erick’s right. We have to move forward and focus on killing this monstrosity and use EVERYTHING in our arsenal to vote the tyrants out.

    And we must replace them with patriots. I wish we could vote tomorrow!

    I am proud of my Representative, Virgina Foxx, who is as solid as she comes.

    Is there any chance the North Carolina State government might join texas, south carolina, etc in suing to block this?

  • briancobbs

    but HELL YES. I needed this. Thank you Eric. I’m getting out my credit card and donating right now.

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    seems appropriate:

    Enjoy – http://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/moviespeechhenryV.html

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    not only in the general, but also the primary.

  • gekster

    saying how much he is going to fight this bill.

    Micheal……… Where the HELL have you been??????

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    …but it requires pressure, involvement, and action from We the People

    Visit the 10th Amendment Center for more: http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/

  • PaladinLostHour

    All Erik is suggesting is that, in between suntans, we hold Bonnie Jonnie Boehner’s feet to the fire when the Republicans regain power. It doesn’t have to be *every* Republican who gets the need to “repeal, not replace”, but it darn sure has to be the leadership, and the best way to send that message is to make sure the wobblies tack right or face primary challenges.

  • douglast

    As we know, Obama and Democrats constantly sold this bill on lies and distortions, while at the same time accusing the opponents of doing that very thing. To my eyes, two of the most egregious were:
    1) This bill will reduce the deficit
    2) This bill will reduce both premium and medical service costs.

    So, how long will it take these people to realize – their costs aren’t coming down. The deficit reductions aren’t there, and they realize they were duped?

  • msctex

    But I’m going to repeat myself one more time. If we make the mistake of endowing the enemy with our own characteristics, we will suffer undue pain and anxiety. What happened tonight is reprehensible. But the Bill’s creators are not constrained by Reason, Common Sense, or any of the most fundamental aspects of behavior we take for granted in what Mencken termed a “Serious Person.” They will fail as they always do; as I write this there are State Attorney Generals and Governors on conference calls, behaving like responsible adults, deciding the best way to undo the damage. The Democrats allowed themselves to treat tonight as something it simply is not: a true victory, which cannot be undone. Between the States, the SCOTUS, and literally countless potential individual lawsuits, there is no reason to believe this won’t have devolved into genuine farce just around November. So weep that it could have happened, but take it for what it is, everyone. They’ve mined their own fields.

    Hoist by their own retards.

    (Yes, I know.)

  • atomicroach

    We just learned that there are no moderate Democrats. Where was the maverick Democrat working with the Republicans to defeat his party’s legislation? Stupak folded with a bribe. Dumping McCain, Graham and others who love the press attention they receive by going against their party when push comes to shove will make us stronger.

  • http://funworksfunzone.com Roger_Allan

    There’s nothing to explain. The guys a troll. Just a matter of time before he gets stupid and Neil sends him packing.

  • PaladinLostHour

    Stupak and his cave-in caucus need to be defeated. All of ‘em that voted ‘aye’. Regardless of the monetary commitment required. If even one of them are in Congress in Jan 2011, the media will spin the story so it wasn’t that vote, or the wholesale 11th hour betrayal of pro-life that’s responsible.

  • Jack_Savage

    Time to say goodbye.

    I am sure you are happy you can stay on your parents’ health care until you are 26. Maybe they will let you continue to sleep in their bed until then too.

  • aesthete

    Odds are long enough without wasting money on seats that we already have. Good whips and a good Majority Leader/Speaker are more important in this bill.

  • usedtobelib

    with carrion men groaning for burial.”

    Funny, just earlier tonight I thought of the “lean and hungry Cassius” and couldn’t decide if Will S’s description fits Obama or Emmanuel better.

    However, the use of language that I have been calling for is achieved by “repeal and replace” and the “replace” works because it tells the people that R’s want change too, that making the system better is possible–they just want to get rid of the foul-smelling brew in the democrat’s cauldron.

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    We’re together in this.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    I wish I could be hopeful. I just don’t see how we can expect to win a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate before 2013…a solid filibuster proof majority that could sustain defections by RINOs like Snowe and Collins. Sounds like a fantasy.

    So we wait until after Obama is *hopefully* out in 2013? By then this monster will have grown tentacles that have wrapped around us so tightly that there’s no hope of escaping. A whole new group of stakeholders will have emerged. A new status quo will have been established. The bureaucratic inertia will be immense.

    I’d like to be hopeful, but to me, this looks like the end.

    GAME OVER.

  • cmw

    Agreed, we must fight on and fight hard. We need true conservatives with a record of standing up for conservative causes. In Central Texas, that mean getting behind Rob Curnock for Congress in Texas 17th. We need representatives who are one of us, not representatives who come in with Washington insiders running their campaign and Washington promises.

    More – http://www.facebook.com/robcurnock/ or http://www.robcurnockforcongress.com/ .

  • blivolsi

    is we need to elect strong men and women who are conservatives first, and Republicans second. We’ll never change the direction of this country if elect more Bob Benett’s (or Arlen Spector’s). We should not forget the ‘can’t we all get along’ republicans in the senate that helped make this disaster possible.

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    .

  • conservative_faction
  • AndrewHyman

    Erick mentions that right now there is no consensus on what to replace this monstrosity with. I hope that a consensus develops.

  • jenniferjmilleresq

    We will answer the call like our grandparents and great grandparents. Dark days are often very productive.

  • lurker9876

    Today makes it very clear the importance of being a member of a party; rather than being an independent OR staying at home like many angry Republicans did back in ’08.

    I read with dismay over at Cafe Hayek in October of ’08 when they started a post explaining why they would stay at home to skip the November 08 elections. I tried to tell them that they should go out and vote against Obama. But they chose to stay at home.

    It would be doubtful that had McCain won, we would never see today.

    However, McCain would never wake the sleeping giant. Today, that is the most significant accomplishment that Obama and his democrats made today.

    I see that Obama is planning a major tour across the nation to try and appease our anger over today’s vote. But never will he be able to appease our anger.

  • ghostship

    Sadly, I know that even if a Republican majority is elected to the congress that it will make no difference. The party has no backbone to repeal anything.

    The only thing to do now is wait for the eventual financial collapse of the US and hope that we can rebuild this country on the principals that this nation was founded on.

    I understand Erick’s call for us to not be pessimistic but it’s pretty hard not to right now.

  • PaladinLostHour

    Now is the time to gracefully move Steele out of the leadership. He’s not up to this – he’s not a strategist, he’s not a warrior, and he seems to have a peculiarly entitled sense of self-interest guiding most of his public actions.

    If it weren’t for the horrible optics, I’d suggest throwing whatever money it takes to bring Rove and Morris together under the RNC roof to steer this leaky boat.

  • http://fairfaxgardener.blogspot.com ddstrain

    Again, I call on everyone involved in the VA-11 GOP primary race to keep it clean and civil, don’t shed Republican blood and above all shred Connolly.

    I’m in VA-8 and stuck with Jimmy Moran, so I’ve adopted VA-11 just down the road. Keith or Pat, I don’t care … both are good guys in my book. I’ll have a Fimian or Herrity sign in my yard, next to whoever is the GOP VA-8 candidate.

    In VA-11, the enemy is Connolly … not other Republicans.

  • treeofliberty

    Talking about how only “Democrats stand for life blah blah blah” how he could say that with a straight face only him and God will know.

    I do believe there is a special place for charlatans who pretend to be pro life and then weasel out in a crucial moment like this for short term political gain.

    I’m glad Stupak has been stripped of the “Defender of Life” award (puke), he’s a corrupt, sleazy politician who I now put up there with Reid and Specter on the list of Dems I would most LOVE to see given the boot in Nov.

  • lurker9876

    McCain was portrayed as Mr. Maverick. I hope we never see another maverick that will go against the Republicans like McCain and Lindsay Graham have done in the last few years.

    Never again.

  • Stan(ley) Pruss

    Would you support any of the 8 Erick named? Are their any others you would recommend my sending money? Why? I live in illinois and won’t be able to vote for anyone I like. I will vote straight R anyway.

  • Jack_Savage

    I will not be pessimistic tomorrow, but realistic. I will be prepared to explain why this bill is a disaster, and I will tell anyone who will listen.

    Hearts and minds. Hearts and minds. Assuming the person you talk too has the latter…

  • gekster
  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    n/t

  • Menlo

    The bill does not allow for that.

    However, you are kidding yourself to think that any future elections can make a difference.

  • http://dezignworx-ae.com tsquare

    How long wilt thou forget me, O LORD? for ever? how long wilt thou hide thy face from me?

    How long shall I take counsel in my soul, having sorrow in my heart daily? how long shall mine enemy be exalted over me?

    Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;

    Lest mine enemy say, I have prevailed against him; and those that trouble me rejoice when I am moved.

    But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation.

    I will sing unto the LORD, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.

  • http://funworksfunzone.com Roger_Allan

    N/T

  • discerningconservative

    Your doom and gloom has grown quite tiresome. You are either with us or against us. If you are with us, stay and help us fight. If you are against us, please feel free to leave and never return. Your choice.

  • http://dreamsfrommyforefathers.com RoguePolitics

    I didn’t even enjoy that.

    Time to buckle down.
    I am one who thinks repeal will not come before 2013. Defund could happen in January.
    As this is clearly a Pearl Harbor moment for America a Doolittle Raid is in order.
    Doolittle in November followed by Midway in 2012.

  • shaitra

    is what I’m feeling right now. I will take tonight to grieve and tomorrow I will get back to the fight. Thank you Erick for all your encouraging words. They give us strength to keep going.

  • fightinsideofme

    You probably should have.

  • ocleverone

    Connolly is the one that needs to be defeated. If Herrity is the candidate, I will work with him.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    If this stays in place, just remember how you were duped on your deathbed after your potential life saving surgery gets denied by a bureaucrat while your neighbor’s kid has their runny nose checked for the umpteenth time.

    Hey, let’s be more like the failed states!

  • Jack_Savage

    But you will probably only get one.

  • brumbow

    We need to tell our friends and our friends of friends to get involved in this fight (and a fight it truly is). We need to tell everyone we know to get on RedState so they can contribute to these senatorial campaigns so that we can swing the balance of the Senate not just to Republicans, but to Conservative Republicans who will stand on principle; not waffle and become big government, establishment politicians.

    Tonight a battle was lost but this is a long war against those who would trample the Constitution and see this great country fall by the way of ancient Rome. This vote should galvanize us and our countrymen for this long fight. Thanks Erick for all that you do.

  • eburke

    Me? I think I’ll fight a while longer.

  • gekster

    This is a just asking.

  • partyof1

    the Dems just wanted cover for 5 minutes so they could vote

    I’ll pimp this diary exposing Obamacare deficits again. Remember this how the media said nothing. (not my diary)

    http://www.redstate.com/ahffgeoff/2010/03/20/cbo-obamacare-at-least-100-billion-in-deficit-spending-over-10-years/

  • rfpzzzzz

    Repeal is delusional. You need an impossible number of victories in Nov. to override a presidential veto and that just isn’t going to happen. Picking fights over impossibilities is stupid.
    This thing just passed. They are going to be encouraged to shove more crap down our throats. You will be lucky if you see legitimate elections from here on.
    Good people do not agree on everything . Dick Cheney supports Gay Marriage , for God’s sakes. Scott Brown is not a Mississippi conservative.
    We need more people not less. If one or two branches of congress are not taken over in Nov , this country could see the repeal of 1776.

  • itrytobenice

    But I’ll echo Conan in saying that it involves the lamentations of their women.

    And yes, I’m all in on these candidates, Erick. There are some good ones there.

    And I’m still VERY high on Popaditch in TX and Adam Kinzinger in IL.

  • Mayhem

    No holds barred. Take no prisoners. The Democrats just nuked our country, so now it’s WAR.

  • Menlo
  • OccamsRazor

    .

  • E Pluribus Unum

    OK, don’t be hopeful. Have no plan of action. Have no response as the Constitution is shredded by evil people.

    But not me, and not RedState. Washington got his butt kicked several times, right up until the Christmas Crossing.

  • groveratt

    and any other thing the democrats try to shove down our throats. I am not going out like some PUNK!

  • gekster

    To quote the great John Wayne, A very great American,
    “Don’t give no shit, don’t take no shit.”
    I don’t think Americans will take this shit.

    Sorry for the language, but now I’m pissed.

  • JSobieski

    It will likely take more than 1 election cycle to win back our freedom as Americans, but we will do it.

  • GregInFla

    Most corporate insurance plans are “cadillac” plans. So we workers at said companies will be getting smaller paychecks or reduced benefits. And health insurance companies will go outta business due to negative net worth. No one will want to own their stocks, because they cannot make a profit. So all of their employees become unemployed, or USGovt (SEIU) workers. But the Dems will say “What, we did not do that? How were we to know that your insurance company would go outta business? You cannot blame us!” Atlas Shrugged is now in the non-fiction aisle at the bookstore.

  • gekster

    If sarcastic, maybe.
    If not. Why?

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    Allahpundit at HotAir banned me this evening, after years of posting there, for language very close to yours.

  • Richard Mullins

    We don’t need to fight amongst ourselves by purging the more moderate Republicans that are with us, we need to kill off the Dems first before we can even think of purity. Just because they are Moderate doesn’t mean that we can’t persuade them. We seemed like somehow we were going to lose but the game isn’t over.

  • pilotguy40

    May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.

  • GregInFla

    the US People would side with the President in the veto. Vetoing bills that the people want makes for an uncomfortable presidency, and one in which the POTUS accomplishes little. POTUS has to give in sometimes.

  • Jack_Savage

    I’m using that line.

  • http://fairfaxgardener.blogspot.com ddstrain

    I need to plan for the family now. I’m a pessimist. The Senate version will be signed in a Rose Garden ceremony with all the pomp and circumstance that the best in Hollywood can produce.

    We can fight to repeal. But while we try to change the make-up of Congress the medical and health insurance industry will be making adjustments to prepare for the coming government takeover.

    My employer’s health insurance provider has just given notice that it is exiting the the employer-based health insurance market. This company bailed out of Texas in October apparently, and now it is exiting in the DC area. MY HEALTH INSURANCE OPTIONS HAVE DECREASED ALREADY. And this is only going to get worse…and fast. The non-tax provisions might not start to kick in til 2013, but business will not wait. They are moving now to prepare.

    Starting tomorrow, we are scheduling every specialist, surgery, orthodontia, and whatever else we can get in before the rationing starts.

    I’ll keep working to get Conservatives elected. I’ll donate time and money when and where I can. But I’m a pessimist…we are stuck with the effects of Obamacare NOW. Regardless of any success in repealing this monstrosity, we need to prepare NOW.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    to set up escrow accounts and nullify the collection of taxes for programs that are not in the enumerated powers of the Federal Central government.

    The problems of spending other people’s money are all around us, be it in our healthcare arrangement (besides the nominal copay, I see little difference whether I consume judiciously or not) or Representatives “bringing home the bacon”, there is little incentive to be frugal. We need to move the funding of spending decisions back closer to the beneficiaries and end the out-of-control open buffets that pervade our Federal Central government.

    We fight this on every front we can, including the state level.

  • DavidS1787

    Let them know that you will do everything within your power to help defeat
    these people that voted for this healthcare bill!

  • Swamp_Yankee

    I’d support Chris Christie and Scott Brown, but before people realized how much of a mess the country was in, both were cast off as RINOs by the great RINO hunters. And I was behind them both, while the “real” conservatives were busy excoriating me for not supporting guys like Lonegan.

    Its not always ideology, its also a matter of resources. We are all not retired, rich, stay at home parents… resources are limited

    For the poor working class folks, like me, how do we stop ObamaCare? How do we get our super majority?

    10$ to fight Harry Reid, or $10 to fight RINOs like Kelly Ayotte

    10$ to fight Bart Stupak or $10 to fight RINOs like Joseph Cao

    10$ to fight Mike Bennett or $10 to fight RINOs like Mike Castle

    After this vote, we should be busy kicking the ass of liberals, trying to build a super majority and trying to save our country.

  • gekster

    second nt

  • 1stRichard

    Republicans should have been repealing a long time ago, we just took a hundred steps to the left but we have taken a million steps over the years. Bipartisanship must end, no more candy coated poison bills, and Republicans must no longer compromise our Constitution. All Republicans must stand right of center to take us in that direction and I do not see how anyone can get all Republicans standing on that side of the fence. If anyone can see this please point it out.

    This seems simple, united they must stand divided they fail therein all must be on one side of the fence or fail, and now the fence moved further to the right?

  • joayn

    Sounds great to me. Especially the retribution part.

  • charliebravoNH

    Full repeal is highly unlikely, unless we win the White House in 2012 with huge super majorities in the House and Senate and enact a full repeal in 2013 before the benefits of the program kick in. The solution would be after 2014 is to do what Reagan and Gingrich did to the Great Society, kill it with a thousand cuts.
    This new law now will be more likely to be altered, because of lawsuits and electoral changes than fully repealed. We should never hold our candidates to that high of a bar and later desert them when they don’t achieve it. Restoring Constitutional Government must be a long term never ending mission of the Republican Party.

  • PaladinLostHour

    If you really believe its hopeless, just stay home, clasp your knees, and rock back and forth on your couch while chanting ‘the end is near’. The rest of us will be busy getting our country back.

  • DavidS1787

    Let them know that you will do everything within your power to help defeat
    these people that voted for this healthcare bill at the polls in November!

    Obamacare Bill

    Sorry for the repost.

  • DavidS1787

    Let them know that you will do everything within your power to help defeat
    these people that voted for this healthcare bill at the polls in November!

    Obamacare Bill

    Sorry for the repost.

  • Mary Beth

    It’s one thing to take just Psalm 109:8 and play off of it because the wording is innocuous and can be manipulated into being about Obama as a one termer…it’s quite another to include the rest of the text which very clearly wishes for his death…verse 9 explicitly so.

    You really need to think about what you say before you say it.

  • DavidSage

    This was an awful bill, but I would disagree with some other conservative commentators that think it’s game over, and now have socialized medicine. I would be much more depressed if a truly single payer, Medicare-for-all bill had passed. What we have is a ridiculous health care bill that no one will like that by the time it goes into effect, it won’t have any teeth.

    I really see the states stepping up to nullify ObamaCare. The mandated Medicaid expansions will be killed by the states because it’s simply unaffordable, whether it’s Republicans or Democrats in power, these expansions won’t happen. Eventually even the bluest of states will have to finally recognize their budgets won’t be able to sustain it.

    Also, there are real Constitutional grounds that the federal government can’t force people to buy health insurance, I see this part also fading away.

    In the next 10 years, the US will be lucky if it can still just afford basic Medicare Americans over 65, much less any sort of universal health care. At some point liberalism simply hits a wall.

  • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

    Invoke the 10th

    http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/03/21/kill-the-bill-invoke-the-10th/

  • hickorystick

    and what do you mean by using Bonnie?

  • E Pluribus Unum
  • PaladinLostHour

    “The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof…”

    In other words: Act LOCALLY. Work to move 2/3 of the state legislatures to pass a proposed Constitutional Amendment prohibiting core aspects of HCR (eg the mandate, a public option, etc). If it even gets near 2/3, the Dems will cr*p their pants and RUN, not walk, to repeal it themselves. The last thing they want, with the Tea Party aroused, is an open-ended Constitutional Convention on their hands.

  • GregInFla

    since I read it a year ago. It describes a world that resembles where this place is going. But by having AS, we can prevent it from happening. You cannot force a company to provide a service. You cannot force a man to work. When many insurance companies close their doors (like Walgreen’s in Wash. state do to Medicaid last week) and doctors refuse Medicare patients, I hope we can do better than the responses in AS. I fear for the future, but vow not to accept its eventuality.

  • partyof1

    What they need is a state version of Obamacare to bring that down.

    Oh wait.

  • proudgop

    I literally feel worse then I did on election night

    I am scared for this country and have zero hope. We have entered the socialism stage

    I wish every state leg with republican Governor immediately went into work tomorrow and do what idaho already has done even if its symbolic

  • Richard Mullins

    and I’ll never support that. We’ve gotten close to 60 but the only reason we can get a Super majority is because we don’t try hard enough as well as lots of infighting. No more of that, we need to have one goal in mind.

  • GregInFla

    Just received Senate Conservatives Fund:

    If you’re willing to join me in the fight to save freedom, we can settle the score in November by electing true conservatives who will repeal this unconstitutional and dangerous bill.
    The simple truth is the bill cannot be fixed. It must be repealed.

    Click Here to Sign the “Repeal ObamaCare Pledge”

  • Jill1066

    “Let me be blunt: any Republican who says we will repeal and replace will themselves be replaced. We want repeal period.”

    I’m not sure this is the best approach. It will be very hard to repeal this monstrosity because we need to win a majority in the house, 60+ Senate seats, and the White House to do it. We obviously can’t count on any reliable help from so-called “sensible” Democrats. We will win seats in 2010 and maybe get the House back. We’re not going to get enough votes to override a Presidential veto so the earliest we can repeal this is 2013 if we get a Republican in the White House.

    It’s hard to beat something with nothing. If we can’t directly repeal it, we can sure change it bit by bit until we make it unrecognizable to Obama, Pelosi, and their gang of socialists. They forced it through with a 3 vote majority and no public support. We have to be prepared for a long campaign to wrest the nation back from the socialist track its been put on.

  • joayn
  • fpete13527

    Repeal, retribution, and conservative candidate avalanche.

  • Menlo

    The percentages of people who feel the same way with the same intensity are not there. Most people in this country either support this bill or don’t know or care much about it. They are going to want candidates who will address other priorities, as is the case now.

    Besides, whatever would need to be done would require the Republicans to be a party of drastic and extreme measures that don’t necessarily go along with what is called “law.” Such people would obviously be unelectable in any state or district, let alone a majority of them.

    Finally, the system of government doesn’t make it possible. Republicans have never had and never will have 60 senate seats with majorities across the board. It’s just the way people in this country believe.

    It’s just the way government behaves and the way people believe. We are far too outnumbered by people who will never see things the way we do.

  • OccamsRazor

    Lawyers know what an appeal is, right? Republicans need to make sure that Public perception isn’t watered down like the boiling frog between now and Novermber. Make sure it’s said loud NOW that we won’t stand for this BS!!!!

  • joayn
  • treeofliberty

    And I don’t think we will need “super” majorities (although that may come by 2012) or even the Presidency to begin defunding the bill.

    If the tsunami comes in November we will have majorities in Congress and will be able to keep on sending the spending budgets to BHO without the funds for this monstrosity. He can’t veto them all without shutting down gov. and in any event if that scenario unfolds Obama’s position will be much much weaker than it is right now.

    But even if that doesn’t happen, after Nov. Republicans will be able to make things difficult for this bill to have any “teeth” as you say and once BHO goes down for the count in ’12 we can really begin getting to work putting this country together.

    Not saying it’ll be easy, but I am optimistic when I see the amount of awareness and intensity from my fellow Americans in this. It tells me we’re not going down to the statists without a fight.

  • redpens

    38 states are considering legislation to block Obamacare. That’s more than enough to approve a Constitutional Amendment.

  • PaladinLostHour

    1) Boehner sponsored & voted for the No Child Left Behind Act, working with Sen. Teddy Kennedy of Massachusetts, to make sure it became law. Result: since bill signing, federal education spending has more than doubled.

    2) Boehner also voted for the Medicare prescription drug entitlement, This was the first new entitlement program since President Lyndon Johnson left office, a huge betrayal of conservative principles, and essentially paved the road for Nancy Pelosi to drive HCR through.

    His rhetoric – lately – has been ok. His track record, bluntly, sucks. This time ’round, he needs to understand that the keys to the kingdom are going to come with strings attached, and in Jan 2010, he’d darn well better deliver.

    Oh, and “Bonnie”? Not the girl’s name – the adjective, like the Scots use: “Physically attractive or appealing; pretty.” A reference both to the *superficial* appeal of his rhetoric without strong backing actions, and his clear vanity (no one tans like that unless they like looking at themselves in the mirror or are currently on an MTV, Italian-slurring reality show).

  • joayn

    Honestly, these people should be banned for being fools if not trolls.

  • RealQuiet

    Should the American be afraid or despondent to tackle something difficult is the day this country is truly finished.

  • OccamsRazor

    It’s analogous to the economic Asian economic paper tiger of the day. This was a bill ‘deemed and passed’ without American consent. The rule of law has been abandonded by the minds of many. This ‘legislation’ is nothing of the sort, and it’s foundations are lies and a milquetoast spines. Whisper Republic, and the house of cards will blow over.

  • joayn
  • hickorystick

    All the kids graduating high school and college, and can’t find a job, will never forget what a Democrat President is like. Carter is still the worst.

  • groveratt

    tonight with the crazy thing of my oldest daughter can stay on my insurance until she is 26. He was trying to spin it to me as if this Obama thing will benefit me. Well I guess that is great BUT I don’t want this to benefit me if it is going to destroy my country! He tried harder to sell it to me that if I switch insurance companies, they will have to cover my pre-existing condition of some back issues I have had. AGAIN I SAID TO HIM, I do not want this crazy thing because it is going to destroy my country! He thinks I am crazy and is not speaking to me. I guess he is not a friend now?

  • jmimac351

    The quesion is whether there are more of us than there are of them. This will not be repealed politically, As usual, Republicans will not have the guts to be accused of “taking away your healthcare”. Many of them are gutless and lack the will to clearly articulate the threat we are facing. We are staring totalitarianism in its face. Yet, Boehner, Cantor and the rest of our “Leadership” are more concerned about being polite with the enemy.

    I enjoyed watching Boehner tonight on the House floor. It appears he has a pulse. The problem is, that speech should have happened years ago when Republicans consistently walked away from Conservatism. “Hell NO, we won’t pass a prescription drug entitlement”. Actions like that cost them the trust of republicans and conservatives and has led directly to this day.

    I blame the Republicans for being weak.

    Our only hope is for this to be struck down by the Court. Barring that, only a series of individual skirmishes will be the result as the lure of yet another entitlement sets in for a nation full of slackers.

    I am disgusted with my country and we deserve whatever wrath we get. I will continue to fight and see to it that Suzanne Kosmas knows my name. And I will pray God that this is a lesson for all of us.

  • treeofliberty

    “Most people in this country either support this bill or don?t know or care much about it”

    I really can’t believe you comment here on RS and can make a statement like that: poll after poll have shown consistently the American people are DEAD set against this bill.

    The activism and intensity of the demonstrations and the electoral campaigns (remember Scott Brown replacing Ted Kennedy’s seat in MASSACHUSETTS!!!!) have been nothing but inspiring.

    How can it be possibly called “extreme” to repeal an unpopular bill from the most unpopular Congress in HISTORY??

    What the leftists are doing in Congress is extreme: thus the rock bottom approval ratings and BHO’s sinking numbers.

    Come on man, get a grip! Seriously!

  • PaladinLostHour

    and is kinda the reason I don’t read the Malkin sites anymore. She’s always been prone to over reaction (witness her getting booted from O’Reilly) and that attitude has spread downstream.

    That, and the fact that much of their content is just restated material I can find in the original on RedState or NRO.

  • Bill S

    I’ve heard that bull***t myself. I don’t want my kid on my insurance until he’s 26. I want him completely ON HIS OWN when he’s out of school.

    This is textbook leftist – suck off of the public (or in this case, parental) teat as long as possible. Screw personal responsibility.

    This is welfare, and nothing else. Nanny state crapola.

    My kids go off of my insurance the day they graduate from college.

  • mavericktime

    Why did Paul Ryan support the Medicare prescription drug benefit? I have a difficult time understanding why a fiscal hawk like Ryan would support a massive entitlement expansion like that.

    By the way, Lindsey Graham and Judd Gregg, two Republican Senators who I think make more sense than most, did not support that legislation.

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  • redpens

    Obama will never appease our anger. We will take it out on his party in November, and we will take it out on him in 2012. He is a one-term mistake for sure now. It won’t matter who the Republicans nominate.

  • discerningconservative

    Most people in this country either support this bill or don?t know or care much about it

    Here is a list of polls that prove that statement to be untrue.

  • PaladinLostHour

    There are just delayed payment plans, masquerading as insurance companies.

    Insurance companies assess risk, and issue/don’t issue different levels of coverage (assume liabilties) based on that assessment.

    This bill tells the ‘insurance’ companies:

    1) Who they must cover (everyone, eventually)
    2) What they can charge
    3) What products they must offer

    So, its beyond debate that they’re neither private, nor in the insurance business anymore. They are simply this: heavily regulated, government utilities.

  • redpens

    has proved that tonight once and for all.

  • Jonas Parker

    And what did we gain ? Did we turn back the march toward collectivism in any respect ? Are McCain, Graham, Bennett, etc going to turn this around ? If it doesn’t turn around, then we are wasting our time with all this talk, seriously, because we’re going the same place the leftists are, only more slowly.

    If the Republicans who are elected do not have a renewed vigorous vision to reverse the statist policies that have been in effect for decades, if they don’t have the motivation, if they can’t sell individual freedom and enterprise as the most desirable path with the most benefits for the vast majority of citizens, then electing them will be a pointless exercise. If they cannot articulate the fundamental immorality of the statist vision, then our efforts are truly in vain. The left doesn’t fight so that they don’t loose… they fight to win. If we can’t emmulate that, we won’t win the long term battle that is critical to what is pretty much, probably, our common concept of how this country should operate.

    So, scarce resources should go primarily to defeating ‘democrats’ (with my background as a historian, I now consider them communists.. and I’m willing and able to debate that if necessary), and I agree with you on that. But beyond that, there is a need to get Reps into office that have the guts and the committment to the larger struggle to win this fight, in the long run. We can’t afford any more ‘placeholders’, which has characterized every republican administration, and with a few exceptions, congresses, for the last 80 years.

  • thelonebostonconservative

    We will argue that the Republicans can administer health care better. It’s over. This can never be repealed. I feel for the people who will die because of this. And my fellow twenty-somethings who will watch our country decline over the 60 years.

    The entitlement society has won…even though a majority don’t want this.

    What a disaster.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    Paul Ryan not only voted for Medicare D, he also voted for TARP.

    And you know what, I dont care. I think he is amazing.

    But dont tell the RINO hunters, we cant afford to lose Ryan… TARP, Medicare part D… he probably has a few earmarks too.

    And sshhhh about that RINO Gregg, being it is so easy to hate a New Englander and all. The independent conservative spitrit only works one way. When Gregg stood up to Bush, when Bush was all the rage, Gregg was considered a traitor. Now being a toe the line Republican isnt cool anymore, maybe people will thank the old horse.

  • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

    may have imagined sterner action against Burnside than against Lee. But long-wrought prudence transformed his resolve into the lessons needed on that sweltering afternoon over six months later, to be the first to reach the heights, and to spare nothing in their defense.

    As our Chamberlains arise from this gory slope, may they and we do so with an equal measure of long-sighted wisdom.

  • joayn

    “By the way, Lindsey Graham and Judd Gregg, two Republican Senators who I think make more sense than most, did not support that legislation.”

    That’s it. That’s the ticket.

  • ReaganLives

    The UK is ranked number 18 by the World Health Organization, we’re number 37. I’m sure you weren’t implying this bill would make us better, were you!?

    http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

  • Jonas Parker

    That a hero of mine, Ronald Reagan, the sole exception to my comments on ‘administrations’, did have the right ideas and did manage to pass tax cuts and enable a certain economic sanity that served us well for a long time.

    But, Reagan was not served well by his successors, and even he did not roll back the state in any significant manner. If we can’t roll back the state, which hasn’t happened since Wilson, or some would argue with cause, the first Roosevelt, then our destination is clear, and all else is just chatter to keep us occupied along the way

  • gekster

    wich is above my kowalski, it’s not mine. it’s also in his first comment wich I was replying to.
    I’m asking him to clarify, if he would, something I don’t understand the way he means it.
    I’m not pickin here. just asking..

  • mavericktime

    He has an amazing command of the numbers. But I plan to call his office and ask why he supported Medicare Part D. It makes no sense.

    I am okay with the support of TARP. I think it was necessary, even if Wall Street is sleazy. The banks are paying the money back from what I hear.

  • gekster

    3rd nt

  • Swamp_Yankee

    Politicians are nothing but stewards.

    This war was lost in the culture war; in the schools, the arts, the media, academia, holywood….

    There will never be some super majority of conervative activists politicians. The reality is astounding to me.

    Conservatives hate everybody. They hang their hat on Jim DeMint, one guy. Even guys like Inhofe are out of favor.

    But still we are suppose to get to 60+ conservative Senators. But guys like McConnell are sinister. That math is not going to happen.

    Politicians need 50% +. All politics is compromise. All politics. All.

    We need to gut the liberal base, demolish their leaders and build our own strong leaders. Then the middle will come along. There is no majority without the middle and this country will never possess 50 + majority of people who hang out on Redstate.com all day.

    We need to woo the middle, not alienate them. Destroy the Left, tear down their Left and build out own leadership.

    Where would the Left be without Blu Dogs and Stupak Block Dems? Nowhere. They spent decades in the wilderness and realized that.

    We need the middle. We need Chris Christie. We need Scott Brown.

  • proudgop

    that worse of it

    I knew the day I graduated college I would be kicked off my parents health care in about 6 months now all these kids will travel and do odd jobs for little money and not be responsible adults

    I didn’t graduate college too long ago and I knew many people who just went to graduate school to not enter real world and now they are only going to multiple and we get to all pay for the lazy generation we are enabling

  • hickorystick

    I’ve been in a black mood, and was thinking the worst. Glad i was mistaken.
    I normally approve of everything historically Scottish.
    Penetrating the Northern States districts is going require some different thinking, and increased flexibility and understanding. Some of the conservative knee-jerk reactions are going to alienate independants if applied or required from outsiders to these areas. Doing purity tests and demanding conformity definately do not work in northern coastal cities. If large majorities are to be gained, the candidates need to be appraised by being the one who is most conservative who authentically represent the area. Each States history and values are different.
    As far as points 1,2 these were decade old issues attempting to be resolved. I know most Conservatives prefer to spend as little money as possible, but there was a real problem this legislation tried to solve. President Bush truly was trying to be compassionate and do what was right. I’m glad there is a framework for testing schools to determine which ones are failing. If State and Fed Politicians could find the guts to enforce discipline when a school is failing, it would save tremendous amounts of money not having to subsidize failed students for the rest of their life. As far as Grannies drugs, OK , I’m a spendthrift, got a weak spot there.

  • Menlo

    It’s a question of where people’s priorities are. The vast majority have other priorities now; many more will have other ones several months and years from now! They won’t want time spent on this. The numbers will not stay, and they will not spread to enough places. People will indeed believe Republicans are “taking away health care.” The issue will never be taken seriously.

    A repeal is not extreme; but it’s not happening without the presidency together with the numbers in Congress all willing to push it through no matter what it takes. Those numbers are not happening, especially to include those unwilling to withdraw the idea after the first hint of objection.

    Republicans, and certainly conservative ones, have never had the numbers; and they never will. The same is true of the voting population.

  • gekster

    And the bennies don’t kick in for three years.
    Yeah. They’re going to ignore that.

  • Section9

    Most of the Beltway crowd think like David Frum and Brooks. They would much rather be accomodationist than rock the boat. That way, no one calls them “racist” or obstructionist, and they get on the Sundayshows with all the cool kids.

    The entire Party needs to be purged.

  • redcometchar2010

    I know it seems like all might seem lost. We have been dealt a tremendous blow today. The Democrats in Congress, with contempt in their hearts, and a suicidal delusion in the heads have inflicted upon this country this monstrosity of a “healthcare” bill. I know it might seem a proper time to despair and give up. I ask you, I beg you, to keep hope alive.

    In 216 B.C. the Romans had been dealt a series of devastating blows by their mortal enemies the Carthaginians. In response they mustered the largest army ever organized in their nation’s history. They met their enemy on the fields of Cannae and when the day was over they had suffered the largest military disaster in their nation’s history. The cream of Roman’s soldiery lie slain on those bloody fields and the path to Rome lay open. They could have despaired, but they kept on fighting and after a long series of battles and with much blood, sweat, and tears, they prevailed. In 1940, the British had been routed and France had been conquered. Nazi bombers rained death and destruction on English cities while the rest of the world looked on. The British were alone, yet they fought on. Five years later the 1000 year Reich was destroyed and the British were victorious. In 1980, America was in a malaise. Stagflation was beating us down and our moralizer in chief told us we would have to survive with less. The Soviets were in Afghanistan and the Evil Empire was spreading like a cancer upon the free world. Nine years later the wall was torn down and it was morning again in America.

    Today, our Congress has sacrificed our trust and our future at the altar of Marx. I will not lie and say this is a good thing. Yet out of evil good can come. I like many of you have beseeched the Almighty in an attempt to forestall this disaster and yet it came. I have faith in Him that all will work out in the end, whether it be in our lifetimes or those of future generations, that remains to be seen. I know that whatever may come, the sufferings of this world are nothing in the great scheme of things and I have hope. Do not despair brothers and sisters. We still have a chance in the courts. We have time before this monstrosity becomes so entrenched into the fabric of our country that it cannot be removed. Our leaders have betrayed us. They have ignored us. This November, let’s send them a message they can’t ignore. In 2012 let’s send them a message they can’t ignore.

    “When it is dark enough, you can see the stars.”-Charles A. Beard.

  • Jonas Parker

    I am not advocating purism, but I do think there are a handfull of very visible people purporting to be ‘on our side’ that have hurt us significantly. I like your comments about building strong leaders and the middle will come. I’m not a conservative extremist, and am very aware of the pragmatism needed to accomplish our goals.

    My comments just reflected my thoughts that there is some validity to replacing certain Rep politicians who will hinder, and not help.

  • Jonas Parker

    especially and particularly in states and districts where it is very practical to elect people who are more anti-statist. And there are a number of those. Scott Brown is fine from MA, and I’ve very glad to have him, but I would not be happy if he was from UT.

  • AndrewHyman

    Erick said (with yellow highlighting), “Let me be blunt: any Republican who says we will repeal and replace will themselves be replaced. We want repeal period.”

    I just visited the National Review website, and they have an op/ed that says: “Conservatives will be able to capitalize on the discrediting of Obamacare, however it takes place, only if they campaign this fall on a pledge to replace this government-heavy system with true reform.”

    So there you have it: Redstate versus National Review. Yikes.

    My own view is that the GOP should definitely drop the incremental approach. Obamacare should not be repealed incrementally, but rather altogether. But I do think the GOP needs to offer a replacement. That’s the best way to moo the great American middle. So, I’m kind of leaning toward National Review on this one.

  • AndrewHyman

    Meant “woo” instead of “moo”!

  • avgjo

    to hold their feet to the fire, the way we did the Dems.

    Certainly, we kept the Dems at bay for 14 months. Think about that, FOURTEEN months, and they despise us.

    Imagine what similar pressure on our own people could garner.

    The reason the dems rammed this thru tonite, is that they have been put on notice: don’t do it and you lose your base. And without your base, you have nothing.

    We have to do the same to the Republicans. Then, the RINO/Conservative distinction is not so sharp.

  • redneck_hippie

    you’d all be right now if there were no RedState, no blogs, no twitter, nothing. Just look at the money we can raise at the snap of Moe’s fingers. We can do this, God willing.

  • hickorystick

    When I started University the slackers hanging out in college usually were living off their parents money. O great merciful one is really an enabler, dropping the costs on the taxpayer, disgusting!

  • mavericktime

    I said something similar to this earlier today – that we need to defeat the old guard liberals – like Waxman, Frank, Pelosi, George Miller – actually, anyone who stood in that group lineup for the photo-up after the health care bill passed.

    The problem is, they live in the most liberal states. Something may change in California though. They are probably going to do redistricting for state offices by an independent commission. They want to do it for Congress too. That’s one thing that Arne has promoted that’s a good thing.

    Fiscal conservatism is where it’s at. It’s probably the main issue for independents.

  • redneck_hippie

    The first increment is toss Ocare in its entirety into the dumper.

    Then we incrementally work on true reform in the context of a re-establishment of honest, small government.

  • http://medicalrantings.blogspot.com PostalMed

    Fulll repeal is possible and with a few tiny but important provisions will not require a super-majority. The Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988 was repealed after 18 months due to its being very unpopular, especially among the very senior citizens it was supposed to benefit. The Senate HCR bill contains only one or two clauses that would require a super-majority to repeal, but if the rest of the bill is erased around those clauses, they become pretty much useless. Yes, we would need 60 votes in the Senate to get cloture on a repeal bill, but by next year it might be possible to get the 5 or 6 extra votes we’ll need from scared-feces-less Democrats. And if not then, then 2013 remains an option. I suspect that well before 2013 there will be a huge cry from across the nation to repeal this nightmare.

  • AndrewHyman

    Hmm, I think creating Obamacare was more than an increment, so wiping it out must be too. If Obamacare is an increment, I’d hate to see a non-increment!

  • redneck_hippie

    :)

  • http://medicalrantings.blogspot.com PostalMed

    The WHO health ranking takes into consideration how “fair” and centralized the provision of health care is in a nation. So the mere passage of ObamaCare will make us rise in their rankings — before a single patient ever receives care under the provisions of the bill.

    But what more would you expect out of an international organization that is merely a safe harbor for discredited communists?

  • http://medicalrantings.blogspot.com PostalMed
  • Menlo

    It won’t have enough of a harmful and obvious impact on enough people to change electoral outcomes the amount needed.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    World Health Assembly members with serious conditions.

    That ranking will fall.

  • gekster

    that come November your wrong.
    I’ve got five pennies to your three.
    friendly wager.
    and you will still be wrong.
    disclaimer: IMHO
    I’ll accept the bet if you want.

  • zerodefects

    In classic Libtard fashion, the Democrats have once again given themselves more rope to hang themselves with. They honestly believe, “this bill is a good thing!”

    When we vote them out of office this Novermber (and 2012), they’ll eventually have to ask themselves, “was it really worth it?”

    The Democrat party is FINISHED….and this was THE FINAL STRAW.

  • zerodefects

    In classic Libtard fashion, the Democrats have once again given themselves more rope to hang themselves with. They honestly believe, “this bill is a good thing!”

    When we vote them out of office this Novermber (and 2012), they’ll eventually have to ask themselves, “was it really worth it?”

    The Democrat party is FINISHED….and this was THE FINAL STRAW.

  • avgjo

    That second-to-last stmt seems silly. The majority don’t want this because they are not the entitlement society. We the majority will put them in their place.

    They will learn to work.

    Don’t get mad or sad…get even!

  • avgjo

    That second-to-last stmt seems silly. The majority don’t want this because they are not the entitlement society. We the majority will put them in their place.

    They will learn to work.

    Don’t get mad or sad…get even!

  • 6eorge Jetson

    is just “mooing” at America.

    We Americans enjoy an open buffet of the finest medical services anywhere, be it for serious conditions or frivolous visits to get the runny nose checked.

    Of course, costs are out-of-control when the individual is incentivized to consume as much as he or she pleases, with someone else bearing the marginal cost.

    We can either return insurance to it’s proper role as insurance–not a maintenance plan for ordinary, predictable occurences–with the consumer getting to keep what he or she doesn’t spend on frivolous consumption, or we can go down the ZeroCare path and let some govt bureaucrat decide.

    ZeroCare completely misdiagnosed and mistreated the long term problem. As such, repeal is one-half of the long term solution. The other half involves selling the real grown-up solution, incentivizing consumers to consume wisely by shifting the costs of ordinary, predictable care away from a third party and onto the consumer. (With the consumer keeping what he or she doesn’t spend.) But that involves educating the public that there is no free lunch.

    It’s a long term problem that can be solved in 2010 or 2011. Personally, I’d solve the first half in 2010 and then begin the conversation with the American people in 2011, when we have a better balance of power in Congress.

  • http://xmmlbchat.blogspot.com katesmith

    Something I’ve always disliked but it’s been very successful Heck, they even got laptops for guys in Gitmo paid for by US taxpayers (Wash. Times 3/19). It seems we may get some action going in the legal area, which will help our representatives make better decisions.

  • redcometchar2010

    After tonight it is easy to feel anger and even borderline hatred for those who have inflicted this bill on us. It is easy to do so because we all here love our country very much and naturally you would feel great anger for those who have injured something that you loved deeply. However, there is something I love more than this country. It is written, “I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no other gods before Me.” I love God more than anything and His Son commanded us to, “But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,”. This is probably the hardest thing ever preached in the Bible, at least it is for me. However, on nights like this one, it is Him I turn to and even though this might sound preachy from me I have composed a modest prayer that might bring some of you comfort as it brings me comfort.

    “Lord, be with us tonight as we suffer from the bitter stings of defeat. Comfort us in our darkest hour and protect us from the snares of despair. Give us the courage and steadfastness to undo the damage that has been done here tonight and the strength to overcome any obstacle that we ourselves put in or way. Give us the strength to endure the dark days that lie ahead and be with the innocent who will suffer because of our brethren’s folly. Rescue us from the urge to hate our neighbors, though they have wronged us. Be with them tonight and in the future. Give them the wisdom to see their mistakes and the courage to rectify them.. We ask this in the name of Your Son who lives and reigns with You in the Unity of the Holy Spirit. Amen.”

    I hope this doesn’t come off as cheesy. It is heartfelt and in this sad day He is the One I know I can turn to. Good night and God bless all of you.

  • hickorystick

    without the filibuster we would have cap and trade, card check, and amnesty for illegals right now. Graham and a lot of Moderates were part of the gang. Susan Collins was the only one asking intelligent questions about the spending on Katrina, and what was being done for the money. There is a place for Moderates in the Party, they just don’t need to be at the center of it.
    President Bush laid out his agenda in his first State of the Union. He had massive spending projects and no one in the Party questioned it. This spending issue didn’t even come up till about 2005, with Coburn and his Pork Report . McCain has been on it his whole career, and no one would listen. This whole statist issue came up with Obama, then was retro-actively applied to Bush, and now some geniuses are drawing it all the way back to Teddy Roosevelt.
    Much of our problem is we didn’t police ourselves, so the electorate had to do it for us. MSM hated us in 2000, but we still built majorities thru 2004. We are in danger of losing our focus. The game is politics, and it has it’s own rules. It is a game of addition, not subtraction. We need to build ideas on how to govern not only the nation, but our own Party as well. And yes, some of the states are going to expect to be represented in a different way than the geographical core states of the Republican party.

  • avgjo

    But pray for our leaders. And God Bless them for showing courage, esp. Mr. Boehner.

    By God’s good grace, we will overcome.

  • avgjo

    But pray for our leaders. And God Bless them for showing courage, esp. Mr. Boehner.

    By God’s good grace, we will overcome.

  • http://www.rightklik.net rightklik

    What exactly is the plan?

    I’ll keep fighting, there’s no doubt about that. I just don’t see how this war can be won. Even if we take back Congress in November, Obama still has veto power. If Obamacare keeps growing roots until 2013, will we ever have the will or the power to uproot it?

    Nancy said we have to pass the bill to see what’s in the bill. What she really meant, I think, is that we have to pass the bill to get people addicted. Then the rest is history.

    ~~~
    joayn: Sorry I gave the impression that I’m a concern troll. If you check my blog, you’ll see that I am not.

  • cwilson

    I pick MM.

  • gored

    We lost, we’re the biggest bunch of losers, I just want to be able to yell racist things and spit at people.

  • rfpzzzzz

    I was caring for an elderly(90) relative around the time it passed . I was able to reduce her drug bill from about $6000 to $2400 per year by switching insurers/options within the program and using mail order. It was really a tremendous help. I do not know how the funding side from the taxpayer worked but the practical use of the program was very helpful. I imagine these would be some of his reasoning as well as the notion of a society taking care of their elderly. As a family member I worked very hard that our family took care of our own but this did help .

  • houstoneagle
  • houstoneagle

    .

  • CowboyUp4419

    We all should carry with us the roll call of the health care vote, or at least the partisan breakdown thereof. Heck, a screen shot from C-SPAN of the final vote total would do. Then whenever we come across someone who says there’s no difference between Republicans and Democrats and that it’s a good idea to stay home on Election Day to send a message we can provide for them some light reading material while we tar and feather them.

    After today “The Democrats and Republicans are both the same,” translates to “I am a willing accomplice to the Democrat agenda.”

  • redinsf

    But we all know he is just saying that because of his primary opponent.

    ERICK, ENDORSE HAYWORTH FOR GOD SAKES!!

    I am tired of the McCainian accomidationists. It’s getting f*cking ridiculous!

  • houstoneagle

    You instruct us to use the vehicle of prayer to wish death upon President Obama, whose name you disrespectfully corrupt. You call for his days to be few and point to a passage that confirms exactly what you mean:

    “Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.”

    Normally, I would report you to the Secret Service. However, I’ll wait to see what you respond, first.

    We don’t take our country back through thinly veiled threats of murder. We take it back by supporting the conservatives in the primary and the Republicans in the general.

  • houstoneagle

    And to the convention we go.

    We can get 34 states to get a convention.

    Then we need only 4 more to ratify.

    Congress and the President have no discretion in the matter.

    Maybe we should all call our state representative?

  • conservos
  • houstoneagle

    Drop everything and make one phone call RIGHT NOW.

  • conservos

    Christmas Eve did it for me and at that point, I realized the full extent of deception, deceivers, connivers and liars we were dealing with — which is all of them.

    Geared up to fight, polishing the keyboard, hitting the elliptical to stay fit, punching the bag for practice, making more connections, establishing more relationships.

    I realize this post may have required for you to pull your all into it, for us. I couldnt’ve done it.

    You’re extraordinary.

    Thank you.

  • Adjoran

    The “nuclear option” was merely to declare filibuster to be as intended, the method of cutting off debate on a bill, not preventing the Constitutional “Advice and Consent” on nominations.

    The filibuster itself was never an issue, because it is a matter of Senate rule – which had historically not been applied to judicial nominees.

    The MSM has hated Republicans since the ’60s. No need to stop the presses there.

  • bs61
  • http://manythings.blogtownhall.com/ egbegb

    I’m fine with repeal, but I’m thinking there’s a better way.
    Pre-tax funded individual health savings accounts that are government backed (overdraft protection) would be a “private option”. Should an individual choose the “private option”, participation in OCare would not be required and no fines or taxes would fall upon the individual. I have written about this at http://is.gd/aO1NZ. [About 2/3's of the way down, just below the -------- line, I described a workable plan for cheaper and better.] It is similar to the plan Governor Daniels of Indiana described and similar to the Whole Foods plan.

    Simply repealing this bill won’t make the problem go away. We must solve the problem and as an intended consequence destroy Ocare.

  • america1st

    RINO gregg still turns my stomach. The few times I voted for him it was with my nose firmly held. I thank him, yeah – - – - for retiring. Humphrey, Benson or Sununu for me, some true conservative – not an effete squishy blue stocking accommodator from the spinally-challenged bass / gregg / peterson gene pool.

  • Credo

    I’m in the 11th. That will have to be my focus this year to get Gerry Pelosi out of office.

    I think Pat and Keith are fine men. That left me with a polical calculation – who can best beat Gerry Connolly? I believe that man is Pat Herrity.

    www.patherrity.org.

    Also http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Pat-Herrity/27193131082?ref=nf

    I promise my friends supporting Keith that taking Connolly out is the objective. If I am wrong and Keith prevails in the Primary I will work tirelessly for him. I hope the Fimian supporters can do likewise if Pat prevails.

    We should treat this as an opportunity to organize and shout it from the mountain top that Connolly has to go.

  • abingtonjim

    The problem is that when they pay the money back it’s supposed to be returned to the treasury and used to reduce the debt. Instead, it’s being used for government giveaway programs. It’s become a slush fund. I can’t wait to see what they do with the $500 B+ they still have in unspent stimulas fufnds.

  • http://oceanslicentia.blogspot.com/ daniocean

    Pro-amnesty, pro-gun control, suporting Sothomayor, bashing fiscal conservatives Graham? This guy, siriously? I will soner suport a real-life elephant for president then RINO like Graham!

  • rangerwife

    and you have nothing intelligent to say, just cry “racist!” That will shut them up, muah ha ha ha!

    Oh the “tolerant” party…always the first to throw about insults…

  • http://oceanslicentia.blogspot.com/ daniocean

    I would dare ask, however, if from 60 senators 40 are RINOs what have we acomplished? What is the point of having big army of deserters? We need at least 35+ real conservatives and a strong whip, the rest can be RINOs from liberal states, but we need to have majority among our own. Then, and only then, there will be some room for the middle.

  • Born Again Capitalist

    My state Attorney General is taking this fight to the courts. We must take it to the polls. No seat is safe!

    http://bearingdrift.com/2010/03/21/as-soon-as-the-ink-is-dry/

  • makemyday
  • retail1

    about what DC was doing behind closed doors. Now I am angry! I have prayed, protested, prayed, pleeded, prayed and protested some more. And I will not stop fighting for our country. March on!

  • edintexas

    Very good. I’m left unsure whether that was sarcasm – or the droppings of a troll.

  • ocleverone

    The goal is to get Connolly OUT.

  • tom246

    My concern with all of this is how do we continue to fight for what we believe in? I know we “supposed to go to the polls and vote them out.” The problem is how do we know there will be elections in November? You think that sounds farfetched? How about a congress voting to enact tyrannical legislation against the will of the people -I know, it?ll never happen but what if.

  • edintexas

    If you get your health insurance through your employer (and most do), the normal situation is anything covered by your previous insurance is still covered. If you start a new job, the norm is everything is covered except for pre-existing conditions. Pre-existing conditions are normally covered after a waiting period, most frequently 2 years. People who buy their own insurance may be denied coverage by a company if they have a pre-existing condition, or may only have a waiting period. That depends on state law and/or the expected cost to the company for the condition. Companies aren’t in business to take on customers on whom they know they will lose money, except in the Democrat’s world.

  • http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/ reelman

    ?Its socialized medicine that makes socialism?socialism??..Dick Morris.
    Expect the same tactics for Amnesty and so on?at least until November.
    Its a bill so wonderful that 1.8 million federal workers were exempted?, yeah, right.
    History tells us its 3-9x more expensive than the (exempted) demo-socialist party claims.
    Since the modern national democrats have no ethical or moral boundaries?who can be surprised?
    Keep in mind we are at this point because Bush chose to be a punching bag and McCain chose to campaign as a tepid moderate
    along with the lib-media never fact-checking anything?so we ALREADY have 13 trillion in debt, 2x the jobless and
    now nationalized Health Care Phase I with more mischief on the way for years.
    When will voters learn that secular socialism is a very expensive cruel fantasy that has failed worldwide and will fail here?
    http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish

  • edintexas

    Most Conservatives don’t “…want to spend as little money as possible…”. Most Conservatives want the Federal government to be bound by the Constitution, which was the general idea when the Constitution was written. You have totally misunderstood the entire idea as being only about money, and therein lies the problem, You have bought in to the idea that the government should “take care” of the people. That is not the role of the government, at least not the role when this Constitutional Republic was founded. It is the role of a Socialist government. I know the horse is long since out of the barn, and it is virtually impossible to put the horse back in the barn (enough of the agricultural comparison), There are too many people on the government dole to ever cut off the gravy train. My grandchildren, and great-grandchildren will be either sloths, living on the handouts of the government, or workers supporting the sloths.

    By the way, where in the Constitution do you find the Federal government’s power to be in any way involved in “education”?

  • mbecker908
  • Next93

    “Today, Americas workers and small businesses have the security of knowing that neither illness or assident can destroy thier dreams”.

    No, I now have to the Government to destroy my dreams. This is SO much better.

  • edintexas

    “We are all not retired, rich, stay at home parents? resources are limited”

    Let’s see. My wife and I are retired. We’ll be parents until the day we die, or our children do (God forbid). Except for some volunteer work, we mostly stay at home. But I really don’t think there are very many people who fit all the elements of your stated group – retired, rich, stay at home parents. It would be difficult enough to be parents and rich, much less retired and have children at home (though I’m not so sure these days, I hear kids never want to leave).

  • deadreckoning

    or quick. We must be in this for the long haul and persevere. The many allusions to war are quite appropriate; not for the reasons of violence as a few over emotional people have suggested. No, the analogies to war are accurate because it will take time, resources and a strong commitment to see it through to the end. Battles will be lost, guaranteed. But our determination must not waver although we become weary and tempted to settle for anything less than a return to our constitutional democracy.

    I am all in. I see great things ahead for my country and for those that love freedom. There will be pain, but the fight is more than worth it.

  • edintexas

    Sadly, there probably exists a majority of the people who believe the MSM about most everything, including “saving the filibuster”. You are correct as to the issue, but being correct and speaking the truth isn’t the business of the MSM any longer (if it ever was, we didn’t have the easy ability to “fact check” the MSM decades ago).

  • tngal

    I’m a happy warrior. Downright giddy. And I see the longerterm goals of getting certain candidates elected. But the Senate is now dealing with the recon package and I’m wondering is there’s anything we can do or is this all in the hands of those who know “parliminary procedure”?

  • edintexas

    What is it that needs to be done? Covering people with pre-existing conditions? How? Would you require private companies to sell them policies? If so, would you also be in favor of requiring auto insurance companies to sell collision coverage to people who have already had a collision? The principle is the same in that you would be forcing a company to lose money. Would you be in favor of putting these people on Medicaid? What about their assets if you favor Medicaid? There are things which can be done, but we have to be very careful about what we agree to. Tort reform has worked fairly well here in Texas. We have had an influx of doctors (though to be honest I can’t say tort reform was the sole reason). Should the states set up “pools” for covering people with pre-existing conditions, as they do for high-risk drivers? That might be a viable solution. But don’t forget that most people get their health insurance through employers, and often the employer’s insurance actually covers pre-existing conditions – either through continuous employment or through a waiting period for claims only on that condition (while paying other claims). The Dems admitted this, just not in so many words. They wanted to “free people from being tied to their job” so they wouldn’t lose their coverage for current medical condition. So we all are supposed (going) to pay so John Q. Public can move from job to job without having a problem with health insurance coverage. How did the people, or the Republic, ever survive without these benefits? We certainly can’t expect someone, whom life has provided lemons, to figure out for himself how to make lemonade.

  • yoyo

    Where are the other 7 states? I only count 50….

  • leaddog

    erick I’m with you all the way but I have to take exception with your choice in Nevada. Can you talk about your choice of Tarkanian over Sue Lowden? Everything I have read about her tells me she is the superior candidate. Why do you favor Tarkanian?
    tom.wing

  • yoyo

    I cannot see how someone can look at my two Senators and believe that they are from the same State AND members of the same political party.

    I swear, Lindsey epitomizes the “Big Tent” theory and all that is wrong with it. If all you are going to do is stink up the place, get the hell out!

    John Spratt (D, SC-5) even touts him on his web page. oddly, I cannot find anything that he is joining with Jim DeMint in introducing in the House. Here is the link: http://spratt.house.gov/2010/03/senator-graham-and-congressmen-clyburn-and-spratt-co-sponsor-rural-energy-savings-program-bill.shtml

    LOG has gots to go. Send him back to Central, SC asap.

  • iluvit

    We certainly need to clean out the Republican party of the non-conservatives and replace those Demoncats with conservative Republicans. I could not disagree more, though with your comment that we should not someone who wants to reppeal and replace because we have not idea what that would be. That is not so. The are a handful of measures such as allowing the selling of insurance across state lines and tort reform for cases tried in federal court ar good plans and would be helpful to everyone and would lower costs and would cost nothing to do.

    Our best chance to stop this legislation is to starve the beast.. We control the money. The people have the ability to go around all the politicians and the President and simply change their W9 line 7. Change it to EXEMPT and put the extra money aside in a coffee can of something if the time ever come that you decide that you want to send it in. If millions across the contry picked this up then we could shut their revenues down. The employer cannot legally advise your or force you into filling out the form in a certain way.

    Heck, Rush and Glenn could get a few million participants in a matter of a day.

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/wp-content/themes/redstate4/css/img/button_post_comment.png

  • yoyo

    Federal Mandate that everyone MUST have Life Insurance – to say, 15 times your annual income?

    How about that every car owner MUST have periodic maintenance, per the Manufacturer’s Recommendations – only to have the Recommendations Federally Regulated.

    Welcome to 2081.
    http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/harrison.html

  • Menlo

    Come November or even in 2012, I don’t expect Republicans to see anywhere near the success they predict, let alone the 60 senate seats, house majority, and presidency you expect to see.

    Even in the impossible event they did, I don’t expect they would do a darned thing for conservatives.

  • ranthony

    led out of the White House in handcuffs. Just plain inexcusable.

  • rickindenver

    Do you really think that we could assemble a group of statesman that would in any way resemble the original founders of the constitution? No! You can not call a convention for only one issue such as health care. Everything would be on the table! It took eighty years for the statistists to get here. It may take that long or longer to change it back. If we are to change the constitution we must gain a large enough majority in congress to amend the constitution one step at a time.

  • ranthony

    I’m tempted to think He’s sitting this one out.

  • rickindenver

    Karl Denninger has put forth an easy to articulate replacement plan that will work. It handles the pre existing condition problem that is so vexing for Republican alternatives. I’m sure there is more but this is a good start!

    http://market-ticker.org/archives/1420-Health-Care-WAKE-UP-WASHINGTON!.html

  • davesinsanantonio

    But he still kept fighting till he wore the British out. That should be our example, and our goal.

  • realskinny

    Our country has just sustained a loss we fought nearly 50 years to prevent. The Democrats have dealt the American people a blow worse than the Soviet Union managed during the Cold War. But this is no time to lose heart.

    We are living the Chinese curse—We are living in interesting times. It’s time to man up. The Democrats have taken off the mask—-There ARE NO moderate Democrats—They are ALL anti-American radicals. They may be patriotic, but it’s not to the country I was born in. By declaring War on the American people, the Democrats have clarified the contest and outlined the target.

    Over the coming weeks the hundreds of outrageous items in this monstrous bill will become known. They must all be kept in front of the people in every way possible. An outrage of the day should be begun this Spring to run until the election. If we prepare a calendar, members of Redstate can notify local papers and TV stations of that day’s outrage. Most will ignore it at first, but they are always looking for material. Once one begins covering it the rest will follow. It would be a natural for one of the programs on Fox.

    There are many ways we can attack the enemy—and they are the enemy. There are at least 150 million of us. Civil disobedience is possible. Be of good cheer. Our ancestors left bloody footprints in the snow the winter of 1776. We aren’t even being asked to take off our shoes.

  • jetman

    Demagogue – Democrat – LIAR

    Prove me wrong if you can.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    We take what terribtory we can right now, which is considerable.

    And with the House (because now, not even even the Republican party can prevent the Republicans from taking the House), there is oh, so much that can be done. Plus, we’ll have anywhere from 48 to 52 in the Senate

    for starters, the rest of the Obama agenda is DOA. All legislative agenda is over, and a whole bunch of ‘govern-by-executive-order and govern-by-EPA-rulings can be thwarted and stopped. There are numerous investigations of corruption, vote buying, just flat out bribery, and quid-pro-quo that will result in numerous headlines, numerous indictments, and numerous administration officials suddenly acquiring a longing for the family life again.

    Meanwhile, Americans will be taxed up to their eyeballs and getting real tired of Obama blaming everybody but himself, long before 2013. And when we get the presidency and the Senate in 2013, repeal will be easy.

    But meanwhile, do what you can now. Take the House.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    We take what terribtory we can right now, which is considerable.

    And with the House (because now, not even even the Republican party can prevent the Republicans from taking the House), there is oh, so much that can be done. Plus, we’ll have anywhere from 48 to 52 in the Senate

    for starters, the rest of the Obama agenda is DOA. All legislative agenda is over, and a whole bunch of ‘govern-by-executive-order and govern-by-EPA-rulings can be thwarted and stopped. There are numerous investigations of corruption, vote buying, just flat out bribery, and quid-pro-quo that will result in numerous headlines, numerous indictments, and numerous administration officials suddenly acquiring a longing for the family life again.

    Meanwhile, Americans will be taxed up to their eyeballs and getting real tired of Obama blaming everybody but himself, long before 2013. And when we get the presidency and the Senate in 2013, repeal will be easy.

    But meanwhile, do what you can now. Take the House.

  • pilotguy40

    in the Civil War. At what point and how much do we resist enslavement. what do you consider it to be when a majority decides to not work for a living and live off you. If you could time travel would you consider it wrong to kill Hitler and save humanity from WWII. So far I have only advocated PRAYING. However I do not miss Murtha, or Kennedy, at all.

    This country is becoming one that I do not want to live in. If I am going to live in a third world country it might as well be one I chose to live in.

  • http://www.voteforteri2010.com teridavisnewman

    The voters in my district are enraged as Jerry Costello swore on his mother’s grave he wouldn’t vote for this pig of a health care bill and he lied to them and voted for it. They are going berserk and trying to volunteer for me and donate to me in numbers I can’t even begin to deal with. Bye-bye Jerry!

  • groveratt

    and is still trying to sell me on this. For some reason he is trying to throw the “Iran Contra Hearings” (I guess that is how spell it?) at me cuz I told him I don’t want all these bribes and back room deals that got Obamacare passed. Not sure what he is trying to get at with that “Iran thing and Reagan and Oliver North”??? I told him I do not have any information on that to debate him on it. I was a teenager running around with my friends at the time. All I know is what is going on now and I DO NOT LIKE IT ONE BIT!

  • irishgirl

    You must be confused. 64.5% were “angry” that the bill had passed. And from their comments, they seemed to understand pretty well. Get a clue.

  • JSobieski

    Dislike for HCR is organic, domestic, and filled with raw government arrogance—I don’t think this will expire unless we let it expire

  • groveratt

    but my emotions are running HIGH and I am just saying I am not going down without a fight. I am not really referring to blood shed or anything nutty. I am referring to supporting nothing but conservatives and trying my best to financially support their campaign to get them elected. I am really going to be checking this site more and more. I feel I can trust Erick’s suggestions as to who it is we need to get elected.

  • irishgirl

    and thank you for sharing.

  • proudgop

    That part has me so angry.

    If you are freshman in college today then I bet many do 5 year plan just to take advantage of plan

    many won’t even look for a job as hard anymore per se when graduation is approaching ( they can have health care of of their parents) and enjoy life for while ( I admit I traveled for 2 months after college and if this was enacted then I probably would of traveled longer)

    what a lazy get everything for free generation we are raising. yet, I will have to pay for them to not become self serving responsible adults?

  • sccrenny

    I just call him “Goober” (the dumber cousin of Gomer). I, too, am tired of trying to fathom how our state can have Jim DeMint and Goober Graham elected. As best I can fathom we are “divided” by the party into upstate and lowcountry. Goober is the lowcountry Senator.

    By the way, I can’t remember the Democrat’s name but I voted Democrat for the only time since Jimmy Carter (I was 23 and he was southern. I”M SORRY!)
    This was not a protest vote, the Dem was an ex-Republican who was more conservative than Goober.

  • hickorystick

    the States have proven they don’t have the cajones to stand up to the Unions. Most of the election funds come from the Unions, and the Unions are going to set their own rules. In my view, the ability to attend a school that is safe, and staffed with teachers who are capable and motivated to teach is a American Right. If any School or Classroom is not providing that anywhere in America it should be shut down, and brought up on civil rights charges. What President Bush did is provide a measure for the schools, and a remedy in case they were chronically coming up short. Most classrooms that are not successful, are that way because the kids are out of control, and the teachers aren’t getting support in discipline. The kids are out of control, because their parents never learned to control themselves; naturally Parents can’t teach to their kids what they never learned themselves. This is where I would enforce Hickorysticks executive order #1. If the kid isnt maintaing a C average, all tax breaks are removed, if they continue to fail, all tax credits are removed, and CPS is to monitor the family. If failure continues, the children are removed, and the Parents sent to a special Military School themselves for remedial training. I’m not a kinder gentler Conservative in that respect. A failed education results in a failed citizen. There is a direct correlation between low educated parents and felony kids, and failed marriages where the State has to come in and bail them out (State being us the taxpayers).
    As far as the Medicare Drug program, even people who work hard all their lives, sometimes never make it to financial independance. This happened in the 1900′s because of Bank failures, and it happens today because of industries that change suddenly. If someone has been paying in for at least 30 years, I don’t mind picking up the tab for drugs. There were some parts of Medicare D that were successful.
    The young and old often need help. I don’t mind being charitable, and I don’t mind government making sure that help is being distributed as neccesary. I do mind all the free-loaders in between, and I don’t want government acting on every problem they can find in the Country. 2 trill is way more than enough to fund a Federal Government. And I know, you know, 90% of school funding comes from State and Local Governments. 40% of the kids coming out of High School are ignorant, mentally unformed, and unskilled at learning. Prime candidates for seeking help at ACORN.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    I had to do some more searching once I got to the site above.

    It’s an excellent read, I’ve bookmarked it, and I highly recommend it, and for convenience, here’s a direct link to the article:

    http://market-ticker.org/index.php?serendipity%5Baction%5D=search&serendipity%5BsearchTerm%5D=pre-existing

  • 6eorge Jetson

    :)